“Whoomp! There It Is → Reinvention | DC Glenn of Tag Team on The CJ Moneyway Sh$w”

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What's up, my good people? Welcome to the CJ Moneyway Show. In association with Believe Network, the podcast that brings you stories behind the success. Today, we're thrilled to welcome a true icon in entertainment, actor, singer, songwriter, voice artist, and hip-hop legend from the group Tag Team, which brought us the unforgettable hit "Whoop." There it is. DC Glenn, man, thank you for joining the show today, man.

I was like, wow, who's this dude? Weird when you hear it back from somebody else, boy.

Good grief. Oh man, hey man, you accomplished a lot.

Hey man, I'm happy to be here, man. What's going on with you guys, man?

I appreciate it, man. Nah, man, you know, longevity in the game, you know. Hey, a lot of accolades that you got going on, man. And, uh, you know, I'm just glad that you came on the CJ Moneyway Show today. So Glenn, man, let's start off. Tell us a little bit about yourself and about your background. And how it was growing up on the South Side of Chicago, and what challenges did you face, and how did that shape you?

Well, I don't remember because I left Chicago when I was 4 years old. So I remember being in Chicago because my father used to take me and put me on the back of his bike and drive me around the lake. I remember certain little things like that, but other than that, I moved to Denver, Colorado, when I was 4.

Mm-hmm.

And grew up in Denver, Colorado, went to Sac State College and came down to Atlanta because Steve was down here. And I've been down here ever since, hustling and grinding. And that's kind of what I'm all about, man. It's just, you know, they call me DC the Brain Supreme, and they call me that for a reason, because I don't quit. I play offense and I just figured things out, right? And it's always been that way and it continues to be this way today because, you know, after 31 years we're still touring. We're like 3 different tours now. I'm acting, booked a commercial next week, and doing voiceover, which is pretty much every day. You know, I got flexibility, so it's just Continuing to hustle, continuing to learn, right? The biggest thing is that I love to learn. So through my learning and through necessity of not depending on people and not expecting people to do things for me, I'm very savvy in AI. I'm very savvy in every technology that comes about. You know, I always try to find a different way because there is a way. And I love marketing. So all these things came out of necessity because ain't nobody gonna do nothing for you. So you better learn how to be your own publicist. You better learn how to be your own marketer. You better learn how to be your own booking agent. Better learn how to be all the things that you want to get this bread. Then you build a support team that helps you get to your, you know, achieve your goals, right? Get you a talent agent, things of that nature. But you got to do the work. Nobody's going to do anything for you. They can aid you, but it takes you to do the work. Now, that's my experience. Some people lock the hell up, and they got people who can do everything for them. All they gotta do is do their thing. But I haven't been that fortunate, right? And, you know, because we had such a big record, we weren't able to really do anything else. And the most other legal, you know, we had been in a legal battle for like, we was in a legal battle from like '98 to 2017. Right. So always, I guess I've been forced to always try to find the positive in the negative, because if I didn't do that, I just would have became an old bitter rapper with a story of how we got screwed in the music industry, right? And there's enough, there's enough of them out there. So yeah, I was never that dude. So way back in the late '90s, I pretty much became a paralegal because we were in a legal battle because I needed to learn what these people were talking about. So I had to learn the language. And I just vowed that, you know, nobody's gonna beat me out of no money ever again. So I basically had to become a financial advisor and became a licensed commodities broker. And I learned finance, and I had to learn the language, and I had to improve myself. And my goal is just to be a better man today than I was yesterday. So that involves a lot of self-help, right? A lot of reading Anthony Robbins and, you know, Zig Ziglar and business books and all the things of that nature. You go through that self-help kick and then, you know, trying to stay healthy and trying to just continue to live a good life, you know, that requires a lot of sacrifice and requires maximum effort if you want to be successful. And that's just what I try to teach because I'm a motivational speaker as well. So I just try to get people to think a little bit differently, right? I think the first thing I try to teach people is that nobody is going to give you anything. Don't nobody owe you anything. And last, don't nobody care. And once you realize that, you're truly free. Your mind is free. It's up to you to go get the knowledge, right? Because the knowledge is out there. You just have to go get it. And I've just come up with several tactics to be able to get the knowledge that I need. You know, most people say go to school, which is good. Most people say read a book, which is good. You know, a lot of people will say get a course, which is good. But I've done all that, you know. I'm trying to evolve into something better. So what I end up doing by accident is easiest way to two points is somebody teaching you the game. We've all had— I'm sure you had plenty of hustlers who put you on game, and, and, you know, the old school guys and told you stuff, and you'd be like, man, I appreciate you, OG, you know what I mean? Put you on game about their experiences of what they've been through.

