Your Subconscious Is Running Your Body (And You Don't Even Know It) | Dr. Tabatha + Lydia Hatton

I did Weight Watchers. I've done this, I've done that. Why am I having such a difficult time? Well, it's those habits in the subconscious mind.

If you're tired of doing all the right things and still feeling exhausted, stuck in your body and disconnected from God, this podcast is for you. I'm Dr. Tabatha Barber, a triple board certified functional medicine physician, and I help women stop fighting their bodies and start healing them God's way. Let's get into it. Do you know what to eat but still find yourself stress eating, emotionally eating, or sabotaging your health goals over and over again? Yeah, what if the problem isn't lack of discipline, but subconscious patterns you don't even know are running your life? Woo! Today's episode is gonna be fire because we are uncovering hidden beliefs, childhood programming, and emotional triggers that shape your relationship with food, weight, self-worth, all the things, and how renewing your mind may be the missing key to finally healing your body. So if you've ever felt stuck, ashamed, or frustrated with yourself, this conversation is going to set You Free.

It's gonna be so good. I'm so excited.

I am too. And full transparency, this is why women claim they love me is because I tell the truth and I also reveal my struggles. I don't try to hide that I'm a messy Christian, that I'm a hot raging mess. And I might just be a little bit further ahead in my race than some of the women that come into our group. But the truth of it is, like, we're all on this journey, we're all learning and growing and evolving. And renewing our mind has to be a daily practice, right? Absolutely it does, yes. So do you wanna share with everybody what happened in the parking lot yesterday?

I think what happened in the parking lot yesterday was, and I mean, I feel like we're living in such a weird, like we are on the 7th lap of the mission that you and I are on.

Joshua, Caleb.

And it is hard and it is tiring, but for some really wild reason, God brought us together to be partners in this life. Like I have my husband, but I also have my business partner/wife, I feel like sometimes, not in a weird way, but like we are literally like, we are always on the same wavelength. We know when we're supposed to be doing the right things. And I think we had that meeting on Friday together and it just started tapping into something else that we both needed to wrestle with all weekend. And then we just had it out in the parking lot yesterday. And not in a bad way. I'm sure if someone saw us, they were like, what in the actual heck are these two women doing? But for us, like we needed to have it and it was all good stuff. And at the end of the conversation, we were aligned. Yeah. Like we were spiritually aligned. There was things that we needed to work through and we were getting ready to walk away. And I said to you that I knew you weren't done. Like I knew you were not done telling me the whole truth. And so you had to let it go. And I was like, you go home and figure your shit out basically. And so, um, that is what you did. And then why don't you tell them what you kind of realized from all of this?

Yeah. So The truth is that you're gonna self-sabotage your life to whatever limiting beliefs that you hold. And I had this internal conflict going on, this cognitive dissonance of, I know God has called me to do huge things. Like, Fast to Faith is a movement. It's gonna change the world.

It's bigger than we even know. Right. Like, everything is happening.

That we can fathom. And we had come out of a CPA meeting talking financials, And so, here's reality, and here's the promise that God has shown us. And the faith in between is like believing for that when all you see is this. But the other issue is that I had these limiting beliefs that I'm supposed to be content and happy and just accept my small life and not like want more. That is what— was ingrained into me as a child, like, why are— why can't you just be happy with what you have? And so I had to come to this realization that in order for me to break through, that I do have to get rid of those limiting beliefs, because they keep popping up. And God also revealed to me recently— I said, God, Why do I keep taking my foot off the gas when we have momentum, we gain traction, the women start pouring into Fast to Faith, they're being transformed, like, they're having amazing results. Women are feeling so good in their bodies and they're getting their life back. He's like, because you're afraid to go back into burnout, so you take your foot off the gas because you don't think you can handle that huge wave that's coming, this success. And he's like, "I promise I will never let you burn out again. You have to trust me." And yesterday when we left, he said, "You gotta trust God more. You don't trust him enough." And I was like, "Okay, I hear you, God. I'm not gonna burn myself out because what you are creating is sustainable. You have endless resources. This is not of my own doing, and therefore," I can trust and receive.

Yep. And so I went home and ran our call that we do on Mondays. And one of our coaches led the Lectio Divina yesterday. And she said, what we are doing here is we're going against culture. Like we are, we're counterculturally moving things. And it is really hard to be where we are and have the conversations that we have every single Monday as a group. And it was like just that revelation of like, yep, we are doing it, but it is not gonna be easy. And so it was so cool. So good for me to allow someone else to run the call and to just be there as a person yesterday and hear that because I'm like, okay, thank you, I hear you. And that's why I said to you, like, you've got, we just have to keep trusting. And it is so freaking hard.

So hard. Yeah.

So that brings us to our amazing guest who has helped both of us personally. And so I cannot wait for you to introduce her.

Yeah, it is gonna be a huge honor to have her on the podcast today because We do need to renew our mind. Romans 12:2 is the foundation of Fast to Faith. That is what we're called to do. And God gives us tools, he gives us resources, and he works through people. You guys, you can pray all day, but the solution is gonna come to you in an earthly form from people. And so I'm really excited to have this conversation with Lydia Hatten because she has helped so many women in our Fast to Faith community. And before you judge, because I am gonna say that she's a hypnotherapist, I invite you to ask God to reveal some truths to you through this conversation today and trust that he is speaking through this conversation because I always pray and invite the Holy Spirit in before this podcast that he guides my thoughts, he guides my words in our conversation.

Thank you.

So this is a safe space, and I want you to just be open to the idea that God created our body in an intricately complex way that we are just starting to understand, and the brain and how it functions is a huge part of that. And so we're gonna talk about some science stuff, but we're not gonna get in the giggly wigs, which is your favorite word.

Do not get in the giggles.

