MenOpop: "It's Cool to be HOT" Party | Celebrating Women in Menopause

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Oh, Debra, it is such a pleasure. I'm just thrilled to be here. Thank you.

Well, I just can't decide after reading your bio whether I should ask you to write, sing, dance, you know what? I mean, you got all the talent, girl. What the deal?

Well, what I love about it— I mean, I do, I feel like so fortunate, and I've been playing in that world since I was little, so I've been doing it forever. But what I love is that it enables me to— whatever messages or expression I want to do, I have a lot of ways to do it. So depending on where it fits, like, oh, is this a song? Oh, is this a party? Oh, is this a film? You know, I get to do it in so many different ways. It's amazing.

I love that. There's so many things about your bio that I love, and I feel like I could— we could spend the whole 30-minute time we're here together picking those apart. But one of the things that really catches my attention, and I don't know why, but co-founder of Really Really, where did that name come from? Because I really like it.

Thank you. Well, it's funny, my business partner, uh, is actually a man, which I love saying that it's co-founded, uh, female and a male, uh, Peter Strauss. Some people may know him as, uh, Pierre the Mime. He was in The Impractical Jokers, and then Khloe Kardashian fell in love with him, so then he was on The Kardashians. So we came together to create a whole bunch of basically uplifting media, things that are fun, that are funny, or that are inspiring and empowering. And we were talking about, okay, what do we call this company as a whole? Because like you said, there's so many things. And we just started joking about when somebody wants to emphasize something, they go, really, really? And we thought, well, we want to emphasize us. So we just started saying, let's call it Really Really. And we started testing it out. And every time we said it, people started to laugh. And we thought, okay, that's what we're about. We're about disrupting you, making you stop for a second, and making you laugh. So that's how Really Really came about.

Sweet, sweet. It's a perfect story. All right, now, like, a menopause pop-up inactivity book. So in my mind, I'm thinking about the books I had, like, as a first and second grader, where I turned the pages and, like, it came to life, you know, and, and literally popped up. Tell listeners now— obviously I put you to the test because we're audio not video, but tell me exactly what is this?

So if you think about a pop-up book, they're irresistible. Yeah, you can't help but want to go reach it and look at it and see the fun things that pop up at you. So how to make menopause, which is probably one of the most downer subjects the way it goes around the world these days, irresistible and even, oh, shall we say, possibly fun? To learn about the symptoms. And of course we thought, well, this needs to be a pop-up book then. And the next thing we know— again, we're entertainers, so the fact that we came up with this at all is sort of bizarre— but we started really playing with the idea, well, what could pop up? Well, of course the uterus and the fallopian tubes need to fall off the page, and of course there needs to be a menopause fairy who's very cranky because she used to be the tooth fairy, and now look at her., and we have literally a centerfold with Miss Ma. Period. And we have an entire game. It's sort of a takeoff on Menoland, sorry, on Candyland, and we call it Menoland, but it's literally a game you can play with pieces and a spinner. So it's literally taking you back to that first and second grade where you just wanna play. And the thought of making menopause an entertaining space, a place where you can play in order to learn things, That sounds way more fun to me than having to go into a clinical, oh my God, I'm freaking out, what's happening to me and it doesn't sound good place.

That's so good. So I have to tell you a little story here. I, as you described menopause being one of the biggest downers potentially, at least up until now, let's hope so. Like, hopefully you are pivoting on a dime on this and how we'll talk about it maybe in the next 40 years very differently than we talked about it in these last 40, but I am— was in the process of renaming our membership. So we have a members area, and the name I gave it originally was potentially more cute, more clever than clear. And I kept thinking, I need to change this, I need to change this. Well, then a pandemic came and I didn't. And I was sitting on a leg press at the gym, and I was— that's when ideas come to me. And I thought, I have it, Menopause Athletic Club. And I came home and I put it up in the Facebook group and I said, hey, y'all, what about this? And they were all like, no, we don't want to identify with menopause. What is wrong with you? And they were like, I would never have joined. I'm like, wow, wow, I have been schooled. Okay.

