EP #19 Ask Peter Anything Part 1: Our Future in Space, Successful Mindsets, and Exponential Technologies

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Yeah, Peter is. Everybody, if you guys don't know, that's Peter d'. Avandez. Obviously kidding. But I hope everybody's doing well. I wanted to start this off by introducing myself. My name is Nick. It's lovely to meet you. Yes, I'm Peter's podcast producer. But around me and to my side and in front of me stands a team that worked incredibly hard to put together a show that felt like we could evangelize. Peter's mission, which is to uplift humanity through a podcast. And every single heart and soul on this call helped us have that podcast ranked top 10 in the US in our first week. So my hat's off to you, sincerely. Thank you all. Your support has meant the world to us and it's confirmed our efforts and it's just continued to help usher this mission forward and put Peter in front of more people, which I think we need in an ever growing loud world.

Let me just take a second and also throw in my appreciation and thanks, everybody. Thank you for helping me launch this podcast and it is extremely meaningful for me. I think we're living during the most extraordinary time ever. And my job is to counter all the dystopian negative news out there and help entrepreneurs see the potential they have to make the world a better place to find problems and fix problems, which is why the world has the potential. It does. And this podcast, Moonshots and Mindsets, is all about helping people to inspire them, to take their moonshots, to shape their mindsets. And I've said this before. Let me just take a second to say it again. Your mindset is the most important thing you have. If you think the world is going to hell in a hand basket, then that's the way you're going to see things. If you see the world as filled with opportunities and the ability to solve problems and transform the planet, then that's what you spend your time doing. Your mindset's more important, the technology you have more important than the capital you have. It's what distinguishes the greatest leaders on the planet. So with that, thank you and excited to have this conversation with you.

Thanks, Peter. Peter, let's kick it off and let's just get warm here. I know you're in Santa Monica. Why don't you tell everybody how you're incredibly typical. Crazy day was how that's happening. Please enter your questions into the chat, and we'll give Nana some time to pick someone.

You know, the one thing that we all have in common is 24 hours in a day, you know, and 365 days in a year. And that time is. Can get filled up very quickly. And my biggest challenge is saying no. So my days typically start way before 6am and they go till 9pm and today was no exception. Let's get going with the first question.

All right, let's do it.

Donna, please feel free to find a question in the audience and pull them up.

First up, we have Adrian Juarez. So, Adrian, if you could please unmute yourself, that'd be great.

Yes. Hi. Hi, Peter. Hi, everyone. Yeah, so my question was, out of all the problems that you are stuck in your podcast, which one do you think is the most important one or urgent to solve? That means, like, the one that will have the most impact on the most amount of people, or maybe because it's the most neglected problem. Diane, first of all, thank you for joining. Thank you for the question. And I think it's really hard to point at any single problem. And I think everybody, everybody knows this. All of the problems are interrelated, too. If you make. If you focus on education, for example, uplifting humanity, making education available across the globe at the highest level possible, then you get a more educated populace who's able to then turn around and solve problems where they live. All of these things are dominoes that tip each other. If you focus on health and you make people healthier around the world, then their productivity increases. The amount of time that they've been spending not being able to be productive because they're not healthy gets reduced, and therefore they're able to contribute more. If you give access to more energy to people around the world, then they're able to be more productive. All of these things are interrelated. It's ultimately about how do you help people spend more time doing things that make the world a better place. And. But you can attack it from many different, many different areas. I think the central point is, is people's belief in themselves to solve problems, uplifting that mindset element is very important. And then empowering them to do these things. You know, I've personally spent a lot of my time in the health space because I'm excited about it. Of how do you add healthy decades to a person's life? I'm also very passionate about education and reinventing the education space. But I don't think you can point at one particular area and at least I can't make that argument. People make an argument about carbon and about the environment completely get that. But you can attack that from, again, education, from energy, from health, from multiple different ways. So let me leave it at that. It's a valid question I struggle with. My job is ultimately to help incentivize entrepreneurs, lots of entrepreneurs, to attack the grand challenge areas. And that's what we do through xprize. That's we do through this podcast. And hopefully what everyone here is focusing like. Just take aim on one of those challenges and attack it with all your heart and soul. Thank you, Adrian.

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Awesome. Now we have Jeremy.