We are going to, keep it in a conversation that you can understand and that's going to transform you today, that you can take actions with. So let me sing her praises before I say hi. She actually went to high school locally where we are in Grand Haven, Michigan, but then she went out east and graduated cum laude from Columbia University, earned an MBA from Harvard Business School. She spent her career out in New York City, NBC, doing all of the things over in Boston. Hi. Boston, and then had this huge pivot come COVID, got divorced, got a diagnosis of thyroid cancer, and started doing hypnotherapy on herself to heal. And voilà, here we are. So I want to hear more about that. Welcome.

Oh, thank you, thank you. I am so honored to be here and to have worked with several of The Fast the Faith team, tribe, women who are just going for it. I think, you know, your group has given me so much in terms of being able to understand more of unbelievable God's creation that is this fascinating human species where everyone is unique. Everyone has their own journey. We're all brought here in land at a certain point in time to grow and expand. And so I am just honored. Thank you. I really am grateful. This is such a huge opportunity. And I want to invite anyone who is a little curious about why they get stuck. Why am I sitting here going, why can't I? Oh, that is a subconscious block. And I know I'll follow your lead, but we're going to get into some science of the mind That I actually came into as I was studying hypnotherapy during COVID I found myself on the couch and someone said, "You should take this course. You'd be pretty good at it given your background," having had thyroid cancer and a lot of other crazy things going on in my life. And it absolutely changed me because what it did was it opened a window to the power of the mind and how so much of our thinking, is subconscious, and yet is affecting the way that we live our life. And it doesn't need to be that way. And so for me, you know, as the modern age continues to lift and we're able to access sciences, I mean, when you think about it, brain sciences are really only 10 to 15 years old. There's so much to be discovered to help us live beautiful and empowered lives, the lives that we want. And there's no reason to suffer. So that is certainly what I wanna share with you today. Um, And I just really hope that everyone will listen to how they think a little more sharply by the time they're done this podcast.

Yeah, I mean, we're called to take every thought captive. And the problem is, you talk about this, only about 5% of our thoughts are even conscious, we're even aware of them. The other 95% are buried under the water, you know, like an iceberg. So How do we even start to take those thoughts captive? How did you do it when you were on the couch in COVID?

Well, what I came to understand is that when you're able to deeply relax your body, and that just means deep breathing and getting into a deeply meditative state, you're able to bring the conscious mind into a place where it will step back. So we're only 5% conscious relative to the power of the human mind, 95% subconscious. So if you think that, you've got a trillion synaptic connection opportunities in this brain, that the subconscious mind is 1 million times more powerful than the conscious mind, that we are full of habits and trains of thought that get embedded when we're younger, you can come to appreciate the fact that we don't know what we don't know. And so, when your subconscious mind is being able to keep your heart beating and your breathing and that sort of thing. It is also running that pattern and program you learned when you were 5 or 6 years old. And so technically, from a scientific manner of speaking, when you get into that deep trance state, you're able to inquire. Inquiry is the key here. And so when I was sitting on the couch in COVID and I was training with someone, I just— he said, what do you want to work on today? And I said, I want to understand why I have been experiencing these patterns in my life where things start out great and then they crash and they start out great and they crash, you know, relationships, work, you know, all these things were going on. And I said, if I can understand that pattern in my life, this whole year of training will be worth it. And within, 2 hours of inquiry of just going through that process of getting deeply relaxed and having someone guide you, I got the answer to my questions. I cried for a week on the couch because I was so upset. I said, "Oh my God, if I knew this was possible, I would let a completely different life." And what I discovered in 2 hours was that I had a subconscious limiting belief It was installed at the age of 3 that I didn't matter and that I wasn't worthy. And I grew up with 5 brothers, big chaotic household. Stuff was going on all the time and survival was key. And so learning these core principles of how the mind, when you're very young between the ages of 0 and 7, and I specifically say to women 0 to 14, will take in a belief. Mm-hmm. About oneself and the world around us that we believe to be true. And it gets anchored in the subconscious mind, which is like the operating system. And it will run like a thematic pattern throughout your entire life. Because it's— I tell people it's like nesting dolls. You have a belief, I'm not enough, and it starts at 3. And so you're trying to go out for the team at 12, and you believe you're not enough. You don't try hard. You try to do something coming outta college, like get a, you're the best job ever, but you believe you're not enough and you don't get it. You're in the boardroom, you're trying to give a presentation and you feel like you're not enough. You're not going to use your voice. So this is how these core limiting beliefs, similar to what you were discussing about yours, get built in and they're neural networks, neural patterns in our brain, and they affect how we look at life. Mm-hmm. And so the last point is that, you know, we bring in 11 million bits of information every second throughout our entire sensory network. Yeah, right.

Right.

No one knows that. 11 million bits of information every second. But your prefrontal cortex, this thinking brain, only factors 40 to 50 bits per second. How and why does it choose those 40 to 50 bits? And it has everything to do from the fact that you're always thinking from behind, whether those beliefs are true about yourself or not, they are determining how you see the world, how you show up, how you interpret, and how you respond. And so hypnotherapy led me to the core understanding that no one has to suffer when they cannot figure something out. There's always going to be a limiting belief running like a program in the back. And It's not necessary. So.

Oh my gosh. So good. Did you swap out that with a new truth?

Is that what you did? Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. So this allows you to— the concept is reprogram your mind. So when you have a limiting belief, I don't matter, I'm not worthy, let's just say it's running a neural network. You have the ability to go in and understand what is the emotional hook. So emotions are chemicals, they're chemistry.

Yeah.

