Three speakers debate the Syrian conflict's geopolitical roots. Speaker B argues Saudi Arabia's Wahhabi ideology directly fuels ISIS, al-Qaeda, and al-Nusra, and calls Turkish President Erdoğan a Muslim Brotherhood fanatic seeking to become a modern sultan. Speaker C challenges these claims about Wahhabi unity and Erdoğan's control.
To put us as second-class citizens in our country and put these other people, these alien colonisers, before us.
Saudi Arabia is an anarchic autocracy, medieval system that's based on the Wahhabi dark ideology. Actually, let's say it's a marriage between the Wahhabi and the political system for 200 years now.
That's how we look at it. And what is their connection to ISIS?
The same ideology, the same background.
So ISIS and Saudi Arabia are one and the same? The same ideology, yes. Same ideology.
It's Wahhabi ideology. Their ideology is based on the books of the Wahhabi in Saudi Arabia.
So you believe that all Wahhabis have the same ideology as ISIS?
Exactly, definitely. And that's known by ISIS, by al-Qaeda, by al-Nusra. It's not something we discover or we try to promote. It's very— I mean, their book, they use the same books to indoctrinate the people. About Turkey? Turkey, let's say, is about Erdoğan, his Muslim Brotherhood fanatics. And— Doesn't mean that he is a member, but he is a fanatic.
President Erdoğan is?
Is Muslim Brotherhood fanatic. And he is somebody who is suffering from political megalomania, and you think that he is becoming the sultan. Of the new era, of the 21st century.
You think he could stop the border if he wanted to?
Yeah, of course, definitely. He doesn't only ignore the terrorists from coming to Syria, he supports them logistically and militarily, directly, on daily basis. And if you take the example of Kobani, what he called it Kobani, it's called Ain al-Arab, the city where the Kurds were fighting ISIS and where the The campaign started, the military campaign, the American military campaign started there. It took them 4 months to liberate that small city, not only because the airstrikes were cosmetic, as we said, but because of the direct support of the Turks to ISIS.