The Bloggers Guide to Using Google+ Effectively - Google Local

Hey there, I'm Chef Dennis Littley, and today we're here for another episode of The Blogger's Guide to Using Google+ Effectively. Of course, you know, that's not just for bloggers. It started out that way, but really, if you're on Google+, everything we're sharing with you is applicable in one way or the other. So we're gonna get right on to this, and it's about Google Local. And you know, even if you're not a business owner, Google Local has a lot of aspects to it. That will help you and aid in your building your trust factor. We're going to talk about that as well. So right now I'm going to turn it over to Jean Layton, and she's going to get us started with Google Local and what you need to know. Hey, Jean.

Good morning, Dennis. How are you?

Very good, thank you.

Yeah, so Google Local is kind of one of those interesting products. When Google first brought brands into the world of Google+, they had a different setup. And then Google Local kind of went on top of that older setup. And when YouTube got involved, everything kind of got a little more complex. And so there are so many people that are just outright confused as to which one of these ways of setting up a business page is the most effective. So in doing my research, please go to the post that I created because at the bottom is a whole series of people's discussion about putting together a business page and which way to choose and which one do you want. I got Martin Shervington's post from his Plus the Business Community. Follow the little strands because there's a ton of information in that post. It's on Wingwoman Productions. It says Google Local. It's today— yesterday's post. Check that out because you're going to need the strands. But what it really comes down to is if you have a business, and yes, your blog counts, and there's any possibility that you will see somebody in real life for your business, you want to open your business page as a Google Local page because it opens up this world of extra tools that you want. If you have a brick-and-mortar store, it's really obvious. You have to have a Google Local page because you get the map pinpoint on Google Maps. You get the ability to have people review your business. And best part of all, it's not like Yelp. When people do a review on Google+, they have to claim the review. In other words, they can't sign in as anonymous and then leave you a nasty review. They have to at least say, "Well, I'm Peter Smith and this is what I had happen at this restaurant or at this boutique or whatever." Even if all your business location is is the farmers market, claim it as a Google Local. You do not have to give out your address.. I'll walk you through the steps of that. You do not have to say my home is blah blah blah and that's my business address. That's not part of the situation. I don't think anybody has any questions quite this yet, so I am going to go into a screen share from that post. Dennis, you have a question?

No, I'm good.

We're good.

Nothing there.

I'm going to go into a screen share.

There's a comment about your haircut. Roxanne Davenport likes your haircut.

