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The War to Prove You're Human — and Why We're Losing | Zach Meltzer, CEO@VeryAI

10 Jun 2026 · 1 min

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In this interview, Angelina Yang questions Zach Meltzer, CEO of VeryAI, about the rapidly increasing threat of deepfake biometric attacks, which have risen 58% this year, especially targeting finance and banking. Meltzer describes an arms race where trillions of dollars flow into AI generation tools while only billions are allocated to detection, leaving systems vulnerable. He critiques reliance on facial, fingerprint, or iris recognition, noting massive facial databases like Facebook’s, and proposes palm biometrics as a more secure human verification method. The conversation also touches on the feasibility for developers to prototype palm biometric solutions, the competitive landscape (e.g., Amazon), and the broader risk of AI‑driven fraud.

Deepfake biometric attacks are up by 58% this year. Are you the guy who's fixing this?
Fraud, especially in finance and banking, is not something new, but it's been massively proliferated by the amount of AI and deepfake that we see today.
Are we actually in an arms race that never ends?
There are quite literally trillions of dollars being poured into AI generation and hardly even billions being poured into AI detection. Rather than using face fingerprint or iris. We use the palm of your hand to verify that you're a unique human. Companies like Facebook, they have one of the largest facial databases in the world simply because you're sharing your face without really thinking twice about it.
So right now I can wave at you and it's okay?
In this setting, yes, it's okay.
Hi, Zach.
At your own risk.
I looked a little bit into your palm biometric space. If I'm a developer in this space, I'm thinking it's possible for me to prototype this, you know, in a short amount of time using open source. What would I miss?
Only other companies on par would be like an Amazon.
Have you personally experienced one?
Maybe like 2 or 3 weeks ago now where someone tried to book a dinner reservation on Resy using their agent, and not only was the transaction blocked because they thought it was a bot, but his entire account was banned because it looked like a malicious action. There's a very real and valid use case, but over the next few months or the next year, we're going to see this expand.