Thanks very much, Peter. So my question's probably a little bit more tool specific. I was playing with the GTP3 chatbot this morning and I asked it to generate a beat poem about carbon Credits. And it did it in about.

Amazing, isn't it? I love it. Blow away.

It blew me away. I like, I thought you don't get much more random than that.

You get to read it to us.

If you want me to.

The first couple of lines.

One of my colleagues. Yeah, by the way, I'll just read it.

Wrote.

It wrote two whole stanzas. I'll just. I don't know if you can see it.

I can't, but it's very good. Yeah.

It said, carbon credits, a way to save the earth, a way to make a difference, a way to give birth to a new way of living, a way to be green, a way to make a change, a way to be seen. So that's the first stance of GTP3 with the prompt write a beat poem about carbon Credits. It was a bit of a. It was a bit of a homage to Tim Minchin, if any of you know, a great comedian. But so it got me thinking about, you know, these tools. I mean, obviously Google, Microsoft, Apple, you know, are spending billions on training data sets and releasing these tools. But I'm wondering if you can talk a little bit about how people who are starting or trying to build exponential organizations and addressing some of the challenges you talked about. How do you see these kind of tools being deployed to augment our capabilities and how should we think about using them?

Yeah. So let me mention first that Salim Ismail, who is the creator of Exponential Organizations or Open exo, he and I are writing a book called It's Effectively the Exponential Organization's Playbook on How to Create exos. And that will Be coming out.

I can't wait for it. By the way, I've been following you and Salim for a few years. Amazing stuff.

We're working on it. It's like final edits now. Awesome. But so what, what you pull up, what you speak about is really important. It turns out, I think that every single profession, no matter what how you think of yourself, if you're an artist, a writer, a physician, a lawyer, an architect, a designer, every profession is going to have an AI copilot. It's a phrase that Reid Hoffman, the founder of LinkedIn, I was having dinner with him a month ago and he mentioned that I've talked about the idea that it's going to become malpractice to diagnose as a physician without AI in the loop. But the idea of an AI copilot, someone or a technology that is able to support you. I just saw playing with GPT3 and if folks have not been playing with OpenAI's GPT3, you should. I saw a designer who said I'm looking to create a fanciful living room design and so forth and described the intention, the emotion that they wanted. Can you describe what the design of the living room should be like? And give me three options? And GPT3 generated three options and then that particular designer put it into, I think it was stable diffusion and 3 photorealistic living room designs came up. Right. So it's an incredibly creative tool in this case for an interior decorator. Right. But it can be for a landscape designer, it can be for a fashion designer, it can be for someone who's designing, you know, workout programs or dietetic programs, whatever the case might be. So I think all of us are going to have these AI co pilots that are supporting you doing what you do faster and better. I opened up by saying all of us have the same 365 days in the year at 24 hours in the day. And it's how you use your time that distinguishes us. So it used to be, you know, 20 years ago. Yeah, thereabouts that if you needed to look up something for writing a book or a story, you'd go to the library and you'd take 15, 20 minutes to drive there, walk there, take the bus there. You'd hope they have the book. They didn't have the book. You'd have to go find where the book was anyway. It would take hours out of your day to get a particular data point. Today it takes milliseconds on Google. And so these are things the phrase is called Save time. And one of the things that these exponential technologies do is they create save time. So as a professional, you will have your AI copilot provide you save time. So I have this patient with this set of blood level, blood test results and symptoms and so forth. Can you please create a differential diagnosis for me on what it may be, that is save time so that you can actually deliver much better service in such little time. I think what we're going to start to see is around each profession a set of AI tools. And it's still early. I mean, OpenAI, DeepMind, stability, AI scale, AI, all of these are companies that are creating tools. Anyway, Jeremy, that's the way I think about it, if that's useful.

Yeah, that's awesome, Peter, thank you. And yeah, it's very exciting. If I may just very quickly, my son is working for us doing a lot of writing and he's got Asperger's, so sometimes it's a little bit stilted. And I've got him using Jarvis and he's just blown away. He says it's, it's improved his writing out of sight and, and he's able to output probably three times as much in the same amount of time and it's a lot more fun and he's producing great work. So that's, that's just a really simple copilot example for somebody with a little bit of a learning difficulty and he's just loving it.

Perfect. You know, the challenge I have is my 11 year olds who are just doing, you know, homework now. It's like, what's homework going to be like when you know, it's like, yep, you have to swear you're not going to use GPT3. Yeah.