Thank you, Roxanne. I put up a selfie last week because I got a new haircut going to Natural Products Expo West, which starts up for me on Wednesday. Which means next Monday I'm actually going to be doing this show from California instead of Washington. Woohoo! Anyway, to start up your page, it's very much like— I already did a pages show with Chef Dennis Littley. 3 weeks ago, 4 weeks ago. It's starting up just like a regular page. You sign into Google, you click on Pages, and then you hit Create a Page. This is the point where everything separates from that other post. You want to say Local Business or Place. Sorry for the big Pinterest button, but I have an automatic poster button there. You want to enter your name. Or the address of your business to see if it will fall in the dropdown. Do not skip this step because if you're already in Google's understanding, if you already have claimed your business on Google and it could have been years ago, you want to have that tied to your new business page. So put in your business address put in your business name, and if you've moved your business in the last decade, put in the old addresses too. What I discovered with my husband and my medical practice, our medical practice moved a year ago and we moved 4 years ago. We had Google listings under the 4 years ago address. I had to go back and correct all of those because of course in the search engine world everything lives forever. Double check. Run through all your older addresses just to make sure. You're going to enter that right in this box with the blue magnifying glass. Then it'll come up if you have it. If you don't see your business or it's the first time you're creating it, then you click on "No, these are not my businesses" or "I have correctly entered the business name and address." And then you get this window of all the business details. Now, with search engine optimization, you want to be able to put as much as you possibly can into this listing because this is what comes up When you do a, I'd like to find an acupuncturist in Bellingham, this is the information that's going to pop up with your listing. So make it clear and make sure that you do things like claim your business location. So I live in Bellingham, Washington. My business has to say something about Bellingham. And you can do just one descriptor. Bellingham for me is essential. But if you want to have a descriptor that's like the best or number one, Google will not allow that to go through. It has to be your real-world business title, business name, and a geographic descriptor. You're entering all that. It asks for your phone number. And then here's how you make sure if you have a business that's operating out of your home, here's how you hide your address. You click on this box and I blew it up so that you really can't miss it. I deliver goods and services to my customers at their location. It's kind of non-intuitive, but what this does is it says, "I deliver," instead of, "People come to me." So if you work out of the farmers market in your community, this is where you would say, I deliver goods and services at their location. The location you're gonna use is, of course, the farmers market. But you don't actually have to give another address. You just tell them a range. And so you can also check off, I serve customers at my business address, so it'll list both. But you give it a range, and you can say up to 50 miles, I believe, is the biggest circle, so it'll allow that geographic area. And if you choose that, no address goes along with the post. And then here comes the part that drives everybody nuts. Once you've entered all this information, it has to be verified. And one way they verify is by postcard. They actually put something into the snail mail and mail it to you with a PIN number. Option A, because that way it'll confirm their, the address. Option B is verify by phone and have a PIN number sent via automated message, but the phone number you're using has to be a business listing. In other words, can't be to your cell phone, can't be to your home phone, has to be to a business phone, and you have to actually be on the business phone. In other words, when you say yes, you have to be sitting by that business phone, able to pick it up, take PIN number, and then enter it. It's a very short time frame of ability to be used, I think within 20 minutes or something like that. So it's not the kind of thing you can do on the weekend at home from your home office and then set up the rest of it on Monday. That cannot happen. So especially like I do this setup for other businesses, I always use the postcard method because then they can hang on to it till I can get back and get them set up. But otherwise I have to be physically sitting in their office, which is a royal pain in the tuchus, but that's the way Google does it. And then here's how you hide it. I've got another posting. And then congratulations, you have a Google+ page, which is great, but it's blank, just like your profile was blank when you first started. It allows you to connect your Google Local page with your customers. And you want to change your identity, it reminds you that once you say yes, you are now posting on Google+ as your page. And everything you are going to do from this point on as your page. So it reminds you to switch back to your profile if you don't want to be talking about your page. And then, actually, I'm going to come off of the screen share for now, Chef, and see if we have any questions, because that's the basic setup of Google+ locally.

We do have one question here, and I'll put it up from Friedel Richardson. "Could Jeanne please elaborate or give examples about single descriptor within the business name that she mentions in the post?" Okay, it allows you to tell a location or a category.

So if you are running a gluten-free bakery in Bellingham, Washington— I wish, please come, come, make me happy. You could use as your single word descriptor either gluten-free, with a hyphen it's one word, or Bellingham, or bakery. But some of that is likely included in your business name. So if you run, you know, Sweet Sue's Gluten-Free Bakery, then the single descriptor you want to choose is Bellingham, which is missing in your name. If you run a restaurant, you know, like we have a table— we have a restaurant here in Bellingham called The Table. They want to use Bellingham because I'm sure there are other states and cities that have a restaurant called The Table. But they also use local food. They source completely within Whatcom County or 90% within Whatcom County. So they may want to say locally sourced. I guess that's two words, but somehow that gets through. The thing you cannot do is make a judgment call. You cannot say best, you cannot say number one, you cannot say premium, you cannot do anything that makes a judgment call based on your business. I hope that's clear enough.

Well, she did ask again, part of that question was, so in our case we could add lawyers or attorneys. Can this be added on the existing page?