Yeah, well, it's— this was the light on the page for us. We thought we could just sell a fun menopause book, but nobody wanted to be related to menopause. They didn't want to say anything about it, and it made people sad. So we're— not only are we playing with the ability to make it a game, we're playing the words. We're basically saying that if you join in our, you know, menopause pop-up activity world, you're now part of the Menopopulation. You are Menopopular. And we call them Menopoppers because that's more fun. Like, pop— just the word. Like, it's terrible against the, the audio at the moment, a lot of all those Ps, but Ultimately, we're kind of playing with language in order to make it more accessible. And we're playing with the idea of this so that, like you said, for the past 40 and 400 years, this has been a terrible, don't talk about it, don't deal with it. And I feel like this generation is finally saying, hang on, not only what is happening to me, this better be a better fun ride than anybody else has gone through. And one of my personal goals is it ends with us. I want our generation to be the final generation that is scared of it, that doesn't know what's going on, that feels terrible and feels alone. That's one of our biggest missions around Menopop as a whole, is to make this the end.

Amen. Amen. Yeah. And I— we constantly talk here about the fact that we were like in a gap, like My mom passed at 95 a couple years ago. You know, we didn't see that generation lifting weights, doing the things that actually contribute to lean muscle and strength and bone density and stamina. And we're the first generation that will have started— potentially every woman I hope in earshot at least is lifting weights. We're looking at our body composition not because we want to know how fat we are, but we want to know how much lean muscle we have and that we're keeping it. We're the first generation will do that, just like never putting down our cell phones. We're not going to stop and decide this, this day, I'm now too old to do that.

Absolutely. And part of what I adore about what you do is you're really claiming how women in general have not had the kind of research and attention that they should have had. And forget it when you get to menopause. What we've been learning is most doctors get a couple of hours of training. So it's not only the women in menopause who need to learn about this, it's the doctors who don't know what's going on. Not everyone, of course, but there's just way too many that really don't understand or know or have a clue how to help. And of course, it's an individual issue without question. It's not just a one, one-shot-fits-all kind of thing. But the fact that even our practitioners are not quite clear on how to at least take in the symptoms and the alarm bells that something's up so that women don't feel like they're being told, oh, there's nothing wrong with you. And it's not like there's something wrong with them, but they are not making it up. They're having symptoms. And they— I mean, I just actually created— it's going to come out at the end of the year— an adaptation of the pop-up book into an audio experience. And what I did was I took all the characters in the book and I gave them backstories and I gave them all 36 different possible symptoms you could be having. Now, who knew there were 36 symptoms? Well, now you can because you're going to learn about them, which may on one hand be devastating that you could possibly have them all, but because you're going to learn about them with these crazy, zany, fun characters in a very silly way, at least you've intook the information in a way that's calming, that's pleasing, that you're smiling even though you want to cry.

That's fun.

Yeah, thank you.

So fun. Yeah, I love that. Yeah, and who knew, right? You're exactly right. And if you have like just a silly combination of those, again, back to what you said, you know, Western-trained doctors don't know. I imagine that going forward I'm going to have many more weeks like the déjà vu you just gave me. Yesterday I had an in-depth conversation that was probably— well, you have big shoes to fill because it was probably one of the best— what I think listeners will think of as one of the most informative podcasts that I've done in hosting two shows for 11 years with multiple episodes a week. But he said exactly the same, and he's 81, he's been doing this for over 30 years, and he said doctors don't get this training in school. My mission is to train them so they do know what to do, but they don't get it. And it's, it's not their fault that they can't help. They're not trained this way.

Exactly. Exactly. So what we're trying to do with our sweet little Menopop brand is I kind of look at it as like, hey, the circus is in town. Over here, over here, over here. Come look at something fun and silly. And oh good. Now that you're all here. Here, here's 3 rings of all kinds of different approaches and people who want to help you. Like, we can facilitate, we can point to— and that includes the practitioners— we can point to the practitioners and say, hey, go, go, go try out this modality. That's something you can give people. It's good. Um, and get them even more trained on the ideas of how to help their own clients, their own, uh— I would say clients because I'm in more business world— but their patients.

