14. What Your Dentist Isn't Telling You: Oral Health & Whole-Body Wellness with Dr. Blodgett

Welcome to the Wellness Dentist Podcast. Join biological and cosmetic dentist Dr. Katie To as she explores holistic wellness through trending ideas, real stories, and patient experiences. This podcast will inspire you to make healthy lifestyle choices and take charge of your dental wellness. And now your host, the Wellness Dentist, Dr. Katie To.

Welcome to the Wellness Dentist Podcast. I'm Dr. Katie To, and today I have a special guest, super special, not because I fangirl him for a long time, but because he's inspired me to do things and share things on social. Because, you know, we are healthcare providers, we don't like to be on social and camera, but because of what Dr. Kelly Blodgett have done and how he can help so many people spread the word, share the knowledge. And so I have him on today. It's a lot of coordination to get this happening because he's all the way from Oregon and we're here in Texas. But welcome to the show.

Thank you, Katie.

I—

man, I'm so glad to be here.

Yes, thank you. And we both at this conference for biological dentists.

Yes.

What is a better way to reconnect?

I love it. Yeah, I— this is the third year in a row I've come to the IABDM conference and The energy here is really good.

And thank you for contributing because you was giving lecture yesterday. Your classroom was full. People were just—

It was packed, yes. Simplifying ceramic implants, yes. It was a ton of fun and I think that it resonated with a lot of providers who either, you know, are new to it or wanted to have some simplified approaches or people who aren't doing it at all but they're interested.

Yes. And what is a better way to learn from someone doing it daily?

Yes.

Yes. You have one of the most sought-after practices in the country, or in the world, I would say. People are flying from everywhere to see you for this procedure. So can you share with us, how does a patient come in the first appointment? What are you sharing with them that people are surprised or shocked to hear?

Good question. I should preface it. By saying that I have a phenomenal team who just became certified as the whole team with the IABDM as biological dental practice. Very proud of them. They help ensure that the people who come through our front doors resonate with us and that we resonate with them to the best degree that we can. Before they arrive. I think part of what makes the experience at my practice really unique is that our new patients come on Mondays. It's a specific day of the week that we don't do anything on Mondays except meet new patients. Typically it's 5 new patients every Monday, and I have 4 team members who are, I guess you would consider them like the concierge for that 2 to 2.5 hour experience. So that new patient coming in is handheld through the whole experience. Part of what makes it so unique, outside of the fact that like there's no dental stuff going on, it's, you know, they're just there for us to get to know them and them to get to know us, is that we have a dedicated wing of our practice we call it the Wellness Wing, and it's more like a spa. There's nothing dental on that side of the office. It's all like zero gravity chairs and our pulsed electromagnetic field bed and a full body red light, infrared light bed, and that's where the new patient experience starts. So they get to go to an environment that's very settling, and the colors and sounds and smells and everything, it's very spa-like. And the whole point of having it start there is that we want to get to know that human being as a person, not as like a set of dental things to do, fillings, crowns, whatever. We want to know like, why did they choose us? Generally, we have some sense of that before they've arrived, but we want to go deeper and get to know about the feeling and emotion side of what they've experienced that had them choose a unique practice like ours when they could go to any practice they want, you know? And that usually takes 20 to 40 minutes per person where that oral health specialist who's guiding that experience is trying to tease out the whats and the whys for their health journey. And that's, well, and I should then say, then they come over to the dental side where we're gathering the information, you know, all the objective kind of things. When that oral health specialist transitions their story to me in 90 to 120 seconds, you know, like they're distilling it down to here's why they're here, you know, here's who they are, this is what they want to do, this is what we discovered in our process together, this aha moment of like, wow, you know, you really heard me. And that's just such a unique thing in healthcare because most people are not accustomed to feeling heard. More often than not, I would say people's experience is they are talked to, you know. So that's probably the biggest aha that I see And the second thing I would share is, it's kind of a funny thing that people often say after, at the end of their new patient experience before I leave. They say something to this effect like, "I can't believe that I'm like excited to go through this, you know, oral surgery protocol and getting my teeth removed and ceramic implants placed, but I feel hopeful." And you know, you and I appreciate energy. And seeing the world through that lens, the value of feeling hope, being an energy-creating state, means their body actually can heal, as opposed to feeling anger or fear or shame. You cannot heal from that state of energy. That's right. So it's a very intentionally designed process. Now that I'm kind of stepping into the coaching world and helping practices do this, It's been really cool to see other teams that are implementing it in their own style. Some of those people I've coached are here, actually, and I've been able to catch up on how things are going, and it's just so— I mean, I literally got chills today talking to two hygienists about the changes they've made in their practice in the past year as a result of what the work we did a year ago. And it's like I'm getting chills because it's just thrilling for me to hear that they're impacting lives more positively. You know, it's super cool.

