Jesse_Elder_2015_Problems_Presence_and_Personal_Power.mp3
11 Dec 2025 · 45 min
Jesse Elder, a coach and creator, explains why he's leaving Facebook to focus on his podcast, newsletter, and coaching. He argues that clarity comes from action and measurement, not planning, and that presence and feeling matter as much as external metrics. His core rule: remove the middling commitments that drain your energy.
Questions this episode answers
Planned exit on January 1 (stated in the recording).
About 459 days since the very first Mindvitamin video (by the planned exit date).
The Jesse Elder Show (a podcast on iTunes) and a developing newsletter/higher-touch coaching.
Around January 8, 2015 (metadata/title).
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Fastlaners. This is Ryan Daniel Moran with Freedom Fastlane. Welcome to 2015. Last year we did some really fun things together as a community. We've even soared to the top of the business category in itunes, and we've had some really incredible guests and shared some incredible investment and business strategies. But of all the cool things we did, I've gotten some of the best feedback from an interview we did early last year with Jesse Elda. Now, Jesse has had an incredible year. He has. His career has just absolutely taken off. We like to say it's because he was on Freedom Fastlane, but it's really because his message has resonated so strongly with so many people. It's also adjusted a lot in the last year. So I asked him to come back on the show and share part two of Jesse Elder with the Freedom Fastlane community because this has been one of our most popular guests in Freedom Fast Lane's history. My favorite part of this interview is towards the end when he talks about the nature and the definition of problems. I hope it has as big an impact on you as it did on me, especially with the stage of life that I'm in, with some recent changes and some big news that I'll be sharing more about that'll be happening throughout the year. So enjoy part two of Jesse Elder.
Hey, everybody, this is Ryan Daniel Moran with Freedom Fast Lane, and I hope you have your seatbelt on and are ready for what we call a braingasm, because who I have on today has been on the show before and is probably responsible for more braingasms from Freedom Fast Lane and more braingasms in my life every time I talk to him. We're back with one of our most popular guests ever, Jesse Elder. Jesse, thanks for coming back to the show.
What's up, Ryan? So good to hear your voice again and back for round two.
It is so good to have you back. You've been one of the most popular episodes ever on Freedom Fast Lane and I want to congratulate you on a recent graduation, retirement, we might call it. You've decided to retire from Facebook and level up your life. Is my describing that adequately better than most? Ryan, tell us your reason for doing that.
It's been really interesting since at the time of this recording. I put that post out about a week ago and the responses are really, really interesting. Everything from people saying, I've never figured you for a quitter, to we're going to miss you, to, okay, what's next and how can we get in on it? So it's been really interesting seeing how it worked. And you know what? It really just came as a result of. Of. I mean, I'm a product of the product, so to speak. One of the biggest things. And you and I have had tons of conversation about the power of meditation. Not as a way just of rejuvenating and feeling more relaxed, but to really meditate for power and to meditate for clarity and to meditate for answers and creativity. And so I've been doing that for a long time and it just kept coming up for me that, that I've just had this feeling like my time on Facebook is done. I did the math and at the time of this recording, by the time this goes out, we probably won't even be on Facebook anymore. January 1st, it's over. At that time, it'll be 459 days since the very first Mindvitamin video went out.
I don't know how many thousands of private messages and just stories and there's so many things that have been built off of that, which I'm just a little bit blown away by and also just so appreciative of. But I realized that at some point it's sabotaging my ability to really serve at a higher level. And so that's the direction that I'm going.
The reason that I ask this is because so many entrepreneurs will, and so many individuals will go through their lives and hit a certain level. And when they hit that certain level, there's this frustration that sometimes happens because we're not growing anymore because we're doing the same things that got us to that level. And you built up most of your leads, if not all of your leads, through referral and through Facebook, through people just finding your posts, finding the videos that you put out there, and even your. Some of your highest paying clients and students have come as a result of those. But you saw a different level and you realized that you needed to make some sort of a change in order to get to that next level. So would you. You work with a ton of entrepreneurs. You work with some very high level entrepreneurs. Would you talk about that process for a second of people needing to make a change in order to create a new experience that is greater than the one that they've. They've been having.