They're about 50 to 60 peptides that are the emotional chemicals that run throughout the body. And so when you're able to go in and understand what happened with that 3-year-old version of you, you're able to then help that release and heal, and then you're able to put in what it is that you want. You are depowering the chemical, the neuro, chemistry that's going on, you're able to depower it and then replace what it is that you want. So the subconscious mind takes direction literally. It does not know time, which is why these old beliefs still run as though it's present moment. And it also, by the way, doesn't have a sense of humor. So you have to watch yourself talk.

Mm-hmm.

But when you are able to say to the subconscious mind, this is what I want, and keep focusing on it, it will respond. So the other thing is that your brain is an efficiency machine. It consumes 20% of your caloric intake every day.

Yeah.

And so it resists change because it's like, "Oh, what do you, you're gonna make me spend energy learning a new habit or, you know, a new way of thinking, and I've got all these other ways I know I can just run automatically." Yeah, but that's why you have to learn through repetition. You have to continue to repeat that new belief. And so what happened for me was when I came to that understanding and got on the other side of my anger that I had lived so much of my life believing I wasn't worthy, I was able to reprogram my mind, but also the way I showed up and the people who felt it first were my 5 brothers. They were like, uh-oh, what's going on? What happened to her? Now they see me coming. They're like, right back, hold on, here she comes. It completely changed the way I approach my life.

Wow, that's so good.

Oh my gosh. Okay, so we've all worked with Lydia. We've all done sessions with her. What did you work on? Do you mind sharing?

No, I don't care at all. So we went way back and mine is about being enough. And I had already kind of knew that a little bit. I already had my tattoo when I came and saw you. But what I didn't do before that was I didn't reprogram my mind. I thought that I had. But that is what I worked through with Lydia. We went way back. I think I was like 4 or 5. What we kind of figured out and just worked— was able to kind of pinpoint the exact moment where I started to feel that way. And then we worked through it. And then my, you know, I have been married and I had a divorce. Mm-hmm. That marriage is what really probably brought it all to the forefront for me, 'cause it was so, he was so controlling and there was just so much damage that was done that I didn't realize. And so Lydia really helped me unpack all that. I had healed a lot from that, but I hadn't fully healed. And I remember like leaving your office and sitting in the parking lot, just being like, kind of like you, like, holy crap.

Yeah.

Like, I could have fixed all of that if I would've just like, you know, reprogrammed my mind and, But it, the work didn't stop there. I wanna make sure I say that. Um, and something that I share a lot on our calls about my time with you was like, I remember like almost like praying while I was with you and just being like, God, like what are you trying to show me here?

Mm-hmm.

And I was at the time, like I had recently pivoted from leaving my career to coming to work full-time with Tabatha and I had no idea really what that was. It was literally that summer. And so I was just like, what? Like I was going through so much change. And so it, it really brought a lot to the forefront for me. But I also feel like it, it made me, it makes me approach life differently. But I'm, I do constantly go through, like you would, you give us like a recording that we have to listen to for 21 days.

Yep.

And there will be times where I can start to feel myself backtracking and I literally get that recording back out and I do it for a week or so. Okay. And I get back in it. So I, and I share this a lot when I'm coaching women, like, it's wonderful that you're feeling so great right now, but we need you to stay consistent. Like, you're gonna have things that take you off track. You're gonna feel that way again. You need to bring it back to the forefront. When you start to feel just a little bit off, I need you to quickly bring it back to the forefront. So I'm always, women who I know have seen you, I'm like, are you listening to your recording? You know, like, uh, it's probably time to get your recording out. Cause they, They obviously, they like cannot wait when they come back and see us to share like what they found with you.

Awesome.

So some of them struggled to share what it is, but we've built the relationship enough that they'll be like, yeah, here's what I was struggling with. And so it's really cool to see. But I think your story is amazing too when you went. You had like a pain.

Yeah, I had a pain in my left rib area in the back. I thought it was a broken rib from skiing. And it just kept going and it didn't stop for a couple years. And you helped me uncover that it was a broken heart. I had pain from my husband stepping out in our marriage and betraying me. And, you know, then we went deeper and you had uncovered that I didn't feel safe as a child on a playground with my brother there. And, you know, I just— I come from this belief of I'm not safe. I have to take care of myself and for myself. Um, and I think that's why I keep like fearing burnout of, you know, I'm not safe. And I just keep thinking of when Jesus says, yeah, you can sweep the spirit out of the house, but if you don't fill that house with different spirits, he'll come back with 7 friends, and it will be much worse than before. And so I want to highlight what you're saying, like, this is not a one and done. This is a continual work that you have to keep doing. And I am the same way. I pull out your recording. Your voice is so—

Thank you.

Calming and, and transformative. It really is. And we have to renew our mind and put new spiritual beliefs in there. Otherwise, it, it will come back sevenfold with a vengeance to, to take you down, because then you will feel defeated. Like, oh yeah, that was just a lie. That doesn't actually work. Like, don't ever bother doing that again. And it will it will throw you in the pit deeper, I believe. And so I think if you're gonna undertake something like this, be ready to do the work, right? Like, I can imagine it wasn't a one quick change after you had that revelation, right?

No, and I think, you know, we're in constant motion relative to what the environment around us is giving us as inputs, what our sensitivities and vulnerabilities are, given what we've experienced in life. And when things come back around, it's also because we're able to understand that sensitivity at a different level. And I think the brain's number one job is to keep us alive.

Yeah.

