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20 Nov 2024 · 29 min
In this episode of the Biz to Biz Podcast, hosts Allen Kopelman and Justin engage in a free‑form, banter‑filled conversation that jumps across a wide range of current topics. They start with sports nostalgia, noting the Miami Dolphins’ historic 1972 unbeaten season, before diving into the high‑profile Mike Tyson vs. Jake Paul exhibition fight, discussing contract stipulations, fan polls, and perceptions of the bout’s authenticity. The hosts then shift to Netflix’s massive 65 million‑viewer boxing event, speculating on platform challenges and future sports streaming. A quirky news story about a million‑dollar tequila shipment belonging to Guy Fieri and Sammy Hagar being hijacked is recounted. They debate the upcoming James Bond casting, weighing Jason Statham against classic actors. The conversation moves to Google’s antitrust woes, the potential forced sale of Chrome, and the broader impact on digital advertising, especially for small businesses, prompting suggestions for tiered local ad options on Google, YouTube, and Facebook. They touch on the FTC’s crackdown on fake reviews, the difficulty small firms face in competing for ad space, and the broader theme of pay‑to‑play online ecosystems. Airline industry news follows, covering Spirit’s bankruptcy, the blocked JetBlue‑Spirit merger, and the competitive dynamics of low‑cost carriers. Finally, they discuss a recent NVIDIA‑sponsored survey showing 91 % of financial institutions adopting AI, primarily for customer service, and stress the need for businesses to learn AI tools. Throughout, the hosts blend personal anecdotes, pop‑culture references, and opinionated commentary, ending with a sign‑off encouraging listeners to follow and share.
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Yo, what's up everybody? It's Justin live from B2B Vault, the Biz to Biz Podcast sponsored by Nationwide Payment Systems, hosted by this guy, the Larry Zonka of payment processing himself, Allen Kopelman. What's up, bucko?
Miami Dolphins undefeated season reigns on for 52 years. Thank you to the Kansas City Chiefs. No, no, for losing to the Buffalo Bills.
I'm sure you guys won— only won 2 games in a row, man. You feeling really brolic about—
well, no, I'm just saying the undefeated season from 1972 still intact, still intact. Larry Zonka and all the rest of them that are—
I don't know, I'm from Wisconsin where Green Bay has the most Super Bowl championships.
Okay, team in the NFL, that's the only thing we have for the Miami Dolphins. Besides that and the Dan Marino years, we stunk. We stink it up. The Dolphins.
Ricky Williams was great, right?
But I'm saying we haven't had like a—
they should have just let Ricky smoke weed and he would—
I think now the NFL lets them smoke.
They do.
So NBA too. Everybody's smoking weed.
I don't think the MLB is messing around.
MLB? I don't know.
I could be wrong. I have no idea.
I mean, it's legal in a lot of states. So yeah, so the other big discussion of things going on all weekend was Mike Tyson and the Jake Paul fight, man.
Like I said yesterday, I thought it was the most entertaining boxing match I've seen. I haven't been that entertained shit since I seen the Lennox Lewis and, uh, Tyson fight, really? Like I was a kid, like by, you know, I didn't really, after Tyson retired, like after he got older and you know what I mean, I was doing dad stuff and I guess I kind of stopped watching boxing. I didn't really like boxing. I didn't like, what was his name? Sugar Shane Mosley. I wasn't watching him. Roy Jones was a great fighter. Obviously he's probably one of the pound for pound, I don't know.
I had a lot of— there was a lot of star power on the show. You got the Gronk there.
Someone, uh, asked, do you think if Roy Jones in his prime could have whooped Mike Tyson in his prime? And that would have been a— that would have been a fight. That would have been a fight to watch. Roy Jones versus Mike Tyson.
What about Muhammad Ali?
Versus Mike?
Yeah.
I don't think Muhammad would have been able to take that power, but I don't know. Mike was a different, you know, and I mean, from just watching that fight, like everybody was saying, like, oh, it was rigged, it was staged, all this and other. I seen a 58-year-old man in a ring with a 27-year-old kid who for the first 2 rounds look like, in my opinion, if he would have pressed, put his foot on the gas, could have knocked Jake Paul out easily, right? I digress.
