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Live and in person, interviewing students from the launch incubator. People who have managed to create a digital business from scratch and who no longer depend on traditional employment, where they exchange time for money and their salary depends on the hours they work. I do these types of live broadcasts so that you who are on the other side can also see how it is possible. How it is possible that as an employee that is working for someone else, or as a freelancer, a coach, a therapist, you can stop following the traditional mold of exchanging time for money and start creating a digital business that allows you to achieve those three freedoms that always exist. Economic, geographical and temporal freedom. If you have joined the rest of the live broadcasts that I have been doing, if not, you will see them. Here we were talking about how, in the end, there are two ways to be able to create. Well, there are hundreds and thousands, right? But within this digital business market, there are, sorry, two ways to be able to. Hey, start taking your first steps or start undertaking digital entrepreneurship. And that is the first question that you should ask yourself. I either have an idea of what I want to do or I don't have an idea. I either have knowledge or I don't. And depending on that, you'll take one path or another. There are two paths. There's the expert path, which is the person who may have knowledge, experience or a hobby on a specific topic. You don't need it. Someone asked me the other day, hey, Donnie, but if I don't have a degree, if I don't have a university degree, do you understand the difference between passion and work? Work is something you do out of obligation. Passion is something you do for love. You can work delivering newspapers or in your free time, the content you consume or what you like could be computing. And that's your passion. In this case, you have an idea of more or less what you like. What's the solution? Create a digital product. Related to this. Why a digital product? Because it allows you to create it once and come back as many times as you want. But there's another role. There's also another path, and that's the path of the person who doesn't want to appear in front of the camera, who doesn't want to complicate things, has no idea what it's about, where they're going to start. And so all this person does is look for someone who does have that idea, launch their digital product and take a commission for it. That's what Julie did, and we're going to interview her today. And thank you. As a pitch woman, she has managed to leave her traditional job to be able to create something that does not depend on her time. And in this live broadcast, you will see the steps she has taken so that you, who are there on the other side, can replicate it. In the end, the point of all this is. And when we talk about digital products, people say, hey, but how are they going to pay me for what I know? And you don't really get paid for what you know. You get paid for what you do with what you know. And that's where the problem comes in. Because there are very good people working for other people's dreams who have settled for a salary and are wasting their full potential. And in the end, life is a constant decision between what's comfortable and what's convenient. What's comfortable. Hey, maybe I can keep that job with my final monthly salary of €1,000. €1,500. Well, it's what suits you. And only you know that answer. No one else. And I do these live broadcasts so that you can see that you can create a digital business from scratch that doesn't depend on your time. In many cases it can be a plan B, a way to generate extra money. In many cases, it's plan A. Because what this allows you to do is not depend on a traditional job. Stop having to exchange your time for money. You'll never be able to grow any further. I see Julie over here. Julie, if you're here, you have to select or join the live broadcast you request it. In the meantime. Hello to those who are joining us. Hello to those who will watch it later. As I was saying, for me it is very important, especially in the world we live in, where anyone will promise you anything, to come here and be able to prove it, and to be able to interview normal, ordinary people, flesh and blood, from different parts of the world. Yesterday we interviewed Sonia, who is a psychologist. Today we interviewed Yuli, who is from Argentina, but emigrated to Denmark and was looking for, you know, a traditional job search. And then she realized that in the end she earned more money. But she was in the same place a few days ago. Well, a few months ago. A few days ago I went to my first workplace, which was a Burger King. I started making hamburgers. And I said, how is this possible? There are still the same people in the same place making the same hamburgers, Quote. Why? Because they don't dare to question themselves. Because they don't dare to ask themselves, is this all there is for me? And if you go and interview each and every person who's Working there, they'll tell you, no, no, I want to change. I want to earn more. I want to have more time for myself. I want to have more flexibility. Quote, and if you ask them a second question and say, okay, but what are you willing to do? What are you willing to do differently? Ah, I don't know. It's crazy to think that doing the same thing will get you different results. That's called faith. And that's all well and good and hope, it's great. But you have to understand that what got you here, wherever you are, is not what's going to get you where you want to go. And you have to make decisions. And remember, when you have to make decisions, a duality opens up between what's comfortable and what's convenient. And only you have the answer. No one else. Julie, if you're here, I want to ask you how the hell you've managed to create a digital business from scratch to be able to quit your traditional job to live comfortably in Denmark. Hello.

