Dylan Patel discusses Microsoft's strategy to build an independent AI research capability by recruiting top talent from competitors. The conversation highlights specific hires like Mustafa and Amar Subramanian, and notes how Anthropic and Meta have poached teams from Google in competitive talent wars.
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Say we roll forward 7 years. You no longer have access to OpenAI models. What does Microsoft do to make sure they have a leading AI lab, right? You've seen Anthropic poach the entire Blueshift reasoning team from Google last year. You've seen Meta poach a large reasoning and post-training team from Google more recently. These, these sorts of talent wars are very capital intensive.
At the end of the day, we are gonna build a world-class team and we already have a world-class team that's beginning to be sort of assembled, right? With Mustafa coming in, we have Karen, we have Amar Subramanian, who did a lot of the post-training at Gemini 2.5, who's at Microsoft. Abhinav Nando, who did a lot of the multimedia work at DeepMind, is there. And so we're going to build a world-class team.