Or I'm sorry, Ms. Jarvis ate my homework.

Anyway, a pleasure.

Thanks, Peter. I'll let, I'll let you talk to others, but thanks so much. That was, that was fantastic.

Appreciate it. Dana, back to you.

Thanks, Jeremy. Now we'll have Simone.

Hi everyone. Hi, Peter. I would have a question about space because I'm very interested in space. So the question is, when do you think we will be able to travel in the solar system as simply as we do now with airplanes on Earth?

Yes.

And how will be life for humans on other planets? Will we live on a basis underground? Underground or will there be an atmosphere artificially?

So Simone, that's a fun question. Thank you for asking it. And I spent the first 20, 30 years of my life passionate about space. Star Trek captured my heart and my soul. I'm more of A Trekkie than I am a Star wars person. Just full disclosure here. If you look at the early days of aviation, there was barnstorming came first. And this was just around 1910 to 1925 30. What happened was the people who had an airplane, these aeronauts as they were called, would, would fly over little town and in an airplane flying over town back then was really, you know, an unusual sight. And the airplane would go land in a field and everyone from the town would go to the field to see this, this airplane and this aeronaut. And the guy, or typically a guy but could be gals as well, would sell for $5 for a day's wager to take you up in a barnstorming. And they would go up and fly around and come back down and land. And typically it was safe. That's the era we're in today. It's barnstorming. So when someone goes up on a Virgin Galactic flight or a Blue Origin flight, or even a SpaceX flight to orbit, you're going up, you're paying a large amount of money, you're having this incredible experience and then you land and back where you took off. And that's the era we're in. And then what occurred next was we went from barnstorming to travel first with airmail and then with point to point travel. Right. Lindbergh in 1927 flies from New York to Paris and opens up the aviation industry. And I think the idea of interplanetary travel. We need the vehicles. There's no question that Starship is the first of those vehicles. Elon's got Starship under development today. And I think we'll see Starship hopefully flying in the next two, three months to orbit. And that vehicle, big rocket. The big rocket, yes. I have, I have Starship right back there in, in silver. I have, I have Saturn 5, the Falcon Heavy and, and Starship models behind me here. Anyway, the point is that vehicle is designed specifically to be able to go and land on the moon and then be able to go and land on Mars. None of the vehicles we have built to date have been designed for that capability. And so it really takes someone with the incredible engineering intelligence and prowess that Elon has and the wealth to be able to pull that off. Now, as to where we're going to live on the moon, I think we're going to be living under the ground in what are called lava tubes. There are these large, from the early formation of the moon when it was molten to some degree, these large caves, if you would, that are sealed. Imagine being able to fill the lava tube with an atmosphere and you weigh one sixth of your weight. Right. If you normally weigh 120 pounds, you weigh 20 pounds on the moon and, and weighing that light with a pair of wings strapped to your arms, you can fly. Which would be like for me, that's what I'm looking forward to on Mars. I think on Mars, where you weigh one third of your weight, it'll be more difficult, but we'll have probably domed cities and you know, the science fiction has done an incredible job. It's. The world changes very rapidly once we're also able to have AI and robotics in space where we can send humanoid robots to the asteroids, to the Martian surface, to the moon and have it prepare that situation for us when we land there. There's a habitat ready, the food is ready, the energy systems are ready, versus having to go and create it ourselves. Anyway, Simone, thank you so much for your question.

Thank you. Thank you very much.

Thank you.

Thanks, Simone. Up next, we have My apologies if I'm butchering your name, but Bo, I think is your name.

Yes, thank you, Peter. Massive fan. I was recently introduced. I wish I was introduced to you earlier, but I'm just, I feel like I'm catching up in the. Welcome aboard, boss. I'm in the middle of reading Lifeforce right now and I'm curious. It might be a bit of a spoiler, but I'm curious what most excited you in 2020 and then a follow up question to that. What are you most eagerly anticipating about 2023?