Yeah.

So to find those type of people, I joined organization, right? That's why I tell kids, I was like, what do you want to be? What do you want to be? What do you want to be? I said, so from here on out Anytime you want to— you're interested in something, type in organization, society, or association after, and then you're going to come up with 10, 15 different organizations that support that genre of business or that career. And you start making calls, and then you'll find out real quick if it's for you or not. But if it's for you and that's what you want to do, then you get a membership, which don't cost that much. And you just start learning everything you can because organizations have the resources to teach you. They have the resources to get you started financially, and they got thousands of members who can't wait to run their mouth about how good their business is because they've been doing it 10, 20, 30, 40 years and just can't wait to teach you the game, right? That's why I do podcasts every day, because it's my contribution to the game. I sit here and spit game to folks. I ain't trying to promote nothing. I ain't trying to do anything but teach people to be blessed how I've been blessed. And that's my mission, man. And, you know, whatever I can do to just sit down and talk to people, you know, people like, man, you got all that game, man, you could be selling this. Like, nah, don't work like that. Because my motto is you give what you want first, right? And that's why I stay blessed.

Man, like you said, you showed your draft some game over here, man. I appreciate that, you know, because like one thing that you were saying, like ain't nobody gonna give you nothing. And you know, you just got to go out there. You got to learn how to be your own marketer. You got to learn how to be your own publicist, you know. And I, and I know exactly what you said because before I was talking to you, that's what I'm up here doing, you know, just marketing, you know, doing marketing stuff, you know, because everything— ain't nobody giving me nothing, so I got to go out there and get it. And like, you know, that is all about consistency, you know, even when it don't seem like that is, you know, it is what it is. But people ain't feeling you, you know what I'm saying? But as long as you understand yourself, what you trying to do and what goals you trying to reach, you just gonna keep on going, man. And the doors open up for you. So I truly get what you're saying on that point, man. So let me ask you, DC, man, what inspired you to get into the entertainment industry? And what were the key moments or influence that fueled your drive?

Just from a kid, man, you know, I grew up, you know, in a middle-income household and mother and father, great parents. You know, we weren't rich, but you know, we was good. And I grew up in a community and my mom made me go to piano lessons. My father's like, y'all gonna play music, right? So I didn't have no choice, but that didn't stick. But, um, what did stick is when I got to, uh, 11th grade, I switched high schools in Denver, Colorado from Mash Buff High School to Manual High School. And me and Steve became friends because we sat by each other in homeroom. Well, my last name is Glenn, his last name is Gibson. And Steve had a band and they would play in the quad during, uh, lunchtime sometimes. And I was like, I'm gonna be in that band because it just— I mean, I just thought that was the fly stuff, man. And then heard the choir and thought the choir was flies. Like, I'm gonna be in that choir. Both vibrations conducted by Dr. Joyce Davis. And I had never been exposed to all this stuff and music in a different way, right? There's all kind of forms of music, but I'd never been exposed to music in a different way. And lastly, I went to my first high school dance, the first, uh, dance at this high school, Manual. And this is like when Pac Jam was out by the Johnson Crew and all the electronic record, Planet Rock and I'm Not Fish and all them records. And I saw a DJ, two turntables and a microphone rocking. I've never seen that. Yeah, right. I never said that was like when hip-hop was brand new, like early '80s. And I was like, I'm gonna be a DJ. And I became all three. And through years of hard work and mastery, I became very good at all of them, right? And graduated, went to Sac State, learned how to use a 4-track because, you know, technology evolves and always stayed up on the technology, became a great DJ, DJ'd all the frat parties and started DJing the clubs in Sacramento. I'm 19, 20 DJing in the clubs, supposed to be in class. I'm working. Then moved to Atlanta and didn't think my, you know, DJ skills were up to par. So I was trying to work at CNN But end up getting a job at Magic City.