Okay, Friedel, I am guessing that you are an attorney. Typically an attorney uses initials after their name. What is it, JD, Juris Doctor? Depends on what country you're in, I guess. But here in the States, you'd be a JD, and that would be part of your title. So yes, you should be able to say attorneys because that's a descriptor and not a judgment. Yes.

Would they list what kind of attorney then? Would that be— I wonder if they could get away with that.

They would probably. I mean, if you're a family law attorney or divorce attorney or consumer product attorney, I would bet you could at least try. The problem you'll get is if you attempt to say best or premium or first or any of that. Yes, Roxanne, it works the same if you're not-for-profit. You're still in the business area.

Okay, good.

Okay, so here's where people start to get confused because so many people came over from Facebook with that idea that even though I write, I am a business and so all of my work should come out of my business page. So a lot of people got over here to Google+ and automatically opened up a business page. They may or may not have made it local when they did it because that was weird. Facebook doesn't have a local option so it wasn't in the thought process most people had as they came over. So I had one, I had a friend ask, can you blend your pages? Can you take the business page that you created and put your local page together? Because you want to be able to be mapped, you want to be able to have the reviews, you want to be able to combine your work so that your website reference is from your business page and all of these things come out of one One nit place. Well, I'm going to flip back to screen sharing because the answer is good and bad like most things in life. It's not a simple answer. If you started your original page as a local page and now you have two local pages either because Google opened a second one for you or because you didn't realize and you have a page that's connected to your YouTube channel and you want to be able to connect the YouTube channel attached page with the one you opened. People ended up with lots of different pages for lots of different reasons. The one you want to hang on to from a strategy standpoint is if Google gave you a page and it is connected to a YouTube channel and you plan on using Hangouts in any form, any way for your business, hang on to that page because it's already set up for you. And here's the hard part: what you've been putting on any other page needs to go away. So you have to actually repost what you had on your secondary— I'm gonna call it page— onto your primary page, your YouTube-associated page and just repost all the content and then get rid of that first page that you had, that secondary page. Because Google will not blend them for you. You have to do it. And luckily enough for most people, that may be only under 50 posts.. And yeah, it sounds like it's a whole lot of work, but the ability to put it all in one place is completely worth it. So there's some links in my post about how to look at it and what to do, and there's way more things about putting things together. But Ray Hiltz, who is a fabulous SEO guy here on Google Local, put it best for Google+. If you're a product or brand, company, institution or organization, arts, entertainment or sports, or others, your listing will still appear on a Google+ page but won't be verified, meaning you won't have the social networking enhancements unless you're on a Google Local page. So that's the best set of reasons to move all of your content onto your Google Local page that's associated with your YouTube channel. Now I'm sure that will all provoke some questions, but maybe not.

We do have one here from Layla Martin, and he goes, at this time we do everything with our profile, not a G+ page. I've set up a local business page at least 5 years ago on Google. It's not the new verified local page, so I'm confused as to the approach I should take, if any. We are not using a page on G+ for our business at this time till we get more profile juice.

I love the phrase profile juice. That's What I would encourage you to do is get that verified Google Local page for your business set up before you start trying to move your profile juice anywhere. Do the legwork because with that postcard verification, that can take a week and a half to get to you. It is not an instantaneous situation. You are gonna have to give some time to do this. And I think it's a great place for a business to stand back and say, okay, what's our strategy? Why do we want to have our business name out there differently than how we're working in our profile? Because we all understand that over here on Google+, our profile is truly the place that gives us the credibility, gives us the expertise acknowledgement, and it's the best place for us to put all of our work out first from the profile. So it's a time to look at your strategy and go, what's key to put in a business page? You know, for an attorney's office, the only thing I as a client would expect on an attorney office's page is tell me where you're located, what your expertise is, how many lawyers are included within your firm, and maybe a bit of something about fees. Maybe, you know, but I think that's a relative kind of thing. I would not expect to see an attorney's business page talking about the latest restaurant in town. It wouldn't make sense. But I could expect maybe something about the liability of a restaurant that got shut down for norovirus or something similar. That happened in my town. I would love to see a business say— and this is what might be their situation in a vague way. I would not expect too many posts from that page. I would expect to see one post every now and then, not 10 17 posts a day. So for anybody else, you know, this is your time. Reevaluate your marketing strategy. Do you need it to be a business page because you are live and in person with people sometimes, or can your profile handle it all? And you may discover your profile handles it all just fine and you don't have to go and handle one more one more puppy to feed in your social media melange.