What I noticed that you asked me that, you actually answered the next question I'm about to ask you, is you actually now giving back to the community of professional by teaching and coaching. And obviously every time that you go somewhere and people see your name, they're like, I want to learn from, from Dr. Kelly. Here's what I noticed, people didn't know how long it take you to get here. Yeah, it's not an overnight journey, it's not a short journey, it's years or decades. So when did you start the journey to begin with?

Yes, so I'll give you a little bit, a little background. Um, my professionally, I was like, I, you know, in college I was so clear, I'm going to become a psychologist, I'm going to sit in my office in my comfy chair, you know, and talk with people about things that they want to change in their life. And, you know, I came to Christ April of my senior year of college, and I then two weeks later heard God call me to become a dentist and reverse the negative stereotype of dentistry. And I'm like, what on earth is this that I'm hearing in my head? And, uh, that's where it started. So then I had to get into dental school and do all that. But as I came out of dental school and went into residency, and still to this day I continue to think about how do I create more positive experiences for people, which really means they have to become owners of their own health journey, and that means we have to be present to listen to their stories, and that evolution has taken, well, it took me 20 years from when I started my practice to when we actually slowed down enough that we could be present and listen. And that's when we started doing those new patient experiences on Mondays only, you know, because we were trying to see new patients on any day of the week and it was chaotic. And it has since way slowed down the pace of my practice and allowed us to be way more productive, help people. I mean, a lot of times on my Tuesdays I see one person and that's it. But they make massive shifts in their health as a result of our work together. So that's— yeah, it's been a long journey. And I mean, as it relates to communication and social media, quite frankly, like, I was really opposed to starting an Instagram account, but I had team members who kept hounding me because they were watching people feel better, you know, like their achy knee got better, or, you know, their brain fog cleared up or whatever, and they're like, gosh, why don't you start sharing these stories on social media? And like, okay, I'll start it. And it really took off, you know. And I will say the first 2 years were tough because, you know, when I was presenting information about, let's say, hey, I extracted this root canal, I sent the roots in, we found all these microbes in the roots, And this is, that's on the objective side. On the subjective side, this is what the patient shared between when it happened and 2 weeks later at their post-op visit. This is what they shared. And thankfully you can't negate either of those things. A person's truth is their truth and objective information is what it is. And I just kept at it. So I'm like, well, it's, you know, No matter whether you feel like you think root canals are the best thing ever, that's a fine feeling to have, but these facts are what they are.

That's right.

And at the very least, my opinion is, human beings deserve to be properly informed, not only of the benefits, but also of the risks.

Of course.

So that then they can make an informed choice. Otherwise, the idea of informed consent is foolish. It doesn't exist, 'cause we're not actually giving them all of the information.

In a lot of places, we know informed consent is just protecting in terms of legal issues. Right. It's not really giving the patient the information that they can make the best decision for themselves.

