How To Solve The World's Problems w/ Marx Succes #WednesdayWithWyan

You're in a pinch, you're in a bad place. What do you seek to do?

Give to somebody else.

Give to somebody else. And then what happens?

Magic shows up?

Something comes your way for some reason? We live in a universe that is very much has reciprocity coded in somehow. And when you give out, you receive.

Hey, capitalists. It's time to crack open your favorite beverage. I like zevia. This is Wednesday with Wyan on capitalism dot com.

Mark Success. The man so successful they named it after him.

I've heard everything.

Sorry, did someone just tickle you?

Who, me?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. You made it. You made a loud noise. It was adorable.

Yeah, I laughed. I've always been known for, like, having a racist. I try to suppress it. Every now and then, I laugh from my soul.

You're a good man. What's up, dude?

Not much.

So, first of all, before we go into politics and religion.

Is that where you think this is going? I do.

Yeah.

Before we go into politics and religion, would you tell me you've had some braingasms the last day and a half?

Yeah.

So would you come in here thinking about.

Well, I came in here thinking we had a. My wife and I had a long laundry list of things that we wanted to know and where we thought our business should be going. We were not thinking of our business bigger than what it actually like. Like what you're saying is. I thought I was thinking big, but not thinking big like I should.

Yeah.

And.

Why was that? Why were you. Why were you not thinking as big as you could?

Because of just the information that's out there. Right. You're consuming content and you're learning one way of doing things.

But.

I guess I was too zoomed in, kind of just to keep your. Your. The terms that you're using. If you're looking at your business while you're in it, instead of looking at it holistically, you really can't tell.

How you should be doing your business and what it's capable of and what an investor would see as valuable.

Yeah.

Because you. What you hold valuable while you're in it is not what it is from a high level.

Yeah. Were you thinking about building an asset to sell previously?

That's the funny thing. I would say that, yes, I'm looking to build a sellable asset. If you had asked me that when I first came here, I would have been like, yeah, for sure. But what was. What's going to make it sellable is not what I was doing. You know what I mean? So this whole experience kind of turned everything on its head. And I feel like, good thing I came, because I'd have been wasting a lot of time doing things that were not going to help me achieve what I want.

And what's different now? What did you see differently?

I'm seeing that.

I'm serving a person.

I'm not serving Amazon. Is that one way to. One way to say it? Like, you get so caught up in the numbers and, you know, what's selling good and has Amazon, which is a sales channel, has invalidated you as a business and your products that you forget. Like, you know, I have a real human on the other end of this transaction who's buying my product and having an experience with it. And inherently, beyond that, things become valuable when you get more people to see that.

What that person is saying, yeah, what's different?

Moving forward, focus on that person, you know, and we have a customer we know we're selling to. I think that's one of the unique.

Things about our product. And we're gonna focus on that person and what they want, give them what they want. We want them to know exactly what they're gonna get after they get our product. And we're gonna make it apparent to them when they experience it, they're gonna tell us about it. They're gonna tell the world about it. Wanna excite them.

Would you clap that up right there? Good work.

Okay, you wanna talk politics and religion?

I didn't say that.

Sorry, I'm a little.

I didn't say that.

I'm a little.

I mean. Okay, so the question was, what's the biggest problem facing the world today? And immediately I said pain.

So I'm a huge believer in the phrase to hurt people. Hurt people. And I think the biggest problem, at least that we have in our society today is that we have so many hurt people just walking around. Capcom. Great conference to go to, by the way.

Agreed. Seconded.

Had a speaker, Bedros Coolian, he hit it on Heaven. And I've mentioned it before, but, I mean, his speech to me was, like, super impactful.

I think we have a lot of us walking around in society today, and we're basically doing our best to cope with pain that we don't speak about.

And.

The analogy I always give people is, like, I used to play football in high school, and my head would be ringing, and every time I got hit or every time I laid a hit, it would hurt tremendously. And everybody's just, you know, tougher walking around. Everybody's going through it. So it's like. And my head would be ringing. It would like ringing incessantly. And that's how I know cte. And all this stuff is real. And then what is real cte? The little concussion, constant impact to the head. And I would. One day I built up the nerve to just talk to each other.

I'm sorry. I have a friend named ct and we talk about pain and hidden pain all the time. And I was like, you know, CT is real.