Mm.

And that changed everything. It actually— Magic City actually ruined my life, and it's the greatest thing that ever happened to me. Two things can be true. And, you know, the rest is history, man. That's where "Wump There It Is" was spawned. You know what I'm saying? And being able to test your records at the place that you worked, and then you beating all the stars because you in the number one club in the city. You know what I mean? I'm friends with these people to this day. Dominique, Dion, Falcons back in the day, Otis, Autumn Braves back in the day, all the artists back in the day. We all family, right? And so I was already popular before you thought about putting out records like that. It was always the goal to be a rock star, but down in the Southeast, you gotta make booty shake. But my influences from all over the country, because when I was in SAC DJing, I would order from 12 Inch Dance Records and DC. So I was getting all the New York records, down south records, Midwest records— where, you know, I mean, what, like, uh, Texas records. I was getting all the L— I was exposed to all the LA stuff at the beginning, right? And so my influences are wide-ranging. So coming down to Atlanta, I was still trying to do hip-hop. Then I realized we had to do some up-tempo. It was like, I knew I wasn't going to do a build and make the booty shake stuff, but I knew I could make stuff like, you know, I can make that electronic Planet Rock stuff because that's the essence of hip-hop. That's the beginning of the beat boy era. Our first attempt was Wump There It Is, and it just blew up. I knew it was going to be a record, but as a young man, I'm thinking every record I make is going to be a hit record. So it was like, uh, what was it, like, uh, February 1993. No record labels was just, you know, back then it was New York and LA, and they were trying, you know, to do something with the record, but their model was New York and LA. They didn't know how to do a down south record. But young lady told me to call a guy named Al Bell. For those who don't know who Al Bell is, in the beginning of soul music, there were 3 record companies: Billy International, Motown Berry Gordy, and Stax Records, which is Al Bell. And he had had, you know, he fast forward, he put out a record called Daisy Dukes by Deuce that blew up in the Southeast and went gold. So she's like, you need to talk to him because he know how to use, do use bass records. And I was like, cool, I can go gold, I don't mind, I just want to get put on. And I called him, he hit me back 2 weeks later, and I was like, look, man, I got a hit record, you need to take, you know, I don't need it, you need to just sign us, man, because We gonna lose this thing if you don't hurry up and sign us. And he's like, all right. I was like, come on, man, you ain't even heard the record. He's like, I ain't gotta hear the record. I hear it in your spirit. Let's agree to agree, get this thing moving. And I was like, bet. And you know, gave my 2 weeks at Magic City, signed a messed up record contract. And after a month and a half, Tag Team was platinum. Mm, that's history, dog.

So let me ask you about that, man. You know, because I know Whoop That It Is came out in '93. Y'all sold over like 7 million singles worldwide. So what was that experience like? What kind of doors did that open for you guys?