Well, apparently they put stuff in the contract to prevent Mike Tyson from— like, they're saying he couldn't do it, his uppercut move, and he had to last the whole 8 rounds apparently to get the max $20 mil. I guess he needs the money.
Well, who doesn't need $20 million?
Well, I'm just saying.
I don't think Mike Tyson needs the money, bro. He's rich.
Okay.
Mike Tyson is mega rich. I mean, I know he's got a big investment going on. I mean, Jake Paul must need the money if that's the case.
I mean, he was wearing, they said his outfit was $1 million.
Yeah. I mean, you need $20 million to keep up with your habits.
I mean, that's kind of crazy.
$1 million outfit? That's just stupid to me.
What was on it?
I have no idea. I was not paying attention to Jake Paul's shorts, sir.
Somebody should have just pulled them off.
I was hoping Jake, Mike just knocked him out, man. For me, it was like the old heads versus the young heads. At the end of the day, like I said, man, that guy, man, he looks great. And on some real shit, like, I'm gonna keep— let's keep it real here, all right?
Yeah.
And all of you guys talking it was fake, if any of you walked up to Mike Tyson and started talking some shit, yeah, I guarantee you would close your mouth faster than— I don't even, you know, whatever. Like, you're not— Mike Tyson will mess you up, bro. Like, at the end, I mean, I saw him and you're not— I'm 44 and I'm not about to fight Mike Tyson, bro.
No, but did you see him in his, his like sparring?
Of course I watched Mike. Mike Tyson's like my, one of my idols as a kid growing up, bro.
No, no, but I'm saying they showed before the—
of course I watched this shit, man.
Yeah, it was great.
But I'm saying, that's what I'm saying, like to me it looked like Mike, one, his knee looked like it was hurt.
Yeah, he said his knee was hurt at the end.
Two, it didn't look like he, you know, he looked like he was skipping leg day. I mean, I could be wrong, but you know, like My man, he was telling me too, you know, he, he, uh, he was a very athletic guy in his youth and, uh, he hurt his legs and he lost a lot of, uh, muscle mass in both his legs, right? And when that happens, you're shit out of luck. You know, I'm sure Mike Tyson went a few years without doing anything, right? Right. I'm having a real hard time gaining muscle back in my right bicep because of the my two surgeries and just sitting dormant for as long as I was, you know what I mean? So I understood that after hearing that, I didn't feel so like, you know, angry at Mike for skipping leg day, but it still looked like he was skipping leg day in my opinion.
So I put a poll on LinkedIn and so it got 90 votes, got like a few thousand views, like over 2,000 views. 54 people thought the fight was fixed. 10 said no. 18 people said Netflix made a lot of money, and 8 said Mike should have bit off somebody's ear.
Not for $20 mil.
I, I was hoping that like at some point Tyson was just gonna bum rush him and then just start—
that's what I'm saying. I don't— that's why I really don't believe that Jake Paul, with all the stuff in the contract, I don't think that he could really take that because like I said, like the one— the couple jabs that I— the one jab that threw him into the ropes.
Yeah.
If, if Mike would have kept going, right, it was— he was done.
He could have been.
That's what I'm saying.
They showed like in some highlights on YouTube, they were like, oh, right here Mike could have gave him the uppercut, and right here there was a few like openings for sure.
I mean, there was a lot of times when even when like Jake was like giving him the rabbit punch and Mike was kind of falling back and then he started biting his glove. He was pissed. I know. And, and you could tell right there that, yeah, obviously they couldn't go 100% full throttle against each other, right? Mike's 58, right? The other guy's 27. No one wanted to see Mike Tyson get hurt. Exactly right. Someone— you— Mike Tyson gets punched in his head, now what, he's got— he's concussed and he's never the same? Because he fought Jake Paul.
That would be—
that would be terrible, bro, right?
Yeah.
And it would have— Mike Tyson breaks this guy's face and now he can't be Jake Paul, you know what I'm saying? Or whatever, like he gets concussed and he's not the same because he got punched by Mike Tyson, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. So regardless of that, it was a great, super entertaining The fight before that, the Boricua woman, she got robbed. She should have won that fight. There's no way in hell that Irish woman beat her. The fight before that was just basura. That was a flaming dumpster fire.