True. Yeah, yes, yeah, so love that. Okay, so I want to come back to your plan words because you have so many. This is so fun for my mind. But tell us what this— it's cool to be hot party—

what is that? Yes, so October 18th is World Menopause Day. It's official in the books, World Menopause Day. And we thought, okay, let's make this a party. And we have taken over the day. We're calling it It's Cool to Be Hot Party, and we're basically inviting the world because it's a virtual party. It's— everything's online, everything will be links. It's also free. It's free for everyone. I've made— my last name is Cohen, and I always say I want everyone to co-win together. So I've created a partnership with Everyone who comes in as our Manapoppers, all you have to do is come in and leave us your name and you're going to get gifted and feted and celebrated forever now. And that's for free. We've also asked all of these extraordinary practitioners and healers and every kind of modality you can think of to come on board and give little gifts and goodies and promos of their work so you can learn what's out there and what's possible. And then we're also on the day of the 18th We're going to let people play all day. And, you know, if you're working, you obviously will send you videos, recordings of them. But we'll have an entire day of places to exercise and learn different exercising, to have workshops with inspiration, to have silly fun comedy. We're going to have dance parties and music. It's, it's a party. And you know how you show up for some of it and then you leave to have your, you know, moment outside and then you come back. So it should feel like a fun party, but our whole point is to activate a world awareness that there are women who are feeling alone, who are feeling uncared for, who are not sure what to do. And we're saying, nah, pay attention. We're here, we're taking care of you, we have our arms around you, we want to make you laugh. You might have to cry and there's a corner for you to do that as well, like we're totally clear, but to make it as joyous and spontaneously weird and fun as possible in order for people to just really feel what they should be feeling, which is celebrated and seen and heard and loved.

I love it. And you know what this day and hearing you talk just now makes me think of? Are you familiar with Dr. Joe Dispenza's work?

I adore Dr. Joe Dispenza's work.

Did you happen to participate in the World Walk?

I'm aware of it. I was not able to at the time, but yes, right.

So I— September, what, 23rd, I think, on a Saturday morning, we all collectively from, I think, 166 different countries were all quote unquote walking at the same time. And there were, there were different groups collaborating, I think, from different communities. I couldn't go join some of the people friends with because I had to do a masterclass shortly afterwards, so I had to do it here by myself. But collectively, there is something about knowing other people are doing exactly what you're doing. We're doing this mission together, and that feels like what you're doing is creating this— this is this space where we're all declaring this is really important. We're at a moment in time where we're all a part of The change, pun intended. See what I did there? Nicely done. Yeah, I'm trying to keep up, Michelle.

No, you're awesome. I always say it's no keeping up, it's just we're playing together. So you just did a good one. I love it.

More of that. Okay, well, you mentioned something I don't want to forget because everybody loves the favor bags. So talk about the virtual swag bag for Minnow Poppers.

And exactly, well, what's, what's one of the best parts of a party but getting your swag bag at the end, right? Right. Oh my God, so much fun. So we just put out a call literally around the world. Like, I'm working with a woman in India who's this extraordinary influencer. I mean, it's, it's so exciting. So we are getting everything from— it could be, you know, more technical, like, you know, hormone, looking at, you know, happy hormone cocktail, or it could be meditation, or it could be, you know, different kind of movement modalities and exercising Or we have someone doing hypnotherapy to help you, like, sleep through the night. I mean, just dealing with different symptoms. We have intuitive work. So it takes care of your physical, your mental, your emotional, and even your spiritual. We have every type of religious modality coming in, every type of alternative, as well as Western medicine. I want to make it as diplomatic and equal as possible because ultimately You know, whoever's looking at these wonderful gifts, they're gonna check in with themselves and they're going to check in with their medical— whomever their advisors are— and figure out what's best for them. But it's, uh, it's so important for y'all to know that there are tons of ways to feel better out there, and we're just giving a spotlight and amplifying all these people that we think are really super and doing great work in the world. And so this will be an entire— just, it'll be a special link that that you get into special pages on our website that's going to take you on a fun adventure of, you know, do you want to work on your sexuality? Do you want to work on your sweatiness? Do you want to work on how you're thinking about yourself? All of that is in there.