Wow. So I wrote and published the future is faster than you think in 2020. And then LifeForce came out at the beginning of this year. And I think it's fascinating because every year I'm blown away by the incredible progress that we're making. You know, one of the things I do beau every year at my Abundance 360 summit is I look back 100 years and so in, in, in 2022 I look back to 1922. In 2020 I look back to 1920 and, and I look at, I ask the question like what's, what were the breakthroughs back 100 years ago? And you should do this as an experiment for yourself. When you look back 100 years ago and you search far and wide for the breakthroughs, it's like there weren't any. It was pretty slow, right? So I remember last year when I did that in 1921. It was like Vegemite was invented. It was like the water ski was like boards and clotheslines were invented. I mean, it was that kind of stuff. And you realize it's like the speed was so like molasses and today it's incredibly fast. So, you know, for 2023, I'm excited about a few different things. It really comes down to AI and biotech are the two areas that are moving so incredibly fast. We just heard today about announcement coming out tomorrow around fusion that, that we've finally been able to demonstrate sustained positive production of energy in a fusion reaction. Which is a big deal, right? If we look globally, a country's gdp, a country's prosperity has been a function of its access to energy. And we're going to, you know, fusion energy has always been 50 years away. Well, there are 37 privately funded fusion companies today and they're making breakthroughs. And tomorrow it's going to be a big, a big announcement. So I'm excited about that. Just what's going on in health and reinventing education another. So at a360 this year, I've got some of the top AI experts coming to speak and also Sal Khan coming to speak about education. So it's about the convergence. So super excited about where AI and education is going to go and where AI and health is going to go. Both of those fields are going to transform, you know, just shockingly fast. And those are two giant industries that in my estimation are ripe for disruption. So tracking those and yeah, I mean I'm excited about it all frankly, but those are the areas in particular. Beau, thank you.

Now up next we have Marianne. Peter. Hi, Peter. So thank you for being here. I'm a fan as well. I work as a coach at the Flow Research Collective with Steven.

Oh, fantastic. Steven Kotler is my co author on my last, my first three books, Abundance Bold and Futures Faster.

Yeah, I wanted to ask you about Metaverse or Virtual reality. I would like to know your opinion on if this is for you, if it will be a disruptive technology and if. Yes, like why and which time frames do you believe it's going to be? And if not, like what could be blocking from that happening?

Great, great question. So let me tell you about how I think about the Metaverse. What, what do I think it is and why do I think it's going to be transformative? So when I look at these, these areas, it's basically the convergence of multiple technologies coming in. So the headset technology, right, the VR technology, the AR technology, or they're sometimes called XR in combination, is doing reasonably well and I'm excited to See what Apple's headsets are going to be and what Meta's headsets are going to be like in their next generation. So the headsets are getting better, but there's a lot more to come. But once we have achieved sort of headsets that have sufficiently high resolution and are comfortable and are able to actually see your facial features and be able to represent how you look in the Metaverse. That's the first part. The second part is going to be AI. So I was just with a guy named Imad Mustach and we have recorded a podcast with Imad. He's the CEO of Stability AI. They have a product called Stable Diffusion that has been breaking the Internet. It's like ChatGPT. Stable diffusion has been incredible. And what Stable Diffusion like Dall E does is able to go from a written prompt describing something to a visual image, high resolution visual image. And they have gone. The first time they did, it would take like 30 seconds to generate. Then they got it down to real time to generate in a second and now they've gotten it down to a 30th of a second. What does that mean? It means that products like Stable Diffusion will be able to generate live video. So imagine being able to be in a Metaverse and have an AI creating that metaverse for you on the fly and in photorealism. And so I think we're going to move a lot of education there, a lot of interactive, like, you know, what we're doing right now is amazing two years ago now we've gotten used to it. We've gotten used to this idea of free live, you know, two, two dimensional conversations. What will occur next is we're going to be all together in a virtual room, sitting together, having conversations, walking around and seeing stuff. And then that will become sort of the normal way. So I think about creating much more engaged communities, much more engaged educational experience and experiences in every part of our life. I think Metaverse is going to. The other, the third part about Metaverse, besides the headsets and AI, is going to be blockchain and cryptocurrencies and the ability to exchange value rapidly inside that. And then being able to, like, if you're in the Metaverse and you see a can of Coca Cola that, a digital can of Coke, being able to pick it up and then put it in your wallet. And when you're in the real world, you have basically something that you can exchange for a real Coca Cola and you can move between the real world and the virtual world and there's going to be this blurring of, of the, of the lines. So I think we're going to build new communities in the metaverse, new forms of government. I think that you will. You know, I'm. How do I describe myself? I live in Santa Monica, I'm a Californian, I'm a US citizen. But I may in the future actually feel much more connected to being a citizen in a metaverse where I do my education, I actually earn my income, and there's a whole different set of governance rules. And I'm voting in that metaverse and I'm transacting in that metaverse. And my 11 year olds right now, they live in the Roblox metaverse. That's how they think about it. And the most valuable thing for them isn't dollars, it's Robux. It's the cryptocurrency there. As soon as they get any money, they translated to Robux immediately. So it's coming fast. Yeah. Anyway, hope that helps. Marion. Pleasure. Thank you. Dana.

