Unlock Your Leadership Potential: Emotional Intelligence for Success!

In this CJ Moneyway Show episode, host Corwin CJ Moneyway Johnson interviews Dr. Greg Stewart, an author, leadership coach, counselor, and former pastor. Dr. Stewart shares his eclectic personal and professional journey—from a junior‑church upbringing, through seminary, a PhD in counseling, and years of pastoral, consulting, and executive coaching work—highlighting how each phase shaped his understanding of emotional intelligence (EI). He introduces his iCubed (I³) framework—Information, Interpretation, Intensity—explaining how gathering full information, critically interpreting it, and managing emotional intensity can prevent inflated emotional reactions. The conversation delves into the roots of negative emotions (identity, insecurity, trauma), the “house of the heart” metaphor (insecurity floor, identity/value basement, trauma cellar), and practical strategies such as “schedule the minimum” to balance life‑pie slices (God, family, work, health). Dr. Stewart describes his consulting practice, Becoming More, which blends counseling (‑10 to 0) and coaching (0 to +10) to help clients manage negative emotions and develop EI skills. He promotes his book iCubed (I³) and an upcoming couples edition, provides where to find it, and offers a final takeaway: build self‑awareness around negative emotions as the gateway to peace, growth, and effective leadership.
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What's up, my good people? Welcome to the CJ Moneyway Show. In association with Believe Network, the podcast that brings you stories behind the success. Today we'd like to welcome to the show author, leadership coach, and counselor, Dr. Greg Stewart. It's an honor to have you with us today, Doc. How you doing, man?
Absolutely great. And of course, the honor is mine, CJ. Thank you, sir.
I appreciate you taking the time out your busy schedule, man, to come join the show today. So let's start off with your journey, Dr. Greg. Tell us a little bit about yourself and your background and what led you to where you are today.
Alright. So, I'll go way back but don't worry, it'll be short. So, I'll go back to the mid-'70s where I went to a junior church as a kid and became a Christian back then. But, my parents were going to church which meant I could go to church and I did the party-hardy teen years and then suffered the consequences from those years and then recommitted my life to Christ and eventually landed back at church, the very same church I attended as a kid. And so, eventually what that meant was I was called into the ministry But I was one of those back in the mid-'90s, if you remember that, you know, for a bunch of people like us that had a whole bunch of credits but no bachelor's degree, I was one of those. So that's when they started the adult programs, like you go one night a week to get your bachelor's degree. So I took the degree in organizational leadership because that's what they offered. So it was good, but I wanted to get on to seminary. But my first semester in seminary, I took philosophy of counseling., and my eyes were opened up to how powerful that material was. So I immediately mapped out a dual master's. So I got my MDiv, you know, the Greek Hebrew theology in 3 years, and then I started my MA in counseling. Right between that is when I became ordained. But also another defining moment is I started teaching for my alma mater as an adjunct professor in all the organizational leadership courses and fell in love with organizational leadership. Right at that same time, I came across the book Emotional Intelligence by Daniel Goleman, the book that popularized EI. And then at the same time, it's like a perfect storm. I was underneath a leader who was really kind of struggling with leadership abilities. So that's when it started, the organizational development. So when I started my PhD and got my PhD in counseling, I did my dissertation on emotional intelligence as it relates to job satisfaction and organizational commitment. So, it's a whole hodgepodge of I was a pastor, a counselor, adjunct professor, and then started becoming a consultant and cut my organizational development teeth at a medical device company in Michigan where I'm from and really started to fall in love with consulting. So, one thing led to another, I moved to Texas and flew around the country for 3 years doing organizational leadership with senior leadership teams, strategy development, and then coaching all their leaders. And then went from that to working at a behavioral health hospital, a residential treatment center. I was the director working with troubled teens. So, it's just been all over the place. And right now, I'm doing full-time telehealth here at my home. So, just a hodgepodge of different career experiences. But that's how, you know, I'm a counselor, coach, and consultant and do executive coaching but also counseling, the whole spectrum of things.