And to keep us feeling safe. And so it will resist any time an opportunity as a threat comes in, to be able to say, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, this is, this is the way I'm trained to respond. We're all, we all have habits that will come back up based on just millions and millions of different thought processes that we've gathered over time. The trick, however, is to understand beneath it all is that we're so much more powerful than we realize. And it is that power that hypnotherapy kind of guides you into. And when things come back up for a reason, it is It is typically a younger version of you that is getting activated again. So I try to remind people, okay, look, you're getting ready to go on and do a podcast and you've got a case of the nerves and stuff is coming up. Trust me, it's not the current version of you, the adult you that's having the case of nerves, it's the younger version of you. And when things come back around and you're feeling like, oh boy, here it comes again, one, you're recognizing it, it. But two, the thing I ask people to recognize is that it is not your current state. It is a past state of you and that you have conquered it once. And as you're bringing forward all of that learning, it's an opportunity to expand your power. So when you're able to get into that space of, okay, I think this is a limiting belief that's coming back around. Now, what was the source for that again? Let me think. Okay, so if I don't feel that I'm powerful, somebody else is going to be able to X, Y, and Z. And you start getting into a dialogue of like, all right, where is your authority? Where is your throttle in terms of your, your ability to get inside your mind, to calm things down, and recognize that in a moment, you can draw up 30 to 40% more power when you are present and calm. You just stop yourself. So I think for me, you've got a nervous system that's ancient. You're dealing with neural networks that go on ad infinitum. People around you will continue to act the way that they act. And every time it comes back around, it's an opportunity for you to grab the rail of your inner authority. You know what to do. You know, to calm yourself down, you know, to begin to think clearly and say, okay, how can I, show up differently, given what I understand about the power of my mind. And in that point in time, once you get it, you never forget it. And so that's my response. I mean, everybody, you know, will, will go through these spirals and these patterns until they're done.

You said something about stopping and breathing, and because of our world and everything is so busy and so fast, that's what we say a lot is like, take a deep breath. Like say no to things. You don't have to constantly be going, going, going, going, going. And so, and to also make breathing like brushing your teeth. Like, we breathe, obviously, without thinking about it, but we don't actually breathe. And so we talk about a lot, like, if it's at a red light, every red light you get to, take some deep breaths. Like, try to, you know, bring that breathing into your already habits that you have and things that you have to do.

Without a doubt. And I also trained in breathwork. I'm sorry, do you mind if I just mention? Yeah, no. I, uh, trained in Reset Breathwork, um, because what I recognize is that when people are working to pull up information, the breathing is critical to keep yourself in a very relaxed state. And so breath is the key to so many things in terms of both controlling your mind and your body. And when we take a deep cleansing breath, it opens up the diaphragm, which is the most innervated muscle in your entire body. And when you can open up the diaphragm, you're opening up your vagus nerve. And when you're opening up your vagus nerve, which goes all the way down into your, you know, your big brain here in the gut, you're gonna be getting a lot more information—

Yeah.

Than you would just trying to calculate with this prefrontal cortex that's doing 40 to 50 bits per second. So breathing allows you to access a much more powerful conscious mind, but it's your body mind that's also getting activated when you breathe. You're pulling in information from all your sensory organs, et cetera.

I'm getting this visualization. Have you ever played like a potato sack race where two people have to be in a sack and they have to run in the same direction to get there and win the race? Like, I'm having this idea of the mind and your spirit both in this potato sack, your body. And if they're fighting against each other, like, you're just going to be spinning circles, falling down, a hot raging mess.

Yeah.

Going— falling over, you're not going to be able to move forward. And so—

I hated that game, I just want you to know.

Now we know why. Yeah. Because you, like I said at the opening, you can't have this dissonance of your mind and your spirit. You have to be going in the same direction to move your body forward. And so if we don't even know what our mind is thinking and doing, how are we going to go in the same direction?

Totally.

Right? Right. Real quick, I just want to interrupt this conversation for something super important. Even though we need to take care of ourselves spiritually, emotionally, and physically, we do have to take care of ourselves at a cellular level. And that is why I have my Fast to Face supplement line. So let's just take a minute to hear about something that might be the game changer that you need in this season. I love to recommend our 3-2-1 Liver Detox quarterly or every season if you live where there's seasons. Like, you should be doing this 2 to 4 times a year just to support those liver detox pathways so that your body can get rid of the ongoing toxic burden. It's like a bucket that continues to fill up and you gotta pour it out and clean it out. Yeah. So that it can fill up again, 'cause that's just the world we live in.

Yeah, we have a really great guide. So when you purchase the kit, you also get an email with a really great guide, 'cause we talk a little bit about like food and some lifestyle changes that we recommend.

And I love how Orthomolecular has structured the way that you're supposed to take it, because say your phase 2 liver pathway is really congested, if you start opening phase 1, you're just gonna going to get a backup of more toxins because like you have to open the other pathway first. So it's really important that you're pooping first and then you have your second phase working and then your first phase. That's why we call it 3-2-1. You, you need to work backwards on opening these pathways. And that's why some women feel like garbage when they take liver cleanses or liver detoxes because it's only working on phase 1. Can you can you speak to that a little bit?

There's a specific way and process in which your liver will, in a healthy manner, take toxins in and mobilize them out of the body. And our science team put the 3-2-1 Detox together in a manner where we want to mobilize and, well, so there are 3 phases, 1, 2, 3. The second and third phases, you wanna get those rolling first. Because once you get those rolling, then the toxins will be able to more concretely kind of move through it. So the science behind it is we give the specific raw materials that will upregulate phase 2 and 3 first. So now we're rocking and rolling. Now, some folks, they just may need to do 2 and 3 a little bit longer before they start the phase 1 product. That's okay, that's fine. I mean, your body is going to be different, unique to you. Um, so it's not easy to do, but that's what— when you come out on the other side of a challenge, It's like you're a different person. And so it's so much more than really just an actual detox. It is that, but you will be a different person at the end of it. You should feel better. You should feel lighter.

Your skin is gonna look better.

Likely your skin is brighter.

Yeah, the puffiness, like take before and after pictures 'cause you're gonna be mind-blown about the puffiness like in your face.

Yeah.