It just looked like two guys they picked up off the street.
Straight up. The one guy was in the bag on break. He was the dishwasher in the restaurant at the, at whatever, wherever they were at the Dallas, football stadium. The other guy was just a bum, straight bum.
But it was weird.
It was, it was highly entertaining.
Well, the other guy was supposedly like some top fighter from India.
Yeah, but I mean, he was hitting like this.
I don't know, it was very—
he was hitting with his wrist, bro.
The women fighting—
sorry, I can't— no, pause.
The women fighting was crazy.
That was a great fight.
And also, I'll tell you all what else would kind of like— Jake Paul came out, they like pushed him like in a car with this whole entourage.
Like, he was—
it was like— and then Mike just came out, Mike doing his thing, man.
I was gonna say that he came out to a great song too. Shout out to Hip Hop. I love hip hop.
I can't—
it slipped my mind, but yeah. Anyway, that was great. That was a great way to start the weekend.
So here I got— here's a good— here's the weight.
What we did, Netflix, at the peak there was 65 million views.
It was worldwide.
It was crazy. 65 million people.
No wonder they watched the show. I mean, I had to rewind it so that it would play good, play well, you know. So yeah, it was real time.
I had to mess around with the— I backed it up because they booted us out a bunch of times at first. Like, yeah. So from like, from what my understanding is, if you were like on a user or something like that from someone else's account. Yeah, if you weren't in that house, it wasn't going to work.
Oh wow, that's crazy because I mean, people were complaining non-stop on Facebook and Twitter, Netflix giving them the—
I mean, it's the first time they did it.
I mean, they're talking about putting some NFL games on Netflix.
They want to put the NFL halftime show, I think.
I don't know, some kind of show.
Beyoncé is about to do her country album for sure.
Well, she already has one.
No, she's gonna do it live.
Oh, live. Oh, okay, cool.
She's gonna stream it live on Netflix.
Nice.
That's— they're gonna— that's their strategy. They're gonna break into music and sports.
Okay, well, they're trying to do that on Prime too. Well, Prime's been basketball. They got a lot of stuff going on. Yeah. I don't know.
All right, so what else you got, man?
Here's a crazy story. A mil— over a million dollars of tequila was hijacked in Texas on its way from Mexico to the United States. And the tequila company is Guy Fieri and Sammy Hagar's Tequila. And these two trucks with over a million dollars of tequila Poof, disappeared.
Just $1 million?
Yeah, apparently over a million dollars worth of tequila. I don't know if that's retail value or wholesale value.
Was it already labeled with their stuff?
Yeah, it's already labeled and boxed.
It's because there was 50 million of cocaine on that truck and it got through and they were like, man, sorry, guy, we're going to have a party.
I don't know what happened, but the cops are looking for it. I mean, you would think like a truck like that, that's got a million-dollar cargo in it, two trucks, you would think that they would have trackers on those things and everything. Satellite would be hooked up to something.
Yeah, I'm sure they do, but when you're on a heisty, man, you know how to just, you know.
I know, I'm just saying stuff.
You need to turn it off. Or, you know, they dropped the trailer. —en bangá.
I mean, I would be having them hidden in boxes and stuff.
And that's a little paranoid. I mean, Guy Fieri ain't going down to Mexico and putting Apple tags in his— I don't know.
I don't know.
Nice try. I mean, I can say I could see how— so I bet you somebody does do that. I bet you there are people who do do that. Yeah.
I mean, I know guys that have ATM machines and they put AirTags in inside the machines, inside the top, inside the cash boxes. Taped to different places in case somebody tries to steal an ATM. They got, you know, they can catch them maybe. But, you know, I've heard of that. People put it in their luggage, backpacks.
Oh, with the backpacks for kids is smart. Genius. I've seen, uh, this one woman, um, she, she sewed them into her children's shoes. Yeah, that's, that's—
I like that. That's pretty cool.