How are you?

How are you? Donnie, it's great to see you again.

Hey, those. Well, now let's explain this about seeing each other again. Those ergonomic chairs that almost give you a massage, don't they? Yeah, look how I recline and everything backwards. It's just that for those who don't know and have just connected or have just seen Yuli for the first time, um, we. We saw him two days ago there. He's from Denmark, but he came to Spain because I did an event two days ago for people who had well surpassed more than €10,000 with digital products. And, Julie. Well, as it happens, he came here and we spent two days together. Hey, before we get into it, how did you do it? What did you do? All the steps. I want us to go back a step and for you to talk. Lee, before you started your business, right, what did you do? How did you feel? Well, you said it. Well, Donnie, a little while ago, I emigrated looking for the typical job, which is true, right? And right here, in one of the happiest countries in the world with the best lifestyle and all that. Hey, and once I got that job that gave me hemp, but you described it exactly, there was still something missing.

Ah.

My life, my dreams were still in someone else's hands. Because in that job. Oh, sorry to interrupt you. Yuli, in that job, can you explain a little bit what you did? How much did you work? What was the standard for how much you could earn? Okay, well, my last job was in a multinational in human Resources as a recruiter.

Okay.

Which was actually very difficult to get. Before that, I worked for a year and a half in a cookie shop, baking and selling cookies. Yeah. And until I managed to get a professional job, which is the one I'm telling you about. Uh, well, here in Denmark, salaries are much higher, as are the costs of living. But in this last job, I earned around €3,500.

Wow.

Which is really good for here. But for here it's not that high. I still lived well and all that.

Okay. But as I said, I had super flexibility. I had six weeks of vacation a year, which is usually quite a lot. But I continued to follow my dreams. Kept on pause and on pause. And that my freedom wasn't really mine. Hey, how paradoxical, isn't it? Because if you try to think about it and say, hey, from the outside, it looks like I have everything. I have a salary. It's €3,500amonth. I live in Denmark, that is in a country, as you said, one of the happiest countries in the world. I have six weeks, six weeks of vacation a year. And yet I feel like my dreams are evaporating. This reminds me a lot of what I was talking about the other day, right? The person who walks down the street dreams of riding a bike. The person who rides a bike dreams of being able to ride the bus. The person who rides the bus dreams of being able to ride a car. The person who rides a car dreams of being able to fly. The person who rides a plane dreams of being able to fly in a private jet. And you always want more. Prioritize yourself when you are going to put your dreams ahead of someone else's dreams. And it's okay if you don't, but do it from a place of love. From a place of love, I mean, not from a place of fear. I'm not going to stay in this job, even if I don't like it. For fear of not making money, for fear of launching that idea that I have floating around in my head. How was it in your case, Yuli? I mean, you were earning well. We've already seen that you had a good lifestyle. Hey, how did you do it? Or what led you to make that decision to here? Well, Donnie, I always wanted to work for myself, to have my own business. In fact, I studied a lot for that at universities.

None of them taught me how to start a business or make money. So I got to a point where I said, I want the three freedoms that you always talk about. But I couldn't Figure out how to do it. Because as far as I knew these traditional paths, none of them had taught me. In fact, I studied digital marketing and everything. I had never been told what a launch was. No idea.

Wow.