That's when usually I can tell that I need to do one, when I start to feel that kind of poofy, tight skin.

Breathwork is so powerful because it can shift you into that parasympathetic mode so quickly. Just activates that vagal nerve. And so many women hold all their issues in their gut. Can we just talk about that a little bit?

Absolutely, absolutely. Well, when your primal makeup is, you know, protecting yourself from the fear response, you're going to carry a lot of it in the place where you digest and get a lot of information. But, and you, you know, certainly speaking to hormones, understand how the chemistry that gets going in the gut is going to create a lot of issues. Pardon me. So let me just go at it this way. When I'm working with somebody and they're, you know, talking about being in a particular time in their life when they're younger and they're afraid, I will ask them, where do you feel that in your body? More often than not, they're gonna say, I feel it here in my throat, I feel it here in my chest, or I feel it here in my gut. And the way that our body protects ourself in terms of being able to pull from strength has so much to do with what's going on in the stomach. And not only is it how you digest, but it's also your power.

Mm-hmm.

Is delivered through the way that you digest. And so I think people have to shove emotions somewhere. So it gets, you know, when we're carrying subconscious beliefs or we're carrying things, pain and that sort of thing, you're shoving an emotion somewhere more often than not. And as we know, a long time of shoving emotion in your body is going to create stress and it's going to make you sick. But when, You look at basically all the animals on the planet, the human body is the only one that does not shake out stress. So if you were to think of a deer that gets hit by a car, you know, just a bump or something like that, it will get up and it will shake it off. Dogs shake it off. When you think about animals and how they process energy, they're always shaking it off. Well, the human body does not do that. So emotions are chemicals. They're meant to run. And they're meant to, you know, carry information from all parts of your body. So we also put emotional chemicals in different parts of our body when we can't express ourselves. And so when women in particular are trying to hold on and they're so stressed, the first place they're gonna start shoving stuff is going to be stomach. Stomach. 'Cause that is where things get cut off. Stop breathing, You get really worried. The nervous energy and intelligence right here gets very anxious for self-survival. It gets very primal. And so, being able to bring back your power, as I say, you know, the places it was hidden away, given away, or taken away, is going to allow you to breathe and open up your belly. So, you know, it's— that's a long answer, but it has so much to do with our physiology our emotions, the chemistry of emotions, and where women are typically trying to hold back from something that's not making them safe.

Yeah, I was listening to one of your presentations on YouTube, and you were talking about the different ways that we use food, you know, to handle our emotions. And you said something that I found very interesting. You said that when you feel anger, you reach for potato chips or popcorn 'cause you need to chew and get that anger out of there. And I was like, wonder if that's real. And I kid you not, 4 hours later, I was really angry about something and I made popcorn and I just started laughing. Oh no. Standing there in front of the microwave going, oh my gosh, Lydia is so right. I just wanna chew this popcorn and get rid of this anger. Yeah. So, that is hilarious. Will you speak to that a little bit? Sure. Because I hear a lot of women, they're like, "Oh, I don't have an eating disorder. I don't have issues with food." But don't we all use food in some way to manage our emotions?

I believe so. The basic premise is that all eating is emotional eating. And what I mean by that is the first bonding experience we have is with mother's milk. And people will actually chase foods that remind them of the fat and the salt and the sugar of that original bonding experience. But we can develop emotional habits that are very healthy around, you know, family meals and big picnics. And, you know, food brings everybody to the table.

Yeah.

However, when we get upset and we're at grandma's in the summer because something's happening in the family system and she's taking care of us because that's that's the best place for the parents to put the child for the summer, and grandma's always feeding us chocolate, we're going to get into a stressful situation as an adult, and where are we going to go? We're going to run for the chocolate. This is how those emotional patterns become embedded. And so you can—

That's why I'm addicted to ice cream today.

Yeah, exactly. And so you can find people that need a Coke. They just need that adrenaline rush. Oh my God. Or they need pizzas, they need carbs because the carbs allow them to completely calm down. You'll find people medicating with carbs all day long.

Mm-hmm.

We can also find people that may not have been brought up with that much in terms of resources when they were younger, and going to get a takeout meal was the big treat. And then when they're stressed out and they're running between meetings, they see a fast food restaurant and they cannot stop themselves, they pull in. So, I think when you're looking at habits of eating, it's generational. It certainly is trying to, you know, feed a need, either a time in life when our needs weren't getting met, or there are ways that we work through emotions. And so, what I was referring to is that I, just through a stress and, you know, kind of, and being an angry cruncher, would, chomp popcorn, particularly when I was in business school or I was working through a project, and I have a couple crowns because sometimes you can just hit it too hard. I'm like, "Oh my God, what am I doing?" Yeah. But, you know, it can be very significant and serious for people that they use food to slay certain issues and possibly also themselves when they are not feeling really good. About who they are, and they turn to food, again, just to take care of themselves. And sometimes it can be— it can be a lonely companion. And I mean, I've seen all versions. And food can be used certainly beyond the equation of just being fuel. When we really take a look at it, when you're really using food as fuel, and you don't look at it as having any type of emotional connection, it's much easier to be clinical about what you're eating. However, when you've got a lifetime of memories associated with certain foods, what food means, where you eat, how you eat, when you eat, it is part of the fabric of life. It's like breathing. And unlike other habits, be it alcohol or smoking or any other types of addictions, changing food habits is very challenging because you have to eat. Mm-hmm.

Right? You can't give up eating.

You have to eat. So it's truly understanding if you have a particular issue, what's behind it, where did it come from, how am I unable to let go, and why.