Yeah, I mean, when you started off, man, it kind of made me think about myself too, as far as when you say that when you was younger, you went to church, you know, your parents went to church, made you go to church. I know the scriptures say, "Train up a child in the way that they should go, and when they get older, they won't depart from it." And so, you know, it kind of correlates with me when I went to, my mother took me to church when I was younger. And then when I got to that age where I was, you know, make my own decision, and like you say, I went out there and I was getting hit by them fiery darts. Darts because I thought I knew everything and really didn't, and I paid the consequences for it.
Absolutely.
So I know exactly what you're talking about with that, man. So, Doc, I understand you're working on your PhD. Can you, you know, share with us what you're majoring in and how that ties into your professional and personal growth?
Right. So I got my PhD in counseling back in 2008, and then we moved to where we are now, just out, you know, about a half an hour outside of Dallas in Rockwall, and I started working on my PhD in systematic theology. Because I've always had the dream of getting a PhD in both. Well, it was a major life shift when my father, who was struggling with dementia, he and my mom had an argument, and his dementia kept his mind from being able to settle the argument, and he took his own life. So from that experience, I was doing so much, but one of my regrets was I did not pursue my dad, like, talking to him. So I actually stopped my PhD. In theology. I quit doing that and I stopped doing adjunct professoring as well. So, I had to make a major life shift, which then came into this year, which led to the book. So, I love that. I always love the theology, but there's also this, which will lead to the book of negative emotions of what do we do with these experiences and instead of avoiding negative emotions leading into it. So, I mean, I know that took a hard left turn when you say, hey, tell me about your new— your PhD, but it was really quite the experience of a life change, you know, if you will.
Oh, no, hey, go any direction you want to go in, Doc, man, you got the floor. So, um, you mentioned this earlier that, you know, you ordained minister and things of that nature. So over your career, you've worn many hats. So tell us about your role as a pastor and how that experience has shaped your approach to leadership and counseling?
So from when I was a youth pastor, then associate, then senior. So in 2000, after I was a youth pastor for 5 years and then shifted to an associate pastor, and that was during the time I was underneath the leader that was really struggling. So a combination of things of one is a lot of negative emotions being under a difficult leader because you've heard that, you know, people don't leave companies, they leave supervisors. And that over and over and over again. So, it's really leadership and those negative emotions produced out of relationships, whatever they may be with a leader, of course, spouse, children, whatever, that the key is that it kind of was revealing to me. So, there was victories and then there was defeats. Victory was that I held my emotional maturity and realizing that, look, He's the pastor, he's the leader. I'm not going to, in a sense, rebel, but at the same time, working through the truth of my opinions, right? Then I became a senior pastor. Then as a senior pastor, we grew like crazy, but it started to kind of reveal in my own heart insecurities, my own insecurities that when people would disagree with stuff or leave the church, I really started to take things personally. And then, that led to eventually after 15 years, and it was overall a wonderful experience. I was at the church for 15 years that I became a Christian as a kid. But, after that, it was when I left that church and had a great experience, I gave them a year's notice. But, after that is when things started to really show themselves. And, in the book, I talk about that I had after that, after I left the church, I was a pastor at another church just helping out as well as a counselor, but I had an emotional affair. So, you have this combination of seeking destiny, purpose, and calling and being skilled and successful. But, what we don't recognize is there's a lot of stuff that's very, very personal that even though you can be successful, that's going on underneath the surface that was happening in me because I was actually shocked that how did this happen? I was a marriage counselor and a pastor, yet I have an emotional affair. And it was through that exposure. And after we moved to Texas, my marriage didn't make it. But then I began, honestly, about a 10-year journey of doing a deep dive into what was happening in my own negative emotions. So that's where it's like I was very successful. I'm very proud of my, you know, my resume, my career, but it kind of like was all for naught. It was not all for naught, but if I didn't deal with this deeper stuff. And that's kind of how it led to the book I wrote. Yeah, it was tough.
Yeah, it was powerful. Yeah, that's deep right there. I was doing something yesterday and it say that we kill the flesh daily, but it's still things that rises up. I'm listening to you talking about the emotional affair, you know what I'm saying? And things of that nature. And so it's like, although we suppress things, but at times we still human and Whether, you know, I'm a pastor or whether I'm a deacon or missionary or whatever in the church capacity, you know, it's still things that rises up, man. So you made me think about, and I thank you for that 'cause that was confirmation, you know what I'm saying, of what I was doing yesterday. Yeah, so you talking about emotional, you said emotional affair. So let's go here. One of the most exciting projects is your book, IQ Emotional Techniques. Can you give us some inside look of the book and what can readers gain from it?
