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In this reflective segment, the speakers discuss Kate Spade's long‑standing battle with depression and anxiety, emphasizing how her sister discouraged inpatient treatment to protect the brand’s upbeat image. The conversation highlights the dissonance between the brand’s vibrant, joyful persona and the founder’s personal struggles, using her story as a cautionary example of how even highly successful entrepreneurs can be overwhelmed by the pressures of running a business. The speakers underscore that mental health challenges are not mitigated by wealth or success, and they express personal shock and empathy upon learning of her passing.

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