Awesome. Yes, absolutely. There. Just for a little bit of context, when that first video, almost a year and a half ago, it was a pure, just labor of love. It was something that I had no intention of monetizing. I had no concept of building a product or anything. It just. My business was rocking. It was really, really fulfilling. And just to work with people who are moving at a thousand miles an hour, they can make a 1 degree shift and a week later see massive difference. And that' that's where my sweet spot was. That's who I love working with. The Facebook thing was really never designed to be a business. As an entrepreneur, I wasn't closed to the idea, but that really wasn't what it was there for. As I began to see more and more people coming into this sphere of influence and more and more people commenting on the videos, and I just wanted to help more. I just wanted to get out there. And then.
What ended up happening is I realized that at some point.
Number one, you can only help people to the degree that they're really willing and able to help themselves.
And I began to look at the effect of so many videos and posts and I started to just look at what was happening with people. I started to look at people who were commenting on the video and then would send a message and have a question and I would answer it and then they would kind of disappear and they'd come back months later, comment on another video and ask the same question.
And I would ask them. I said, well, tell me what's happened since last time we spoke. And Ryan, it was the most interesting phenomenon.
Virtually no progress, lots of motivation, lots of appreciation.
But no action.
Sounds common in our little circle.
Very, very. And yet I just began to contrast that with what was happening between people who are casual observers on Facebook and people who are coming to our coaching group here in Austin, or people that I just had the privilege of working with one on one. And the real difference was a level of commitment. I mean, change is not hard. It's not, you know, getting results isn't difficult. It's living in pain and living below your potential that hurts. So taking action is actually very easy, but you have to make a commitment. And I just realized that there is an awful lot of people on Facebook who I completely appreciate for acknowledging the message and sharing all of their wins. I just realized that there's so much more that's possible if we can just kind of. It sounds almost corny, but if we can just work together a little bit more. Not for me as a coach, but just if there's another way that we can have a deeper dialogue, a deeper conversation that transcends likes and comments and shares. And I just realized that I can't serve both audiences to the fullest extent. And that's just really Important to me.
So I know you have a plan for taking your message and your audience to the next level. Congratulations on the release of the Jesse Elder show, which is a podcast on itunes, which I would highly recommend you search for and subscribe to. So you came up with a strategy that allowed you to take your message to the next level and serve more people. And that is an uncomfortable change for a lot of people who got to a certain level doing certain actions and activities. So what, how do you craft that plan? And you're retiring from Facebook. You're moving into a podcast and developing a newsletter. How do you work with entrepreneurs to get them to move away from the strategies that have gotten them to a certain level and help them create a strategy for leveling up?
Awesome, dude. Perfect question. And here's like, I literally just got chills when you asked that. Here's what comes up. Most of us as ethical opportunists, most of us as entrepreneurs, will look for an opportunity, be motivated by the opportunity, and then move heaven and earth to maximize the opportunity, right? You find a niche, you're like, wow, I can make money in this niche. I can help a bunch of people. Let's go. And we mobilize all our resources and we jump in headfirst and we go for it. Well, there is a certain amount of uncertainty and a certain amount of fear that comes with that externally motivated approach. And I say externally motivated because it is about the niche, it's about the money, it's about the ambition and all of that. But there's another way of moving forward in a much more energized and powerful manner. And that's if we're completely dialed in to purpose, if we're clear on our purpose and we're clear on why we're doing the things that we're doing. And I mean, just to. Just to elevate the conversation all the way, why are we here? Like, not you and I on this podcast or people listening, but why are we on this planet? And that's a unique answer for every one of us. There's not one reason for being born. There's like 7.2 billion reasons, and everybody's got one. So, as a matter of fact, if somebody says they know your purpose for being here, take your wallet and run.