Right, right. Well, and I did some research on this probably 5 years ago, 'cause I wanted to write a post about it, looking at what is the acceptable standard of care for informed consent. And what I found was that providers are only legally required to offer options that they consider reasonable and acceptable. So, you know, let's say, uh, well, like, one of the things I was using as an example is women who are pursuing breast augmentation. And, like, they pretty much get the option of, do you want saline or do you want silicone? Nobody talks about you could do fat transfer. Why? And is it legal for them to not share that? Well, apparently it is legal for them to not share that. In my opinion, is that ethical? I don't think so. I think that, you know, all options should be considered. So when a person has a tooth that's bombed out, it's abscessed, not only is the inside of the tooth, you know, infused with microbes, but now the outer portion is too, in the jawbone, and the immune system's activated. I mean, we were trained in dental school like, oh, do a root canal, you know, if it's restorable, do a root canal. It's like, well, have we considered and shared with the patient what the long-term ramifications are of keeping that diseased tooth that will never get better?

And we don't know that person in 5, 10 years what their health condition look like.

Totally right.

And we don't follow up with that because And to be honest, people in America do move around. They also don't see the same provider for a long time. Like in the past, in the past you would have the same dentist for 20 or 30 years. And now people, because of job and opportunity, move around. And so you actually didn't know the consequences or the impact of that service on their body.

Right. I mean, you and I, I'm sure both meet people every week where it's like, boy, I wish I could see through the lens of what things were going, what was going on 10 years ago. Yeah. And that's not that it's impossible to collect the data, it's just very challenging a lot of times.

Yeah. And every provider do different things and is not on the same page. And this is why we love that you're sharing your knowledge because the more people know how you practice and how you reflect on those practices, it's helped them to say, I wanna start out and make sure I talk about everything. Right. The patient deserves to know that. And I can see why people coming to you 'cause your experience so unique. Like, to be honest, I hear so— I visit so many practices, not just in the US but like around the world. But the wellness wing for the new patient, only seeing new patients on Monday so they get your full attention. Because when I talk to my friend in medical, they're like, what do you mean you're doing a hygiene check, an exam, and then you jump in to do your surgery and you jump in to do your new patient? Like, how do you do that? Like, they could not imagine that, right? Because they have a hospital day and they have the office day. But as a dentist, we are surgeon and we also seeing the hygiene exam when a patient come in for recare. And then we also doing new patient. I'm like, no wonder we're so stressed.

It's so much.

And we're not present.

It's so, I mean, I still remember it was—

Trying to keep it straight.

2019, you know, at that time I had 4 full-time hygienists. I had an associate dentist and then me and then 5 assistants. And, you know, we had a full recare program and we were seeing new patients every day of the week. And it was so chaotic, you know, I can still see, like, let's say one of the hygienists has a new patient with her and she's like, "Hey, you know, I'm ready for the new patient exam over here." And Dr. Nish was busy doing something, I was busy doing something, and it's like, this does not work. I totally appreciate the medical model, by the way, of like, We're in to do office care today, consultations and follow-ups, and you're in that energetic space of, let's hope, of being present. Surgery day, totally different, very focused, you know, you're kind of in charge.

And we're doing microsurgery because we need loops and microscope to do things.

Absolutely.

And so it took like, at least the studies show, 20 minutes to get back in the zone.

Yeah.

So can you imagine, sit down and be like, where am I at? Like, what surgery? Like, which part of the tooth do I need to focus on?

I used to hate the, like, you know what, I just need to step out for 15 minutes while, you know, we're gonna let that bleach in your root canal just, you know, ruminate for a while. Like, ridiculous, ridiculous.

But it's not, we talk about wellness, it's not healthy for the provider because we start wearing, say, CGM and BioTrack and we're like, why our heart rate And why is our glucose elevated doing, even though we're not eating anything?

Right.

But because we're so stressed.

Totally.

And that also as a healer, as a provider, it's not good for the patient. 'Cause you are not giving them the good energy because you didn't have it to begin with.