Tongue of the shoe. Right. Very, you know, back in the day, remember kangaroo shoes? Yeah. What were they called? Ruse. Yeah, I wanted a pair so bad, but they were expensive when I was a kid. Yeah, because they had the little zipper on the side, stash spot, a little stasher.
So, you know, James Bond is making a comeback. Doing what? They're gonna have the new James Bond is going to be Jason Statham. He's already got a—
what happened to the woman? I don't know.
I get who— what, the woman that was supposed to be a woman? There's a woman in the movie too.
She's supposed to be the 007.
Well, he's in the movie and the double—
new double Jason Statham isn't cool enough to be James Bond, bro. I mean, he's the like top action star right now.
Who's the top action star?
It's not about being an action star, like James Bond was a cool character.
Was it going to be Matt Damon?
Like, Colin Farrell would be a better—
Colin Farrell? Yeah, he was kind of— he would be way better. He's cool. He's got the cool—
but I'm just saying, like, you know, he's older, you know what I mean? He's got the Irish accent.
Nobody's as good as Sean Connery though. Sean Connery?
Well, yeah, I mean, he, you know, he was the shit. He's beside him, the next guy, the younger guy with the hair, that was kind of like in the '90s. What was his name?
I don't remember all the James Bond actors. And then the other guy after him, Pierce Brosnan was James Bond. I don't think that was— that might be his name. Yeah, Pierce Brosnan, he was James.
But yeah, the, uh, James Bond, I don't know. Jason Statham, why he's not— he just, I don't know, doesn't seem Doesn't seem like a good fit to me.
Well, he's in like all the action movies now, like every action. Again, we're not talking about action. Sean Connery, David Niven, and George Lazenby. Roger Moore, he was a good James Bond. Roger Moore, Timothy Dalton. Then you had Pierce Brosnan, Daniel Craig.
Pierce Brosnan, that's the guy I remember.
Right. And now it's going to be—
he was all right too. He was like good-looking, no diddy, like, you know what I mean? Like, that was just that guy. Like, I feel like the only reason he got that role is because he had an English accent and he was handsome. But anyway, man.
Yeah. So he's going to be—
in other news, in other news, what we got? What? In other news, man, I don't know, weird. I was I was, uh, reading about Google because it's like the year anniversary they got, um, you know, found guilty for their antitrust lawsuit, right? And the DOJ is full throttle, full steam ahead about disassembling Google, Alphabet, and Meta. Well, we're talking about Google here. Yeah, but so the DOJ wants them to sell Chrome.
Yeah. Oh yeah, that's been going on for a while. I've been reading about—
like, just wait a minute here. What other entity could purchase Chrome and make it viable?
The government, which I wouldn't want.
I mean, exactly. There you couldn't Like, you're taking—
that would be the ultimate propaganda tool to own Chrome, whoever owns it.
Because then at that point, then they're saying if you own it, you can't run ads on it.
Yeah, they're not— I don't know, they're like, there's a whole thing about the ads and what's going on with the ads and what ads are they allowing, not allowing. I think they're not giving small businesses a good chance on there.
I mean, I think, I think Google needs to go full steam ahead on that appeal before they can get any legs on this.
The only thing I think that Google should do that they don't do now, and the same thing with Facebook when it comes to ads, I think they need to give small businesses a way to run ads in your like local market and not have to compete, compete like on a national level and compete against the large companies.
It's a, it's so that you have a better chance. Like we, you know, this is something that we talk about I know, it's just like, it's not fair. It's very— I'm saying on a way to manage it, right? Like, any— so if you had an opportunity to like buy, to place 5,000 ATMs somewhere by spending $10,000, you would do that, right? So that's just the logic with ads. Okay, no, no, but what I'm saying is, I get what you're saying, but I mean like, how do you So then what? You have to put a limit on your budget. You got to put a limit on bidding for keywords. Yeah, but that's not what I'm putting— you are though.
I know, but I'm trying to explain what—
because there's no other way. Because, well, besides what you're saying, the other way is like not allowing big corporations to use that platform to advertise, which isn't a bad thing, but then you would That would be discrimination.