Absolutely, you know, unless you are a brick-and-mortar, and that is really when it comes down to being very important to have it so people can leave reviews. And that's really where the second half of this coin is going to come into play, and it's the reviews. Now, for those of you that say, well, why am I watching this then? I don't have a business, I don't need a local page. Well, this is where you're right about that, but if you think you don't need Google Local, you're wrong because Using Google Local as a pluser can help enhance your profile, can help build your trust factor by leaving good, honest reviews on businesses in your area or businesses where you're traveling to. And this will all again help you appear more times on the search engine, more mentions, and you know, it's a win-win for everybody. You're leaving a review for a business, you're helping them both a real person and it's helping you build your authority.

Well, and the other thing to keep in mind is as an Active Pluser, when you leave a review, I can't say that there's a hierarchy, but I'm pretty darn sure if Guy Kawasaki decides that he likes someplace and leaves a review that says, this is the best "Best sandwich I've had in ages and I would definitely make this a place to stop if you're in LA." I can guarantee you that Google is going to make sure that that review shows up in front of everybody who happens to pump in sandwich shop in LA. Because of his place in the world, it will show. That makes a big difference. The other side of it is be sure that you've got the generosity to leave reviews whenever you're traveling. You can review any business. You can review restaurants, you can review nail shops, you can review florists, you can review the bellhops at a hotel if they happen to have a page set up for just the bellhops. Otherwise you're reviewing the hotel. And, and do it because it makes a huge difference. I'm trying— I'm gonna pull up a page. Let me just think for a second who I know has a great local page.

While you're doing that, I have another question too, or comment. Christopher Jennings Penders: What I've started to do, Jean Layton, is I post content to my G+ business page and +1 my personal page name as a way of adding credibility to my personal profile as well as my business. It also ties my business name to my personal profile.

And that's wonderful. That's the way you can get your profile juice to move to your business page. But you still have to go, why am I maintaining a separate entity? Because yes, you can move it that way, but the question underlying it is why? Chef and I go back and forth with people all the time because It's so different a mindset than what's happening on Facebook. And everybody's got that Facebook background, Facebook, Twitter, you know, I've got to do all this as my business name because that's the way their structure is set. Well, here it's all about you, you as an entity, a whole entity. And if you want to talk about, you know, photography and you're working for a company that's Aerospace Metals On Google+, it's absolutely okay to be talking about both aspects from your own personal profile. There is a guy on Google+ who puts out absolutely amazing photos of Chicago every day, morning and night, or I'd say at least 7 times a week. His business is Aerospace Metals and he runs Hangouts as his Assist profile for Aerospace Math. It's okay, we're not one-faceted people here. We are multifaceted and some of those facets are big, so go for it.

And it also shows Google that you are a more in-depth person and it adds again to your trust factor. We keep bringing this up about trust factor and your authority. Okay, it's not gonna hurt your authority. You know, if you're vague, if you don't talk about any one subject enough, it might, but as long as there is a main emphasis input of what you're doing, it won't. And Michael Bennett has actually started his own photography page now because he grew so much and his pictures were so wildly popular. He just— he wasn't seeing the benefit of leaving it there, so he started his own page. It wasn't because it wasn't working.

No, not at all. So, um, yeah, I'm— here's where I get into situations. I don't want to shout out a business without having asked if it's okay. I don't really want to pull out— I was going to bring out my husband's business which is a little acupuncture— not little, Dennis Littley, but it's an acupuncture clinic and people have given him reviews for acupuncture in Bellingham. Because of that, it shows up higher.