Until, well, I was actually a very vulnerable personal moment. I had just separated from my ex partner alone here in Denmark, and on the only day in my life that I think I scrolled through Instagram, you appeared to me. Okay, hey, what was it? And I want you to be completely honest with me here because of course, I appear to you like many people, right, who are following me. Hey, I'm going to do a challenge where I'm going to teach you how to create a digital business. What's the first thing that comes to mind when you see someone like me talking about digital business after a breakup? It was crazy because I didn't use social media. I used advertising or digital business. But I followed my intuition, which told me, come in and take a look, listen. Listen to this guy and see what he has to say. And so I went in. I was kind of on the fence, right? I said, what's this about? Is it true? Isn't it true? But anyway, I went in and your class was just a few days away. And what really made me say, okay, I'm going to give this Donnie guy a chance was seeing the success stories, right? And listening to the people and seeing that they were real people and such. And, well, one of the testimonies that connected with me was from Vero de Lima. So, well, I attended your class and I said, this is what I was looking for. I didn't know I needed. Look, there's. And. And to revisit this part right here, something very important. And. And many times we focus on what the vehicle is, on how I'm going to achieve it, on what that business idea is. But when you have a big why, as was your case, do I want to have more freedom? Do I want to be able to earn more? The how always comes in some way. But stop worrying about the vehicle and worry about what it is that you want to achieve. As SNC used to say, there is no favorable win for those who do not know where they are going. And that's why we do these live broadcasts for people, especially in our case, right? The vast majority of whom don't know anything about a digital business. They don't know more or less what steps to take. And most importantly, what really gives you confidence is being able to see people like you. I mean, hey, I come from a completely different world than Someone who logged on to Instagram once a day and was still able to create a digital business. And I want to go there and say, you see, I understand an ad from me, you sign up for a challenge and what the next steps are. Well, I joined the community there. Everything. I saw the classes, how he explained exactly what had to be done to be able to do this business online. And I said, I don't really understand what he's talking about, but if this is going to help me do what I want with my time, to work with whoever I want from wherever I want. Also look at this. I'm not even in my country. It's doubly harder for me because it's not the same to try to start an online business from home. Playing at home and doing it as an immigrant. In fact, it's not normal. And not because I'm special, but because if I had stuck to my excuses, I would have had twice as many excuses not to do anything. So I said, I'm going to watch this class. I'm going to learn everything I can. And when I really saw and felt that this was the path that was going to bring me closer to that, I didn't hesitate. Donnie. And I said with fear, I don't know what he's going to tell me later in the incubator, but I'm going to do it now, no matter what. You mentioned something that seems perfect to me, and that is how many times we make excuses. Those thoughts that tell us, hey, you're not going to be able to. You're not going to make it. You don't have time. How, in your case, were you able to silence those thoughts and connect with that deepest part of you? What did you do? Look, here I am. Well, I'm getting a little weedy and all, but if there's one thing that keeps me grounded, it's thinking that I could die tomorrow. And I don't want to get to the last second of my life and think, why didn't I try? So that makes me kick myself in the ass and say, stop the drama, shut this up. Because the only thing it's going to do is delay you. So do you do it now and stop wasting time? Or when you want to try tomorrow, it might be too late. Because I don't believe in this idea that there's always a time. Some things have a time. Not the digital undertaking, perhaps, but our energy, our vitality, all that is a battery that runs out.

And I'm a contrarian. What can I tell you? What made me go against everyone? If they tell me you're an immigrant, you don't speak the local language, how could you possibly think of starting a business? Come on, I'm going to do it. And you were talking about this today. And while before coming here to the live broadcast, I was in the gym training, and there was a squat bar, right? The bar was loaded with weight. And right in front of me there was a huge mirror. And through the mirror I could see this machine where you have to push the weight up the press. I was looking at a. Well, it was a person who was about my age, right? Much more like someone on top with gray straps. And he could weigh, without exaggerating, uh, about 180 kilograms.

180 kilograms of weight that they had to help him to be able to lie down on the press. Oh, my gosh.

And I looked at the gym and all eyes were on this person. He was completely different from the rest. 180 kg. Julie, on a press, no, you couldn't see the press. And it made me realize that when you undertake something very similar, because you are the odd one out, you are the different one, there will even be people who say to you, look, this guy, where is he going? He's crazy. You are the center of attention because when everyone else is doing zigs, you are doing zags. Now time goes by. And the only way to silence all those external voices that project their fears is because when someone tells you, you won't be able to, you're not capable, stop doing that. Why are you doing it? They're not really talking about you, they're talking about their fears that they project onto you. When in a year, a year and a half, two years from now, I see that person and they come through the door 50kg lighter, 40kg lighter. That's when people ask themselves, hey, how the hell did you do it? And this is entrepreneurship. At first they'll look at you strangely, you'll be different, they'll even laugh at you. But later, those who were laughing will ask you how you did it. You've experienced that, Yuli, now that.

