He Built and Sold Two AI Companies. His Best Lesson Isn't About AI. | Jay Hack, Head of AI @ClickUp

In this interview segment, Jay Hack, Head of AI at ClickUp, reflects on the rapid evolution of AI coding agents beyond pure programming tasks. He explains that these agents are now being used for a wide range of knowledge work—including data analytics, drafting well‑reasoned documents, and handling customer support—demonstrating that code is essentially an explicit encoding of reasoning. Hack argues that humans vastly underestimate how many cognitive tasks AI will soon perform, suggesting that any task that can be defined as a human activity is likely to be automated. He notes that the next major abstraction layer after code is natural language (English), which will enable even broader AI applicability. Finally, he offers unconventional business advice: contrary to common wisdom, you shouldn’t pitch your business, a point he believes is often overlooked.