And when you leave these reviews, you do not have to have them post to your G+ page. I generally don't because I don't think me reviewing a restaurant in Kissimmee or Orlando or Philadelphia where I was before is really going to apply to the large number of people that might read my page. It's not consistent with what I post. So although it does go to my Google Local listing, it doesn't show up on my general postings when I do it. Just like people, a lot of them will post where they are. You know, if that's what you do and you like doing that on Google Google+. To me, I do that more on Facebook or Twitter, where am I? Because that's more, to me it seems more frivolous. It's not as important. I don't mind telling my friends that I'm out here having dinner, but I wouldn't necessarily post that on Google+.

See, and I never tell anybody where I am. I think Foursquare is the silliest thing ever. It's a stalker app to me. Because if I'm traveling, I'm traveling as a businesswoman alone. You really think I want to tell the world where I am?

Nope.

No. Good point there. And it's interesting because I've never seen a guy have any qualms about checking in anywhere, but most of the women I know are like, are you out of your gourd? I'm not going there.

My sister-in-law constantly checks in where she's eating on Facebook. It's funny and everywhere she is. It's almost like the Twitter commercial where— and I can say this because I know she's not watching this— where the Twitter commercial where the guy leaves one room and goes outside and says, "I am outside now." Sometimes it feels like it gets to that point. Let's hope she's not watching.

Yeah. I have to admit when I'm at a conference, I will let people know I'm at a conference. Wednesday I'm going to be at Natural Products Expo West. I also know it is a 5-foot-ballfield-big location. So you want to try and find me, good luck. But I'm also a New Yorker. I was born and raised outside New York City and I had all those things pushed into my brain early on. You don't tell people where you are at the time you're there because that means you're not at home, you're not near your car. You know, you don't need to tell the bad guys all that stuff.

And there have been many instances of that happening with people knowing you, finding out you were on vacation. You know, they always do those commercials for home security systems with that. Here's a comment, a question from Rain. If you delete a G+ business page, does it automatically delete the YouTube channel?

Does not. And that's where you can get into complexities. That's why I said if you have a channel, a business page that's connected to a YouTube channel, keep that one and get rid of everything else. Because if your goal is to have video at all or Hangouts at all, then let Google+ help you. Save that one, get rid of everything else. And yes, it is really, really, really hard.

And here's a comment from Jimmy Lanley: I've been trying to do more, be more deliberate about leaving reviews for companies on Google. I've actually gotten one contractor to create a page just so I could leave a review. That's great.

Yeah, and that's the thing is we can be the best advocates for some of these incredibly small or solopreneur businesses If we can encourage them to create the page so that we can say, "This guy is fabulous and everybody who lives here should use him," think of what that does to their business. It also tells them how social media really works. It's the old-fashioned word of mouth in an electronic form. I always want those small people to be able to have the business that they really want.

Absolutely. It's a great way to do it because you're not anonymous. One of the things people hate about Yelp is how it can get vicious and how it can really hurt business, small businesses, because of these negative comments that are made. And I'm not telling you have to give everybody a positive review. I certainly don't. You know, I tell it like it is, whether I love it or I hate it. But, you know, it's not like you're trying to shut a business down either. You know, it's got to be constructive.

Yeah. Lila has another one. "I'm still confused about all the darn Google pages. We ended up with 2 YouTube Google pages and we got rid of one. Reviews are showing up on the Google Local page I currently have, so then I'm thinking my only thing I need to do is verify. Then it's good, but I don't have to use it for our activity on Google+." Yes, exactly. Verify it, have it be your official page. Then use it strategically. It is not— frequency from a business page I think can be very different than frequency from a profile. Like I said, to me a business page is curating information that a general user wants easily accessible.

Yes.