Hello. Thank you. Now we'll have Maggie.

Hi, Maggie.

Hi. Greetings from Greece, first of all. Hi. Nepali. I'm sorry about the Greek for a second, and I'm going to take it in a second in English as well. I just paid my respects because, you know, it's all about origins. And even though we do not speak about origins as much as we do, it is very moving, especially for a small country as ours, is to be seeing people like you being such an inspiration. So my question is pretty much very small, but also very big. I want to know what you believe the greatest, like what your greatest fear for humanity is. Yeah.

So that's a fascinating question. Right. And it's a fair question to ask. There are two different sides of the equation here. What do I think is the greatest threat not being addressed is one side of the equation? I'll answer that because it's easier for me. And that is, I think, COVID 19 pandemic was, I don't call it a practice pandemic. My heart goes out to those who were injured by it. But I think there could be much worse pandemics. And hopefully we've learned some lessons and hopefully we put some systems in place, be able to provide early warning and to be able to protect ourselves. I'm concerned about asteroid impacts. We are in a solar system filled with rocks that are flying around, and every hundred years ago there's a major asteroid impact. Luckily, a lot of them have been in the tundra of actually the old Soviet Union, which was a large amount of Real estate or in the, in the polls. But a rather small rock landing in the wrong place, like over a metropolitan region can cause huge economic and life damage. So the reason I'm concerned about it is it's an existential threat and it's got such a huge impact and we're not really doing sufficient work to be able to provide an early warning system. So I think about that. That's one of the existential threats that I'm concerned about. The other side still is extremism in the world. And the question becomes, how do we prevent people from being in echo chambers and being in extremist situation and being violent? Obviously, the technologies we're creating are massively empowering to entrepreneurs such as most of you here to make the world a better place to uplift humanity. But they can also be used for negative purposes. And so helping people relate to each other is one of the most important objectives. The analogy I use is each of us is not a single life form. Each of us is actually a collection of 30 or 40 trillion cells working together. Right? That's what makes up your body. Every cell is alive. Every cell is an individual. And we work together as, as, you know, as Maggie, as Peter, whoever it might be. And I don't take a knife and stab my arm because it's me. And so one of the questions is, how do we become more interdependent? How do we become more connected? How do I create a level of empathy with, with you and everybody? And that level of connection leads us to a point where the better you do, the better it is for me. Right? That's the world I think we need to be heading towards, by the way. That's one of the places that the potential for the ultimate level of brain computer interface where I'm connected and you're connected and I understand your feelings and thoughts. And you know, again, it's how do we uplift humanity all at once? So it's isolationism and extremism that is sort of the challenge for me to think about. And part of that comes as well from the dystopian news media cycles where we're constantly bombarded by negative news and disinformation. I'm not saying what the Crisis News Network, CNN, as I call it, or I don't have a good name for Fox. I'm not saying that what they're saying isn't true. What I'm saying is it's all negative all the time. And that's not a balanced view of what's going on in the world. There are so many amazing things going on that they don't penetrate our psyche because we're bombarded by every murderer, every crooked politician all the time. And that's shaping the way we think. Right. Our brains are neural nets, and we train neural nets by showing them example after example after example. And so if you're watching the negative dystopian news, you're training your brain towards fear and scarcity. And so I protect what I see, what I hear, what I read, who I hang out with very carefully, because I want to train it in the right way. Anyway, I hope that that helps.

I wanted to take it a little further to the mindset, honestly, and how we would be able to, like, seriously, collectively, you know, see how a shift in mindset could be possible. But it was an exceptional answer on the existential and the other threats. So thank you.

Yeah, thanks, Maggie. Now we have Michelle.

Hi, Peter, how are you?

