In this podcast excerpt, the speaker recounts a sales tactic taught by Adam Hernandez that converts prospects who initially refuse a primary offering into paying customers by giving them a free front‑end product and then upselling a higher‑margin item. The core story describes a gym that hands out a free USB with a home‑program and offers a complimentary nutrition orientation, during which supplements—high‑margin consumables—are sold. Those who declined the gym membership end up spending 50% more on supplements than regular members. The speaker generalizes the tactic, distinguishing two main models: a paired upsell (free item A is offered in exchange for buying item B) and an independent upsell (free item A is given, and item B is later suggested). Numerous industry examples illustrate the model—storage units with free months and lock sales, weight‑loss clinics with free 28‑day programs and supplement packages, physical therapists with free treatments and orthotics, software agencies offering free coaching tied to software usage, and real‑estate books with shipping, audio, and training upsells. The discussion delves into the financial mechanics: low incremental cost for the free item, high‑margin upsell, take‑rate expectations (often 80%+), and profit calculations per free unit. A multi‑step sales process is recommended, including securing a credit card on the free trial for cold traffic, ensuring frictionless upsell execution, and using the free offer to drive referrals and viral growth. Variations such as discount wrappers (e.g., $5/month service contingent on product purchases) are also covered. The speaker emphasizes two success factors: the prospect’s perception of the upsell as essential and the seamlessness of the upsell process. The overall message is that offering multiple ways to solve the same problem creates more at‑bats, turns every prospect into a sale, and can generate more cash than selling a moderate‑priced product outright.
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Upsell offer: free with alternative revenue stream. Lost chapter author note: I removed this upsell because I didn't think enough businesses would be able to use it. That being said, it does crush. 2019-ish. The following is a rough paraphrasing of a story Adam Hernandez told me, who taught me number 1, an excellent downsell upsell strategy, and number 2, a really nice way to graciously exit anyone from a sales conversation who doesn't want to buy your main product. When someone walks in towards the place and says no to joining, which used to kill me, I had this realization. Instead of awkwardly escorting them out of my gym, why not offer them something free instead? Instead, I say, "No worries," and hand them a USB drive. "Here's everything you need to do this program from home, absolutely free." You should see their faces. In this industry where everyone's trying to lock you into contracts, they think I'm some kind of saint. But here's the real move. After I give them the USB, I simply add, "To get you a head start, let's book you for a nutrition orientation so you can see the results you want." The orientation's on us. We just want to get this community healthy. And maybe when you can afford it, you'll think of us. Almost 100% of people who said no to my gym membership ended up in these nutrition orientations. And guess what? During these orientations, we sell them supplements instead of workout programs. Here's the crazy part. These people who initially rejected working out spend 50% more on supplements than my regular clients. I've basically created a no prospect left behind approach, and my sales team loves it because they help everyone who walks in. Everyone around here calls it the no sale sale. Perfect name, right? I'm selling to people who think they aren't buying anything. And once I started doing that, I thought to myself, why not offer this free USB as my front end and just get people in? Then I can upsell them an in-person version for money, or they can keep buying supplements from us every month and not use up gym space. Win-win. So that's what I did, and it worked. It goes to show that people want the same problem solved in different ways. Offering multiple ways to solve their problem gives you a few more at-bats. What's more, the strategy allowed him and the gyms who subsequently modeled it in our community a way to turn every single prospect into a sale. There are a few ways to use it, so let's dive in. As a downsell, like in the story, or as a primary offer, which he alludes to at the end. We'll dive into both. Description: This is an offer that depends strongly on the types of monetization/revenue streams available to a business. In the simplest terms, we're providing one type of service or product for free and upselling something else. You can upsell something as a one-time service or product to offset advertising costs, or you can make the upsell recurring, or you can plan your entire business around giving one thing away for free and monetizing with another. It works for one-time services or even recurring services, provided the alternative revenue stream has sufficiently high margins to afford both fulfillment types. But most variations chunk up to the two larger buckets: paired upsell, which is I give you thing A for free in exchange for buying thing B. Or independent upsell. I give you thing A for free and I will encourage you to buy thing B. Those are slightly nuanced ways of expressing the same concept or offer, but they will hopefully generate some different ideas for you on how to use this in your business or your client's business. Examples: storage offer. You get a free month of storage. Paired upsell. Do you want to buy a lock for your storage unit? The lock only fits our doors, are the only ones we sell and cannot be purchased anywhere else. By the way. Weight Loss Clinic. Offer: Free 28-day program. Independent upsell: At the nutrition orientation, kick off a program after first sign-up. You're going to want this $400 supplement package to get the best results for the free 28 days of service. Physical Therapist. 