Yeah, that is literally where Fast of Faith came from. I was running a group fasting program and God was like, you aren't teaching them the power of fasting and how it starts to reveal all of these things because your flesh will start screaming, "Where's my comfort? Where's my anger relief? Where's my calming effect? I need that right now." And you're like, "No, I'm not going to give it to you." And, you know, I keep seeing like, we as women have a little girl inside of us that we need to parent. We need to take her by the hand and not let her run into the street and redirect her in a loving, reassuring way. And to me, that is the opportunity that fasting brings. And that's what we see in our women in the Sisterhood is the— just, but they have so many ahas, so many breakthroughs of like, I had no idea that's why I reached for that Diet Coke. And, you know, I went to give that up because I'm fasting and I couldn't do it. And so it's an opportunity to say, okay, what needs to be healed? What, what little girl aspect do I need to address and nurture her through?

Right? Yeah, absolutely. I really encourage people after they're going through this process of understanding that there are much younger versions of us that carry incredible power.

Yeah.

To not feel any shame. You— I am like, look, don't blame yourself. People say, oh, I've got this issue. Okay, well, it was created by the my child version. Okay, so now I'm even worse off. I'm like, no, no, no. You're a dependent child. You should not feel any shame. There's a should, sorry about that. But, you know, please try not to feel shame because, you know, we bring in all this information when we're completely vulnerable. We're in a semi-hypnotic state until we're 7, just bringing in all these patterns and programs. And you just have to be very gentle. Be compassionate with yourself to say, okay, we're going to change this. Okay, we can redo this, we can get this right. But the other thing I want to say to people that have worked on diet programs and have gone through like, why I did Weight Watchers, I've done this, I've done that, why am I having such a difficult time? Well, it's those habits in the subconscious mind. The habits that, that perpetual habit along with the chemistry involved. you know, around particularly be it carbs and that sort of thing, are gonna keep you stuck. So, it's getting behind that subconscious pattern. What is the root to this pattern in your eating? Now, when you're going through a Weight Watchers program or anything like that, and you're only getting that 40 to 50 bits addressed, you know, say, "Come on, change, change, change." And you got another, you know, trillion bits back here going, "Oh, no, we're just gonna do it the way that we did it because, you know, we gotta keep moving here." it doesn't work. Yeah. So I just, you know, I wanna offer that part of it too, is just loving yourself through the adjustments, loving that younger version of yourself, not blaming yourself, but also understanding, look, this is what I'm up against here. You know, I've got this huge supercomputer and we need to take a few things and redirect them.

Yeah. I, I just, I love that you address the power and authority that you can claim. And really understanding that this is not about trying to do something in our own will, that it really is— God created us to take authority over things. He did, absolutely. And when we continue to act like we are sinners and we're not forgiven and we don't forgive ourselves and we are clothed in the shame, That is how we stay stuck. And so I would love for you to talk a little bit about our language and the words that we're speaking over ourselves, because, you know, sometimes I'll address myself like, "I'm just a sinner saved by grace, and thank you, Jesus." And he has been inviting me into new language lately of like, "That's not even you anymore. You have healed that. I have actually cleansed you of that. You don't need to claim any of that." that. You are a daughter of the Most High, and you have authority over this situation right now, and I need you to claim that and step into that. And for women, especially women struggling with weight, holding on to the weight, not releasing the weight, they have to shed that shameful identity, that guilt, those things that are like feeding those habits subconsciously, right? And How can we just step into this new identity? Like, you're a new creation in Christ. Step into it. That's what he's calling you to do. He didn't, you know, come just to save you in the next life. He came to give you life here abundantly, right now.

Yes. But you also need to step into it before you lose the weight. And that's—

Yes.

That is what we really talk about, is because it's It's so important, like you have to love yourself and your life right now, no matter what you look like, feel like, like you've gotta fix your mind now.

Yeah, you have to believe before you receive.

Yeah, I don't care how much extra weight you're carrying, what I care about is that you feel good and you feel confident, that you can, and then a lot of times that weight just sheds itself. We see that so much when women come and see you, they've been holding on to 15 to 20 pounds and they come and they finally just can let it go. And they might not actually even lose weight. I mean, I can picture Kendra sitting there when we did her call. Like, she literally was like, "I lost 10 pounds last year, but I don't even know what it was that I lost." Like, she's like, "I don't know that it was actual weight. I just lost so much, like, baggage." Because she did so much reprogramming her mind. One of our coaches.

Yeah.

Oh my gosh.

So— Boy, I got goosebumps. It's like, okay, roll up my sleeves. Let's get going here.

Sorry, I just felt like I had to say that. I had to say that 'cause I struggle when women just aren't happy and they're like, "Well, I will be when I lose 15 pounds." And it's like, "No, friend, please be happy now." Yes. Figure out what we need to do.

Absolutely. Couple things, just reflecting on be happy now is remembering that the subconscious mind doesn't know time. It is going to respond to the command you are giving it in the present moment. That is the point of power. Your entire body field is listening to the words you speak at all times. And so, an example of that is I tell people, "Okay, you're getting ready to take a test." And you say, "Okay, I'm gonna probably blow part of this test, blah, blah, blah." Your subconscious mind is like, "Oh, okay, I guess we're gonna blow part of this test." Or, "Oh, my back is killing me." I'm like, "Do not say that.

Don't say that." Yeah.