What I'm saying is, is they should show national, like have two levels of ads. Oh, this is the national, someone buying national ads, right? But national is local. Hold on. And then give SMBs a chance where they have SMB ads because we, you know, we can't compete against these humongous billion-dollar companies. But if there was a section on there, oh, here's your local payment processors that took out ads and it's, you know, there's whatever, some way to arrange it on the screen, then people can have it. And the same thing for if you have a small Justin's T-Shirt Store or Sean's Auto Repair. How does he have a chance against— Sean's Auto Repair against Tire Kingdom and Pep Boys and things like that? So you have to be— you have to keep your ad budget low and hope that you get some ads, but they're not giving— they don't have a way for small businesses to be seen. It's not like you go back 30, 35 years when I owned a restaurant. If I took out an ad in the Friday paper, everybody saw it because they bought the paper. Right. But I'm just saying now that I don't have that.
We don't have that.
We don't have that level playing field anymore. And it needs to be established.
I think it's, it's literally impossible. Well, no, it's not impossible. But if then how come it's not possible when you like, if you look, because they're all on TV and you're trying to get a radio spot or you're trying to get an advertisement on your local TV, it's going to cost you an arm and a leg, right? If you're trying to get on your local radio, it's going to cost you an arm and a leg. And only certain tiers of businesses can afford that. I get it. So, I mean, really what you're saying is— I understand what you're saying, but on like being on like who works, who's listening to the radio. I listen to the radio. I might listen to the radio right now in the office every day.
Yeah, I know, but I don't hear that.
There's a lot all the time. Okay, but I'm just saying, constantly for—
I know, but I'm performance. I understand that, but I'm just saying like the biggest advertising platforms there are is probably Google, YouTube, and Facebook. Those are your 3 biggest platforms, right?
And I mean, so Alphabet owns 2 of the big 3, right? Yeah, because obviously I, I would agree that I don't even know if— what would be a number tight third? LinkedIn, maybe? I don't know. I don't know what—
in tight third, nothing. Twitter? I don't know. I don't think I don't even see that many ads on Twitter when I look.
They're just starting to roll it out. That's why it's not— I think it's available for everybody.
No, but the thing is, is that I think they're just— there's got to be a way for it to be verified too. Google's smart enough that they can figure out how to show local businesses more.
That's what the Map Pack was for, but the Map Pack got messed up when people started— when when they, uh, realized that you would rank higher in the map pack if you had more reviews. So if you have more reviews, it doesn't even matter if it's 5-star, 3-star, you know, as long as it's 3 to 5 star. And if you get 60 reviews on Google, you're gonna rank number 1 in the map pack.
And it— and I'll tell you what else is crazy, the FTC is cracking down on like fake reviews And they've been saying that shit for 10 years. No, well, they just recently like put it— had fined like a bunch of companies for fake reviews. Still gonna happen tomorrow. I get it.
People are gonna hire someone to write them a review.
I get emails for that every day. Oh, we can get you, uh, reviews, blah blah blah blah blah.
It's like the streaming, it's just like viewership on YouTube. It's all pay to play, bro.
No, I get it.
There's nothing that you can't buy in this world.
No, I, I get it.
I'm just saying, you know, extension of life.
Just saying, the thing is, is that by not giving small businesses ways to advertise, it just limits what they can, what they can do online. I agree, man. And, and it makes it tough for someone to have a small business and stay in business.
You think that the DOJ is going to end up being able to break up Alphabet?
They're going to press it the same way they're going to press Amazon. Listen, Amazon, not Amazon, Meta. But when you look back, right, you're maybe a little too young to remember, you know, that we had the Bell, Ma Bell, right? So that was the phone system. I remember Bell. Bell, right? So Bell ran all the telephones.
There's only one in the United States.
Yeah, that was it. Yeah, right. And then they broke it up. Right. So then they broke up the telephone system. And then after they broke up was—
I can't believe they let that happen. What, break it up?
It was kind of stupid to do it, but that's what they wanted to do. And then the next thing that happened is, is they deregulated like long-distance calling, right? So then that happened, and then the cell phone basically—
Long-distance call, oh shit, I remember getting so much trouble for calling somebody who didn't live in Wisconsin before. Oh yeah, it was crazy. It'd be like $20, $200 on you.