Okay. So, iCubed, it came from— I mean, that's a technique, information, interpretation, intensity. I developed that technique 20-some-odd years ago and always wanted to write a book on it. But, you know, it's not time until it's time. So, just really quick, it's information that when we hear things, we get emotional. But, a lot of times, once we gather more information, our emotions immediately change, right? It happens to all of us, especially in our current culture. So, out of the book and my personal growth has kind of turned into like for me, in 2025 is going to be a mission to really make this public and try and make it widespread as possible to help our culture kind of mature and grow up because we know based on social media and stuff that people are making interpretations, right? So, information interpretation intensity. So, I say that it's illegal, strong word, but it's wrong for me, illegal for me to have any opinion interpretation or any emotion intensity until I have all the information. So, it's really just that one technique of stopping ourselves and say, "I cannot give my opinion. It's not even wise or mature to give my opinion until I have all the information." But once I have all the information, let's say, then we go to interpretation. This is where critical thinking kicks in that I first have an opinion like what's in my mental model will just say, "This is what I think about it." But critical thinking says, is there any other way of thinking about it? So, there's this humility that we all need to have of challenging our mental models and saying there's more information we need and there's different ways of thinking about thinking. And then the final thing is intensity, which is simply— I say emotion is energy. So, we burn that energy responding. But the subtitle of my book is Unlock the Inner Strength behind our negative emotions. And that's where my mission and calling is coming in to help our culture and say, look, we have way too much of this. It's an epidemic of where I'm trying to convince people that your environment is to have no power, no control over your emotions. Now, it can influence, but it should not have power or control. I'm responsible for my negative emotions. So, a key theme is, All negative emotions are exposing something in you. So, one is to give people the power that my environment has no control or power. It should influence. I say, the first blush response to anything is nothing bothers me unless it should, right? So, I can't just go around apathetic and just avoid everything. No, if it should bother me, I need to burn negative emotions to address the problem but begin there, right? So, that's one. So, nothing bothers me unless it should. But what do we all find? So, I use this analogy of like a house, right? So, imagine we're standing on the front yard and you and I are sitting there talking and then somebody is there and they trigger us, right? They're doing something, they insult us or whatever, and we're sitting there burning energy processing them. And then, a bunch of other people show up. So, I say one is we have an opinion of what they're doing that's wrong or whatever the case is, but what we often find is you're good but me, my emotions get inflated. Like, the true importance or weight of what they're doing is like on a scale of 1 to 10, it's like a 1 or 2. And you're good. You're like at a 1 or 2 and you're addressing them. But no, Greg, he's like at a 6, 7, or 8. So, my question is, what is the reason or the cause for the inflation? So, a lot of times people say there's a good quote I read that people often equate the strength of their emotions with the strength of their arguments. And that is not the case. So at that point, because it's inflated, I have way too much emotional energy for the situation. And if I just burn it, I'm going to cause damage on relationships, right? So I say, you got to turn around. Behind me is the house of my heart. I got to turn around and walk into my negative emotions and walk in that front door. And the first room is insecurities, right? And insecurities are on the front. And then I have the other emotions of insecurity, anxiety, fear, worry, anger, depression. It's kind of like my paradigm for counseling. But the first floor is insecurities, right? So, but then there's a door and the door goes down into the basement. So one is our day-to-day emotions. Basically, it gets inflated because we believe a lie like they meant to do that or I'll never get a job, right? But that's one reason for the inflation that we believe a lie and then it increases the emotion. But the second reason is when you go into the basement, in the basement is the machine of identity, value, and worth. So if you ever heard that, you know, when we take things personally, like I mentioned a few minutes ago, it's that a negative event, I take it personally, which means it impacts my value and worth. So, I had to, after the emotional affair, kind of go down there, which had to do with the church and everything, of saying, "Look, my value and worth is kind of contingent upon the approval, validation, or pursuit, relational pursuit of others." Now, so what I say is the goal is, and I have a system for walking