So much fun. So love it. What— let's talk a little bit about the, the healing through humor, you know, and your ability to do that. I think first let's talk about hormones that were triggering when we trigger humor and we laugh at something that's a little bit more serious. Um, talk about how you adopted that as a lifestyle brand.

Yeah, it's great. So you're talking to a woman who grew up as an entertainer, a singer, an actress, director, everything. So I, I know from comedy, and my business partner is a mime and a Ringling Brothers clown, so he too knows from comedy. And what we decided, it's— there's comedy, but then there's also disruption. Unfortunately, we don't make changes in general unless we've been disrupted in a harsh way. We got sick, something terrible happened, and suddenly we have to deal with whatever's going on. What we want to do is disrupt in a fun way, that do something so weird that it stops you in your tracks And now you're also making those adjustments you would have made when you were sick, but instead you're making it while you're laughing. Like, that to me is a much better recipe. So that's how we see we're helping you heal. And oh, by the way, you're laughing. And oh, by the way, you just learned something.

Okay, so let me play devil's advocate for a minute. So if you're targeting international women from all over the globe. People with different cultures have different— maybe, I don't know if sense of humor is the right way, but different things are taken as funny versus serious. How do you, how do you handle that?

Well, I would say it doesn't even have to be international. It could be the person sitting next to you. True. You know, you can sit in a movie theater or in a theater and you're laughing like crazy and the person next to you is snoring, and you're like, what? So that's certainly part of the job. But what we try to do is tap into what's universal and tap into archetypes that are more, you know, this is more of the undercover craft stuff, shall we say. Um, you know, there's, there's certain layers and levels of creation that you do, and if you're doing it with an intention to affect a lot of people, you make sure that what you're doing really hits a deep core level. And so that your chances of attracting many more people is higher. So of course, not— I wish to say there's something that's for everyone on the planet. It's not the case. But we're trying to do a really good job to open up the possibilities. You know, even in our book, like some people are totally into the centerfold and other people like the cranky fairy. And then we have 6 Dial-a-Mood ladies, we call them their mood ladies. So you've got Angry Agnes, Tired Pat, Weepy Wanda, Negatory Corey, Psychopathic Kathy, and Lonely Lenora. So even within that, you're hitting a lot of different types and personalities. So someone may be totally turned off by Angry Agnes but adore Lonely Lenora because she's just so sweet. So again, we're just, we're, We're opening up as much as we can. I do have to say what's interesting is I'm working with a lot of the people outside of America. Menopause is actually a bit more on— oh, there's a lot more awareness and it's been around longer with the terms of the cultures trying to help them. We're actually behind. We're a little bit behind the scene. We've only been— I would say the past 2 years, it feels like America suddenly woke up and said, hey, Did you know people are in menopause? Like, that's what it feels like. And yet there's been a lot of— particularly in England, there's been a lot of places that have been creating, uh, there's menopause cafes where people all just get together and work through and sort through what they're going through. Like, that's just starting to happen in America. So there's things like that. Or I love— I actually put this in my script because I really want people to start doing this. There's some places where governments are helping major corporations install showers in the offices. Wow. Can you imagine having a day where it's okay to go take a shower before that big meeting? Yeah. And to have a day where people get it and you just need a minute to like take a breath and then you continue. You don't have to hide it. You don't have to worry what are people thinking. Like, that's the way we should be living.

Yeah, so true. And I, I often lecture internationally for fitness pros and health coaches, and we are so far behind Europe, you know, in the way they support in the workplace. And it's crazy. It's, it's really crazy. So I love that this is happening, and shout out to all of the female bosses and entrepreneurs out there who are trying to make some changes, respectful of their employees who may be just a little bit more— what's the word— kind of in tune with it themselves because they've been there, done that, or are doing it.

It's true. Yeah, I mean, I always joke, like, particularly our generation, we grew up with Judy Blume's Are You There, God? It's Me, Margaret. Yes. And that's how we learned about our periods.