Your body is always listening to the commands that you give it, and it is going to respond in kind. So back to language, because that is where you started. What is it that you are speaking over yourself, or what is it that you are saying? So backing up, and we've kind of hit this theme a couple of times, is that you are patterned and programmed by the people around you when you are growing up. Whether you— it's just people are like, "How does this happen?" And I'm like— Well, the sky is blue. It really is part of the developmental program of the human experience. And when we look at the incredible creativity that is this human that we are walking in, it is just— it's phenomenal. Being able to escalate a higher level of awareness through listening to this podcast, by being a part of the Fast to Faith program, by being able to lift your your conscious awareness of how these pieces work and how it affects how you feel about yourself is key. Because when you can, it's kind of like setting up a new control panel in front of yourself and you're like, "Oh, okay, that's my language pattern from my grandfather and that's ridiculous." I mean, I'll talk to women while we're in session and they'll be using a phrase repeatedly. And I finally am like— What? I'm gonna count you down from 5 and I'm gonna want you to tell me whose voice is that. 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. That's my mother. She always used to say that to me. And, or it's my grandmother. Or I'll say to people, okay, why didn't you say anything when your father was talking to you like that? Because my mother never did. So how we learn to speak really comes through the transmissions within our family systems are the systems that we're in when we're younger. Understanding the power of language is truly just at the beginning of what I would refer to as frequency science, so that you can map how a human brain that is running these different frequencies will respond to different words, because they're going to not only be heard, but then the body's gonna respond energetically and with chemicals. Okay? No two people here— Mm-hmm. The same thing. That's why there are 12 people on a jury. No two people can have the same experience in life. You can have somebody who's getting rolled all the way up to the top of a roller coaster and thinks they're going to die in the next 2 seconds. And you can have the next person going, "Yes, I can't wait to get on and do this again." You know, so when you're looking at how people show up and they have yet to release the weight— and sidebar here on language. I do my best not to use the word loss.

Yeah.

Loss as a word has so much power, depending on what people have lived through. And so when they're saying, "All right, I gotta go do this weight loss program," and they've got other issues around the word loss, things that they've lost, things they don't wanna lose, that sort of thing can come up.

It's scary.

And so I refer to, you know, release the weight or let go. Why are you holding onto it? And so, you know, being able to reformat the way that you speak about yourself is job number one. The way that we wake up and talk and set intention and understand when people are talking, most often than not, they're completely unconscious about what they're saying. So speaking with purpose, first, your body, 'cause you know it's listening.

Mm-hmm.

Secondly, because you know that subconscious mind doesn't know time. You immediately engage with reprogramming and reformating your body-mind, and it will respond. However, if again, you know, if we got a subconscious belief in the back that's saying, oh, you're not worthy of the change, then that's gonna come up. And so the piece I really try to work with people on is to make sure that they know that they're worthy of the transformation. And why wouldn't someone think that they're worthy? Well, because they could have different perspectives of what's gonna happen when they make the change. You know, is there going to be an apple cart that's gonna get turned over at home if they start doing things differently? Are they afraid of their future 'cause they don't know who they're gonna be without it? These kinds of things. Or do they honestly think that they are worthy? They've got people healing all around them, but deep down inside, there's an old voice that says, "You're just not worth it." None of which is true.

Right.

That's the thing. And I, you know, I, I, but my last point is so much of when we're going into the subconscious mind and identifying patterns or languages and stuff like that, I will say to people, "Is, do you really think that's true?" Like, "No, that's not true. But I have an older version of myself that thought it was." Yeah, absolutely.

And the word is everything, you know? Like, all I can think about is scripture as you're talking, and the fact that we are sitting here today because God spoke us into existence. The word created us. He created the humans, the animals, the earth. The word became flesh. Like, the word is everything. It is that frequency that takes the spiritual idea and solidifies it into solid matter. And so you might not think your words are a big deal, but you're made in his image. You are a creator just like he is. And so you're creating your reality with every word that you speak. And the more that I check myself and work on my words, the better my life gets. But it's a process, right?

Process.

It really is.

So— And it's so important who you surround yourself with and your community and having people who can call you out when you know that you're working on something to rechange your mind. Like, you need to tell the people that are close to you so that when you start to speak negatively, they can call you out on that. And it's hard and it's not easy.

Right. That's why we were screaming at each other in the parking lot. All crying yesterday. We got loud. I was like, "Please don't let anybody be watching us right now." They probably thought we were nuts, but— She was like, "You can't speak that over yourself. That is not true. Stop saying that." And in my mind, I was like, "Thank you, but in my mind—" I mean, I stopped her.

So, we were in a call on Friday, like, and she was saying these things, and I was just like, "I cannot allow this." Like, I was so mad. I'm like, "Please stop." Like, and that was what it kind of just kept coming to a head, 'cause because she's such an important person in my life and such an important person in so many other women's lives. And so I'm like, uh-uh, we're not allowing this because she's constantly telling other people like, do not talk about yourself like that. And then here you are.

I say you cannot see the picture when you're in the frame. So you need women in your life who are gonna call you out and call you higher and check you.

And I mean, if we wouldn't have shared this story, no one would have known we had that issue yesterday. Because I mean, that's our relationship. Like we have a very good solid relationship. So please don't just like randomly go around yelling at people to stop talking negatively out there. So they might not take it as well as Tabatha took it. But, um, and you call me out all the time too. So, and you— but you'd need that.

Yeah, because if you keep stuff in the darkness, then the enemy has complete access to you. You have to bring everything to the light.

And he attacks you at your highest calling. And when you— when you figure out where you're weakest, that's where he's gonna use against you to attack you at your highest calling. And that is what was happening. So, so we're done with that. We've moved on.

Okay. If anyone is interested in hypnotherapy, just give us a short little summary of why they don't need to be scared. And the fact that you're, you know, the one thing you said to me that really calmed me down in the session was, you can get up off this couch anytime and leave. Like, you're not under my control, you are actually in control. So can you just kind of help women understand what the heck it is and that it's not scary, it's not demonic or any of that stuff?

