8 Tons Of COCAINE Seized! | UnitedHealthcare CEO Killed! | Biz To Biz Podcast
6 Dec 2024 · 29 min
In this informal Biz to Biz podcast episode, co‑hosts Justin and an unnamed guest (Speaker B) riff on a wide range of current‑events topics while interspersing personal anecdotes and humor. They start with light sports banter before moving to a series of news items: a multi‑million‑dollar cocaine seizure in Fort Lauderdale, a massive meth bust allegedly linked to Starlink navigation, and the reported killing of the UnitedHealthcare CEO. The conversation then drifts into concerns about facial‑recognition surveillance, autonomous weaponized drones, and the U.S. criminal‑justice system’s handling of violent versus non‑violent offenders. The hosts shift to cryptocurrency, noting Bitcoin’s recent $100 K peak, personal missed opportunities, and the tax complexities of crypto transactions, while also mentioning Dogecoin, Shiba Inu, XRP and market speculation. They discuss a cascade of food safety recalls (broccoli, carrots, cucumbers, eggs, butter) and Meta’s new ad‑selection tool “Andromeda,” debating its impact on ad spend. Advertising strategy advice (niche targeting vs. broad) is exchanged, followed by a critique of offshore hiring and freelance platforms, with concerns about price‑cutting, quality, and the broader economic climate (credit‑card debt, job market frustrations). The episode ends with a call for listeners to subscribe.
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You are now watching the Biz to Biz podcast with Allen and Justin. Yo, what's up everybody? It's Justin live from B2B Vault, the Biz to Biz podcast sponsored by Nationwide Payment Systems, hosted by this guy, the Christian Latiner of payment processing himself, Allen Kopelman. What's up, Brody?
It would be good if I was a little taller.
I wish I was taller. I wish I was a baller. I wish I had a girl.
Yeah, Christian Laettner. He had— he was a great college basketball player, Duke. He played on the Dream Team.
Yes, he might have got like a minute.
Yeah, a minute, a minute here and there, maybe after they were up, you know, 50 points on Angola or something like that.
Probably something like that.
And they put him in the game. He was the only college player to play on the Olympic— they don't put any college players there.
He was going into the league, right?
But I'm just saying, in general, they haven't been doing that.
Now they do.
They do. They put Team Solid. I don't know. I don't think they had any college guys on there last time. I mean, they didn't even play Jason Tatum, which was weird.
There was something else going on.
Well, obviously, but he didn't get—
yeah, I think that was his choice.
Oh, thanks. Oh, maybe it was.
I think his words. I mean, don't quote me. I don't know exactly what happened, but from what I remember, there was a problem with the coach. What's the coach? Who's the coach of the— was it not John Stockton? Steve Kerr.
Oh, Steve Kerr. Oh, maybe.
Him and him got into a— I just—
I've not heard.
I remember reading and all like they got into a verbal altercation.
Okay.
And yeah. Jason was like, I don't, I don't want to play for that guy. Okay, from what I remember. But yeah, uh, basketball, Bucks have been killing, man. Dame and, uh, Giannis finally, uh, kind of figured out their roles with each other, I guess. So it's been pretty cool to watch. Last 8 games, that's cool, smoking. So yeah, go Bucks. And the Packers play the Lions tonight, man. That's a big game.
That's definitely a big game. The Lions have been on fire. Yeah.
It's a big rivalry back home. Yes, of course. Green Bay versus Detroit, dude. My sensei, Allen Fuelling. What's up, brother? He's from Lansing. Well, close to Detroit. Um, and, uh, so he's a huge Detroit Lions fan, Packer fan, blah, blah. I mean, uh, Tigers fan, all the, all the sports, right? So the last time I remember watching a game with him, right, the Pack, that's when Aaron Rodgers threw that Hail Mary into the end zone and won the game.
Oh wow.
That shit was hilarious. He was not happy. They were not happy about that. But, uh, Yeah, good luck tonight. I don't know. I don't know if we're good enough to beat the Lions.
We'll see.
We got a good D, but we'll see.
So you ready for some crazy news?
Sure.
Okay. I've been deciding. So here, like, well, yesterday I had this story. They seized like $10 or $15 million worth of cocaine at the Fort Lauderdale port the other day. The Coast Guard was watching somebody. They got them.
So if they got them, the other 100,000 keys got in the other way.
And then they just caught some other guy trying to bring in $4.25 billion worth of meth, and it was seized because they were using Starlink for navigation. And they caught him. They must have been watching him, but something—
where the hell he was trying to bring this meth from?
I don't know, from Mexico maybe.