I mean, just being in the music industry, touring, meeting all the people, you know, meeting, you know, your colleagues and the people who had hit records at the same time and touring with people that you grew up listening to their records and just fun because, you know, we were young, man. So we just balling. And then I lived in Atlanta, so I was already popular, right? So it really wasn't a big phase to me. But, you know, being to travel the world and go to Europe and, you know, South America and just travel, man. And we had a really, really good time and a really, really good run. And You know, then the business part, you know, then the business part pops up because like, okay, now where's my money? And then that's when it gets sticky, right? And that's when it kind of just— I ain't gonna say fell apart, but that's when it started fading. And you know, big bank take little bank, and little bank thought he had big bank, but not the bank that the big bank got. So that's what, you know, It was like, whoa, okay, I'm thinking I can legally deal with this, but then it's like, man, I had to go back to work after 4 years, right? And that's not a problem because basically be DJing back then was getting show money. So still doing shows, DJing in the club, went back to what I knew, DJing. But getting engaged can be stressful. Getting the right ring won't be at bluenile.com. The jewelers at bluenile.com have sparkle down to a science with beautiful lab-grown diamonds worthy of your most brilliant moments. Their lab-grown diamonds are independently graded and guaranteed identical to natural diamonds and ready to ship to your door. Get $50 off your purchase of $500 or more with code POD at bluenile.com. That's bluenile.com, code POD for $50 off. I studied and I just vowed that'll never happen again. And it's like, you can either put that stuff to the back of your head and fight or you just become old and bitter, and I just refuse to be that. But along that way, the growth and becoming a professional businessman, that is the byproduct of hustle, because I've always been a hustler. Clubs taught me how to hustle, right? You know, really it goes back to my parents, because my parents made us, you know, they gave us chores. We had to do work. Like, I had to cut lawns and mow grass and shovel snow. I did do all that stuff. Or I couldn't go out and play. If I didn't go to church, I couldn't go out and play. And back then, play was everything. Go play football with the neighborhood. Come on, man. Ride bikes with the neighborhood, play basketball, baseball, man, please. We was our own entertainment. Everything. Community of people, right? Like, I grew up, I had the greatest childhood. I had the greatest childhood. I know a lot, there's a lot of people out there, my people that didn't have fathers, and I used to just not really talk about it. But I'm like, that ain't no excuse. I said, I had a great father. My father educated me in ways that I can educate you. So that's why I just give it away, because, you know, don't use that as an excuse. I had a great father. I'll tell you everything he taught me right here on this podcast. So what's up? Don't use that as an excuse. There is always a way, and people don't realize that. And like I said, I'm a little different. I think backwards, right? You know, like you say you were marketing, right? Yeah. And there's probably a concept of what social media is as a concept, what marketing is, but there really is no concept. You know, everybody comes up with an innovative idea and then everybody else follows. So why can't it be me that comes up with the innovative idea, right? And, you know, Young cats be like, man, you got a social media, you gotta do this, you gotta do that. It's like, no, I don't. I said, man, my ass old, I ain't trying to do that. But I do do social media, like, I just do it differently. Because to me, people do social media for several reasons. Social media to some people is their life, right? Because they just put their life on blast the whole time. It's their own TV show. Hey, that's cool. Ain't me though. A lot of people need or want because they've never had attention and they thrive it, so they do whatever to get that attention to keep going because it's an elixir, right? And I'm like, nah, let me figure out another way, right? And you know, social media, everybody's just me, me, me, me, me, look at me, me, me, me, me. And I'm like, I tell people all the time, it's like, I don't need 100,000 people to like me. I just need 100 people to pay me, right?