Yeah.

So I love the way that you designed a practice because that's truly in alignment with wellness and your philosophy. And you mentioned your secret sauce is your team.

They're the magic.

I met them and oh my gosh, they all on the same mission. They love each other, they support each other, and I think a lot of biological dentists— we have a lot of dentists listen to the show, and they want to learn more CE, they want to go to more conferences and more courses, but they didn't realize that the person and the team, the people on the team, are what contribute the most to the success.

Absolutely. You know, part of what helped my practice become like a leading, like a beaming light of what biological dentistry can look like was that when I decided to start pursuing this approach, I took my whole— this is 9 years ago— I took my whole team, flew them to Utah to Judson Wall's office, and we were— the weekend was the cavitations and ceramic implants weekend that he does, but I took the whole team. It was 10 of us, and you know, it was a huge expense compared to just taken myself, but by the end of the weekend every team member's head was nodding. They're like, "Yep, I get this. This is the direction. I'm on board." And it was a total turning point for us. And I think about, like, had I just gone by myself, nothing would have changed. That's right. And I do appreciate, like, it's an investment for me to bring the whole team here Fly them to Austin, there's 11 of us, put them up in hotels, buy meals, it's tens of thousands of dollars and a lot of our time. However, what I know is we will go back and be more synergized as a team, be more uplifted by being in the company of other people who love doing this and have built our community. It only has positives. We can always make more money, but how we're investing our time together really matters.

And, uh, we cannot stress that enough. And I know that's why your trainings focus a lot on team, a lot on business knowledge, which is, to be honest, dentists don't get many dental business courses, or how to take care of the patient experience and how to be a leader for the team. Even though they said, I'm not a good leader, yes, then do something about it.

Yeah, yeah. I mean, the reality is that Almost every dentist I've ever met are very coachable, they're very bright, they're very hardworking. So the reality is too, the requirements to get into and graduate from a dental program or medicine or nursing requires little to no humanistic studies. The irony is we are charged with caring for human beings, you know? Yeah. That's where I feel like, or I believe, you know, why did God choose me to play this role in the human experience? I think because I see through a very different lens, you know. I think I'm a pretty good clinician, but I think where my heart shines in connecting with other human beings as patients and connecting with other professionals, helping them to grow what's possible, decrease their stress levels, help them become better leaders and see how simple that can actually be, and make time for their team, 'cause they weren't trained to do that.

They're not, yeah. And we meet dentists where they give their team everything and no boundary, and then they get hurt. And now they said, "Oh, I don't believe in building the team because they leave me." Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right, you hear that all the time. And then there's, the dentist was like, Well, I'm going to play defense, and I'm going to see how much they dedicated. I think both approaches wrong. Communication, you mentioned that, and the resonate, and then the energies, and how you live your life too. They watch you. No matter how you want to show them and teach them, they watch every move, how you be in your practice, how you're outside living your life. Because you can preach all day long about wellness, but you don't practice it. Nobody gonna believe that.

True, yes. It's funny, I was at a meeting, I guess it was last August, with a bunch of other like-minded biological dentists in LA, and we all went and got InBody scans before the meeting. And Dr. Dominik Nischwitz went over each of our InBody scans, and it was such an aha for me to see objectively, here's some health data that I hadn't previously appreciated, and then know that I had community and support buddies who we're all going to help each other make better lifestyle choices, nutritional choices, physical fitness choices. And then we bought an InBody and put it into my practice. Now I'm seeing the same thing with my team where, you know, people used to go out and get a Subway sandwich for lunch are now bringing in, you know, a roasted chicken breast and some sautéed vegetables, and like routinely. And it's really been a cool cultural shift as a team that, you know, as I'm starting to practice this and implement it and give them the tools, then they start to do it as well. It's been a really cool cultural shift for our practice.