Mm-hmm.

Um, and also that's how a lot of people didn't get frightened. I mean, these little kids were suddenly like, oh my God, I'm bleeding, I'm dying. They were like, oh, okay, it's my period. Like, at least they knew. It's part of what I'm hoping— not that I'm Judy Blume, I adore her, I've actually met her, she's amazing.

Have you? I've tried to get her here.

Oh, she came to my show.

She—

I had produced Schoolhouse Rock Live off-Broadway, and she actually came to the show, and we got to say hi afterwards. I have pictures of us with her. She's just, I mean, she's an idol. She's just brilliant. Yeah. So what, you know, I feel like in homage to her and in trying to make that something really vital now is I would love like Menopop and a bunch of other wonderful systems and products and brands to be the welcome mat, to be the, hey, you know, like we created Menopop because a woman who was working with us was way older than us at the time. And she went into menopause and none of us knew what was going on. She was just freaking out thinking she was having a heart attack. And, when she finally figured out that it was menopause, this was 20 years ago. Nobody— there was nothing fun, let alone funny, about the information. And, that's part of why we decided to start this whole brand. And then, we had to wait 20 years before like we started this before Facebook, so we couldn't tell anybody about it. So it's only now that there's tons of social media and we have the ability to tell the world that we, we want to help you understand that this is what's happened to you sooner than later, and to know that it, it may not be fun, but it can at least relieve the, the tension inside you. So that, you know, laughter does that. That's what we hope we're doing is we're releasing some of the tension while you sort through what it is you need to feel better.

So great. I love that. Okay, so I have to ask you this question. This is not even on the table. Yes, you do. Or, or we'll edit. There's that.

The magic.

So this is an endeavor. Is this a business? And as an entrepreneur who has started her own business at a time when there's tuition to pay and right now there's a wedding to plan, for crying out loud, how are you monetizing this?

Menopop itself? Yeah. So the irony is Peter and I have so many projects happening at the same time. It's sort of a joke. It's, I mean, it's a blessing. It's wonderful. So this is one of many. Properties that we're working on. But Menopop itself, I mean, here's the thing, we are putting this party together to kind of put our stamp and say, hi, we're here. And what we're assuming and hoping and is already starting to happen is people are like, oh, you're a really good pretty package for us to then work with. Basically, like I said, we're the circus. So the more people who want to come in and play with us, and for us to help amplify them, it becomes a win-win for everybody. Again, my win-win. And ultimately, like I said, we have the book that people can buy. We have all kinds of silly, fun, wonderful products to help them feel better. We have— my favorite is a color-changing mug. It's black and dark, but once you pour the hot water in it, it turns really bright and it reminds you that it's cool to be hot. So we have just really fun things like that. And like I said, the audio, um, is going to be available. We're recording it next month, so it should be available right after that. And we're just going to keep, you know, pushing in whatever way, um, whatever way it seems to serve people. Like, I'm really open to— I have a lot of ideas of what this can turn into. I mean, again, we're entertainers, so we're looking at it becoming an entertainment I mean, we're looking at creating games. And like you said, we can have, you know, it doesn't have to be online. It could be in your phone, like creating this whole entertaining world that you can play and feel better about or learn things, but in a silly way. We are talking to entertainers of how to, you know, bring this to media is how we get the most impact these days. And we're a media company ultimately. So the more we can attract media and play with them. We have literally a live menopause fairy who is this incredible genius of an improv comedian, and she is— I mean, forget it, she is being let loose. And just being able to play with her— a lot of our, um, people that are giving to the swag bag are actually going to get interviewed by her, which is ridiculous. So we're just playing with so many ways to just bring this this idea of menopause into our century, into our generation, and in a way that makes it palatable for everybody to go through.

I love that. Okay, I've got— you've given me so many things here, and you're doing so much new and exciting, and it's all creative and fun, and it just— it's uplifting. So it's funny that I'm sitting at my desk and I sometimes struggle not to come down to my microphone. This is really weird, but I I'm actually finding myself sitting up straighter. I have more energy because I'm talking to you.