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So I think about it differently. I think about, you know, like what you were saying. There is somebody out there looking for you. And if you're not in front of them, well, then you got work to do. And when I mean in front of them, I mean talk. I mean, you have to know that there's somebody looking for your type of podcast. There's somebody looking for you because you are enough and you have value. But if you're just carpet bombing everything, hoping and praying that if I blast to 1,000 people and 20 people like me, that's going to work. And that is very, very difficult to do. But if you can find 100 people who get up and Google and say, I want a podcast about this, and you're that podcast, then you get to get in front of them and say, I am your man, holla at me. And now you, you've solved the problem. You've answered the question. You now have 100 more, 100 more people who, who ride with you. You, you have 100 more people that you can— who will buy stuff from you, who will trust you, who will ride with you. And when you build that community like that, that is how old folks can do social media. If you got businesses, that's how you're trying to approach it. The old way is good too. You stay consistent, you can post every other day, stuff like that. That's cool, but it depends on what you're doing. Right? Like, my goal is to get more, keep getting more shows. So therefore, every type of show we've ever done gets a pitch deck. Every type of show we've ever done gets email, uh, email campaign. Every type of show we've ever done gets a CRM campaign. And it's like, look, we do parades. It's the holiday season. Book Tag Team for parades in 2026, a year before, and you're going to see that sprinkled all, all the time. Well, if I've got 30 different types of shows we've done, that gets sprinkled all the time, and I'm getting in front of the people who actually need me, which are promoters, entertainment event coordinators, corporate people. Like, that's who you— that's who I want to be in front of, right? And I get in front of them, and they might not mess with me today just because they saw it, but all I do is plant seeds, right? I don't expect anything from them. Yeah, like you don't plant a seed and sit down Indian style, say, okay, see it, I need you to grow. Yeah, and the seed ain't growing, man. Man, this seed don't work, I quit. How many people we know got into real estate, thought they was going to be rich, and or took a course or took a thing and it didn't work out because they thought that's the only thing they needed to do? Yeah, it's like you plant that seed and keep it moving because you got more seeds to plant. And I don't plant a seed if I'm not prepared for that seed to grow. So if I'm not prepared for this responsibility and the sacrifice of that seed becoming a tree or becoming a big tree, then I'm just flailing all about, and then I never get anything accomplished. And 31 years ago, we planted a seed called Woonk. There it is. It is now a sequoia. It ain't going nowhere. It done been burnt. It done been infested with bugs. It done been fucking chopped down. Well, people done lived in— chopped holes in it and lived in it. But this tree is still standing, and this tree is still bearing fruit. And that's what those seeds have to do for you. It might be a tomato shrub, it might be a pine tree, it might be some shrubs. They all have their purpose, but you continue to plant the seeds because seeds grow. And if you're prepared, when those opportunities come to you, oh, that's another hustle. So when people see me making money, especially back when I was in clubs, they see me make money, be like, oh man, he hustling, because I got 10 hustles. But then your hustle gets diluted because everybody else starts doing it. I'm like, hey, y'all can have this hustle because I got 9 in the hole. Catch me if you can. Right? So I am the leader, not the follower. And even if I do see something that I would like— oh, I should do that— but I'm like, well, how can I do that in a different way?

Different way.

How can I do that in a different way? And that's part of how I think. Like, I had an audition yesterday, and it was for this commercial, and one of the, uh— it was actually a callback, and the question was has anybody ever judged you or dismissed you or discriminated against you because of your weight? I'm like, yeah, back in the day. And you know, how did it make you feel? And most people like, made me feel sad, it made me feel this, it made me feel that. It was like, back in the day it stung a little bit, but now I'm like, I take a different approach because I consistently try to find the positive in the negative.

Mm-hmm.

So someone say, DC, yo, fat ass, boom boom. I was like, man, I ain't gonna get emotionally involved because I'm like, the first question I asked was, well, what if they're right? What am I gonna do about it? Yeah. If you approach it in that way, what have you just done? You've just come up with a solution to an answer that has been plaguing you all your life before, a long time. Right? Whatever they say about you, man, your podcast ain't this, it's like, man, kiss my ass. Well, but what if he's right? What would I do about it? Because all you have control over is what you do. Yeah, it's that different type of thinking. I try to get people to think differently, right, and stay out of their emotions. When you can do that, man, please, ain't nothing you can't do, man.

You said a few things that touched base with me. And one thing you just said, like, because I remember my old man, and that always stuck with me. I was arguing with one of my kids' mothers on the phone one day, and he heard me. He was standing at the door inside the house. He said, hey man, he said, look here, he say, why you sitting up there arguing with that woman? He say, women are emotional, you know what I'm saying? Like, men don't get moved, or we shouldn't be moved by emotions, you know? And that always stuck with me. Yeah, I was like 20 years old at the time, you know.