I love it when you mention that because our team just went to the Upgrade Lab by Dave Asprey here in town. He has a lab. Yes, yes. And we did the InBody. —and one of our team members was like, I think I need to get back in the gym. You know, it is so powerful. Like, you know, but now we see the number and you have a goal. She's like, oh, this is my visceral fat. This is my body fat percent. I need to work on that. So I love that you mention it and you do so much for your team. Mention the wellness, because the team watching us, what are the 3 non-negotiable daily wellness practices? Because I know everyone out there, including the patients and the provider, was like, what is Dr. Khayat Blodgett doing every day for himself? And it doesn't have to be 3. I know it's more than 3 that you're doing, but what is the top 3 that are non-negotiable for you?

Okay. Number 1 for me is playing music. So I don't have a day where I don't pick up a guitar or a bass or get on my piano or play my drums. It's like that's been a part of my life since I was 5. And geez Louise, I've been playing music 50 years now, you know. It just, I get into this state of like, yes, like I love it. Mostly I pick up an electric guitar. But 2 for me is pulsed electromagnetic field therapy. I had an issue 3 years ago, actually 3 and a half years ago. I seriously thought I was gonna have to give up the practice of dentistry because I had so much neck pain. I had a bike wreck maybe 15 years ago that really screwed up my neck. And it just, all the years of leaning over people was adding up and it's so, oh my gosh, it was so bad. And I discovered PEMF, decided to try a unit, and the next thing you know I'm buying one and using it. Within a month of using that thing on the daily, so I bought it for the practice, but kept it at home for a month. And next thing I know, it's like 3, 4 weeks later, I'm moving my head around no problem, and I'm like, oh my gosh, I have zero pain. I can still feel where the injury is, it just doesn't hurt. So I took that one to the office, and hence bought a second one to have at the house. So I do that on the daily. And probably the other third practice is maintaining a positive, loving relationship with my wife. We have been together and supporting each other through this entire journey since we were 20 years old. We've, you know, built our lives together. And it's funny, I was mentioning to you, she's been away for the last month helping her care for her father. And I'm realizing like how our spirits and energies are entwined. And I'm very blessed and grateful to have her in my life and have the opportunities to constantly practice patience and acceptance too. You know, like that's part of a good marriage is, you know, you're not always gonna get your way, you know, figuring out like how do we cohabitate in a way that is spirit lifting and God honoring and That's definitely a part of my daily wellness is being married to a wonderful, wonderful woman.

We have so many guests on the show and I always ask these questions and we always hear very different perspective and different practices, but the first time I hear someone speak so lovely and wholeheartedly about their spouse, it doesn't mean other guests didn't love their spouse, it's just so nice to hear that from you. Thank you. And my husband and I, we actually just went to a couple retreat a couple months ago, and they was talking about the quantum union, that how, you know, you are taken care of and you're here for a reason and you're there to support each other unconditionally. And, you know, it's not you against me or you and me against the world. It's us together, and then we can help others. So I love that you mentioned that about your wife. It's so beautiful.

We were blessed, oh golly, almost a little more than 5 years ago Julie was not a part of my practice for 20 years, and we had an opportunity for a business manager position 5 years ago, and she came in and, oh my gosh, you know, the first couple years we had a lot of speed bumps to go over and— to calibrate. Yeah, and it's been awesome because we now— she appreciates so much more about what I do and how I see the world and where I have strengths and where I have weaknesses. And, and that's the same for me. And it's been really cool, you know, not to just have our personal life together but to help run this business and elevate it. Like, God's honest truth, since she came in, the functionality in our practice and the systems and the accountability has gone through the roof. She's amazing at that stuff. Oh yeah, she's incredible.