Yes, yes, yes. Imagine that when. Well, I started a little over a year ago, many people, perhaps from my environment, because I'm a lawyer by studies, and they saw me there uploading, well, videos on Instagram and promoting my new perfection that. Oh, and you weren't a lawyer or something? And now, a year later, oh, how great you look. You go through life, you travel all the time. What have you done? Well, remember when you Told me that you weren't a lawyer. Oh, you weren't or something. Well, I was doing this and that's how it is.

And that's the importance of the context of the environment. In the end, if you have five friends who are employees, you're going to be the sixth. If you have five friends who go out partying all day, you'll be the sixth. Now, if you have five friends who are entrepreneurs.

You'Re going to talk about the next project.

And there's no more. There's no more Yuli.

And how did you manage to get back to the subject a little bit, right. Enter the incubator even without really knowing what all this is about, how do you start to create your digital business? Well, obviously I went in, I attended all the classes and, well, I really relied on my tutor, David, because I was scared to death. Right. I mean, it wasn't easy to follow the step by step process. As I was saying, I was very emotionally vulnerable and he protected me a lot and supported me. What I did was contact different people to be my experts because I started as a pitchman basically to offer them to make their pitch. And, well, I connected with two people at that time. Okay, I made them a proposal, a presentation. I explained what we were going to do, how we were going to do it.

Okay, the important thing here is that you are starting from scratch because I see that people ask, what is your business? And you entered the incubator and learned how to do the digital launch. You didn't appear in front of the camera, you didn't have an idea. So your mission or your role was to be able to find an expert or that is, someone who had knowledge about a topic that you could launch your digital product on.

Exactly where did you look for them.

On Instagram? My first thing was to turn to, okay, well, let's see, who do I follow that I could first There was a feeling, right? Because the fun of this is also being able to choose who to work with, right? And well, I contacted people from niches, from spaces that interested me. I wrote to them on Instagram, those whose email I got from their networks. I also sent them an email by all possible means. And well, luckily they responded and were interested in hearing from me. What was your goal in the end? Of course, you went knocking on doors and in the end, hey, a matter of mathematics, that is, you knock on doors and one opens. What was your Instagram message that you would send to find that expert or content creator who already had knowledge about something? What was your if you recall, kind of like a hook message, that is. What did you do to grab their attention so they would work with you? Okay. I don't remember the exact message, but it was something like, well, I had known one of them for many years, so I didn't know if she would remember me. Okay. And I simply told her, well, hey, Valeria, my name is so and so. You probably don't even remember me anymore. It's been so many years. But I really see your potential. I love your content. I've been following you on your social media for a long time, and I'm training at the launch incubator, and I think that together we can create something great. So if you tell me your availability for this week, I'd love for you to listen to me for half an hour. Wow. That's something I told her.

Notice that everything is very, very. I mean, very well segmented. Right. That first. Hey, do you have that part of empathy for her? You tell her that you've been following her for a while, that you like her content. Then you talk about how she has a lot of potential. I mean, it's a way of telling her, hey, you're leaving a lot of money and helping a lot of people on the table. You mentioned the launch incubator as a reference, which is true. I mean, in the end, it's something that you have students who can lean on you in the incubator and who have our methodology, and you also offer them a fixed price. Hey, 30 minutes. Hey, what happened in that meeting? Because it was the beginning of everything, right?

Of everything. Well, she responded to my email super quickly. They remembered me after almost seven or eight years. And she said, how.

Hey, 30 minutes. Hey, what happened in that meeting? Because it was the beginning of everything, right?

Of everything. Well, she responded to my email super quickly. They remembered me after almost seven or eight years. And she said, how cool, because I'm thinking about looking for a pitchman. So. Well, we met up and had a zoom meeting. I prepared a personalized presentation for her in Canva with her photos. With her. Well, she's a professional pastry chef.