What. Who have I been talking to? So go on. My brain was still coming on that.

Cte and I finally built up the nerve to talk to a teammate about it. I was just like, man, my head is killing me and it doesn't stop when I leave practice. It's always hurting. And he was like, man, all of our, like, you get, you get used to it. And I was like, really? This is like intense, like discomfort. And then I always use that analogy to say, like, it's kind of the same thing. We all have experienced pain or hurt in our lives and we walk around and we end up hurting other people along the way. And we're compensating for that hurt in our lives in different ways because we're all into different, different people. But nobody ever talks about it.

Yeah.

So I think it's one of the biggest problems. Bedros, when he got on stage and he said like, I mean, he was ultra personal with it. I mean, a lot of people would never disclose what he disclosed, but the things, the behaviors he's talked about, he was exhibiting. I thought about how many people do I know that act just like that? And I wonder what happened to them.

Yeah. And you're talking about when bedroom is talking about the. His dog. Right. And his dog, when he doesn't have problems, will dig him up. Is that what you're talking about?

Right, right. But then he talked about what had happened in his past and how that, like it was really messed up. I mean, you can look that up, you let him tell it. But that was pain. I mean, wrong not knowing how to deal with it and then just like acting out to overcompensate, you know, like his particular pain challenged his idea of what he thought he was to be a man. And he just acted out, trying to prove things to himself and then in the process touching other people's lives and hurting them too. But that stuff is so cyclical. Right. I read a stat in African American community. They saying like 75% of people of children are born into single parent households. 75%. And I'm like, then you read another stat that says, like, you know, having a stable household by, like, age 30 or waiting to have kids to that point could dramatically increase your chances of wealth. And then you start, like, that's connected. Like, poverty is a problem. Having kids early is something that's definitely prevalent in that community. And how many men are just hurt trying not to be their dad, end up being their dad who hurt them? And then it just. The cycle repeats, and it's just cyclical. And I don't think anything's an accident. I think hurt people, hurt people. We don't talk about it, and then we've got everybody just walking around just hurt.

So if you ask what the biggest problem is facing society today, that's immediately what I said. It's like, pain.

So what? I mean, I have zero disagreement. And I wonder what perpetuates that.

I wonder what in our society can perpetuates that ability. The only thing that I have been able to identify is that we just feel so disconnected from one another because we live. We. We don't. We don't live in tribes. We live in high rises. You know, we don't live. We are. The family structure doesn't really exist anymore. You know, because of that, I just think we feel so disconnected from one another. So we feel like we're on our own. I'm curious what you think.

That's a little. That's a heavy question. But I would say, look, I'd start by saying it's getting worse. It definitely has something to do with how we interact with one another. I mean, think about it. We're speaking less a conversation like this. I haven't looked at my phone in a few hours.

It's awesome.

But how many people have their heads down in their phone? And we're communicating, we're saying whatever we want through anonymity, through text and things of that nature. We're not truly communicating one another and being honest and open about deep things. Like, do any. Like, I often ask people, like, how many truly meaningful, deep relationships do you have you mentioned quantity over quality. As far as your relationships, you don't need, like, millions of more friends. You need a deeper. Like, that is huge.

Like, I don't need to meet more friends. I just need to go all in on the people I already love.

Exactly. And I think we need more of that because what's perpetuating this pain is the. Is the silence. You know, some of this pain that people go through. Like, we're talking about molestation. Like, I was. They did like an awareness when I.

Was in high school.

And it was like they rang a bell, like every couple seconds. And the stat is like once every, like nine seconds, some girl somewhere is molested. You know what I mean? It's just like that's going to follow her for the rest of her life. And what is she going to do to compensate for that and end up hurting someone else in the process or just hurting herself? And so anything we do in our society that limits our ability to build relationships with one another or just simply to communicate our pain will absolutely exacerbate the problem. And there's nothing worse than just hurting individuals and just moving on through life. And they have to deal with that. Actions have consequences, and we completely destroy ourselves in the process.

What do we do about that, Marx? You know what's funny is that so Evan Pagan is famous for saying that if he can describe someone else's problem better than they can articulate it, they automatically assume that you have the answer. So what do we do about this problem, Marx? How do we save the world?

All right, now this dives into my worldview.