Oh, okay.
And they were using Starlink or something and they got busted. And then here's like—
but how does that have to do with them getting busted?
I don't know.
There's a navigation system that doesn't have anything to do with that. I guess somebody dropped dime on their ass.
Exactly.
The feds been wherever, the DEA or whatever, they've been watching.
Maybe they got access to Starlink and they saw some activity that—
well, I mean, I'm sure they do have access to Starlink now. I mean, Elon's what, the DOJ guy? The Department of Government Efficiency. We shall see, sir. We shall see. Okay, we shall see. A bunch of winners.
Okay, so here's the— this story was really disturbing, especially after yesterday when that guy— the—
I didn't believe you for this shit. I— because I didn't read that this morning, so that just came out after— must have came to work when we got to work. I called Allen on his bullshit on this, but he's correct. They did— the, the D— the, the detective from New York did say this. I don't believe it.
Well, I don't know. Who knows?
I just don't.
I mean, we know— we talk about this all the time, like, is it, is it real or Is it all fabricated, what we read online newswise?
Sounds like a good story. Sounds like, uh, something I just watched on TV.
And everybody's questioning why the guy didn't have security. So then another story breaks this morning about Blue Cross Blue Shield says that they're, they're not going to cover anesthesia for the full length of surgeries if it exceeds the time limit that they put on the surgery. And people are flipping out over this.
That's messed up. But what Allen was talking about is like the guy who got— the CEO from UnitedHealthcare got whacked yesterday. Thoughts and prayers to your family, sir.
Definitely.
Uh, allegedly there were words inscribed on the shell casings. That shit sounds something like straight out of a movie.
Yeah, but they do that like on bombs. People write a message before they drop a bomb.
And shame on them.
Okay.
And they're going to go to hell too.
I don't agree with that. I'm just saying, you see that in movies.
No, I do. You see it in movies, bro.
Right. Well, we don't know that.
Real life. I mean, then they're showing the— did you see the pictures of the guy?
Yeah. Now they got a good picture of the guy's face.
I just ain't buying it. I'm not buying it. This shit looks like— you ever seen the movie Eagle Eye?
Yes. Oh yeah, exactly.
I mean, exactly what it looks like. It's too much for me, bro.
Oh, there's a company now being— okay, speaking about the Eagle Eye, you know, I get all these things from the FTC, Federal Trade Commission, every day. So there's some company that has like camera system that supposedly they can identify like everybody on, right? And, um, and, and now, like, apparently, like, they lied to everyone that they sold it to because it can't— yeah, I can't identify specific people. It can't— well, whatever. They said that they had access to this.
Like, if it has a hat on, you're shit out of luck.
Not really. They've caught some people, like, with those photos.
No, I'm sure that the CIA or the FBI or the Homeland Security or the whatever.
Yeah, ABC.
Yeah, 3-letter ABC, BBD, the East Coast Family. No, anyway, uh, yeah, so all those guys, I'm sure they have— oh yeah, the NSA has definitely got some shit to blow our asses up from where they say they don't send a drone over the podcast. Speaking of drones, yeah, the guy who created the Oculus Right. You know who that— the what's-his-name? I wrote it down. Uh, Palmero Luque.
Okay.
The guy created Oculus, right? He said, eh, I'm not gonna deal with this type of technology. I'm going straight to weapons.
Wow.
This guy just released introduced Bolt, a man-packable autonomous air vehicle. I shared it to everyone. Okay, that shit, literally, it's a drone. It explodes however high or on impact to what it wants. And if it shoots from up here, it's projectiles like hundreds of bullets, right, on its target.
That's crazy.
And then it explodes.
One-time use, I guess, for that one.
Yeah, but he's got a whole bunch of them. So the other one is just like a drone that any idiot can fly. That's literally how it is. I forget the terminology that they said, but literally that's what they said. Wait, low cognitive flying, which meaning a 2-year-old could fly the shit.
Okay, anyone who could figure out a video game could probably fly.
Yeah, not even It's not even that complicated. If you can use your two thumbs, like, in your—
boom! That's crazy.
And when this thing comes back to you, you fly like a remote control airplane.
That's nuts.
So the guy, Luke, is, uh, that's the shit that I talk about, like, I don't want to get droned.
Exactly.
So I guess everyone just has to walk around with like anti-aircraft weaponry. So in case we see a drone flying towards us, we have at least an opportunity to shoot it down.
Like a baseball hat with like guns on the top.
That's what I'm saying. Like, we need anti-air.
Like, we should have had that. Yeah, or we need one of those guys, you know.