through it, it's I don't need, let's say my wife, I don't need my wife to pursue or validate me. I mean, I want her to, but I don't need her to. My identity, value, and worth is set and secure. So there's a whole process for solidifying that I— that's what I'm saying— I control who I am, the facts about myself as my identity. I control my value and worth, right? And own what I need to own. But then in the basement, so there's that machine, but then over in the corner, CJ, is a door. It's the cellar, the dark, dingy cellar of trauma. Now, trauma, there's big T trauma, which is official diagnosable like war vets or it's a threat of loss of life or limb. But there's little t trauma and that's what we all go through. And that little t trauma simply means that when we walk into a situation that our mental model goes, "Gregg, oh my goodness, here we go again." And then it scoops the emotion from that bad event like my divorce, let's say, and plops it on the situation right now, right? So, whatever, I might have a legitimate, you know, beef with you, but it really should be only that one or two. The inflation is not CJ's issue, it's Greg's issue. So, we have to unlock the inner strength behind our negative emotions by walking into them. No more denial of negative emotions because there is a doorway, a pathway. That we need to assess if we're really serious about our maturity, our growth, our rest, our peace. We've got to face these negative emotions and figure this stuff out.
That's good, man. I like that. Basically taking accountability and facing it head on, you know, because I think people like in our space, you know, as far as being an author and the things that you're doing in life, a lot of times we do want to be validated by others. And so like you say, a lot of times you just got to put that to the side and say, I'm worth enough. If whoever approve, approve. If they don't, then I know what God has set before me. And so, because people can throw you off track and make you believe what you're doing is not worth it or you're not somebody that's worthy to be doing what you're doing, or why did God choose you to do this, or provide these messages or whatever. So I like that. You got to overlook some things sometimes and just look at yourself, man, and, and look at the doors that you was talking about, that machine down there. Yeah, in the basement.
Yeah. And it comes back to where, I mean, again, nothing bothers me unless it should, which means— so every relationship is based upon safety and pursuit, right? So I mean, there's levels of relationship, you know, with my wife down to just friends, but So relationships are about safety and pursuit, and there's legitimate— so it's, I don't need them to, I want them to, but it doesn't— saying that doesn't change the definition of relationship. It does not change the standards or expectations. It doesn't change that. So if there is a legitimate issue that my wife, I— she should pursue, validate, whatever, we can have a conversation without me dumping all this extra negative emotion, right? And so it's always about the right amount. It's not— the goal is not zero. The goal is the right amount because then I engage because I mean, I'm invested in our relationship. So I'm going to burn— I have negative energy like, why did CJ say that? Or why didn't he pursue me? I keep texting him to have breakfast with him, but he's not responding. So I burn that energy to address it without dumping a whole bunch and start, you know, insulting. So it's having the right amount of negative emotion and addressing the standards of what should be. And then that's healthy. So, that's a goal. I use the paradigm of rational, healthy, wise, and right. So, everything we do is trying to achieve an emotional goal, right? So, I say micro-emotional goals, the here and now, I'm thirsty, I take a drink. So, micro, I want to feel my thirst is quenched or feel full or feel rested. But then, there's the macro-emotional goals. The macro is our quality of life, has divided into a standard of living because we're all in pursuit of a standard of living. But macro quality of life is living our values and it's fulfilling destiny, right? So, while we're doing micro emotional goals here and now, we're also doing macro, right? So, we're always choosing pathways to achieve those emotional goals, right? But when it comes to individually and then relationally, I have a deeper emotional goal, like we talked about, of being validated, feeling secure, right? Feeling successful. And then the negative emotions come from when my path is blocked. So yeah, we all have a choice about relationships. So, hey, you know, I wish I could have had a relationship with CJ. I don't need to have a relationship with CJ. I want to, but he's just not responding to my text. So I guess, you know, he's not wanting, which is his choice, the same type of thing. So that's fine. So I have to choose another path to still achieve the goal of a relationship, right? So it's just, it's a wise way of living. And it's really about having the right amount of negative emotions. But again, it's the sign we need to look at is when they're inflated, right? We've got to walk in that door and figure out why.
