No Dog Is a Lost Cause: Ryan Keys and 16 Dutch Shepherds

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And Max O'Neill, you would Not believe how many people I meet, and I go, "What made you want to get say an Aussie Shepherd?" They go, "I don't know." I go, "Had you met one before?" They go, "No." If you want to ask me how often I walk my own dog a week, it's only twice a week.

It's the Dog People Podcast, the podcast hopefully giving you a no-nonsense approach to dog training so you never have to shout. It's okay, he's friendly. My name is Jack Lawrence, Max O'Neill, Down Under Dog Trainer, and my lord Max, have you brought us a curveball today! I got a text from Max, actually, I think a voice note this morning just saying, oh yeah, we've got the bloke with 16 Dutch Shepherds. I'm like, sorry, what? He's like, yeah, there's a bloke who works like 15, 16 Dutch Shepherds and he's going to come in and have a chat with us. I'm like, okay. I was concerned there was going to be a guy coming through the gate wearing a straitjacket because—

All 16 dogs in tow.

Yeah. Max, explain our guest today.

This is my mate Ryan. Ryan works on a farm, which he's going to tell you all about. They've got a pretty unique dog situation there, whereas, as Jack said, there is 15 Dutch Shepherds patrolling the farm at all times and making sure things run smoothly. As you can probably guess, it's a pretty full-on job. So, Ryan's here to tell us all about this sort of situation, because I think when most people hear about anyone owning that many dogs, it catches their interest.

Well, not just any old dog. I mean, we're talking Dutch Shepherds here. So, Ryan, welcome to the podcast.

Thanks for having me, fellas.

So, what is your background? But obviously, so everyone understands where you've come from before, you know, obviously taking on this many, like 15 shepherds.

Yeah, I come from a very big bushy background. Mum comes from a horse training background, so she like drove horses and carriages and stuff, bred border collies. Dad's side was pretty involved in dogs and always grew up in the country and stuff too. So, I was always around high volumes of dogs. Yeah, as a kid, I was a pretty lonely kid, knew heaps about horses, and me and Mum always talked about it. And then it wasn't until my later 20s where I got my first working dog and yeah, started doing mantrailing and different stuff, met a few people along the way. I got a job in the kennels and a dog daycare and just saw how shit all of that was.

Yeah.

From there, I, through my mantrailing, ended up going with a pound across Southeast Queensland, ended up working between 5 of those pounds, was the supervisor of the North Brisbane pound. And yeah, from there, Like dealt with some pretty gnarly aggression cases, like the ones that are on hold and all of that for trial for attacking people and stuff. So, yeah. And the interesting thing about working there is you weren't allowed, like, you know, punishment's an open term and you definitely do punishment whether you know it or not. But there was like no correction policy. So, you really had to work your way around dogs without anything but a slip lead. And really teaches you to sort of be mates with them first and foremost. Like, if you're not going to really build that at the start and like show the dog that you're not just there to And boss it around.

Yeah.

I think it took the rush out of my training. I think when, even with Ned as a puppy, oh, I've got to hit these milestones, hit this, this dog's got to be here by this amount of time. And I don't really like that anymore. I think each, especially watching these dogs develop, you know, like some are months ahead of other ones and like, doesn't mean that they're better or worse. I think sometimes the late bloomers end up a little bit better and more stable as well. There's no rhyme or reason to it, but I think, yeah. From there, I, um, yeah, went out to a big dog training facility in Brisbane. They were just grabbing dogs by the faces and just a small room with like 60, 80 dogs in it, just yelling at everyone all the time. And these dogs are like just so overstimulated, drooling, just carrying on. And that was enough fuel for me at the time saying, if these people are charging, you know, like they had dogs that they're 3 or 4 years being trained and they didn't know anything. And you're like. I mean, if, if these people can do it, like, I was so like, oh, the quality of dog trainers around is like really high and I've got to learn from them all. And you kind of learn pretty quickly that there's a small handful of really good ones and there's a lot of people just stealing people's money.

I guess it's a shame of it being like the unregulated industry. I mean, it means some really good people like, say, Casey, who we both know, yeah, doesn't have a ticket to his name but he's a wizard with dogs.

Yeah.

Benefit is it allows people like that to do what they want, but The negative is, is, you know, there's nothing stopping Shirley from across the road from slapping a sticker on her van and starting to charge people extortionate prices for nothing.