I've seen some videos from the guys out in Australia or some shit. They got miniguns inside of their cars that literally pop out.
Right. That work. That's crazy.
Like the James Bond. That one?
Like James Bond.
No, like the Predator. Oh, remember the guy Jesse the Body Ventura in the Predator when he had the— yeah, they got two of those in both of their cars.
That's crazy.
It's pretty cool though.
I would definitely— what, who's they waiting? Someone's going to attack them? Who's going to attack Australia?
Maybe power to the people. People are fed up, bro.
They don't— I don't know, man.
I was talking to my wife about this shit last night. She was like, why is there so much violence? And there's all these ambulances and police cars every day, nonstop, all over the place. And I looked at her and I said, because the world is messed up.
Well, listen, they have these laws where they don't hold people in jail anymore. Person's got to commit 7, 8, 9, 10 crimes before they do any jail.
Ain't the answer. I know that's not the answer, but I mean, so like serial killers, rapists, child molesters, that type of shit, yeah, they need to be tossed under the jail, right? But like the majority of the people that are in prison, they need help, like mental help, drug help, you know, trauma therapy and shit. Like For the nonviolent criminals that are in prison just sitting there waiting to get out, I guarantee you the majority of them are not rehabilitated people. And when they get back into the society, they're not functioning at their capability at all, you know what I'm saying? So it's sad, especially being a part of it and shit. So it's definitely— keep your head up out there, man. Benny Blanco, my homie Benny, he's coming home next summer. Round of applause for you. It's going to hit the streets. He's going to look like a bodybuilder, bro. That guy, he's super talented at art. Like, he could make this. So hopefully he sticks to his creativity this time and doesn't put himself back in there.
All right. Well, Bitcoin did it.
100K, man.
Went over 100K, went to like 103. Now it's down to like 101.
I was—
but it definitely—
every time I see that, it kind of makes my stomach hurt because, like, I've told the story in the past, back in 2010, I was sitting at a tech incubator, right, technology incubator for different startups and stuff like that. And this guy walked in there giving us the rundown on crypto, etc., etc. But then he was like, he was introducing us to Bitcoin, right? We had an opportunity. I want to say it was $10 to— but you had to buy like $1,000 worth or something like that, right? But still, like, it was like $10 of Bitcoin, and we all had the money at that time, right? Right. We were all just looking at each other like Mm, no, no, none of us did it.
I mean, I was talking to somebody about this the other day. I go, that's all great. Like someone told me, they said, oh, I bought this stuff, now it's worth like $100 grand, right? So they made like $80 grand profit. Yeah, right. So I'm like, yeah, but it's not real until you take it off the platform and put it in your bank account.
Well, yeah. What are the taxes on, on that?
What, cashing it in? Yeah. Well, you pay capital gains tax.
I know. But so what's $100K after $100K?
Probably 70. So maybe, maybe more.
So you made a lot of money, right? It's a great investment, bro.
No, no, I'm just saying, like, I would not let it all ride because I would take it back to whatever I invested in right now.
Yeah, I'd half it at least, or something like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, I'd half it, but you know, Dogecoin, Dogecoin is going crazy. It's up to— it's up 8%. To $0.44. It was as high as— it was as high as $0.47. I got in on it at like less, around $0.12 to $0.15, and I bought some. I have a couple thousand. And then Shibubu is actually making a huge comeback the last 2 days, and it's up, uh, about 6%.
Nice. So what's it at? Is it almost a penny?
No, if it hit a penny, I would be loaded because I have like 18 million of those things.
Me too.
So yeah, let's go Shibu. Shibu Unu, let's go. Anyway, and you know, Ethereum is moving, Litecoin.
Crypto, I mean, because the guy that, uh, your boy elected to run the SEC is all for crypto. And, uh, and, uh, yeah, so the guy, whatever his name is, and the XRP, that's going crazy.
It was down to 38 cents.
What's the guy that he made for the SEC, man?
I don't know. I don't remember.
You're not following this?
I don't follow it all because they're just— they name people and then people pull out. There's a lot of time left on the clock, and now it's up to $2.90.
40.
Oh, $2.41. It was as high as $2.90.
That's cool, man. Shout out to crypto.
I mean, they're saying it could go— they're saying it could go to $100, XRP. I, I don't know.
I don't know what, you know, I was—
yeah, I don't know what the pot—
you know, that shit's crazy.