Amen to that.
So this idea of being intrinsically motivated, internally pulled by your purpose, it makes all the problem solving practically irrelevant. There's no more niche hunting. There's no more searching for what the right opportunity is. You cannot resist it. That purpose pulls you so strongly that you can't not do it. I mean, wild horses couldn't drag you away from the expression of your purpose.
In terms of this personal realization that I had about Facebook, it was very, very clean. It happened over a two day period. I was meditating.
There's four phases to the meditation, and in the last phase of just receiving and allowing, boom. This idea comes in and the idea is just leave Facebook. I thought, well, that's really odd because considering that I've made hundreds of friends and I've had so many amazing people that I've met and people that I've been able to contribute to and people that have certainly helped me, why the heck would I leave Facebook? That's weird. But I trusted the. The process and I just continue to stay open to it. A couple of days later, it's just absolutely clear to me that this experience is done, the experiment is over, and it's time to move on to a bigger arena. Ryan Once I got that clarity and once I felt that completely consistently throughout my body, in my thoughts, it was like zero fear, zero hesitancy. And then I just really felt a deep responsibility to the people that were on Facebook and the people that were following to make sure that they had every opportunity to come along if they chose to do so. So, FBexodus.
So we've talked about your leveling up process and your next level here. And one of the things that keeps coming up when you talk about this for both yourself and for people that you're coaching is that resonation with purpose and the clarity and the power of clarity. Because for you, when you're really clear on your. On where you're going next, it's maybe easy isn't the right word, but it's clear that you need to cut off certain activities and to move in a different direction. And new strategies will get you to that level. But so many people struggle with getting that clarity, and that is where a lot of suffering comes in, is I know I want to change. I know I'm not happy with the results I've been getting. I don't have enough clarity in order to move toward something. When someone comes to you with that experience of, man, if I just was clear about what I wanted or where I'm going, I could come up with all kinds of strategies to get there. But I just don't feel clear. How do you coach someone like that?
That's awesome, man.
I'm going to just give you a compliment here. Since the last interview that we did which is about a year ago to now. I've just seen you grow so much, and your skills as an interviewer are awesome. I love your questions, man.
Well, thank you. I have very high testosterone.
That's what it is. That's what it is. So in terms of coaching clarity, clarity is synonymous with several other terms. Clarity is also synonymous with certainty.
We want a sense of clarity, but what we really want is a sense of certainty. We just want to know what to do. We want to know which direction to go. We want to know what to say or who to say it to. We want to know what to sell. We want to know what platform to sell it on. Well, the key in all of that is knowing. We just want to know, and we want to feel certain about what we're going to know. So to have total clarity prior to taking action is almost ridiculous. Clarity comes as a result of constantly paying attention and calibrating.
Learning on the fly, noticing what worked, noticing what didn't work, doing more of the stuff that felt right and produced a great result, and doing less of the shit that didn't. But those are things that can only be done in motion. And so.
I'm sorry to interrupt. Jesse, I'm having a hard time paying attention to what you're saying now because I'm still stuck on this idea that you just brought up, because I just had my first braingasm of the call, which was when you said, and I want to make sure I understood this right, that it is hard to have clarity before taking action. This goes against all of my rational thinking about taking action. And on our last call, you famously said that taking action is how you enjoy the process of fulfilling your plans and. And. And rolling out your dreams, which was a bit of a brain gasm. And now you're telling me that it's difficult to have clarity before taking action. I've never heard this before, and I just want to honor that statement because it was very odd. I mean, you just tweaked my brain. So now I want you to clarify this.
Cool.
Cool.
Well, let's dive into it. The concept having total clarity prior to taking action, the reason it's a virtual impossibility is because every action that you're going to take comes after another action. So your clarity is actually your thinking, comparing the future action that you're about to take with the past action that you've already taken.
So clarity is not something that we're going to have prior to taking the new action. Clarity for most of us is memory. It's remembering what we did before.