Mm. I'm kind of glad you brought that up, Doc, because you say texting, you know, like if you want to have a relationship with somebody, you can't. 'Cause that's one thing that does bother me and I do tell people that it bothers me. And I guess as you say, you know, emotionally I get angry about certain things. 'Cause if me and Dr. Greg, if we buddies or we call ourselves brothers or brothers in Christ or, you know, whatever. And I text you and you don't respond to me, I got a problem with that. Because we are living in a society nowadays where everybody has they phone in their hand, you know. You see that I text you, you just choose not to respond to my text. And so that does bother me to a certain extent, because if we supposed to be friends, then, you know, people do what they want to do and don't do what they— you know what I'm saying, certain things. So I can't consider us friends if you're ignoring me, you know, right? I know that you're ignoring me because I'm the type of person— if Dr. Greg texts me, you know, like we did on the call before here, If Dr. Greg texts me and I see that he texts me, I'm gonna text him back, you know, even if I can't get to you at that moment. At some point in time, I'm gonna text you back and acknowledge that I saw your text and I'll get back to you or whatever. I mean, yeah, I do have emotional, right?
Well, I mean, so that's the right amount because it's— but on the other side, like you said, everybody's got their phone in their hand. And so that's the difference between a micro-emotional goal and a macro. It's on their side. They are, and this is where emotional intelligence comes in with impulse control and delay of gratification. Like they're doing their thing and their micro-emotional goal is they want to attend to something else, but they also have to pay attention to the macro-emotional goal of living their values. Right? Because it's a matter of that interchange that sometimes I have to say no to my micro selfish emotional goal. Out of the obligation of a macro emotional goal of living my values because that is where we find, you know, rest and peace, right? So, that's what I need to do. And let's say if you're texting me, however, if you are like your emotion is like inflated and then you take it personally, well, that piece is on you, right? That's what we have to walk into. So, when I say that I don't need to have, you know, them respond or whatever, I want them to. It doesn't again change the definition, standards, or expectations, but what it changes is this: the degree of emotional impact on me if it doesn't occur. So if the pursuit or validation does not occur, it has the right amount. So it doesn't change the values of our relationship, but it changes the degree of negative impact on me because I don't need the relationship. I want it. And that's again, what's key. It's having that right amount and trying to give people a framework because we all experience this, right? So whether it be in organizations and coaching, I deal with the same stuff with leaders, right? Because again, leaders, my follower is not following, or my boss is not validating. So it's always about our leadership and management abilities have everything to do with our emotional management, right?
Yeah.
So I say that leaders overcome obstacles everybody else wishes they could overcome. Okay, now what are those obstacles? They're inside, intrapersonal. Again, impulse control, emotion, all that. But they're also interpersonal. What's an interpersonal obstacle? Well, if I'm not getting my way at work, okay, well, leaders overcome those obstacles by being creative and finding other ways versus leader people who aren't. They sit there and just get angry at not achieving my goal. So all leaders or emotionally intelligent people to do more broadly, overcome obstacles everybody else wishes they could overcome. Well, that's what makes them leaders. It's we all have the same struggles regardless of the context. It's just leaders and emotionally intelligent people overcome them. How? Well, there's a way to do it. But, and the key is that I cannot simply validate every single time what my mental model produces. And that's what we all do. We just take carte blanche of, well, I'm feeling this. Right? Again, the strength of my emotions is the strength of my argument, which is a lie. And it's just, we have to just, all negative emotion is exposing something in you. Start there. And that's the pathway. That's the pathway to rest, peace, and wisdom.
Yeah, I like that. Emotion, it starts with you. So Doc, you just mentioned about being a leader and counselor and things of that nature. You also, you know, leadership coach and counselor with a consulting firm. What inspired you to create this firm? How do you help people grow through your work?