Tell me a little bit more about herself if you want, so that people have some context. First, how did you know each other? And second, what does she do? She does it.

Okay. That was about eight or nine years ago. I studied cooking and professional pastry in Barcelona, and she was my pastry teacher. Well, we disconnected from life. Many years passed, and I also saw that she was focusing on certain products that stood out from the rest, like macarons these French ones, but with a double filling. Right. Normally, macarons tend to be small, simple and such. But I saw that she was doing certain things. I said. I said, there's potential here, there's potential here. And, well, that's how I was quick, because I was really scared. But I said, look, you eat your fear and talk to her.

And that's it.

Literally, quote. And that's it. And in that meeting, of course, I mean, also for. I mean, I want to imagine you. I don't know, it's been seven or eight years since you met. The first meeting, uh, how did you propose, hey, I want to do the launch. We're going to go for a percentage. How did that meeting go? Well, luckily, to calm my nerves and since I had the presentation first, I told her a little bit about why we were there, right? That I was in the incubator, that I was learning how to do lunches, and that I saw that she had to. In addition, she was already selling online courses, but she was leaving a lot of money on the table because her launches were not well structured, because she sold very cheaply, her prices were super low. And I saw that she was constantly launching new things instead of focusing on one thing and making it bigger and bigger. So I explained all this to her in the meeting, that she could really reach many more people simply by copying and pasting the same thing every so often instead of having to think of new things every month. So I explained to her that I would create a group online course where she would mentor and replicate it every three months. The billing would be much higher, and it would also save a lot more time because you simply record the course once and forget about it. So I suggested doing this. And, well, at that time, it was a 50% increase in advertising investment and also in profits.

Right? And there. I mean, then, of course, in that meeting, you put it on the table. You know, hey, I'm going to help you launch your digital product. You take charge of creating it. I'll take care of launching it, or the whole part of how to sell it, and you take care of creating the product. Right. In the end, you're in charge of how we sell it, and she's in charge of what we sell. How does she say, yes, sign in that meeting or tell you she'll think about it? How does that relationship go?

Well, with her, it was really easy because she liked the proposal. She closed it and said, come on, when do we start? So, well, I used the contract template that they gave us. Well, with her it was really easy because she liked the proposal. She closed it and said, come on, when do we start? Ah, so. Well, I used the contract template that they gave us in the incubator. I send it to them, we signed it, and I don't know, the other day or two days later in the incubator, I send it to them, we signed it, and I don't know, the other day or two days later, we were already working and. And in a matter of almost two months, less than two months, we were already launching.

I mean, from the moment you signed the contract, two months and you're already launching. How was it the first time? Because of course, it's the first time you've launched a digital product. Do you remember what the promise was? I mean, what exactly did the digital course promise? Um, it was something like create your. Oh, let me think about it. I don't remember, because we've changed the promise a little bit.

Well, a little bit more about what it did in it. Exactly how to create your. We were already working and. And in a matter of almost two months, less than two months, we were already launching.

I mean, from the moment you signed the contract, two months and you're already launching. How was it the first time?

Because of course, your business, by making double macarons to earn more money and become, what do you say, a reference. Why? Because being a new and premium product has a huge profitability, right? And there are very few people who do it. And I love that because you just touched on something super important. Right, Here is the first. And for all the people who are watching us, the most important point that she, or in this case Valeria, had achieved. One, she is very good with the.

Subject of macarons, and two, she had managed to create a digital business around macarons. So of course she had two options. Well, I teach other people how to make macarons or I teach other people how to create a digital macaron business. And you have option one and option two, what happens that you will be paid based on the problem you are able to solve. Teaching someone to make macarons is not the same as changing someone's life with.

Macarons, after all, because it was not just about making recipes, because for that there is already YouTube and everything else that is out there. They mastered the technique, point 1. But the rest is building a profitable business around that in three months. I mean, hey, how much was the price of the. You're talking about a premium product. How much did the course cost? More or less? Well, look, When I got to her, she was selling for less than €300. Less than €300. I convinced her to sell for €797 in the first edition. €797. The second, because. Well, then a second, uh, at €1197. And we're preparing the third one and. Well, it will go up.