And then basing our future action or our next action on either the pain or the pleasure of that past experience. So this is how it's easy to get locked into doing the same thing over and over and over, even when it's not getting the result that you want. At least it's familiar. At least it's comfortable. At least there's a degree of certainty there. So if we want to experience exponential growth, and if we want to experience unilateral growth, that is not only growth in our finances or only in our health or only in our spirituality or only in our relationships, if we want to experience growth on all fronts simultaneously so that every area of life feeds every other area, and that's entirely possible, it's actually a lot easier and a lot more fun. If that's what we really want, then there's no way in hell that we can sit and plan out all of that stuff perfectly so that we are then taking the exact action in all of those areas simultaneously. It is very much a process of, let's do something that seems right in the moment, given the information that I've got, given who I know myself to be, given where it is that I want to go. Let me just do something different. Let me just take some action. But you know what? I'm not going to wait until the end of the month to measure back and see if it worked. I am going to sit down at lunch after blasting through the morning of productivity, and I'm going to do a quick little check in, like, what worked? What was great about this morning? What were the wins? What do I appreciate about the experiences that I had and how can I make them better before dinner?
I mean, this is something I learned from Dan Sullivan with a strategic coach. But Pearson's Law. Pearson's Law says that which is measured improves, and that which is measured exponentially. Or, excuse me, that which is measured and recorded improves exponentially. See how excited I am about Pearson's Law? I'm even screwing up that explanation of it. So if we measure our results in order to gain more clarity, in order to gain more discernment, if we do that once a week or once a month, then we're giving ourselves four times a month or one time a month to calibrate. But if we just make it a part of our consciousness, which is very, very easy to do, if we just measure backwards and we just say, what was great about this morning? Like, what did I learn? How did I win? What did I accomplish? What did I see other people accomplish, and how can I make that better? It's almost like you're just carrying your own batteries with you. Your vision comes with batteries included. And there's no longer the need for all these external giant goals to then justify our enthusiasm.
So, Jesse, so many of us paralyzed by this need for clarity before we take action. And what I'm hearing you say is to take some action and then measure the result that comes from that action. And by doing so, you will gain clarity. But clarity is not something that you just download or it's not something that that just comes automatically. It comes by continually refining and comparing your experiences to what it is that you want to experience and adjusting as necessary. Am I understanding you correctly?
Yeah, I think you just put it really, really good, Ryan. And I'll add one more piece to that on clarity is that entrepreneurs, by definition, have more ability to experience true clarity than anyone else on the planet. And the reason I'm saying that is because clarity is an internally generated phenomenon. Clarity is different than marching orders. Clarity is different than following someone's instructions. Who's in charge of you. And if we learn that in school, if you learn in school that you need to keep your head down, you need to do your work, you need to only do what you're told. And if you do something that you weren't told to do, you're going to get in trouble. That's not a tremendous breeding ground for paying attention to what's going on inside. That's not a tremendous breeding ground for paying attention to the value of one's own thoughts. And yet that's what clarity is. Clarity is the experience of one's own inner knowing. And that means that we have to make the inner messages that we're feeling, the inner thoughts that we're our own thoughts that we're experiencing the most important thing in the world, because everything else is coming from the outside. And we can make decisions about the input that we receive. We can make decisions about the stimulus, but ultimately it's an inside job. So entrepreneurs have more ability to experience true clarity, true inner knowing, than anybody else on the planet.