But that's a gift, because if you think about it, if you're like, what if she's right, man? She don't know what the hell she talking about. But what if she's right? It's not that she's right, it's an exercise for you to sit back and think, if I am like that, how do I be a better man today than I was yesterday? How can I get— and if you, you, you have the solution, even though that solution doesn't, you know, apply to what's going on in that moment, but now you got a solution to put in your pocket for later. And all these things in the back of your head, that key— it's a form of growth, right? And growth and maturity. And that's why I don't have time for any of that. Like, I don't have time. Like, it's crazy how women got it twisted, but, you know, a lot of women don't got it twisted. But, you know, women struggle because they're successful but they can't get what they want, right? They could be successful, have all the money they want, but there's a lot of women out there that aren't fine with just being by themselves. There's a small percentage that is, because I'm cool being by myself, right? But I work in a strip club for 30 years. I have whole lifetimes of ass.

I'm good.

What more can I do, right?

Yeah.

And when you mature and you mature right, the things you used to love start to hate. Mm, that's part of it, right? It's like, I'm— I can't waste my time, right? I'm not wasting my time dating because I know— I, I tell people straight up like this, hey, we can, we can get out of— but you gotta know this is only gonna be about sex. There is really no way that we ever gonna be together because I'm too set in my way. I tell them the truth. If they want to continue on, I've done my part, right? But I'm not gonna— I'm not gonna try to trick you out of something because I don't need to. You know, the best— you know, here's, here's another thing. This is, this, this is what, what is most important. The question was, uh, when do you feel best in yourself? Right? When do you feel the best within yourself? And I said, right now. I said, let me tell you something, because there's about 6 people in the room. I said, let me tell you something. I am a dapper, articulate, older, heavyset, successful man, and I get the privilege to stand in front of you good people and be me.

Mm-hmm.

Because that's who y'all want to see— me. It don't get no better than that. Mm-hmm. Don't get no better than that, right? So you are always enough, right? Because I'm auditioning for y'all's commercial because y'all want me. I get to be me. So right now I'm feeling myself because you're asking me, when do you feel good? Because you are sitting here with me. So I'm like that with women. I'm like, you, you sitting here with me, all good. I feel great. I know what I'm about. I know what I am. But I have a lot of female friends, and that's what I'm telling you about how working in a strip club, you know, working in Magic City, is the greatest thing that ever happened to me and the worst thing that ever happened to me. Because I'm immune to women. I'm immune to that thang. I learned that after the first year. I learned that that was not the most important thing in the world. Happiness, paper, family— there's other things, right?

Yeah.

And once you realize that that thang ain't the most important thing in the world, you are liberated as a man, bro.

I'm feeling you on every level on this, you know, not at the scale that you, you know, said that you on, because I always look at it like, man, if If I had money back when I was younger, I just would have been ignorant with it, you know, because I was already—

everybody, we all blew the money, okay? Because, man, what was it about back then? Back then it was about balling. I'm so tired of balling. Back then it was balling because back then it was a club meant something. The club was the place that you go and dance, right? Like the audition, I had to dance, right? And she was like, what do you want me to play? And I was like, just play some old school R&B. And she played September from Earth, Wind Fire, and it took me back when you had to go ask a woman, hey, would you like to dance? Yeah. And which is basically when you dance with a woman, it's introduction to feel each other out, to see if you were feeling each other. In a way that's positive. And if you're dancing to have a good time, and if you got that game and that mouthpiece, then you go dance 2 songs, 4 songs, 8 songs, then you're gonna go into a slow song if DJ know what he's doing. And I knew what I was doing because I had a front row seat to humanity, so I can create those moods and those mood swings. And I could tell you, I have a list, historical list of people who met in the club Danced with each other, slow dance, and now they've been married for 30 years. Like, the blessings that I've gotten to— the blessings that have come across my plate in the form of education, in the form of how to deal with people, how to read crowds, how to do those— that's why we still get to tour. Because when I walk on that stage, you got an entertainer, baby. You got a DJ who understands. Like, back there was about dancing, it was about fun. It was about all of that. And when they asked me to dance, September came on, all that flushed back on me. And I was in that thing grooving because I was in front of iPad where you could see yourself, right? Because there's other people that were looking from another state, and I could see myself. And once I saw myself, it was just like, just grooving. Yeah, like it took me back to that day. And that's why That's what I think me being DC, the Brain Supreme of Tag Team, who sings the song Wump There It Is, brings to the table, is that I create memories. I've created memories, I create memories, and I bring memories back of a day when everything was all good, man. It's all good, dog.