Hi, Michelle.

Thank you so much for hosting. This is wonderful.

Of course.

My question for you comes from Lifeforce a little bit. It says there that the length of medical knowledge now is about 73 days. I want to ask you about your thoughts on the future of education. And it's a threefold question. Future of education as it relates to decentralized education, blockchain, and the future of workforce. The kids that are coming out of college now, in terms of remote work, companies have the ability now to hire remote work so inexpensively. So how do you see the competition with the kids that are coming out of college in the US now without much experience with those kids abroad?

Yeah, no, that's a. That's a great question. So first of all, the speed of change is accelerating and without question. And the question is, what are we learning? And I don't think schools are teaching kids correctly anymore. It used to be that you would go and learn a skill or learn a body of knowledge that you would then deploy for the rest of your life. And it used to be that life was actually relatively short. So 100 years ago, you would go to school till you were 20ish, and you would take what you learned and used it for 20 years, and then you were dead at 40 or 50 years old. Now we're in school and we're living 100 years on top of that. And what you learned in school is basically vaporized in terms of its utility. And so what we need to be looking at instead is teaching people how to learn and how to acquire new skills and how to partner with technology. You know, it's. I Say there's a tsunami of change coming and your goal is to surf on top of the tsunami instead of being crushed by it. And if you have a fixed mindset and you've learned what you learned and you're going to use it until you can't, that's just wrong. So how do we teach our kids how to learn on a continuous basis? And one of the things that you can either become an expert in the problem and then use new technologies as they become available to solve the problem, or you can become an expert in the technology, which once it's been overcome by new technology, is no longer valid. So I tell people, listen, find something you are massively passionate about, something you would die for, and then live for it. Right? How do you. And so one of the things I hope for my kids is number, there are three things. Number one, I want them to find their passion. What are they obsessed about? Right now? It's video games. Okay, got it. Great. They're going to live their world and their life in the metaverse. And so I can't deny him that. But what are you absolutely obsessed about? What is your purpose and passion in life? Can you find that more than anything else? Because my passion and purpose for space drove me to learn everything I would learn over the next 30 years way outside of school. I didn't use anything that I learned in school later on. I learned everything because of my passion and having to discover it along the way. The second thing I want them to learn is how to ask great questions. I think one of the most. We're living into a world where you can know anything and you know, chatbots, Google, all of these things are going to make it more and more accessible. We're all going to have some version of Jarvis from Ironman where you can ask a question and so forth. So if, if it's true that what's more important is the quality of the questions you ask, how do we create better question askers? And that's true for kids as well as for CEOs and entrepreneurs. And the third thing is grit is not giving up. And so for me, it has nothing to do with technology, but it's those, those things that are going to allow you to surf on top of the tsunami of change instead of be crushed by it. And yeah, we're, you know, we're post Covid. We're doing two things. We're on shoring manufacturing, we're on shoring the supply chain because we want it accessible right there. We're going to use 3D printers and new technology and all of that. Amazing. And we're offshoring cognitive capacity. Right. So I have members of my team that are around the world and they're on Slack and on Zoom and on email and on Google Docs and I don't know where they are anyway, anytime and nor do I care if they are doing a great job. It's a complete 6Ds, right? Digitized, dematerialized, demonetized, democratized workforce. And it's the new world of work that people are going to be competing in for sure. Anyway, I hope that helps. That's the way I think about it.

Absolutely. Thank you so much.

My pleasure.

Awesome. Thanks Michelle. Now we have CC Wang.

Yeah.

Hello Peter. In such a pleasure that I can ask you the question in person. I'm actually a huge fan. I have read your books and it definitely brought light into my life. Looking at the positive impact that you know, human and society have created in the past 100 years. I think where I'm curious is when we build an exponential organization looking at this hockey stick growth curve that we know exponential technology going to lead exponential change. Now when I'm looking at organization in the same lens and they don't necessarily configure and to unleash human potential to enable exponential growth.

So currently. Right.

Look at our society organization set up in this hierarchy is from a second industrial revolution. It's still in this traditional model. So I think in my mind is my mission statement is how can we build a conscious exponential organization? Go both ways. One way is looking at facility exponential change through technology. Another one is facilitate a condition to unleash human potential. How would that merge together? What would be your advice in that?