And it is a superpower in our society. We spend a tremendous amount of energy analyzing things based on the result that it gave us in measurable terms. For example, one of the most, I think the most annoying questions in the world is when people said, did that work? Or when there's a product or service and they say, does that work? Which what they're really asking is, does that produce the result that it is that I desire. And something that is so freeing about what you're saying is measuring progress and measuring things not based on the data that it gives us, but instead on how we feel during the process. And that is a complete new way of measuring if something works or measuring the benefit of an experience, measuring how I feel rather than measuring whatever external progress it is that we want. And I thought of this when you were describing in school, keep your head down and work. That's. That's what we're taught to do. Put your head down and produce the result that we're all expected to produce and completely ignore how you feel about it. We'll leave religion out of this conversation. But you know, and I've publicly said I went to school to be a pastor, I decided not to be a pastor because of certain contradictions that I felt were happening in the church that I was a part of. That was the expectation. The expectation was, it doesn't matter how you feel about it. This is what is true. Go produce the result. That is true. That's a church experience. But that's true in school, that's true in business. It doesn't matter what this does to your customers. It doesn't matter what this does to your marriage or to your personal life. What matters is, does this activity produce the measurable result that you want. Ignore how we feel. There's something very freeing about what you're saying about measuring it according to how we feel rather than the external result that we want. Because that's what we're after, how we're going to feel.
Amen. That's exactly it. Everything that we do is because we think we'll feel better in the doing of it. And making somebody else's opinion or making somebody else's feelings more important than our own feelings is a recipe for disaster. It's the basis of communism, actually. So when we learn that that teacher has perhaps our best interest in mind, and yet we're taking a standardized test that has nothing to do with our unique genius, our unique ability, our inner gifts. Yeah. Then it's crippling to the human spirit. And as far as religion goes, I mean, religion is an incredible gift to lots and lots and lots of people around the world. And if it's working for them, that's awesome. Like, they should just continue to do it if it's continuing to add value to their life. And the one thing that just is always interesting to me is how many people feel like they need a translator for God. Like God's not speaking Their language. So they need to go to somebody else who's learned to talk to God better than them, when really the only experience of God that I give a shit about is my experience of God. And I don't need anybody else on this planet to tell me what my experience should be.
Well, I love this freedom around comparing how we feel rather than the external result that we get. We're so programmed for the opposite. We've been programmed since we were born to analyze an experience based on the data rather than how we feel about that. So do you have a process that.
Those of us who this is new to can start to practice in order just to experiment with this philosophy? I've heard you speak from stage about the idea of just paying attention to how we feel and making decisions on how we feel rather than what we think about. And there's a lot of freedom around that. So would you just walk us through how we could start practicing, practicing that as a concept, just as an experiment to see if we benefit from that approach?
Yeah, yeah, great. Great framework. And it is an experiment. And you take. You do the experiment and you judge by results.
I'll tell you a quick story. When I was coming up through the fight world and before I opened my first martial arts school and.
I was.
A bachelor, I was fighting all the time, competing, training, and I lived with all these other guys who were kind of in the same boat. So imagine you've got four single guys who really. All they care about is training and fighting. You can imagine that the. Let's just say that the feng shui of the place was not exactly uplifting. It was kind of a dump.
And I remember opening the refrigerator one time and looking in the refrigerator and just thinking, you know what?
I.
There's nothing in this refrigerator that I feel completely attracted to. Like, there's nothing in this refrigerator that looks appealing to me. And then I thought, well, if that's the case, we should just get rid of it and go get some new food. And then I started looking at all the expiration dates, and it wasn't quite bad enough to throw away, yet there was nothing in the refrigerator that was bad enough to throw away. And yet there was nothing in there that was really worth eating either. And I share that example because this is how many of us allow things into our life, and our life becomes a collection of experiences and possessions and commitments and obligations, even relationships, which are not bad enough to get rid of, but not really great enough to fully enjoy.
You've well defined the problem, my friend. I Can resonate with this loudly. I'm waiting for you to give me the solution.
Yes. So here's the solution. Get rid of the middle. Get rid of the gray areas. Get rid of the threes and fours and fives and sixes and sevens and eights only allow.
Or nines and tens, you say, well, that doesn't sound too appealing. If I've got ones or twos in my life. Like, if I've got things that I'm really totally unhappy with. Well, that's actually an incredible gift to give yourself when you wake up to the fact that something is actually a one in your life. Because then what do you do?
Then, you know, you can cut it out. Yes, it's easy. Then you change it.