Are we about to debate religion? Because that's about to be awesome.

I have a Judeo Christian worldview.

Uh huh. I had one of those ones.

I know. And so I think that.

The answer to the world's problems, high level, is Jesus.

So tell me why.

Okay.

We'Re gonna need more wine.

Actually, wait a minute. If Jesus is the answer, I can just pour water into my wine glass.

You see what I did there?

I see what you did there. I see what you did there. Wish him some buffalo.

It's his first miracle. It's a Bible joke.

Okay. Careful. He might do it.

That'd be great.

I'm telling you, this will turn into a whole other live session.

Turn off the camera.

That would go really viral.

So tell me why.

All right, let's make the question a little less broad.

Because wine is terrible, by the way.

Good for you.

Jesus is the answer because.

What he did.

Is the answer to humanity's problem. I think the problem that really exists, the whole pain thing, it really resides in each and every one of us. The capability of the human heart. And Jesus answers to that condition. It's such a. You know, that question you ask is broad, but that's essentially it. Jesus can answer to the question, to the problem, which is the condition of man's heart. He's the only one capable of changing man's heart.

And I want you to answer why?

Why?

Yeah.

Okay. I guess I need to know where you're coming from on this, because there's a lot of ways to tackle this. Right. So are you coming from just an agnostic point of view, or you just, like, atheistic?

I'm coming from a curious point of.

View, but I'm saying, like, what is. Where's your. Where's your line?

I don't need you to persuade me.

I'm not persuading. I'm not.

I don't need you to persuade me away from a certain worldview. I need you to persuade me on why you think that is the case.

I think that's the case from what I've experienced in my life.

Okay.

That's one thing. And I've also seen it from a global perspective. Like I said, I told you, I did missionary work growing up, all throughout growing up. And I've seen what the message of Jesus Christ can do for people's lives throughout the entire world.

So could I make the same argument for someone who is in Scientology and says, you have no idea the impact that this has had on my life?

Yeah. Impact is one thing. I also think that you have to have everything based in truth. Like, I think if you place your faith in anything, it should come from a point of understanding.

Well, then we would get into a debate of what's true and what's not true.

True. And that's a.

That's the truth. True. That's the truth. That's the truth.

And we could probably debate all day long.

That's what I'm saying.

How we figure out what's true and what's not true. Yeah, but it. But if someone comes to you and says, like, you have no idea the. The impact that auditing and the truth of Scientology has had in my life. And the. The truth is, we're all walking around.

All right, so you're saying impact is not. Is not a valid way.

All right, I'm. I'm asking.

So let me take it to my thought process.

Walk me through your thought process, Marks.

I believe there's a guy.

Right.

I believe that there was an. A beginning. There is a God that created and gave us reality, space, time, matter. Right. He exists outside of it, and he gave us that. Right.

And that argument, if you leave the scripture out of it, since we're just talking logically here. I believe that there's logically a beginning. Right. And that is totally cohesive with science and things of that nature. And then my thought process is, if I believe that there was a beginning and there was a intentional being that Caused the beginning. I believe that as a being, I have a responsibility to assign or try to understand who that person is or what that thing is and what it means to me. Now, if I take that and extrapolated it to say.

How does that relate to me in the physical world and to my existence here? I look at history, I see a figure named Jesus Christ. I believe he was telling the truth, that he was God. And if he was God, all the attributes that are listed in the Bible are the characteristics of God. Apparently he loves me and he cares about me and has an ultimate plan for my life. I place my faith in that. And Jesus said he's the only way to God. And so therefore I believe that that is the answer. I think ultimately ascribing to that belief answers to the condition of the human heart. And it gives my assigns, my life, ultimate meaning and purpose.

Do you make. Does the word exclusive factor into that then?

Absolutely, because I think all religions have exclusive. So all belief systems are.

They all have exclusivity in them. Okay. I mean, a lot of people try to make the argument that at best they're superficially the same, but they're basically.

Inherently different because they all claim exclusive and they can't all be exclusively true.

Right. And even if they don't try to use the word exclusive or the only way or this and the third, the precept, like, I don't have to study all religions. They all fall into a couple buckets. Monotheistic, you know, and just, you know, if you think Buddhism, Hinduism, things like that, many deities. And so ultimately, if you believe certain things at the beginning, when you start the conversation about it, the different.