It will continue to go up. Hey, how many sales did you have in the first one that won at 797 Euros. Do you remember?

Uh, something like 22. 20. A little bit.

What was it?

Yes, super good. What was the feeling for you at first? I mean, when you come. Damn. In the end, you're constantly working for someone else's dreams, whether as a lawyer or human resources, or even making cookies. You always made money at someone else's expense. And now, knowing that what you've applied has made you generate money, how did you feel? Yuli? It was crazy to say. And I achieved this in three months. And I've spent my whole life trying to do this, studying, which in fact will be a year now on July 7th of this launch. And I have, as if it were yesterday, that feeling of being in bed with my phone, going to sleep. And notifications of sales. Sales came in and I grabbed my head and said, I can't believe it. Cry. I was literally crying. I was crying. And I showed my family from a distance. I can't believe that in three days. And it's not just the billing, it's what I had left over from my profit. It was two months salary in two. Three. Two, three days on something that I learned to do in three months. I mean, I thought, I swear I thought, what have I been playing at all these years of my life? Well, but anyway, I'm grateful to have found this game that does work. And when. Well, let's start with the feelings of your expert in this case, who is completely unfamiliar with the methodology. And you, hey, well, you made an effort to make her. Hey, you're spending a lot of money and helping a lot of people because.

You'Re not creating a digital product. You launch the digital product, you have these 21 sales. But how does she feel, your expert?

Well, the same. Although at the beginning, well, she always did everything herself. It was hard for her to delegate and, And. But until Hu said, okay, okay, it's with the incubator. It's something that has support, that is super proven, that I'm going to trust. He gave me all that responsibility. And first of all, imagine selling at less than €300 to almost €800. You, you know, saying, wow, I can really sell at this price. She realized and broke those beliefs she had that no one is going to buy something so expensive from me. To say, hey, I've invoiced with you at a launch, something I haven't done in four years. Four years that I've been on my own, although I've done different types of launches and such, but not one like this. Wow. So when she first internally she felt, let me tell you what I mean, super empowered. And that fear she had of going above €300, that now I've seen her, well, at the event with you two days ago and she's unstoppable. I mean, it's not just about the money and such. It's about personal growth, about stopping giving away your knowledge. Whether it's a little or a lot, it doesn't matter. About stopping giving away what's valuable, the transformation that you can offer to others and not being afraid because you know that it helps. That's priceless. It's priceless. It's priceless. You said it. And Julie, you mentioned that you did a first launch. Of course, the good part is already you've done the first one and you're going for a second one. Because it's exactly the same with improvements, you raise the price. How many people came in there? Here we had fewer sales, but a much more qualified client came in much better. Because at the beginning, perhaps more people came to Mateus or who didn't have a pastry shop there. We adjusted the message and now we reach professional pastry chefs. So, well, imagine a price increase there. It was even more business oriented and There were around 12 or 13 sales, but with such satisfaction, such a user experience that, well, we still have places closed since October. And when are you going to open top macaroni? And when are you going to open top macaroni? R Because the girls are delighted. And in fact, the students have also had such growth, such exposure that now people ask the students when the next program is going to open. It's incredible. Hey, you know, and well, if we.

Leave it here so that if anyone wants to ask something, they can do it now, because we're going to cut it short. But I couldn't leave without asking you first. Yuli, is all this revenue going well? I mean, it's. It's like you said, a fortune in two days. You generate the same in two months. It's incredible. But how would you say your life has changed for someone like you, having learned about this opportunity that exists with the issue of launches of digital products, of being able to create a digital business, how would you say your life has changed?

It's not just a little bit. It's changed my whole life, Donnie. Before I started, I knew that one day I would achieve it, but I saw it so far away, and finding the incubator and everything that it brought three months later, already having the business not only opened my mind to say, I can do this, to not be afraid, because there's also. There's no imposter syndrome, but you don't have that much experience launching, doing it the same. On a practical level, how did my life change that? Every 20 days, I travel wherever I want and I take my laptop and I work from anywhere. Ah.