Yeah, that's pretty much how I got started into training. And then from there, I pretty much spent the whole last year doing board and trains back to back. So going out on my own, I didn't really want to do any more than one at a time because I really wanted to prove that I was getting the results I wanted. Some of those dogs are doing incredibly well. Some of them Obviously didn't keep up the work as much and aren't doing so well. But all of those dogs improved after the board and train. And that was kind of like my metric of understanding not only how to fix a dog, but then communicate that to send it back home, which is the hardest thing to do.

Something you said earlier, I really, really liked. And I think it gets so overlooked now because, you know, we get technical, whether that's, you know, the professional dog trainers or even, you know, the owners now, like owners are so sophisticated. I'm always blown away by what people know when I go to their house and whatnot. Something you mentioned earlier was about just about becoming the dog's mate for a few days, like figuring each other out, you know, really knowing what each other's about. And it's such an overlooked step. I think people, like you said, rush straight into the technical stuff, you know, engagement and play and this and this and this marker and motivation. All this, you know, all that stuff is 100% important. It's a foundation. But I really think there's like, even before that as a foundation, just getting a dog to like you and trust you and having that rapport is so underestimated.

Yeah.

What you said about Dolph with the shepherds is really interesting, is, you know, without technically knowing what to do or being the best dog trainer, it's amazing what you can get away with just by being mates with the dog. Like, over the years, the people I've seen who nail this the best and, you know, don't have much technical knowledge, it's insane what they're able to teach their dog. I'm like, how did you teach your dog to get you a tissue when you sneeze? They go, I don't know, they don't even have a marker system. But just through having that language with the dog and just figuring each other out, it's, it's crazy what you can what you can do with them.

Hey.

It's the buy-in, man. And I think that the buy-in is something that's like, you see a lot of trainers sort of showing what the end goal is, but just having these dogs kind of come up, like the biggest win at the start was just having a whole pack of them just wagging their tails as I walk up the driveway without attacking me. It's like, you know, that's like, that was such a big achievement and it looked like nothing, you know? Like, it's like, oh, these dogs are my mates now. And like, they're like, look, seeking me out because I can give them value in their life. And from that, I can start adding authority going, hey man, like, Gotta do as I say if we're gonna go do some fun shit together.

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I got a call about six months ago, roughly, from a bloke named Dolph through a friend of a friend, and he basically said, "Hey, look, this guy has had multiple trainers out here. A bunch of people have been torn apart. I've also gotten." All my volunteers out here and they keep getting bitten daily. So can somebody come out and have a look? It's like, oh man, I'm pretty booked out at the moment. I can try and come out. And he's like, oh, okay, sweet. So is this weekend good?

Sweet.

All right, man. So poked out there and like pretty quickly it was definitely not what I was expecting. 120 acres of property and bushland and trails and stuff. And yeah, from there I basically tried to sort of get a gauge of what Like who the instigators were, how bad it was. And most of the volunteers had been in hospital. It was, yeah, pretty bad.

So, obviously dog bites and all that sort of stuff going on. Because let's set the scene. I mean, these aren't highly trained dogs that you were walking into. This was just crazy.

Yeah. So, he'd initially started with 3. 2 intact females and an intact male.

And they did what they do.

They did what they do twice in 2 separate litters. I believe the second litter, he took Trinity to the vet to get desexed and they found another litter in her. And terminations for puppies is really not ideal. So they kept that litter. He was going to raise them up to rehome them and kept putting them off and putting them off. And then by the end of it, basically told him he's keeping them. And then as they sort of developed, yeah, no individual training. These dogs were out all of the time, all together. Kind of just wild dogs.

Just left to do their own thing, really?

It was closer to a wild pack of dogs than anything else. Dolph was the only person that could really handle them at this point. And his handling of them was pretty incredible. Reared them since puppies, was able to pick them up, grab them, all that. Like, I was pretty impressed at that off the bat. But zero control, didn't really understand how to correct them, gave them sort of freedom. And he gets very distracted, old Dolphy. So, He'd be halfway through something, jump on AI, and then be in another room with all these dogs roaming. Someone would rock up and they'd just be like, jump. The staff policy when I got there was if you see dogs, find the highest thing and climb on it.