Religions.

Yeah, I'm. I'm weighing the benefits of, of having a debate and just listening. But.

Right now I'm just listening.

I need questions.

No, I mean, I mean, I try to break it down as best I can because it's, it's a big question. If you ask me why I believe there's been tons of influence. Oh, yeah, Yeah. I mean, to break it down logically, that's something that a lot of people, when they have faith or believe in something they can't do. I mean, by the way, all of us every day live by faith. You put your faith in something. I have to believe this floor is going to hold me up. Why? Because every time I step, I know ahead of time. I've already seen it holds me up. No, I see all of you walking around. It's holding you up. It'll probably hold me up.

So the way that I say that is at some point you live on, like you accept an assumption.

And some people call that faith. I said at some point you. You make a choice of what data, of how you arrive at a conclusion or not.

Yes. And there's no such thing as blindfold.

I'm gonna not pick that battle.

The. I don't know where I was going with that one.

You mental saladed me with a glass of wine.

I was just saying maybe this will help you pick it up.

You need something, a basis to make it, to make an assumption, Right?

Yeah.

And that's to me, if someone tells me, like, I believe something just because I believe it, or if you'd asked me a question and they said, and I'd say, like, I don't know why I believe in God. I just do. It's not faith.

I have no interest in persuading someone against something that's working for them. But when. But when there's a. A deep conversation about how we arrive at those conclusions, I just concluded differently.

And that's fair. I mean, it is fair. It's just I've watched hurting people come out of this the other way once they were aligned.

I have no.

I have.

No. I have. The last thing I want to do is persuade them out of that.

It's true. By the way. We here in the Western world, to bring it back to pain a little bit, we deal with different pain than people in other parts of the world. Do you.

I know. You're right. I know what you mean.

So I often tell people this, right? Suicide, like, we hear a lot about suicide here. That's like a privilege of the West.

You don't hear or see too many people killing in the most impoverished situations in the world. You know, personally, if you ask those people you know, or you talk to them or you really observe people that in our minds are like, you got nothing coming for you. There's no opportunity. Your life, for all intents and purposes, it sucks. There's nothing coming for you here. I'm the best thing that's happened to you in all of your years of living. You have every reason to kill yourself, but we do that here, plenty.

You also don't have, you know, like, we'll have a medical clinic and people will come and have all sorts of infections and little bacterial, fungal things. But people really aren't dying of cancer.

You mean in the East?

No, just in, like, underdeveloped countries. A lot of it's just different. They deal with the problems we've solved. And then we deal with, like, other things.

The ones we've caused.

Exactly the ones we've caused. Right.

So what do you make of that? In terms of depression and suicide rates? What do they do differently?

Okay, so then that's gotta tell you something.

I like how every time I ask Marcus Joshua, she's like, oh, I got you. I'm glad you asked.

I thought you were.

Our happiness is not dictated by definitely not your stuff.

We have to start looking, I think, as a society, existentially or outside of your internal. If you're looking for that happiness. Happiness isn't the highest ethic.

Isn't the highest ethic?

No. Meaning, like you're running to a lot. I see tons of phrases on Instagram and stuff like that. The point of life is to do whatever makes you happy. Get up, do that every single day. Life doesn't work that way, in my opinion. It doesn't. And there's no way you could be happy every single moment of your life. Life is very dynamic. And if you're going through life thinking that every moment is supposed to be this moment filled with happiness and joy, you're in for a huge surprise. You know what I mean? And so if these people I'm talking about, the happiest people I've ever met, have nothing. Nothing. Can I say one more time?

I was hoping you would.

Nothing. I walked into a woman's.

Place one day. She had, like, in the Philippines, she had like four or five kids. And her home, if you want to call it that, was all clothing, shirts on the floor and, like, just clothing covering her roof. And she had no idea where her next meal was coming from. And I had, like three bags of rice on my shoulder. And, like, I came and, like, that was everything for her. You know what I mean? And she was happy. She came to, like, church the next day and, like, thanked me and, like, like, then there's people just jumping around shouting. You turn some music on and they're just dancing and shouting. Like, it's. Why are you so happy? There's nothing here. I can't wait to go home, you know, and it's just. It blows your mind. We've got it all wrong here. And that's. That's one of the things. I just think that if you're looking for it into. In yourself and you're not thinking about, like, I think maybe just. And this is where I don't have all the answers, you know, like, this isn't something I've figured out. Like, I'm not the Happiest guy alive. But it's just that I know that my answer to my happiness isn't within me. That's. That's. That's my assertion up to this point in my life. I have to look to give. Kind of like you just said, right? You're in a pinch. You're in a bad place. What is. What do you. What do you seek to do?