Tell me where your business is, tell me when the sales are happening. Tell me something like right now, the local store that I love to go get my plants, Joe's Garden is opening today. Am I excited? Can you tell? I want to know that. I want to know which plant seedlings they have in stock this week. Great information for a Google+ page. Do I need to know everything else?

No.

So I'm going to take that one out. Thanks, Kirsten. Kirsten said, "Word, Jean Layton, about Foursquare." I've never understood it.

I don't either, but I use it sometimes only because then I can push content somewhere else. But if I have the phone out, it'll pop up, "You were here. Do you have anything to say?" "Yeah, the food was great," or a picture. But again, not on a usual basis. You're absolutely right, guys don't have that. Mentality where we're gonna look around to see who might actually be seeing it. Now, you know, there's, there's more things coming our way that will do that and kind of invade our privacy a little bit. There was a traveling, a road app that I didn't really care for, but it told you who was like near you on the road if you had registered. What people that you might not even know.

Oh, you mean Waze?

Waze, yeah.

Yeah, I love Waze.

Do you? I thought that was just—

I'm anonymous on Waze.

Okay.

So you know, you'll see a little image of a car for MyCar, but it's not connected to any of my social media networks at all. And it's a game. So for anybody who doesn't know this app, it's a game. You know, like you get to nibble on— it's like Pac-Man, I guess. You get to nibble on little power pellets as you go down highways and stuff. But it is one of the best instructions to get someplace. It's kind of like a GPS but it gives you turn-by-turn audially and I love it. But I'm anonymous.

I like how it gave you where the accidents were, where the police were too. Because you get points if you tell somebody where they are, you get points. It was how you— it was part of the game too.

It's part of the game too. And it tells you where there's slowdowns, it tells you where there's red light cameras, it tells you all sorts of things and you can help them correct the maps. So like we were in St. Louis for a wedding and they had road construction that wasn't on the map and of course we were sent right through the road construction. And so I changed the map and realized that when we went back 2 days later, the change was in their program. So they didn't send us through the road construction again. Crowdsourcing.

Here's a thank you from Layla. She finally gets it.

Yay!

Excellent. And Connie has asked a question. So as a food blogger, are you suggesting all of my posts, recipes, comments on others' posts should be posted on my profile? What then goes on my business page and when and how?

Okay, so Connie, I'm gonna restate this because it seems to have a couple of sections, so All of my suggestions, or we should be suggesting, all of your posts, recipes, and comments on other people's posts. Okay, those are 3 very distinctive things. All of your posts absolutely should be on your profile and probably stay there. All of your recipes should come from your profile and then be repinned or reshared onto your business page, and comments on others' posts should just be on your profile and stay there because they're not relevant to your business. Is that— Dennis, you agree?

Yeah, I agree with that. And you know, again, it's going back to the, the Facebook mentality, which has been very, very difficult to overcome. You know, it's no one's fault except what we have been taught was the way. When it really wasn't the real way, you know. You want to become yourself, and as we keep stressing and telling everyone, you know, you are the most important part of this, so things need to come from you. And food bloggers, you know, we are a business, and I keep saying this, I never want to say we're not, you know, I'm a food blogger, but we're not that kind of business or brand. We just really aren't. You know, we, we are a whole different type of entity. A lot of times people— and you can find something to contradict everything we say just like in the real world with everything. One person gets their experts, another person will get their experts, and you never really know the truth. It's what you believe in. We're telling you what we believe to be the truth, and there are people that will say exactly the opposite. It may be true for them because they're a different kind of blogger or the different kind of business. But food bloggers are just a— it's almost cut out, it's a whole different type of entity. And what works for us works different than what might work for a car blogger or for a software blogger where they're not really concerned as much about that person as a person, just because of the tech side of it. But we're people-oriented. We are a person. We provide a service that is very personal. When we provide something that personal, you want to know there's a real person there that you can talk to and interact with. That's why I think it's important that we interact as a profile.

