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10 Oct 2023 · 19 min

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The episode "Bodies Remember What Was Done to Them" examines how the global over‑population panic of the 1960s‑70s spurred India’s state‑run family‑planning program, which employed monetary incentives, coercive sterilizations, and punitive rationing—often targeting poor, Muslim, and Adivasi communities. These tactics, backed by the World Bank, Ford, and Rockefeller foundations, generated deep mistrust of public‑health authorities. The podcast weaves interviews with Dr. Chandrakant Pandav, historian Gyan Prakash, historian Sanjoy Bhattacharya, and public‑health expert Tom Bollyky to show how this legacy of violence hampered the 1970s smallpox eradication campaign. Pandav’s on‑the‑ground strategy—sitting with village leaders, honoring local neem‑leaf practices, using folk songs and drums—demonstrates how culturally respectful engagement can rebuild trust. Bollyky argues that public‑health systems should plan for dysfunction rather than attempt a grand “trust‑rebuilding” agenda, emphasizing kinship networks, local leaders, and media (e.g., soap operas) as tools. The discussion extends to the United States, noting how mistrust, amplified by political polarization and historic events, shaped the COVID‑19 response. The episode concludes with reflections on lessons for future pandemic preparedness and the importance of investing in relational infrastructure over solely biomedical solutions.

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