Yeah, listen, today you're right cece. Today's organizations are not nimble. They are top down structure and they don't enable sort of the speed. And there is a new kind of organization, right. And this is this idea of an exponential organization and the book that Salima, our writing is all about this. And an exponential organization is a much flatter organization. It's driven by a massive transformative purpose that is the guiding principle and mindset that everybody's aiming towards. It's a culture that is data driven, not opinion driven. It used to be that the expert was the, you know, the, the person whose opinion you listen to. And you know, I define an expert as someone who tells you exactly how can't something cannot be achieved. Right. How it can't be done. And we go away from expertise and we go to experimentation and data driven decision making. So I think the analogy I use is the asteroid impact from 65 million years ago. So when the asteroid hit the Earth back 65 million years ago, it changed the environment so dramatically, so rapidly that organisms that could not rapidly adapt to the new environment went extinct. And that was the slow and lumbering dinosaurs. But the furry mammals that were rapidly able to adapt came out to dominate on the planet. And the asteroid hitting the planet today is this exponential change. It is AI, it is biotech, it is all the exponentials. Quantum computing, which we haven't talked about, which is coming, which is going to make AI look like it's standing still anyway. So there's a lot of change coming. So it's how do you create agility, how do you create a nimbleness? And a lot of the old style companies are not going to be able to adapt and they will go away and there will be new business models. Very famously, about three years ago, when Jeff Bezos was still CEO of Amazon, at a shareholder meeting he made a statement that said, I don't know that Amazon's going to exist in 30 years. I don't know if you remember that, but it was like, huh, Good on him to say that. Because the average life of large scale companies is, is falling rapidly. And Amazon's one of the most innovative companies. And even so, there are going to be new strategies, new approaches that come along out of the blue that reinvent whatever business Amazon's in. So yeah, I'm watching all the time to see. So we're going to see companies that are going to be built on top of AIs, right? Where every employee's got an AI co pilot of some type, where AIs are driving a lot more than the humans are. I don't know, maybe I don't have an answer. It's so funny because when I was talking to Imad Mustach, the CEO of, of Stability AI, I, I said, how far out can you look? Meaning how far out can you predict what's coming? Because people ask me, I, you know, I go to Dubai to give a keynote and they say, Peter, can you talk about the world 50 years from now? My answer is no, I can't. I can barely talk about the world 10 years from now. 50 years is impossible. And so Imod said, I can barely see two years from now. And I think that's what's interesting. We all have to be continuous learners. In the chat I saw someone saying, how Peter, how can you mentor me? And so forth. So that's what this podcast is about. It's about mentorship. It's about bringing the smartest people on the planet and talking about what are their moonshots and how do they see them coming and then how. What are their mindsets? Right. And then, and then the other. You know, the books I've written, by the way, for if you're an entrepreneur, Starting out Bold is a really great how to book for entrepreneurs. The future is faster than you think is a great book that Steven and I wrote, sort of looking at the next decade ahead. And then Abundance360 is where I sort of mentor in group around 400 entrepreneurs and CEOs. Anyway, Sissy, I don't think I gave you a straight answer. I walked around it, but I hope you're okay with that.

No, this is great. Thank you so much. I just wanted to acknowledge with your as inspiration and having me connect to my purpose is building conscious exponential organization that unleash human potential in the world of abundance. That is love and peace and happiness.

So I love that.

I can't wait to be part of the movement because that gets me up every day getting lit up. So thank you so much and thank.

You for saying that. That's exactly why, you know, I and my team are doing what we do.

Yeah.

Thank you so much.

Yeah.

Thank you.

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All right, Peter, I'm going to take over. Why don't I bring one more person up to.

Let's do that.

An awesome question, according to Donna. Donna, I think it was Max.

Yeah, Max.

So I'm passionate about climate change. I'll have a master's in data science this coming May. I wanted to get the bang for my buck. Should work in EVs, carbon capture, fusion energy development banks. What should I do?

So, Max, it's whatever you're most passionate about. It's. There's no right answer. They're all going to be critically important. You're going to do your best work. When you wake up obsessed by the field, right? And they're all connected and they're all moving extraordinarily fast. You know, people say, what should I do? It's like, listen, go and do a dive into all of those who are your heroes in those fields. Who do you see yourself as? What is it that you want to do that wakes you up in the morning? You can make a job out of anything, but there's only a few things that are going to light you up and you know, so you may or may not be successful. I may or may not be successful in what I'm doing, but if I'm doing what I love, then every day is an amazing journey. Every day is a learning opportunity. Even if you don't get to the end, you've learned, you've shared, you've brightened up, you've contributed, and that's all we can ask. So anyway, Max, thank you, Peter.

