Painting Contractors: Should you hire a salesperson or a production manager first?

to hire a salesperson or hire a production manager. Usually it's the production manager because the, the entrepreneur usually is good at sales and they like to do that more than production management. So I actually talked to you recently, a paint business owner, and he is exactly what I just described. He is around $700,000 and he was kind of asking me, what do you see other paint businesses do? Do they hire the salesperson first or the production manager first? And I told him it's usually always the production manager, but it's not always the production manager. It's kind of based off the personality. And but I think entrepreneurs are more kind of sales, you know, leaning. They like to do that more, so that tends to be what they keep, and then they hire a production manager, um, first.