What made you want to? I know you said they called and said, you said you're pretty busy and stuff like that, but you went along with, you know, with all these reports of the dog bites and the chaos and all that sort of stuff. What made you go, yeah, I'll give it a go?

I like to sort of push the envelope a bit. I'm the type of person that gets pretty easily bored. So I think doing sort of your basic B-mod stuff. I wanted to push the envelope. I think most good trainers, like Max here and stuff, there's just a point where you start feeling the monotony of dog training.

Yeah.

You're working the same thing. You also want to test your own abilities. Like, a point of being a dog trainer is like, not only are you a professional, but you're always a student. And if you're going to sit there and be like, hey man, like, I'm happy to be a pet puppy dog trainer forever, then you're going to stay in that pocket. But like, Unless you're that type of person, you're going to get bored.

Well, yeah.

Well, you're certainly not going to get bored with 15 Dutch Shepherds, that's for sure. So, how do you even get started with a situation like that? Where do you start with these dogs?

I did a lot, like I do a lot of discovery questions. I think from my background at the pound, it made me sort of start questioning everything and the truths behind everything. So, with Dolph, you know, he's very, very open book about everything. I said, what does your day look like with him? He said, I get up at 5 in the morning and we go ride the quad bike for 3 hours. These dogs were running like 20 kilometers in the morning.

Oh my God, he's just breeding absolute machines.

Yeah. And not only that, but they could never be out. Like, you couldn't get one out. Like, you can never get just one dog out. Otherwise they would just start like chewing the roofs off their kennels and like foaming at the mouth. So all of them had to come out immediately. So I was like, whatever you do in those mornings, like, I'm coming to exist as you for a week.

Yeah, right.

So I got there at 5 in the morning, like I'd left Gold Coast, I think 3:30 because it's out near Uki. So I left at 3:30 in the morning, got there just before 5. I made sure that Dolph— Dolph and I had a chat in front of the kennels for a good 10 minutes. I really wanted them to settle down before they got out, and I really wanted them to see around their only person they trusted that like I wasn't a threat. Nothing quick, no like quick movements. Yeah, from there I think he within about 40 seconds, he'd let all of the dogs out of the kennel. One of them grabbed onto the back of my leg and like started pulling, but I knew it was going to happen. So it kind of was, yeah, 3 layers of pants with trackies over the top for my first day.

Walking in a full bite suit.

Yeah, pretty much. And like, I was kind of expecting I was going to need a little bit more of it. But I think just that, you know, this dog kind of bit me on the back of the leg and it just not doing anything. You just kind of had to change tactics pretty quickly and jumped on the quad with him. We rode around for about 4 hours on the quad. So I came back, you know, slowly started introducing, you know, I'd put the food in with them. It's like starting to add value of, hey man, I'm going to start doing this. And because they were attacking the volunteers so hard, it was mostly, um, during the day they would kind of, by like 8 or 9, they would be in the kennels all day until they like, and they weren't resting in the kennels. And then they'd get out for their quad bike ride at nighttime and do another 3 hours. And it's like, these dogs were like muscly as hell, but they're all limping. And like, he had no understanding of rest and like, you know, like off days, you know, I was like, just because these are high-powered dogs, like, doesn't mean that they should be doing that.

Yeah.

Everyone had limps and, you know, and I think now we're at a 6-month mark. We're looking at like every dog will know like very like technical obedience very soon. I've got another trainer, Jordy. I think you've met him.

Yeah, Jordy. Yeah, he's a legend.

Yeah. He messaged very early on in the piece. I think nearly 2 or 3 months in and was like, man, that looks sick, can I come out? All right, man. And yeah, he's been one of the only guys that sort of has been able to handle them, and he's just learned like a sponge. Like, he's a supernatural ability, has a lot to learn in terms of like the sciences and learning theory and stuff like that, but what he lacks in that, he just naturally knows anyway.

So that's just all the stuff anyone can, anyone can learn. Yeah, it's like, like you said, that deeper stuff, like, that's, that's a lot of that can't— you can't teach.

No, it's just such a natural thing. So like, I put a lot of And I think that's a credit to Jordy as well of being able to, like, right now he's looking after them while I'm not there. And yeah, kind of keeping like sort of a consistency because Dolph on the weekends seems to just break it all and you come back Monday and all the dogs are nose barging the doors and, you know, screaming and carrying on and you're like, I wonder what's happened since Friday, you know?