It's, it's essentially like These are the rules with crypto, right? So everybody understands if you sell it, you have to pay tax if you use it in a transaction. So I say to Justin, hey, Justin, here's, you know, 1 Bitcoin because you're going to build me some website, right? Or half of whatever. You're going to work for me. I'm going to pay your salary in Bitcoin. Here's 1 Bitcoin, right? Well, I got to pay tax on that. Now, Justin received the Bitcoin. And then if he cashes it out, he's got to pay tax on it. So there's a lot of tax associated with using it in a transactional manner.
Yeah, the transaction side of it is messed up, right?
That's got to get fixed.
Absolutely.
So because you can't—
I mean, that's because they've been trying to offshore the shit for since forever.
It's offshore, but it's all reported.
And no, I'm saying like, as far as like it's taxed so heavily already, you know what I mean?
Yeah, but only in the US. It's not taxed like that.
That's what I'm saying. This— that's why all these companies left, right?
They all left.
And now we're getting taxed on so many different— you know, it's really—
there's a lot of double taxation going on. So that's kind of a big problem.
Unrealized gains bullshit. That's—
well, that's not going to go through now, hopefully. But this thing where you do transactions on the crypto You know, hopefully they undo that.
Yeah, because you got to be able to— people got to be able to go to the store and use it.
Right.
And them getting taxed to use that shit, that if they're getting taxed for whatever they're purchasing or the service or whatever already, there's no reason for them to get taxed.
And you already paid tax on the money because this is an investment, which is even more like that gets even more technical.
Like it's— there's just— they're making so much money off of this shit.
Too much taxes on the crypto. They got to fix that. That's what's got to happen as far as— and then, you know, another food recall happened today with some broccoli. From where? Some broccoli from— I got to pull the story back up. I moved the phone, man. And I was like, how can this— how— what is going on with all this food? Like, Honda is recalling over 200,000 SUVs.
That has nothing to do with broccoli.
No, I'm fine. The broccoli.
The hell? The Rundown with Allen Kopelman.
No, the broccoli.
Well, he looks for that shit. I was reading Meta released an update. It's called Andromeda, which means beautiful goddess. And it is tasked with selecting ads from tens, from, from ad candidates and turning them into a— it really, I don't understand it, man. Selecting ads from tens of thousands of candidates and turning them into relevant ads.
I don't know.
Yeah, I don't know exactly what it's doing, but it claims that it's working and that the business has seen a 22% in return on ad spend.
So, so there's some farm, Four Earth Farms, has a voluntary— yeah, recall of carrots. Then Sprouts Farmers Market, Walmart, Albert's Organics, and other grocery stores who bought Four Earths also has recall on broccoli now. And they don't think this stuff is around anymore, but They don't think it's around. Then there's a problem with cucumbers. There's a problem— the FDA released something with cucumbers, something with dog food the other day. I was like, I don't understand how that food— the safety in these factories where all this stuff is made, how it can be so messed up, you know, that, that all this— that there's all this stuff going on. Then you had that Costco, you had something wrong with their eggs, salmonella for the eggs, and then their butter got recalled because there wasn't the word dairy on it. Just a lot of things with food going on.
I'm trying to figure out what exactly this Andromeda does.
And then this other article, which is pretty crazy, is so like I noticed that Target, when you go to the self-checkout, I think they have it in Walmart now too. They have cameras now when you're at that checkout counter.
Okay, so this— okay, yeah.
And, uh, and people are getting upset because the cameras are snitching on them.
So apparently this new, uh, tool from Meta will— it's going to select— it's going to be able to show the ads to who it's supposed to better. It's supposed to target the ads better.
Okay.
So you're not wasting your ad money.
Well, that would be great for us, hopefully.
Yeah, I was, you know, I was just talking to a person that works for Facebook.
Yeah.
Um, about ads and ad spend and, you know, small businesses and It's really a shitty climate.
Yeah.
Um, his suggestion for us was to really go niche, but I know you don't want to do that.
We could go niche.
But that's— he— that, that was his direct suggestion to go niche. That's way off the project— podcast, different marketing conversation here. But, uh, yeah, it's the same thing, goes for any kind of business.
If you sold women's clothes Is it— do you need to just go for like, oh, well, I'm just going to talk about— make the ad for blouses versus just women's clothing?
Yeah, that's kind of where you led to, you know, you're going to obviously, you know, we lead with value solutions and then what separates us from other—
our competition.
Right. But yeah, niching it up is what his suggestion was, as I suggest. But you can't. Always just put your ducks in one row.
Just go one niche at a time for a couple weeks.
You put your duck, you line your ducks up in a row to kill them all. And then you can't put all your eggs in one basket.
Okay.
That's the word. That's the, that's the, that's what I was thinking.
All your eggs in one basket.
Don't put your eggs, all your eggs in one basket.