Give to somebody else.

Give to somebody else. And then what happens?

Magic shows up.

Something. Something comes your way. For some reason, we live in a universe that is very much has reciprocity coded in somehow. And when you give out, you receive.

So if I want to be happy and I want receive and I want things, maybe I need to.

Throw the ball away.

Amber, I don't know if you were just making a sound effect or if you were just having a brain gasm. Just braingasm.

Huge.

It's such a paradox.

What's that? That to receive something that you want, you have to give it away.

In order to receive something, you have to give it away. What do you mean?

If you want, like, if you want connection, you have to give connection.

By the way, it works all the time. Like, what you guys talked about is, like, just true. I'd never heard it like that. I was like, wow, man, I'm wasting time, like, just in my feelings and, like, what's going on? And I'm like, man, I just need to.

Make a power move and give whatever I got of value away. I feel like we spend.

I'm speaking from my own experience. Right. I mean, I know. I have no idea what goes on in your experience. It goes on for me. It's so. We're so lost in our own stress and our own pain, as you would say it, that we. For the only way that we know how to give is in the marketplace. The funny thing is that we zoom outside the marketplace and just start thinking about giving. The marketplace rewards us, and we forget this because we're lost our own stress.

The whole concept of business.

The more value you provide to your customers, what are you gonna do? They're gonna give you the money.

Yeah.

You'll get. Get, get, get, get all day as long as you. Yeah.

And people focus on the. On the getting first. How do I reverse engineer the getting?

Exactly.

They start giving like a mother trucker. That's what.

Yeah. It almost is like, oh, it's a universal principle. What else can I apply this to? And that's pretty much where I come in.

You're a good man, Marx.

I appreciate It.

Sean McCool is quoting First Peter at ya. As each has received a gift, use it to serve one another as good stewards of God's varied grace. Jason Brunson, I don't know who that is, says that you should be a wine with wine regular. Maybe we need to give you a podcast. Capitalism.com?

I'M down. I live in the area.

Robin says, I've been in the Philippines three times, and they give the shirt off their back, and sometimes all they have is the shirt on their back.

By the way, shout out to all the Filipinos out there. Most beautiful people you'll ever meet.

Agreed. Call me Filipinas.

Yeah, they're beautiful people.

Man, do they love Americans and beards. You know.

No man should ever be allowed to go to the Philippines alone. It's not good for his ego. It's not safe.

As far as facial hair.

No, they're just.

No, they just love American men and beards. They think you're a celebrity. No man should have his ego. Allowed to get that big. It's not good for his health.

Yeah, you know, I felt great in the Philippines. People thought I was friends with Michael Jordan and stuff. Stuff. I was like, yeah, you know, I know him, and he's good. Good guy.

I was asked if I was Ray Baratheon from.

Obviously.

Yes.

Okay, that's it.

Next back room event is in the Philippines. We're going to Cebu, everybody. If here's a question for Corin. If a business is bringing in $800,000 a year gross, what can it be sold for?

Not a lot, he says. That was easy.

Do you want to add anything to that?

Marx probably not qualified. Okay. Speak on that. Okay.

Gotta bow out of that one. And Tony Tessa says I'm ghost.

Ghost.

Yeah. These are the kind of comments I get from time to time.

Ghost. I'm gone.

I don't know.

You up on the latest lingo?

I'm not. No.

You know what I heard the other day?

Oh, tell me, man.

And I. I consider myself pretty connected with the culture.

I don't.

This guy's like, he. In conversation. Blah, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, man. No cat. I said no cat. What? What are you doing? I'm 28. I'm. I'm not old yet. You know what I mean? So it's like, I had to look it up, man. I went to Urban dictionary.

Hold on. Say the phrase again.

No cat.

No cat. What was the context? Please?

Just. Could you use it in a sentence? Like, if I tell you, Yeah, I have an $800,000 gross business. No cat.

