Andy Ellis and the hosts use a crocodile metaphor to explore how security professionals dramatize risk to get attention. The joke: you'd need to actually release crocodiles in the boardroom to prove your point, because warnings alone don't land.
like check both ways for a crocodile.
Like you've heard of it, you believe that they exist, but you don't believe that they're a risk to you.
Well, I can tell you in Indiana, I, when I go outside, the least of my worries is a crocodile in my front yard. So I, right. I can, I can vouch for that.
That's appropriate. Yeah. Like if I came to you and said, I want you to burn brain power worrying about crocodiles, you're gonna say, I'm not gonna talk to Andy ever again.
Andy needs, needs to look at, needs to look for some help.
Or I would think that you were about to set a bunch of crocodiles loose.
That's true. That is, that is definitely the sort of thing I would do. And many security professionals, but let me prove that I am right by releasing crocodiles in the boardroom. Yeah. And right there, there's our quote for the, this type, this episode, releasing crocodiles in the boardroom.
Boom.
Oh my gosh. That's great.
That's great. Thank you, Bronwyn.
Oh no, it was a combined effort there, I think. Yeah. Yeah.