I love that. Thank you for that.

It's what you want, isn't it?

That's exactly— it's my goal as a human, and it is my goal for any properties that I'm doing. I mean, come on. It's really easy to be depressed. It is really easy to be down. It takes a little extra effort to get popped up, to up our vibe, to feel like we're you know, in a happy, dare I say, happy place, even if we're feeling like the misery around us. So we're really trained and really good and really crafted around helping. And that's the ultimate goal. Like, if you buy the silly Psychopathy Kathy pillow so that anytime you're just in a terrible mood, you stare at that and you throw it around, like that just upped your vibe so fast. So it's— I mean, again, we're not expecting people to feel great 24/7. I don't think anybody does, even me, who's pretty chipper. Um, but I think the more we can choose how many hours in the day we're feeling up and we're, we're going towards higher vibing, the whole world changes. Like you talked about Joe Dispenza's walk The awareness that people are feeling better, the awareness that people are attempting to vibe higher and to be happy and to smile. Like, I literally— my biggest thing I tell people to do, if you don't know how to give or what to do, or if you're not in a place to give, just when you're walking around, smile at people.

Nothing else, just smile. Yeah. And kind of in alignment with that, I You know, we all go through certain things, and I think probably most women, if they've gotten here, they're— they've got some history behind them. We've all been through one kind of tragedy or another. And I remember it took me to be in the middle of a family tragedy to realize how judgmental I'd been, thinking, why isn't that woman smiling back at me? Why didn't she say hello? And then I realized that people, people have no idea what you're going through, and people beside you are dealing with a death or a sudden, sudden tragedy, and you just don't know.

I mean, that's the beauty of what you just said. Always assume someone can use your smile. Yeah, just assume it because they can.

Yeah, yeah. And it, it reflects inside as well. If you put one on, it usually feels better.

Well, that— I do that when I, you know, I do a lot of training and helping people, and I say— like, it literally just— I think Mother Teresa said it. I think there's a quote, I don't remember it, but we can find it, where she literally says just almost like plaster the smile on, just like put the smile on. It's our jobs. Because— and it does, like, literally just the physicality of lifting up this— I'm doing it with— as we're speaking, I know you can't see me, but you can feel it. I can hear it. Lifting. I'm lifting my— the sides of my lips. And, you know, even if I was miserable crying, I'd sometimes do it because then I just start laughing because I'm ridiculous. Because ultimately we just can't lose our senses of humor.

That's when we know we're in trouble. So good. Okay, so October 18th is the big day. Prior to that, can people connect with you in advance? Can they get some insider scoop? Can they peek inside the swag bag?

And where can they do all that? Yes. As of this second, jump onto your whatever connection you have and go to menopop.com, M-E-N-O-P-O-P, and click on party. It's at the top. Just click on party and there will be a page that simply says, we want to celebrate you. And it'll have really big— we made it so big that you don't need your glasses to find it. You're going to see where to put your name and where to put your email address. And once you've done that, you're done. Sit back and let us help you and let us just vet you. And we're just going to be sending you emails to cheer you up and also to explain what's going on and to tell you all the really cool people in the swag bag, maybe give you a little taste of things before they show up. So it's just, again, party started.

Come join. Okay. I have to ask this for all of the introverts listening. So are they going to be okay? Like they're not going to be put on the spot. They can sit back and watch and, and participate in that way.

Actually, the entire thing is from the comfort of your own home. Sweet. Yeah. You can be as shy as you want and you can be as silly and crazy as you want. No one's going to know. Sweet.

All right. I so love it. Okay, so everybody, we've got all the links to connect with Michelle. And what it is she's doing is like a movement and you want to be a part of it. So I also want you to know that, you know, you are the most powerful health influencer that there is. You're handing this off not just to the younger women, but to the younger men and to your peers and potentially to the older women who didn't have this opportunity but may learn something still from you. So take advantage of that position that you have in the world. And if I missed a question that you wish I would have asked Michelle, it's your chance. You can go over and connect with her, and I bet you she will answer. What are you waiting for?

Let's start.

I would love to. Flipping 50 today.