So yeah.

Obviously everyone, you know, they have, everyone always has this thing, the dream theory of having a big piece of land and tons of dogs and going, oh, it'll be, it'll be a dream. The reality I would expect is a lot different. I mean, we're hearing this story of Dolph and his dogs, you know, obviously 15 Dutch Shepherds is insane. But I would imagine 15 of any, you know, breed of dog is going to be a lot of hard work. I mean, we know from having one dog, it's not easy.

I mean, I used to live with 17 Whippets over in the UK, and even though those dogs are couch potatoes, even that was still carnage. I can't imagine 15 And for those of you listening, I just realized that some people might not know what a Dutch Shepherd is. Think of, think of like a brindly Mal. Yeah. Is what largely a lot of them look like.

Pretty close to Malinois. I think Trinity, the mum, is half Mal anyway. Came out brindle and it's the Dutch Shepherd or whatever. So, but yeah, I think what people sort of don't see behind the cameras is the amount of husbandry, cleaning shitty kennels.

Yeah.

You know, and it's like not, not to like, they get plenty of toilet breaks. Some of them just are so okay with like they're just dirty dogs kind of thing. Yeah.

They don't care.

One of them will like wait to get back into his kennel.

Just to sit in peace.

Named Skittles. He's a monster. And yeah, they're like the amount of dog shit you have to pick up. They're filling water bowls, food, you know, preparation for food for the next coming days, weights, all of this stuff that goes on behind the scenes that just eats up your time when you've got that many dogs. And, you know, then you've also trying to squeeze in sessions wherever you can. You're trying to make sure everyone has what they need. It's like if you were to do like the standard thing, you know, I could easily spend a whole 12 hours working one dog, you know, like over the day. And like, that's how my board and trains used to roll, is like they just become a little buddy and come with me everywhere. And then you're trying to split your time between so many dogs and then just making sure that they have like out-of-kennel time, you know. So like you get 6 down the bottom at their out-of-kennel time and everything just works like clockwork.

And the moment someone falls out, they're like, they all So what's the end goal with this situation that you've got yourself into now with the dogs? Like, because I mean, obviously it's a full-time job. I mean, it's, it's, it's chaos. I mean, what, but what's the end goal for, for this?

Uh, to not only show like that you can bring nearly any unsocialized dog back from the brink if you put enough work into it. Um, like it's not to say that every dog's suitable for society, especially ones that don't have committed owners, but I think that 99% of dogs can be brought back if you put in the work. And not only that, but if you have a high enough drive, you can make these dogs excel. So the goal with all of this now is how far can we push it? We've got dogs that are like now hitting senior level on dock diving. We've got dogs doing, you know, mad bites because they're just natural at biting. You know, all of these dogs are now playing that never played before. And like, I'm going to start working scent detection. I think Scotty from Primal Drive will be coming out soon to do some decoy work.

Yeah.

with some of them, build them up a bit. I think it's just turning a big negative into a positive, you know, like not everything needs to be a sad story. It doesn't need to have any hate on it. You know, it's a guy that was in a really bad situation. He was genuinely looking for help. Went to a few sort of trainers around here. One of them put a halti on him and was trying to walk him through, like one of them through doorways. And I was like, mate, this dog lives on 120 acres and is never on a lead. Why are we worried about doorways?

Yeah.

Yeah. Threshold training is not applicable to this dog. Just ask some questions because this dog lives on 120 acres. Like, we may be looking at different training.

I think that's what's made you really successful with that. Hey, it's like not going in there with this cookie cutter. This is my system. Like you said, just, just listening and seeing what do these dogs need? What does this client actually need?

Like, yeah. And I think we both met at Michael Ellis, but I love the whole Michael Ellis philosophy of no systems. You know what I mean? Like, we're just going to walk. Like, there's always things you're going to fall back on or draw on experience. But like, I've made heaps of mistakes with these dogs and had I kept jamming those mistakes further, I would be in a deep mess.

Yeah.