You eliminate it. Somebody gets on the scale, and they've been avoiding getting on the scale for months. And in their mind, they think, you know, I could probably stand and lose five pounds. And then they get on the scale and they go, Holy shit, I'm 40 pounds overweight. How did that happen? If they're honest with themselves and they take responsibility for the fact that that's a result of choices that they've made, then they could say, either I'm cool with that, or this is unacceptable. And they can either just say, you know what? I love myself the way that I am. I love being big. I love being fluffy. I love being all these other words that people use to justify being out of shape. And that doesn't mean they're any less worthy as a human being. I mean, every human being has unique value. But you either have to decide, this is totally acceptable and I love this about myself, or this is bullshit. I'm not going to allow this to happen, and I'm going to take a stand and I'm going to start doing things so that I can get to where I really want to be. That is a one. That's a one moment when you have that realization that this is unacceptable. And then, of course, there's those things in life that are just absolutely brilliant and blissful and beautiful, and we're just like, ah, this is awesome. I love this person. I love this gig. I love this job. Oh, I love this song. Oh, man, I love this restaurant, man, I love hanging out with these people. Well, welcome to the world of nines and tens. So if anything is not.
A 1.
Or a 9, a 0 or a 10, why have it in your life?
Jesse, part of me so resonates with the philosophy of what you're saying, and there's also the practical side of me that says, okay, I experience tens a few times a year, and they're pretty awesome. They're usually around a campfire with a glass of wine with some of my best friends.
Yeah.
Or when the Indians are good. So once every decade. So there's this sense of, I experience these tens once in a while. It's impractical for me to build a life around my tension because there's really not that many of them. How would you respond to that?
Well, awesome question. First of all, I would say that anything in your life can change according to either your perception or your procedure.
Here's an experiment that anybody can do. Next time you're going to go and let's say you're going to eat a piece of fruit. Let's assume you like fruit. Just start with that premise that you like fruit, you think oranges are good, or you like bananas or dates or whatever. So let's use a date for an example. And you go, and you've got this date in your hand, and instead of doing what you might normally do, which is just pop it in your mouth and chew while you're texting or watching TV or doing whatever else, just stop for a moment, and you're going to dedicate a few seconds to this experience. You take the date and you just kind of look at it in your hand, and you just kind of turn around and you just notice all the detail of that date, and you begin to wonder about the journey of this date. And you begin to think about all the people who had a job in bringing that date to your hand, the people who brought it to the store, and then before that, the people who put it on the ship, and before that, the people who harvested it, and before that, the people who planted the tree, and the entrepreneur and the farmer who took a risk to plant the tree in the first place. And you just think about the journey that this date has been on. Then you can even let your mind go to this miracle of natural law where the fruit just sprang forth, because that's just what trees do. They just produce fruit. And then you're looking at it from that place of perception. And then you put it in your mouth, but you don't start chewing. You just feel the weight, the date, and you just kind of feel it rolling around in your tongue, and you kind of feel the texture and the pressure of it against your teeth. And then little by little, you start chewing, and you begin to feel the texture, and you feel the consistency of the date as it gives way under your teeth. And you start to chew and really sink your teeth into that date. And you experience the sweetness of it, and you experience the texture and that kind of fine, granular feeling as the date begins to break apart in your mouth, and you begin to feel your tongue and teeth and chewing working together. And you begin to really, really taste it. But you don't finish it. You just continue just holding it, and you just continue tasting it and continue to experience the feeling of taste. And you begin to even appreciate the fact that you have taste buds to continue tasting this date. And then after holding it in your mouth for a few seconds, you just little by little, you begin to ingest that fruit. And you begin to. That fruit becomes a part of your body, and it becomes part of you. And then you sit there for a couple of seconds after ingesting this date, and you just imagine the energy that that food is bringing you, the calories that it's bringing you, and the energy that that date is going to become and the things that you'll then continue to be able to do with your body and the building blocks that those molecules are going to become in your body. And after two minutes, you'll realize that was the best fucking piece of fruit you've ever eaten.