Absolutely. Couple things. One, you're in complete control the whole time. I tell people it's like you're watching a movie and somebody comes in and says, "Where are the keys to the car?" And you, "Oh, okay, they're over there." You basically, so 4 primary brainwaves, and I'm not gonna go long on this, We're in the beta brainwave right now that doesn't come on until we're 7. So your mind's moving very quickly. The process of gaining access to the subconscious mind, which by the way is a 24/7 record of everything you've experienced in your life, right? 'Cause your brain's a prediction machine and that's why, you know, we're so smart. But the access to that library is in the brainwaves that are just beneath beta, alpha and theta. And you get into those slower brainwaves. It's kind of like you're just gently getting ready to go to sleep, and you just are able to sit there. And so getting into hypnosis is really just the sleep of the nervous system. It's a Greek word that means sleep. And the hypnosis and hypnotherapy got a really bad rap in the early 1900s because of the movie industry and blah, blah, blah, et cetera. Mm-hmm. It's actually one of the most ancient healing, modalities there is. When you think of the word therapy or therapeuta, those were the Greek temples that were the original spas that people would go to. And part of the therapy that they would engage there would just be able to, you know, just getting into these deeply relaxed states and letting things go, this process of letting go. So when somebody comes in, all I'm really doing is helping them. I'm just the guide. You know, I'm just the guide bringing someone into a very deep set of relaxation. You're getting into the parasympathetic nervous system through breathing and just following, you know, a guided visualization. And what happens is your mind begins to become into a heightened state of focus. So I tell people, it's like your brain all of a sudden is turning on at two different levels at once. You can see and experience the history that's coming up and you can look at it critically with your adult mind all at the same time. So I tell people, you can, you know, get up, go to the bathroom, call your broker, you know, we'll pick it up, whatever you wanna do, it's good. Yeah. Call me later. And it's equally as effective on Zoom. Sometimes when people are in their own spaces, they are able to relax even more. And it really is just a journey. There are basically 3 or 4 components we investigate. So someone says, "I really am having a hard time losing the last 20 pounds or letting go." And I say, "Okay, well, let's ask your body what's going on. What are you holding onto?" We just start after that deep relaxation takes about 7 minutes. Okay, I'm a great believer that we can't fix what we don't understand. So I want to ask your brilliant subconscious mind, what is the root, the cause, the reason for why you're being so challenged releasing this last 20 pounds? And most often, people will kind of sit there, we're going to count you down from 5. And because the subconscious mind takes commands literally, right? Let's use it to our benefit. We're gonna ask your subconscious mind to give us the root cause. Where did this first start? And people will be able to all of a sudden visualize, like all of a sudden a movie screen is popping up and you're like, oh, I'm in my kitchen. I'm at my grandmother's. I'm 6 years old. This information just starts coming in.

Mm-hmm.

And so you cannot relive anything. It truly is information. Subconscious mind is a healing mind. It only wants the best for you. And we're able to compile a stack of information such that by the time we're done doing the investigation, I turn to somebody, I'm saying, okay, so this is what we've got. These are the pictures and postcards from your past. What does that have to do with where you are today? Just kinda like, oh, well, because that happened, I'm doing this, that, da, da, da, da, da. It is almost a, a, a self-healing, self-teaching type process that people go through. And by bringing all of this stuff up to awareness, we're able to let it go. Mm-hmm. No, getting that younger version what they need and then getting through a process of letting go and separating from that old belief. And that's key. You need to separate from it and let it go. And then at the end, I do what's called future pacing. Okay, what is it that you want? And we start right there programming the mind for what it is that is desired. It's one of these things where every single session I've done is completely different. I have an ongoing well or that just grows wider and wider and wider with appreciation for the complexity of the human journey. We have got to love ourselves more.

Mm-hmm.

It is incredible. And as I say to people, look, you're born enough, you're born worthy, you, uh, you matter and you're meant to be here and you landed here this way. There was a lot of stuff that started happening, but you can change that and get back because that's the reality. That's the truth.

So good. Yeah.

So good.

So honestly, it's just a conversation that you are having with my subconscious mind, with my subconscious open and leading the conversation as opposed to my frontal pre— you know, my prefrontal cortex who wants to like, be in charge. So yeah.

Lydia, we're gonna put your link in, uh, our show notes, but will you tell them how they can also work with you and how you don't have to come to Grand Haven, Michigan, Spring Lake, Michigan?

That's right. Wonderful. Thank you. Thank you both for the opportunity. And I just wanna share with anyone, I'm happy to answer any questions you might have. Uh, you can reach out to me at lydia@lydiahatton.com. That is my email. And I'm also, my website is lydiahatton.com. There's a button there that says discovery call. And I'm happy to chat with anybody to understand whether this is something you'd like to pursue. I have a YouTube channel that has a number of videos that might be useful to you, just in terms of using your mind to live a better life in different aspects. And I'm also just very eager to connect and expand. And so if you have any opportunities where I can continue to share this work, and be able to help people understand that they can release these limiting beliefs and lead a much bigger life. Thank you. I'd love to.

You are such a gift. I love it. I'm so glad you left the world of business.

Yeah, right?

And all that stuff. And that's wild to me because it's such a different side of your brain that you're using now. So, I love when people reinvent themselves, like pain into purpose. Okay, I'm gonna leave you with Philippians 2, verse 1 and 2, to meditate on this week. And I want you to visualize that potato sack race of your spirit and your mind trying to go in the same direction and drag your body along with it. So Philippians 2 says, Therefore, if you have any encouragement from being united with Christ, if any comfort from his love, if any common sharing in the Spirit, if any tenderness and compassion, then make joy— make my joy complete by being like-minded. Having the same love, being one in spirit and one in mind. You gotta get connected. You have to be in alignment, mind, body, and spirit, if you want to move forward and get out of the pit. So talk to God, ask him what he's trying to reveal to you through Philippians 2, verse 1 and 2. Go be Christ's hands to serve. We love you. I know this blessed you today, and I can't wait to hear it. Please let us know how it— Thank you. Blessed you.

Bye, ladies.

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