But you've really, you know, there's one dog, Silver, that like would come out of the kennel and we'll kind of like give it, feeding him the toy while he was a puppy because, you know, like just put something in his mouth so he doesn't bite ya. And then I waited another 3 months of that. Now he's like in that Pavlovian state. He comes out of his kennel and he's like, I'll grab your shirt or grab this. You know, like if you looked at it and you didn't know this dog, you'd be like, oh, he's a monster who's trying to kill you. And it's just like, no, we caused this problem.

And that's the thing, isn't it? So that is the thing is it's the owners, it's the people that cause these issues. It's like my frustration with mine at the moment has been delivery of retrieval. She spits out and throws it at me and I'm getting frustrated. I'm like, the only person to be frustrated at is you, mate, because you caused this shit because of what we did down the track. Now you've got to fix it and turn it around. But it is amazing how quickly they pick up.

Exactly.

That sort of Pavlovian repetition sort of situation.

You can see, you know, the George chattering at the door and things like that. And we can get him out with obedience and you can feed him a toy. But I think overall it had to come to a point of punishment that like I potentially caused a little bit of that punishment as well. Like it could have been avoidable, but I had to do it at a certain point or this dog's going to be super dangerous. So I think it is hard, you know.

But it's a learning curve for everyone as well, this stuff, isn't it? I mean, we're not always going to do shit right. And that's the whole point of this podcast. Like, I mean, nothing we ever do is perfect. do is to put people down and say you're terrible. It's like, we've all made mistakes.

My biggest philosophy is that like, I think if more people just had a go, you know what I mean? Like, we're like, everyone likes to like see these Instagram trainers and like, oh wow, it's a focused heel in 3 steps. And it's like, man, like I know that everyone's had that messy thing and now we're just putting all this pressure on dogs because we expect them to just be these perfect things really quickly. Some dogs just don't have it. We're pushing for things that we shouldn't do. Yeah, and yeah, I think for me it's just having a crack at it. Like, at my point when I walked in there, it was like, I'm the only trainer willing to do this. There would be absolutely better trainers than me that could do it, but none of them wanted to.

Yeah.

So I was like, man, I'll have a crack, man. Like, I'm gonna make mistakes, I'll probably get eaten, I'll probably end up in hospital, which I thankfully didn't. But, you know, going in with that attitude, I've now just kind of learned this invaluable like, skill that I now have of understanding like a whole pack and how to sort of navigate on a larger scale. Um, but that being said, you know, like each week's a new setback. We've had dogs with stitches, all sorts of things from, you know, just Dutchies playing together. They want— like, they grab each other so hard and just that little rip, just straight up puncture wound without them even having any malice or anything like that. So So managing all of like these different things.

So could people follow your journey, for want of a better term?

Yeah, absolutely. I'm Brian Keys Dog Training on Instagram. You can search for 16 Dutch Shepherds. We have a YouTube channel, Instagram. So we've got a heap of videos up there.

We'll put all the links in the show notes of the episode so people can click along.

Yeah, sick, man.

It sounds incredible. Good on you for taking it on, man, because it sounds like if you hadn't come along, then God knows where this would have ended Yeah, I think like that's my advice to anyone is like try your absolute best.

Like, don't be an idiot. Like, I, like, I'm kind of a little bit foolish of like jumping in a bit too deep, but there's no harm in giving it a go, especially with like these last chance situations. So if any dog trainer out there that might be listening or somebody who's trying to rehabilitate dogs, just be patient and keep going. Ask questions, but yeah, don't give up on it.

No, that's it. Consistency beats perfection. Hey, last thing I wanted to finish, finish with as we thank you for coming on is you mentioned earlier that, you know, there's a lot of other people that could have done it but no one would. I, I actually, I actually disagree with that. I reckon what you've got is a pretty unique skill set, and you obviously came into it with a bit of prior knowledge from how you grew up but also developed it along the way. But I reckon that there'd be not many people that could do that, mate. I actually think you should give yourself more credit.

Oh, thanks, man.

That's pretty incredible.

And thank Jordy too. But yeah, man, thanks heaps. So it's a Yeah, absolutely. Like, I, I think all of us dog trainers will be humble when we get to a certain point of realizing that, like, you can only have so much effect. But yeah, I like to think of it as just, you know, I just like to push the envelope and I don't give up. Too stubborn. That's mad good.

That's unreal, mate.

Thanks for coming in, legend. Really appreciate it. It's fascinating.

Cheers, fellas. And yeah, see you on the next one.

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