All right, so it's my— Becoming More is the name of it. So it's a, you know, participle if you love English, right? So becoming is a part— it's an ongoing process, becoming more. So subtext is everyone becomes what they want to, only some people think about becoming more. And what that means is everyone becomes what they want to. I'm not talking about, well, I want to be president, but I'm not. No, it's, it's you become what you want to mean the want is your mental model just giving you suggestions. So, you want to initially go with what your mental model suggests. So, everybody becomes— you want to hit the snooze button 7 times, right? But some people, right? So, or else you wouldn't do it. Some people think about becoming more. So, that's the development. That's my mission is to help people become more. But then, in counseling, coaching, consulting, so I kind of put it on a number line of -10 to +10. So negative 10 to 0 is kind of like counseling, right? So I say that you need counseling when your negative emotions are getting in the way of your everyday living, right? So you have to deal with some stuff. But let's say we get to 0, right? Once we get to 0, then we're stable, if you will. Then it's 0 to positive 10 is where coaching comes in. Same kind of principles and techniques, But it's about becoming more effective than what you are. It's adding to your KSA's knowledge, skills, and abilities. So, that's kind of the combination. So, whatever it be, you know, -10 to 0 or 0 to +10, it's people. And so, helping them both deal with those negative emotions but also help them become more effective in, let's say, EI skills to become more effective in their relationships and leadership management and professionally, if you will.
Mm. So Doc, man, I really enjoyed you coming on, dropping these nuggets today. I only got a few more questions for you before we move on though. Let me ask you, where can we find the book at and where can we find you on social media?
On a bunch of social media. So if you go to becomingmore.com, right, that's my website. My book is real simple. It's on Amazon. I just, on social media, I put it out and say search for I3 book. You just search for i3, you're going to go to computer chips, right? The Intel stuff. But I say search for i3 book, and then that's where you're going to find the book. And I have it here. And by the way, I'm coming out with iCubed for Couples in February. So, it's the same concepts but applied to couples. But that's where you find it. But my website's becoming more, and on there is all my social media. But Dr. Greg Stuart, if you look for that or Dr. Greg Stuart, you'll find me on social media. But that's where you find me.
Okay. Hey, Doc, be sure to send me your links, man, so I can put them in the show notes so the audience can check out.
Absolutely. And also, I'm gonna— I just like I do, I'm gonna send you— I'll mail you a copy of my book. So I was like giving a free copy to people who host me for a podcast, brother. So I'm gonna send you a copy of the book. It'll be in the mail. Hopefully you'll get it before December of 2025. I'm just joking.
I appreciate that a whole lot, Doc. I really do. So like I said, man, I only got a couple more questions for you. So One of them is, at this point in your life, when did you realize that you was a natural born leader? And was there a moment or experience that solidified your realization?
I would say that it began out of mission, vision, and purpose. So once I recommitted my life to Christ and all that he did for me, it then just turned into, I want everybody to experience this. So, like with, you know, true entrepreneurs, it begins with what I call the Ironman core, that inexhaustible energy source. And that Ironman core is about— I say that every job ever, every technological advancement ever in human history is trying to solve a human problem or enhance the human experience. An entrepreneur looks at the world and says, something's got to change here. And they don't worry about like leadership or man, they just go after it to try and change it. And then from that comes the ability. So, that's where it began. But then, when I got my— the Lord just led to my, again, degree of organizational leadership, meaning that, man, I can't just go off like a half-cocked gun. I need to— there's principles that people have already researched and studied on how to accomplish that mission and vision. And then, number 3 would be just building self-awareness around the obstacles like my personality. Sometimes, I can be too like the kids at the residential treatment center would say, "Dr. Greg, you're so extra." Right? So, when I first heard that, I was like, "I don't know what that means but it sounds like a compliment. So, thank you." Right? So, it's managing your personality using emotional intelligence and realizing what's in your way, which is stuff like your personality on the surface, but it's also what's in my way is the deeper stuff like we talked about. But that's kind of like been the journey and it just kind of just, it all, but it all began with that mission of I want to improve people's lives.
Mm. That's what it's all about, man. That's why I enjoy doing this show, meeting people like yourself, man. And I tell you, like I tell others, it's a beautiful thing when people can put they self to the side and it's not all about me, but it's about service for others, you know? And that's what the Moneyway Show has been focusing on, man. And I truly enjoy of you guys that out there trying to make a difference in the world, not only with yourselves, man, but trying to impact the lives of others. And I think that's an awesome thing to do. So Doc, man, just let me ask you one more question, man. I know a lot of doctors get asked this question or they're faced with these questions. How do you manage stress and stay balanced in such a demanding role? And what's your strategy for maintaining that balance?