4 free treatments. Independent upsell: You're gonna need these orthotics, bands, braces, oils, and athletic tape to maximize the effectiveness of the 4 free treatments. Info: coaching, education, software. Offer: I will coach you free indefinitely on your agency as long as you use our software. Paired upsell: we monetize inherently on the software. Real examples: free book on real estate. Upsell 1: shipping cost. Upsell 2: audio version. Upsell 3: deal contract templates. Upsell 4: where to find deals training. Upsell 5: how to find financing if you have no money. Note, each of these things are necessary requisites for being successful using the strategy outlined in the book. The hardest sale is the first sale, the opportunity vehicle, the book. The rest of the upsells are things they will need along the journey. Free versus discount note. This works with a discount wrapper. You can get service from us for only $5 per month, normally $100 a month, as long as you continue to buy and use our products. An acquaintance of mine who owned a very successful chain of 200+ weight loss clinics grew it on this simple offer. They offered $5 per month of weight loss services for a year if and only if the client used their supplements, bars, shakes, and meal program. Their guarantee was contingent on this continued usage and purchasing. They were a successful business, employed doctors and nurses at the facilities, but despite this, gave their service away because they made so much on their consumable products. This gave me an interesting insight. People were more willing to pay for the products than they were for the service from white-coated medical professionals. People love tangible goods. Something I always try to incorporate with services if I can find a convenient way. Details. You'll want to use a multi-step sales process with this offer. If you're marketing thing A for free, then you must be able to give it away for free. So it is key that you give something that has low incremental costs, i.e., adding another unit doesn't cost much. If you're using it as a free front-end offer, you wanna make sure the next thing you're selling or upselling them is going to be the next natural thing the prospects would need. It is key to understand your prospect's problem and the solutions available better than they do. That is where good money model design becomes paramount. In the examples I gave, the money model does not end here. There are still more upsells that will occur in each of these scenarios. Storage would upsell boxes, larger storage units, and commitment. Weight loss clinic will upsell continuity of service, continuity of supplements, done-for-you meals, bars, home treatment, etc. They'll also likely close a card for continuity of service. So the free service is also a free trial plus penalty. This way you're capturing multiple streams of revenue. Physical therapists will probably upsell a long-term treatment program bundle, etc. The effectiveness of this play is based on two things. Number one, the prospect's perception of how essential/required the next thing is, like the lock in the storage unit scenario. Number two, how seamless the upsell process is for the prospect. If you make it frictionless, you can get 90%+ take rates on upsells for these offers. These should feel like it makes total sense to buy. The biggest benefit to using this offer as a free front end is being able to liquidate acquisition costs. If you make $0 on the free thing, naturally, but you know, 80% take a $300 upsell with 80% margins, then you know you are making $300 times 80% times 80% equals $192 per free thing given away. And that's just the first upsell. There will and should be many others, but since the take rate is so high and it is upfront, This is one of the easiest ways to generate cash upfront with little to no operational drag. Physical and digital products pair very well with services for this specific money model. We use this all the time for internal stuff. What I mean is using it to market to an existing audience. You can encourage them to bring friends for the free thing. They'll be excited to do that and participate, so it'll end up generating new customers and revenue with an easy offer. Basically, this combines a free trial with an upsell. Since most of your clients take the offer, in many cases you make more money going free plus the upsell than selling a moderately priced thing upfront. Consider meeting with 100 folks and selling 30 people at $99 a thing versus meeting with the same 100 folks and selling all 100 a free thing, then upselling 80 of them on the $300 products. You end up with more money and more customers, plus the referrals. You can obviously use this upfront. With cold traffic, you're gonna want to close a trial plus credit card on the first transaction, then upsell product on the second. Otherwise you'll get a lot of no-shows. Note: if someone does not buy the upsell, they are unlikely to stay. It's the greatest predictor of backend conversions. So although the sell may seem minor, it's the most important for the long-term value of the customer. You have to focus on it. It's not a nice-to-have, it's a must-have. Summary points: great internal play to your audience, generates lots of referrals, easy to sell. Pair it with a free trial for cold traffic so you can assume the backend continuity and far better backend conversion. Can generate more cash than selling something low-ish ticket. Almost always gets a lot of volume in the door.
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