Does anyone here know what that means?

No. It's like saying, oh, you want to. You want to hold the suspense a little bit longer?

No, I want you to tell me.

It's like saying, no lie. 100% true. What sucks saying I swear.

Hold on.

You see money.

You were like, oh, yeah, that makes sense. What's the connection there?

Until us? I don't know.

I didn't know. So I feel.

I feel old already. Tony, Tessa wants to know how much you make.

How much I make?

Yeah. No cap.

I already told him. You already told me. You heard my example. You know what it is? No cap.

And if you ever want to be taken seriously, I just been saying, no cap. People like, really? No cap ends conversation. Sounds good every time.

You think I can pull that off?

You can pull it off, man.

Can you give me another one?

Another?

I want to sound really cool in my next conversation.

What's a good phrase that I would.

Say, Somebody teach me some lingo, and they add it to my. My repertoire.

One thing I.

When in Rome, like when you.

When you talk to your friends, you say, bro. Right?

You're something now. I'm self conscious about it. Sure. Bruh.

Bruh.

Instead, then H B R U h. No cap. Bruh.

It means something totally different now.

That works.

Compounding lingos.

I feel cooler already. I feel cooler already. Yeah.

It actually brings a whole nother level of comfortability abilities.

I need one more.

One more. You really expert learner tonight.

Someone says, ryan, what is your net worth? My net worth has no cap, bro.

Way to go. That's a double entendre for you right there. Boom. That's not easy to do. Boom.

Well, you know, when in Rome.

Oh, drift. Oh, what's that?

Hold on. Use it in a sentence. Drip with a. But you don't say the P. Just drip.

No, it's drip, drip. Put the P. Just don't.

Oh, just a soft pee.

Drip, drip, drip.

Yeah.

How do I. Can I use it. How do I use it in a sentence?

It's almost like saying, that's your swag, but it's more about your appearance. You know, if you feel good one day. Like, you'd feel good.

Yeah. You work your every day. There ain't a day.

No, there ain't a day. But there's some days that are like, you walk past the mirror and you're.

Like, yo, I've had that. Or I had that experience.

Like there was that Fresh Prince episode. He walked past the mirror. Jean Claude Vid. Damn, I look good. So if you ever had that moment.

Like, I had that a lot. Yes.

The drip.

Like, you know that's the drip.

The drip is like saying, that's your sweat. Only you could wear that outfit.

So I say check.

How do I drip.

Check my drip, drip.

I have no idea how drip came to be, like, associated with that, but.

Yeah, does that. Does anyone? I still don't. I still don't quite get no Cap.

Don't question how that is associated with that. Just. If that's the meaning, then you just.

Okay, I'll warp it up his bra.

I get Bruh, bruh, bruh, bruh, bruh. Relax, bruh.

I appreciate Jason Brunson's comment, but since you're here, I would just like you to say it out loud.

I was more of an Internet thing. That's my Internet stalking. I just said Ryan's beard is drip. No cap. Bro.

I think we all learned something tonight.

There you go.

For those of you watching live, thanks for hanging out with us at Wine with Wyan. For those of you not watching live, what are you doing with your life? Special thanks to all of you for coming from all over the world to spend a couple days with me. Marks, thanks for speaking truth and teaching me words.

No problem, bro.

Everybody, thanks for watching Wine with Wyan and letting me invade your thoughts and world for a short time. Proud of all of you for building something that is way bigger than you realize right now, and which really exciting is like, I do this knowing that two years from now, the. The changes that happen in your business and life are bigger than anything that most of you can even imagine right now. And I've just seen it way too many times to. To doubt it.

So I'm just excited for all of you, man. Thanks for hosting this.

I gotta plug you, man. This guy right here knows what he's talking about. I know there's a lot of information online and things you can get into. I've been down that rabbit hole, and I can say consistently that Ryan Moran's content has definitely changed me.

Capitalism Conference. When you start hearing them talk about it, start thinking about how to get yourself there. We're talking about transformative events that will change the way in which you approach your business. And honestly, I'm here. We're talking about things that are just transforming your life. So shout out to you, Ryan, you know you have a heart for the people. Not everybody, which means is doing what you're doing. So keep going, man. For real. I'm serious.

Thanks, bro.

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