But listen, you gotta try different things when it comes to advertising, social media. Whatever it is that you're doing, you can't repeat, do the same thing over and over and over.
Did you Black Friday shop?
No, I don't. I don't go out on that.
No, I mean Cyber Shop.
A few things.
I didn't.
Only stuff like I went on my Amazon and there was like stuff, oh, 50% off things that I usually buy. Yeah. So I was like, okay, well I'm going to buy these dog treats anyway.
I don't, I don't know, bro. It's just really wild to me. Like, Adobe predicted that they spent $240 billion from November 1st to just to up to now.
Okay, on advertising?
No, people shopping.
Oh yeah, I believe it.
For Christmas, for the holiday season, my son already spent $240 point $8 billion.
Well, at Jacob's store, I don't know what the projection was, but they did over, they did like more than $100 grand. At Paxson? Yeah, at Paxson, at his store at Sawgrass. And that was, they blew the record right out of the cannon.
It's wild to me, 'cause I was reading this, you know, I don't, you know, it is what it is. Like, it's just, 'cause we're, You read about the economy and it makes it seem like, oh, the economy is doing so well and everyone's doing so great. But then I don't see it, right? It's like, what am I doing wrong? Or because—
Yeah, but they're like, there was a hearing for Visa and MasterCard, right? And the senators are going, well, what do you have to say, Visa and MasterCard? Credit card debt is the highest it's ever been. It's like crossed a trillion.
That's what I'm saying. So like, are they saying that, oh, the economy's doing great because everybody is putting everything on a credit card?
Pretty much.
Or are they saying that the economy is— because they're not— they're full of shit about this job market. Like, I know a lot of people that are looking for jobs, right, that get calls, they go to the interview and never hear about Anything. They don't even say why they didn't get a callback. My wife had multiple interviews recently, right? And that's happened to her on every one of them. Like, just, we'll get back to you. You had a great interview, blah, blah, blah. Get that email, you know what I'm saying? We'll be in touch.
Nothing. That's crazy. The job market is really weird. I mean, I hate to say it, but I mean, I get in my inbox on on LinkedIn every day, hire offshore workers, you can spend less money, get offshore workers. And let me tell you, I talked to business owners and they asked me, you know, where I was in a roundtable, um, I think like a week ago, and that's what they were talking about on the roundtable. And the 10 business owners, they're talking about, and I said, I absolutely won't do it.
You know what's funny is because I, I just got a for a website. Yeah, somebody, a friend of mine anyway, you know what I mean? He's, yo, I need— want to talk to you. Some guy, he owns campground. Does he— they do great during the summertime, you know what I'm saying? But, uh, they were thinking about hiring someone from the Philippines.
It's crazy.
And he's like, you know, I don't want him in my proposal was only $200 more than theirs. And I thought to myself, like, damn. And I tried— and I didn't price this cheaply, right?
Right.
So I'm thinking to myself, how much money are y'all really saving? Because they're, you know, I feel like businesses are just— we're not even gonna interview these people or talk to other of these freelancers and they're going straight to the internet.
Oh yeah.
And I guarantee you, you guys are getting robbed. I guarantee you.
Because the—
for what I charge, I charge a little bit more actually, right? Just because there's a little bit of a rush to it, you know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
So I was thinking to myself like, damn, if I'm only $200 more, then how much are they really saving? How much are these businesses really saving by offshoring all the work?
Yeah, but they know, when you can't contact like all these people through Fiverr.
Yeah.
All this, you don't know whether you're contacting an individual or you're contacting like an agency, right? A lot of times you're contacting an agency, so they're upcharging.
Fiverr? Yeah. I, I would never talk to any— no, you don't talk to agencies on Fiverr. They're individual people.
They make it look like they're individual people and then they have a team behind.
Oh, for sure. That way, right? That's somebody, man. Yeah, I mean, the guy can't do 300 animated videos in 24 hours.
Exactly.
So I mean, at some point they're going to have to outsource the work.
Yeah, so if you're going that route, you're not— and a lot of times they're charging, you know, they're trying to charge a little less than you would get it from here, right? Not that much less. Not much less.
Not much less at all.
No, I think they've gotten a little smarter.
Yeah, I've seen it. I've seen this one guy, there was a real quick, there were a bunch of people there from Africa that they were doing like tech work for. And I think it was on 60 Minutes actually. And they was just saying how, yo, they're calling us and they're trying to have us do this work for really, really low amounts of money. But our economy is like the same, right? You know what I mean? Like the price of stuff, right? But anyway, uh, that's the pod. Subscribe to the channel for us for the one time, man, please.
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