I'd like to share a story with you, if I may briefly, that I heard once that I thought of while you were sharing that story. And it's a man running in the jungle. And he's running because a lion is chasing him, and he's running for his life. And right when he thinks he's about to get away, another lion shows up in front of him. And the two start to come at him from both sides. So he turns right and there's another lion. He turns to his left and there's a pack of lions. And he's surrounded by lions, and there is nowhere to go. And he looks all around him and he's trying to find a plan of escape. And he looks up and he sees a vine. And he jumps up at the vine and he's pulling up, he's climbing up like you'd climb up a rope in gym class in middle school. And he's climbing for all his life, and the lions are jumping at his legs. And he continues climbing up. And then he looks up and he sees mice coming down out of the tree, starting to gnaw at the top of the vine. And he's holding onto the vine and he's climbing up, but the. There's more mice coming in there, gnawing at the Top of it. And the lions are hungry and they're jumping at him, and he's. He's looking for an escape. And he looks. He looks up and he sees it. A bright red strawberry. And he reaches out and he grabs the strawberry and he takes a bite of the strawberry. And he feels the sweetness in his mouth, and he feels the juices in his mouth. And he. He looks at the sweetness and he appreciates all that the fruit brings him. And he imagine it's turning into energy. And for that moment, he's free.
And that's the end of the story. I thought of that when you were describing the date. Both for obvious reasons and also just because. Both of those stories, both of those analogies, bring up the fact that we are in control of our experience because of what we focus on and because of the meaning that what we're focusing on brings to our lives and what we allow it to mean. Now, Jesse, you and I have talked about this personally at length. And I even said to you before the call, sometimes I wake up and it's really easy for me to make empowering meanings out of what's going on in my life. It feels natural. It feels easy. And there are times where I feel like the world is beating me up. And no matter how much I conceptually understand.
That I'm in control of my experience by what I focus on, it feels harder to put that into a practice and to feel what it is that I want to feel on those times and those moments where it is just hard as hell to control your own experience. And things that are subconscious are working much harder than my conscious mind. How do I approach that in an empowering way?
One degree at a time.
Here's what I mean by that.
To go back for a moment to the man on the vine with the lions under him and the mice gnawing the vine. And he finds this moment of bliss, this moment of distraction, this moment of escape.
If I were to. To project the way that that story ends. It has a lot to do with what each of us can do when we find ourselves overwhelmed with mental lions that are about to eat us, with mice that are chewing through our proverbial vine that we're hanging our life on.
If I were to finish the rest of that story or project the rest of that story, when that man distracted himself from the terror and the fear of what was going to happen, and he instead found something else that in that moment was an escape, in that moment was just a little piece of sanctuary.
Something very interesting happens when Our brains become distracted from fear. When we become distracted from that which is completely weighing on us, we start to see things around us and we start to see resources and we start to see possibilities.
And possible solutions that we couldn't see when we were locked in a place of fear. So to finish the story with the man on the vine, I would say that the moment he reached out and found the strawberry, he also noticed that there was a handhold not too far from the strawberry. And he transitions laterally like a world champion rock climber, driven by fear and adrenaline and powered by strawberry.
And he grabs that handhold and he clambers up the side of the mountain and he gets up to the top where all his buddies are, he turns around and takes a picture and takes a selfie and posted to Facebook, goes, holy shit. Lions, mice, I love strawberries.
It's in the moment of distracting ourself from that which is terrifying, fearful, overwhelming. There's power in defocusing from those things. Now the world will say, nope, solve the problem. Get rid of the problem. That way you won't have the feeling. Bullshit. The better you get at solving problems, the more problems you'll find to solve.