That's why when I write these posts, every single one of my posts has got a whole set of references. A, because I learn from everyone else. I want other people to learn from other sources as well. And the folks I'm referring out to typically are the ones who've been here longer than I have, and they're people I've learned from, or they're newbies and they've brought this amazing amount of information from their prior social media world, wherever that was, and they can synopsize it and push it out in a different way here. So please click through all those links, go meet all those people, circle them if you're new, because the folks that I'm referring to are the ones that consistently put out information that helps. So, um, we had a couple of posts in here from William Rock, and yes, William, you are absolutely correct. To me, Yelp is an unfiltered stream of unmoderated and unverified comments, and they can be incredibly cruel to businesses. And you're never sure if the person who's posting that negative review is your competitor or not. So I have no real high opinion of Yelp either. I think that it has to have more honesty, and it's not.

And I think the name speaks for itself. What do you do when Someone hurts you, Yelp, you Yelp. It's not a helping thing, it's not something you're going to do. They even named it that.

That's the thing about a Google+ review. You have to sign in as a profile in order to leave a review. Anonymity, there are spammer profiles. We all know them. They tend to have little blue heads. You ignore the blue heads. If you haven't yet changed your profile picture and you're here as an honest-to-gosh human being, change your profile picture. Because if I see a blue head, I don't follow them. I disregard everything they're saying completely. And for me, if your background on your profile is still that rainbow falling thing, I'm not following you either. It's like change the two pictures. It doesn't take more than 5 minutes.

And put some information in there too. It doesn't take that long, even if you copy and paste it from somewhere. And the other thing, there's one thing that bugs me, and I hope I didn't check your profile to see if it's on there, is when someone talks about themselves in more of the third person.

I don't think mine's third person anymore. I think it was at one point, but—

But that I really don't—

I think it says something along the lines— mine, I think it says something along the lines of, I'm a gluten-free doctor with I have twins and yeah, I'm busy.

That's fine, but the one says, you know, when they talk about, they refer to them as like they're just telling a story about the person. Well, again, it makes me think that you didn't write this intro, that someone wrote it for you, so maybe I'm not engaging with the person, I might be engaging with their agent, which is more than likely not true. But, you know, so write it as it's coming from you, from your mouth. You know, I'm not from New Jersey but I lived there long enough to know that I want to hear it. You know, I know a guy that knows a guy, you know, kind of thing.

You're from the wrong end of Jersey. No, I'm sorry.

South Jersey, yeah, we didn't talk like that at all in South Jersey. We were more Pineys down there.

I'm from way north New Jersey, like commuting to New York for daily work was what my neighborhood did. Everybody hopped the bus into Manhattan. We've gone overtime yet again. Sorry about that, guys. If you don't like it, you're always allowed to go. But next week, just so you know, since I'm coming to this show from Anaheim, I'm actually going to have to hop on a plane fairly quickly after the show. So next week will be held to half an hour. We're going to be talking about the Google+ blogger interaction. So if you're a new blogger and you're wondering, do I really have to do everything on WordPress? Um, the answer is no, you don't. And there's a lot of good reasons to set yourself up on Blogger, at least to start, and most of them involve the commenting and the interactions between commenting. So we'll be talking about that next week. And, um, so if you have any questions about that interaction, feel free to drop them into, you know, ping me with a question, or you can drop it into the event as soon as we've got it up.

Sounds good. Alright, thank you so much, Jean, and thank you everyone for stopping by to watch us today. And please tell your friends about us. And remember, all of our old shows are available on my YouTube channel and also on Jean's Wingwoman Production site. So go back, and especially her posts, you know, it'll walk you through things step by step, and that's It's really the easiest way to do it. So if you've got friends coming on, new people, send them there to read and to learn. Okay? And we will see you—

Yeah, and if you're still— Go ahead. Sorry, if you're still a bluehead, go read the profile one.

Oh, please. Yes, no more blueheads. Alright, so have a great day and we will see you next week.