Oh yeah, You could run up, you know, and then you had those 900 numbers and those 800 numbers. But no, but there was ones where you would get your fortune read. No, but you didn't know. You would just call up and call some 900 number. And the next thing you know, you're getting some $500 phone bill. A lot of it was for phone sex. Oh yeah. And getting your fortune read and dating. And it was all scam, very scammy, you know. But then the cell phone comes out, and then the whole long-distance industry is kaput, ruined. Yeah, you know. And then today, you know, I guarantee if you look at like small businesses, a lot of small businesses, they might put in a landline, but they're— they use the owner's cell phone as usually like the main number of the business. Yeah, they're not— people are not— a lot of businesses, unless you've been around for like like us, been around for years, you don't have landlines. Like, we have a landline.
I did for a while. It was just a pain in the ass trying to manage the two, and then I had the phone merge into my phone anyway.
And yeah, that's why people get rid of it, and then they just get rid of it. And then at some point, if you go from an office to like home base, or an office into a smaller office, right, then people sometimes get rid of it because now you can get— still keep the number. Right before, you couldn't keep the number. I remember when we moved from down the street over to this office. Oh yeah, no, it was definitely— If you weren't within 5 miles, you couldn't keep your phone number.
You see Spirit files in bankruptcy.
Yeah, that's crazy. And they're selling a boatload of airplanes too. Really? Yeah, they got a whole bunch of airplanes for sale.
Well, the FTC put the kaputski on the merger between JetBlue and Spirit. Yeah. And I feel like—
And why would you do that? And also Frontier tried to do something with them. Yeah, like why would you stop them from selling?
I don't know what— there's a lot of competition in the, in the airplane, and, you know, in whatever the airline industry, you know what I'm saying?
Yeah, you see new airlines come up all the time, like Allegiant.
They just— it's an older company, they just swap a new paint job on their planes. Yeah, rebrand.
Yeah, they rebrand. Yeah, I mean, JetBlue merged with AirTran, you know, we used to have AirTran. I used to love AirTran. That was great. You could fly, you know, Southwest, you know, they changed whatever. It's just crazy, like how the airline industry works. And then these companies have no money.
I remember flying Spirit when it first launched and it was great. I was flying to Milwaukee, New York every— man, a lot.
It used to be there. I mean, when they first started, it was like bargain basement price, you know, but then they started nickel and diming you.
Round trips, round trip, $95, $85.
Yeah, well, JetBlue is like a special thing.
Straight shot too, no layovers.
Like from here to New York on JetBlue, you can do $99, but you're limited to, uh, only one bag that goes under your seat. You can't bring a suitcase. If you want to bring a suitcase, like another $25.
Real quick, in, uh, AI news, NVIDIA released a survey, uh, about financial institutions and artificial intelligence. Okay. 91% of financial institutions are either implementing AI already or are like, you know, about to launch something. Interesting. And to remember, we were talking and we thought it was more going to be used for fraud, right?
It's not. No, definitely not.
They're not using it for fraud at all. And it's like mainly customer service. Oh yeah, I see a lot. Like out of the 91%, right? 43% of the companies that are actually implementing, it's for customer service. The other stuff is for like writing code for their, you know, apps and different programs that they're using and shit like that. But yes, that, that, that I was like, wow, 90, almost 100%, man. That's a lot. That's a lot, a lot, a lot. You know, and it's only going to grow a lot. Well, I see everything.
The biggest things now, like we get messages for every day, chatbots and AI to answer the phone at the office. Right. The AI, it's all customer service stuff. Yeah, it's all customer service related. I don't know if it would help.
It's all you guys out there talking about the tech jobs, man. They ain't going nowhere. AI's not gonna be a long—
not a long ways off from that.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, teams is definitely, you know, getting cut short, but you know, that's just— you gotta learn, you guys, part of the game. You gotta learn AI. Yeah, you can't, you can't not use the tool.
Yeah, you gotta learn, you gotta learn AI. That's the bottom line.
Well, I hope everybody enjoyed the pod. Stay safe.
Peace out. Carpe diem. Like, follow, and share.
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