Thanks for the extra five minutes. I appreciate it.

You're welcome, my friend.

Thanks, Max. Okay, Peter, I'm going to read a few from. From the Typeform, one person asked Satish Kumar Singh asks which is the biggest change you foresee and how we. And they quoted eat in the next three to five years.

The biggest change I see how we eat is we're going to be measuring what's going on in our bodies a lot closer. And you'll have an AI co pilot that is your food meister. If you would saying my recommend, you know, you set your goals. I want more energy, I want to lose weight, I want more muscle, I want whatever your goals are. And then based upon your objectives, maybe based upon your genetics, but definitely based upon your blood chemistry, your AI is going to recommend what you eat. And so it's going to close the loop. Right? Because right now it's open loop. You think you should roughly be doing more plant based food or keto or whatever, but you don't actually know what's going on inside your blood chemistry. You don't actually know what's going to get you to your end goal. So it's closing the loop between sensors and AI that's going to change the way we eat.

Cool. Next question. I love that by the way. Always, always a great use case for AI. What technologies? I want to read the person's name out. Camelio Repetto asked what technologies are directed towards eradicating clinical depression.

Wow. So super important. And the, the challenge has been to date it's only been pharmaceuticals. Now for the right situation and the right person, antidepressants can work wonders. I had a friend of mine who was mildly depressed. I just was meeting with her recently and she was on an antidepressant for three months. And she said it was miraculous for her and she wished she had known. She's off it now. Wish she had known and she would have gone in much sooner. She was a cancer survivor and so make amazing help for her. But what else is coming down the pike? Because we're always. Everyone should be concerned about over medicating. There are strategies in the virtual world being able to be in VR therapy and put yourself in different circumstances that visually and auditorily take you on a journey in a place that is happier, brighter and can can help you. It's sort of like technologically augmented meditation. The other thing that's coming down the pike that's a big deal is the whole world of brain. Computer interface our brain, you know, the 2 kilogram chunk of neurons, 100 billion neurons, 100 trillion synaptic connections is a neurochemical soup and, and depression to a large degree is due to an imbalance in that neurochemical soup. So the question is, if you have the right sensors and effectuators, electrodes in your brain, can you turn the dial? Can you turn the dial to be 5 or 10% happier and do it in a way that is really rebalancing your neurochemistry as to what it should be. There are some people who have set points that are naturally optimistic, naturally brighter, and those that are unfortunately naturally more depressed. And can we use BCI to transform that, not in an addictive fashion, but in a rebalancing fashion? For me, those are the two areas I'll mention that we're also going to have a brand new generation of meds coming that are going to come from AI discovery and quantum compute, quantum chemistry that might be made specifically for you, but that's a little bit further out.

Fantastic answer. And this next one, it's. I'm going to put a spin on it so everybody can walk away with some 2023 value here. What is on your mind and what are your goals going into 2023? How do you set goals, how do you think about the new year, etc.

My goals for 2023, it's really to build this community. I want to build this community and empower you through what I've learned and inspire you. Right. My massive transformative purpose and what I think is so important for all of us to have is an mtp. My massive transformative purpose is to inspire and guide entrepreneurs to create a hopeful, compelling and abundant future for humanity. So how do I inspire you? How do I guide you? And the inspiration and the guidance is through the things that we're doing here. And ultimately it's giving you the tools. Right? So there's a question that just popped up. Who should we have as a podcast guest, please? I look forward to people's input on that. My other goals for 2023 are around launching a X prize, around extending the healthy lifespan of humans. I'm super passionate about that. It's doing more to support entrepreneurs at scale. And I think we're living in a day and an age where we can dream bigger than ever before. And I hope that all of you do. I hope that you up your game, that you focus on the world's biggest challenges because they deserve your attention and you deserve to be making a dent in the universe. Nick and Dana, thank you. Thank you everybody who joined in. Grateful and thank you for helping us take this podcast to one of the top 10 and tell your friends and see you guys all soon. Everyone, this is Peter again.

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