Yeah, grateful for that too. That was very blessed where we have the support, not just from the team but family. And you're absolutely right, no matter how much you share, when they in the practice with us, it's very different, right? Because every day, I don't know any dentist would have the same day happen twice, right? Every single day is a new thing. And I actually love that because I love the variety, and I'm like, I'm ready for challenge. And every new patient walk in is like a new story, right? And we really want to crack the case, we really want to help them and get them journey. And I love the fact that you mentioned about the PEMF because I love that unit too. But a lot of people don't realize that biological dentists, we testing out on ourselves before we said, okay, this is going to help our patient. We may not know exactly how it helps each person, but we know it's going to be beneficial. And that's why we have so many toys.

I know. So many technology. I love that first talk today about photobiomodulation. I bought my first lasers in 2002 and we started doing, you know, cleaving the fibers and stepping back a couple feet, doing photobiomodulation back then. I mean, now we've got a Novathor bed in the wellness wing. It is like, it's heaven over there, you know.

And you can use it on yourself and your team too.

So it is my strongest encouragement to my team members to do so, for sure.

That's definitely a wellness perk because a lot of people are asking us, like, as a wellness practice, like, what are you doing for your team? I said wellness work, you know, all of the things that they have access to and all the knowledge that not only for them, they bring home and helping their family and their friends. So we love that. You have something coming that everyone needs to know about. I've been actually anticipating since last year because we had this conversation. Yes. And telling us about what's coming. Yes, it's a very big release. Thank you.

Yes, I just recently released my first book. It's called Feel Whole Again: Your Humanistic Guide to Healthcare. And certainly the stories in the book are through my lens as a biological dentist, but really the theme of the story is a couple things. One is that there is so much value in the intuition and experience and thoughts and feelings of our patients. Have you ever thought about when you write a a soap note. You know, the— there is supposed to be value in the subjective information, and there's so much that most practitioners don't really tap into. It's like, patient said they had a tooth that hurt, you know, which are like a robot. Yes, it's not— how has this impacted your life? You know, how have you felt as a result of the dental experiences you've had in the past? And write those things down, uh, because The reason that's so important to look at, as I was mentioning earlier, if somebody is functioning from a state of shame or a state of fear in your setting, they can't heal. They're stuck in an energy-stealing state, and you can expect that results will not be great. So as human beings, when people feel acknowledged, heard, Valued, connected. These are all chapters that I write about looking at like feeling states and how they impact health. I encourage people to get a copy. I've had many dentists who read it. Yes. And they're like, how can I get 100 copies? You know, and I'm happy to help all dentists do that.

So we need to have more dental book in our library. We have library in the practice and we have all the books about health and Whole Body and Mouth-Body Connections, but we want books from more biological dentists, and we're encouraging them to start documenting and start writing.

It starts here. For me, it starts in the heart. It starts in connecting with one human being to another. You know, I looked at like, what kind of a book was I wanting to write? I mean, you know, look at like, uh, Mark Breiner's book, Whole Body Dentistry, Dominic Nischwitz's book, uh, Stephen Lin's book about, you know, Dental Diet. Great Great books, like we didn't need another one of those. But I wanted to tap into something that in my experience and opinion is greatly ignored in all healthcare, which is actually being present for people and hearing their story much like a psychologist would so that we can better be present and empathetic for those people that we serve.

Yeah. And patient already trust us because the mouth is such an intimate space. Space that they already trust us. And that's why we always joking around, so we're like, hey, we're like a therapist. Yeah, they're sharing a lot of things and they, they want to get better and they're willing to do it. It's just nobody really take the time to listen. Yeah, so I love that.

That's the flip side is it takes time. It takes time.

That's why you only see one patient a day. That's it. Yeah, so the next thing would be, where can they get the book?

Where can they get the book now? Thank you for asking. So it's on Amazon. You can get Kindle version, you can get a paperback, you can get a hardback, and I just a month ago loaded up to Audible so they can hear my voice, you know, narrating the book. A lot of people learn with that. Yes, the auditory for sure.