Somebody asked me when I was going through this whole Facebook growth period, and they said, man, you know, don't you? You see a lot of people that are copying your content in many cases. I remember one time I made a post on authenticity and I had somebody copy it word for word, just copied it and pasted onto their wall and didn't, didn't tag me, which is totally fine, whatever you want to do. But somebody notified me and said, hey, did you know so and so is stealing your post. And I just read it and I just laughed out loud because the irony was just amazing. The irony of stealing somebody else's post about authenticity. And so I messaged him and said, hey, dude, just a heads up, I'm sure you had the best of intentions, but you're actually doing yourself a disservice by swiping somebody else's stuff. Come up with your own stuff or study with somebody until you really know how to craft good shit. He was super cool, very honorable, got busted, whatever, but it sparked a conversation and people started asking me, jesse, what do you think about all those people that are swiping your stuff? And I said, 99% of the time, I don't.
I don't think about it. I hear this frequently. Jesse, what do you think about the Middle East? I don't.
What do you think about the riots? I Don't.
Because to do so from a place of inaction.
Is a sacrifice of my power and my ability to help people. The people who I am in this world to help are scheduled for a call. They're coming to a webinar. They're coming to a live event. They're receiving the benefit of money that I was able to donate. I feel zero compulsion to get involved in something that's happening on the other side of the world that doesn't involve me. Now, if I find myself in the middle of a riot, I'm happy to have some skills that may come in handy. That's a long chain of events, a lot of choices that would have to lead to me being in that environment. So for those people that find themselves in that environment, that is the natural result of a long series of choices. And the more sensitive you become to this, the more you realize that every moment you're leaning in one direction or the other, you're leaning in the moment toward the direction of well being, or you're leaning toward the direction of resistance and fighting that natural flow of well being through being negative, AKA realistic.
And so when we're in that middle of overwhelm and we feel like the world's closing in on us and the lions are at our feet and the mice are above us chewing the vine through, just stop. Because there's strawberries all around you stop for a moment. You can take 10 seconds and just opt out and notice what you're doing.
And then you can say, is this valuable?
What you said about.
The more that we focus on our problems, the more problems we will find to focus on. I feel like I need a cigarette after that comment.
I'm sitting here. I actually have my head in my hands. Wow. I think my head hurts from the massive braingasm I just had from that idea. You know, I gave someone a piece of advice once. They said this was one of my. One of my entrepreneur students inside of the tribe. And he said, I am just beating my head against the wall trying to figure out what product I want to sell. And I am just. I'm trying and I'm trying and I'm trying. And I said, he says, what do I do? And I said, well, first stop, because the brain can't be creative in a tensed state.
Beautiful.
And just based on some things that are going into my life, it's nice to be reminded of my own advice.
I love that.
So thank you for that. Braingasm.
Well, we're gonna. We're gonna have multi braingasms.
Today. Well, Jesse, there's lots of braingasms going on on your podcast. Maybe we should call it the Jesse Elder show of Braingasms.
The Jesse Elder Braingasmic Experience or something. Well, we'll massage that one.
Let's do that. Make sure that massage has a happy ending. And does your. Would that make your thinking cap a mental condom?
Mrs. Gibbs is getting weird.
Only for the fine folks at Freedom Fast Lane.
Oh, boy. Well, thank you. Thank you for that outro.
You could. You can find more braingasms in itunes under the Jesse Elder Show. Just search for Jesse Elder, click on podcast, hit subscribe, and you'll have a daily supply of braingasms. If you haven't heard Jesse's first interview here on Freedom Fastlane, make sure you go into itunes and search for that as well. Jesse, thanks so much for hanging out with us again here at Freedom Fast Lane.
Ryan, always a pleasure, man. Appreciate you so much. Thank you.
I very much enjoyed recording that interview with Jesse Elder from a personal standpoint and also knowing that it would serve the Freedom Fast Lane community. So thank you for listening to today's episode with Jesse Elder. Make sure you check out his podcast on itunes. And we're going to be making some pretty cool changes here at Freedom Fastlane this year, including some events and our first course in years, which will be really exciting. We'll have more details for you in about a month or so. So thanks for listening to Freedom Fastlane. I'll see you on the next show.