Great question. I like often say to people, you ever hear like the ranking order, it's God, family, and then church or whatever the case is? And a wise— my leader, the pastor who hired me, he says, Greg, it's not that, it's all God, right? So God cares about the entire thing. So I liken it unto a pie and the pie is divided into slices and the slices are all the areas of our life. My relationship with God, my relationship with my wife, with my kids, my job, Then there is the slice of the pie that is exercise, that is personal growth and development. So, the key is I use a technique called scheduling the minimum because all the slices of the pie fall underneath the banner of the more, the better. The more time I spend with my wife, the better. The more time I spend with kids or recovery time, we need a slice for that. But what happens is a slice of the pie will take up too much and we're not accomplishing their goals. So, you just have to step back and say, "I need to achieve all the goals." So, schedule the minimum in every area, including recovery time. Because sometimes recovery time, either one or two things, people just to spend too much time in recovery time or those of us who are super busy, when we sit down for recovery time, we feel guilty. Why? Because we're not accomplishing the other pieces of the pie. So, If we schedule the minimum in every area, what's the minimum amount of time with my wife? And I'm going to accomplish that for our relationship to thrive. Minimum time with God, with the Lord. Minimum time with kids, at work. So it's about accomplishing all the goals and how much because the pie is limited. There's a boundary. And we only have so many resources, the resources of time, finances, and emotions because we get burned out. So you schedule the minimum to ensure, like on your calendar, ensure you accomplish the minimum to make sure each slice is thriving, right? Working out 2 days a week won't do it, but working out 3 will to be healthy, right? So it's, it's really that. It's making sure you have all the goals accomplished and putting it quantifiably into a calendar to make sure I have enough time because I'm invest— I have to invest because I mean, that's my values, quality of life values. Standard of living as well as mission, destiny, and purpose. That's my counsel on that one.
You said two things that was valuable to me because I've heard this yesterday too. I didn't hear about the pie, but I like the pie analogy. You know, minimum here, there, because you are spread it out thin in certain places, but make sure that you accomplish these things and then you'll be more satisfied. Then you said something about the calendar, and I heard this yesterday. God told me, he said that He writes everything down, you know, like when they go to church, like, I'm going to church on Sunday, you know, spending time with the kids to watch WWE on Friday at 8 o'clock. And I say, you know, I'm like, a lot of time I write things down because, you know, like scheduling with a podcast, I gotta have a schedule, so I gotta write down the times who I'm interviewing and things of that nature. But Like you just touched on that too. I don't write everything down. You know, like me and my wife going on vacation for our honeymoon next week. So I didn't write, I didn't put that in my calendar, you know? So now you just, you know, again, you confirmed something for me. Start writing down everything so that you can start tackling things and you know, you know, your goals and what's on your list, things to do so you can start minimizing things. So I appreciate you for dropping that nugget on us. So Doc, man, before we get out of here, man, before we close, Dr. Greg, if there's one key takeaway or piece of advice you want our audience to walk away with, what would that be?
Build self-awareness around your emotional experience, right? And realize that your negative emotions— because again, the impulse is to process and burn energy on what caused the negative emotions. So the biggest takeaway that starts everything is realize that when you have negative emotions, you've got to figure out where you're off first. All negative emotions are exposing something. You start there and realize that there's a lot to unpack. But again, at the end, it's powerful. It's growth. It's peace. It's success. Because at the end of the day, we want peace. Every human heart, I just want to be at peace. You've got to go there because the enemy of peace is negative emotions. So self-awareness around your negative emotions and realize that I may need to go there first.
Mm. Hey, you heard it here from my man, Dr. Greg. Hey, go grab his book, iCube Emotional Techniques. Check out his website. Check out his links in the show notes. Hey, you have been listening to the CJ Moneyway Show with your boy CJ Moneyway and Dr. Greg. We outta here. Peace. Thank you.
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