Because before that, of course, with the job you had, you couldn't do it.

And, you know, asking your boss for permission to see if he's okay with it, if he lets you, if he doesn't. Um, now a trip comes up and I feel like it. Okay, I have to do something. Yeah, come on. No problem. I'll take my computer. That's it. Uh, what else happens? I wake up in the first few hours of the day are for me. And before, there was no time to take care of myself. If I had time left over, I could focus on what I needed. Now it's the other way around. My day starts and I take care of myself, and then comes work, and then comes everything else that has to come. Uh, because it's no longer the digital business as such, as a way of earning income or traveling or whatever.

First. It's the first time you've launched a digital product. Do you remember what the promise was?

It's a way of putting yourself first in your life, of prioritizing yourself and adapting it to you, not of you adapting to the job or the business. And to. That's the most important thing for me.

I think I explained it very well. We spend Monday through Friday waiting for the weekend to arrive instead of building a life that we don't need to escape from, as you said. Now I wake up and the first hours of the day are for me. I am the priority in my life. It's not a job that I go to that I often don't even like. Absolutely. It's even crazy because in just six months since I left that dependent job and dedicated myself solely to this, to myself, I've already built that daily routine. Even now, on my last trip, I've been away for 17 days and I couldn't wait to get back Home to my routine. Because I now have a life that I don't want to run away from. I don't need to escape. I don't have to make up excuses to breathe anymore. Oh.

And everything has been good thanks to the incubator to you. Otherwise I think I'll keep waiting, dreaming. I don't know.

I think you would have achieved it maybe more late, huh? But you would have achieved it because your commitment has also been brutal. I mean, here I also have a credit for perseverance and being very clear about what that. Why is that you have addressed. And finally, I want to ask you a question. But first answer the one that Gaba asked, which I find very interesting. And it is. Hey, all businesses, right? All digital products have to be about teaching how to do business, right? I mean, yesterday, for example, I interviewed Sonia, who has managed to create a digital business in the psychology niche and generates more than €70,000. Or tomorrow I will interview Jesse, who is in the personal development niche. And none of them promise you that you will earn more or have more money, right?

So not necessarily.

Not at all.

In fact. Well, my area of expertise is in personal development, in helping other women learn to prioritize themselves and put themselves first in order to have a more authentic life. I don't teach them. My promise is not money. Of course, in the end, it's very varied. And finally, Yuli, I want to ask you, what advice would you give to someone who wants to start in the digital world but has like you did, excuses like I don't know if now is the best time, I don't know if I'm going to be able to, etc. Okay, it may sound a bit cliche, but that whole best time or not the right time thing will never happen if you approach it from a perspective of fear, worry or negative emotions, right? On the other hand, if you're also looking for quick results, that happens a lot. If what's on your mind is to get something now. On the other hand, when your vision is long term, that's not going to invade you. So what would you say? Do it with a long term vision in which you're going to work hard every day so that the future that's coming is the result of the decisions you make each day. So if you choose to commit to your project and be disciplined every day, that's inevitably going to happen. Arrive, but only in the long term. I think you explained it perfectly. We have such a short term mindset. Everything is so fast here and now, and then we've spent five years in a job that we don't like.

What can I say? Thank you, really, Yuli, for being here, for opening up, for being able to share your experience, which I know is very important. Just as it was, well, other experiences that you back in the day saw and were also behind the screen. You might have thought, hey, I hope one day I can be there behind the scenes and have Donnie interview me. And in the end, that day arrives and you're ready for it to come. So congratulations. Thanks to you, Yuri, and thanks to everyone who was there. It was a pleasure.

Thank you very much. And we'll see you soon.

Yes. By the way, the team is asking me, can you write the word freedom here so you can sign up for next week's event?

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July 7, 8 and 9, the Living from the Internet Challenge will take place where we're going to teach in depth how to create a digital product, how to do a digital launch, and all these types of things that we're talking about now. So a hug, thanks and we'll see you very soon. Bye.

Goodbye. Thanks. Yeah.