Mihail Pautov and a guest debate whether marketing is inherently manipulative. They cite the American Dental Association's early 1900s "squeaky-clean" tooth test, which genuinely improved public health, then contrast it with propaganda that relies on outright lies. The difference comes down to intent and whether a message serves people or exploits them.
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I don't believe all manipulation is bad.
At a point, some marketing lessons are lessons about lies and how to manipulate people.
A lot of marketing is about that.
Or am I wrong about feeling that?
Well, you're right and you're wrong. Okay. It's not all right or wrong. So let's get into it. First of all, what is marketing? Marketing is designed to sell more products, period. It's neither good or bad. It just depends on what we're using it for. I'll give you an example. The American Dental Association, I think in the 1900s, people had horrible oral hygiene. And so like, how do we get people to brush their teeth? Because people are not brushing their teeth. And so the, the marketers and advertisers figured out this thing where they came up with a simple test. I'm sure you know what it means. Are your teeth squeaky clean? Do this test. Take your finger, rub it on your teeth. Does it make that eee sound? If it is, it means it's clean. Otherwise, it's full of plaque or, or things that have caked on your teeth. And so because of this, now we often say, many decades after the campaign has started, oral hygiene is much better. People's health are better. They're living longer. Their breath hopefully smells better. But the The idea is now we think of our teeth. Is it squeaky clean or not?
Mm-hmm.
We can do a little self-check. That's a wonderful way to manipulate people.
Yeah, this is a good, good examples of marketing.
Yes. And there are unfortunately a lot more bad examples of marketing. And when marketing gets into total manipulation, it could be called propaganda. So there's things for public good and there's propaganda, which is lies designed to manipulate people. We can live in that spectrum. Each person decides what is ethical and what isn't. And then we, as the receiver of such messages, determine authentic or inauthentic. Are we being manipulated? Now,
