Dave WordenTriumph Business Solutions · Founder

Master Public Speaking: Top 4 Resources

8 Aug 2026 · 1 min

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In this interview, an experienced keynote speaker (Speaker B) discusses his long‑standing career and outlines four key resources for mastering public speaking. He credits an early Dale Carnegie public‑speaking class for his foundation, recommends Michael Port’s Heroic Public Speaking program as a high‑quality but pricey option, emphasizes the value of hiring a personal speech coach (specifically John Bates, who works intensively on crafting and refining presentations), and suggests joining Toastmasters for low‑cost, regular practice. The interviewer (Speaker A) probes the cost considerations, especially regarding Toastmasters, highlighting the economic aspect of choosing among these resources.

You've been a keynote speaker for a long time. How long actually has it been?
Well, since the first book, plus 2 years prior. So I started talking about toilet paper entrepreneur before I had the book out there. I knew the importance of it early on, and I went to a class by Dale Carnegie, the organization, on public speaking. I'll tell you, that's an extraordinary resource. It still exists today. Let me actually bullet point a few resources here. Go to Dale Carnegie's public speaking course if you've never spoke before. It really kind of throws you into it. Michael Port's organization, which is Heroic Public Speaking, is unequivocally the highest quality class environment you can go through. It's expensive and gosh, it's worth every single stinking penny. Get a personal coach. I work with John Bates. What I'll do with John Bates is I'll work on crafting a new presentation. He's in Salt Lake City. I'll fly out to Salt Lake City and we'll spend a day or two crafting a speech. And now I'm performing in front of one person and he'll even come out to where I'm speaking, observe, and at the end he'll say, don't do this, do that, and give great tips. You can also join like Toastmasters.
So if economics are a concern, if the price of Toastmasters is very inexpensive and you're doing a speech every single meeting,