I know. Hey, like you say, back in the day, like you said earlier, Man, when we just used to go out, community, playing football, baseball, basketball, uh, riding your bikes, going out, just hanging out, you know, just walking the blocks. Because like you say, just be alone.

Yeah, exactly. You do your chores, be at home before dark, you can go wherever you— you can do whatever you— you're a grown-ass young man, you know, you're a grown-ass kid if you can do that, right? Responsibility and the discipline comes from. Yeah, you know, and I am so grateful to my parents for just cracking a whip like that because they create— I've, as a grown man, I have never not known work. I don't give a damn, I'll go work at me. Hey, I will work my ass off because it ain't nothing but work. That's what people understand, ain't nothing but work. So whatever it is you do, as long as you willing to put in the work, it's all good. So I'm like, I'm gonna be an actor, put in the work. I put in the work constantly. It's the hardest thing I ever had to do, but I know that's my ride out. I know motivational speaking is— I've got 3 careers I'm nurturing as I still got a little bit of youth left in me, and I get all the, all the stuff that I used to love that I don't like anymore. I'm not going to continue to linger on still doing it, not liking it. Right? I have enough things that are brand new where I feel brand new all the time. And that's the one thing the strip club did for me. It was the Fountain of Youth. And I retired from the clubs— it's almost 10-year anniversary of me retiring from the clubs. I didn't want to be a 50-year-old DJ. And as soon as I walked away from a club, I turned into an old dude. I thought I was gonna forever be 32 because that was my mentality, because I had to keep up with the music that young folks like. I I kept up with everything, right? And I was good at it because I had experience. And I know how to get the newest music first. I understood the music industry. I understood how radio worked. I understood how all these things work because I came up in them. So therefore, it wasn't that difficult for me to create mood for people to spend money, right? That's what it was all about. You create a good time for people so you get all their pockets. When you left my clubs, I had all your money. The girls had all your money. So now the club pays me, the girls pay me, the customers pay me because I do bitch tapes in the club. I got 6 streams of income when I work. I'm getting 6 times the bread because I'm a hustler. I will always and forever be a hustler because I'm willing to work. Yeah, people don't understand. And Don't nobody owe you nothing, ain't nobody gonna give you nothing, and don't nobody care.

Mm, man, you just said it. I was just talking to somebody yesterday about that. I said, man, I've been working since I was 16 years old, you know. So like you say, I saw my mother go to work, I saw my father go to work every day, and so you just get that work ethic, you know what I'm saying? Like, cause you see it. I've been working since I was 16 years old, and like you say, I dibble and dabble in this, you know, or whatnot. And I'm just always— I wrote books because I'm always trying to do something. I was just telling somebody, a dude cut my hair yesterday. He said, man, you doing podcasts? He said, man, you wrote books too? I said, yeah. I said, man, so people always talking about trying to make a million dollars, but what you doing to try to get it? I ain't saying that I got a million dollars, but I'm trying to do, you know, say put things together so that— like you said earlier, you said something earlier about planting seeds. And I laughed at it because that's one of my thumbnails is planting seeds, you know, or whatever, because that's all life is about, man. You know, whether it's you planting seeds right now on this podcast or whatever, I can't watch it grow. You know, we say some water, some plant. All you got to do is do your part because you don't know if you the water or the planter, you know what I'm saying, in life. So that's what I try to do with young people too.

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