Yes, I know a lot of people visual, but a lot of my team members are actually loading up things and listen to podcasts. And they learn much better that way. Yeah, so they can get a copy. Awesome. All right, so if they want to reach out to you, share— I know that you're super famous, but share with everyone again your Instagram handle, your— how did they get in touch with you?

Yeah, so thank you. Uh, my Instagram is @blodgett_dentalcare. Uh, my website is blodgett_dentalcare.com. I have a separate site, uh, that lists all of my coaching things that I do for practices. That is drkellyjblodgett.com.

We're gonna put everything in the show notes for people to look at. Perfect, perfect.

I love going to practices. I've done quite a bit of going to practices for a Friday, Saturday powwow and helping teams. This is not a doctor thing. It is a team thing, to be clear. Helping the doctor to clarify their vision, helping the team to understand that vision, and then allowing the team to support the dentist in the how are we going to accomplish that. Because a lot of— I was just before our talk here, I was talking with a dentist friend of mine, and she's like, "You know, I want to do all these things, but I don't know how." And I'm like, "That's why you have a team." They're gonna have ideas you don't have to think of, and and they'll help support you and uplift you to it. It's like, oh, that's kind of nice. Like, I don't have to bear all the burden.

And they learn better from another instructor as a mentor because a lot of times dentists thinking, I'm gonna go learn, I'm gonna go back and explain everything to my team. Yes. And then some of us maybe not follow through, some of us maybe not experienced enough to show the team, and then we thinking like, my team didn't get it. And then they bring you in and they're like, oh my God, what happened?

Yes, the Uncle John effect, right? Like, Dad said it and they're like, whatever, Dad. But then Uncle John tells you and you're like, You're like, "Oh, I'm in," you know? We see that all the time.

So yeah, I think, I think dentists have to remember that because they may come to the conclusion that my team didn't get it. I show them everything. I come back from the conference. I set up all this thing and they didn't follow through. I'm like, they need to hear from someone else. So take them to the conference or take them to the course or having someone like you come into the office and train.

Yeah. And I would love to share with the listeners, Dr. Judson Wall and I are doing a course together in November at his office. And it's about building your best biological practice. And he and I are polar opposites in terms of how we share information. We did our first one last year and people said it was just so enriching because it was so— It was sold out too. Yeah, it was packed. And we hope it's the same case this year. I love nothing more than seeing other peers, colleagues who want to have less stress in their life, have more joy in their life, you know, make more money, you know, helping more people in, in more meaningful ways. And that's what we see coming out of these, these classes. So it's very exciting. I'm so blessed to get to do this.

And I love that so many biological dentists here that, like, on the same page. That we want to, you know, further the mission of serving the public, but also educating the upcoming or the people that know nothing about biological industry and only think what they hear on social is the full pictures. They don't research or they don't investigate or take CE on that topic, and they just assume that, oh, that's just a terrible idea instead of investigate further. So I love that we're all gathering here at this conference and learn together. And then the patient would love that because like CE, continuing education, is an indication of that provider growing. Yeah. Because information changing so fast. So thank you again for, you know, giving us your precious time today. Oh, it's my pleasure. I love it. Without the time limit, we'll be like here until morning. We just keep sharing. So I love that. And so nice to meet your team in person. Thank you. And we would love to have you back and share more journey because I know you have so many practices. Transform, and people would love to hear those stories, and especially your book. We can't wait to have it. I can't wait to have it in my hand and get your autograph. Oh, absolutely. I'll be sending you one. Yeah, yeah. Thank you so much. We were looking forward to have Dr. Kelly Blodgett come back to our show to give us update on his transformations and his practices he helping. In the meantime, everything will be in the show notes for you, so make sure you follow Blodgett Dental Care on Instagram and then reach out to him and his team if you have any questions. Thank you again. See you next time. Thank you for listening today. Wellness starts in your mouth and includes your entire life. When you understand that, the whole game changes. Come learn more at thewellnessdentist.com. We see you in the next episode, and remember, there is always a reason to smile.