Questions to Ask Your Menopause Fitness Coach (& Questions a Coach Should Ask You)

Ever wish you could talk to your own private menopause fitness coach? Well, this is for you, only it's a two-for-one. So it doesn't matter if you're actually a woman interested in getting advice for herself, or if you're a health coach, fitness trainer, and are also working with women in midlife. This is for you. It's going to be rich for both sides all the way through. So listen to the full episode and let's rock this one. First of all, I am so excited for this episode and I may get the unique opportunity to record this twice. I love it so much. So we're inevitably getting tested today, so we'll just call it that. But for whatever reasons, one of our, our platforms for hosting podcasts isn't functioning quite well today. And working with AI instead of a human is not always advantageous. But this podcast I am very excited about, and this will be an advantage to you. And whether you're here considering yourself and what you should ask if you're about to hire or work with a trainer or an instructor or a health pro or coach, and/or you are one, you will also get some very, very detailed insight into what it is that you want to be asking your trainer, coach, or your client. So if you're looking for a menopause fitness coach, or you are a coach wanting to serve women in midlife better, then this is for you. Either way, this episode is going to change the conversation that you have, because here's the thing: not all menopause fitness coaching is created equal, and the questions you ask or that you don't ask reveal everything about whether this is going to be a transformative experience, or just another program that doesn't quite fit. I'm breaking this episode into two parts, but no matter who you are, you're gonna wanna listen to both. First, the questions that you should be asking if you're looking for a menopause fitness coach, and second, the questions that a truly informed coach would be asking you as a client before working together. So let's dive in. So questions that you would ask your menopause fitness coach, and these are not gotcha questions. These are genuine inquiries that reveal whether your coach understands the nuances of training women in this life stage, meaning their answers should reveal things to you. And I'm gonna tell you why the question matters, what a knowledgeable coach might say, and any details that need to help you understand and clarify that. So a well-trained menopause coach will light up when you ask these questions because they love to talk about this stuff and give you the insight, and they will be pleasantly surprised that you're in the know about them. So number 1, How do you determine the appropriate exercise volume for somebody in my stage of menopause? Why does that question matter? Exercise volume, and that is measured in a multitude of ways, but most commonly your sets and your repetitions and the load per muscle group per week. The requirements actually change throughout your menopause transition. A coach who just describes the same program to everyone regardless of hormone status doesn't understand that perimenopause, early postmenopause, and late postmenopause have different recovery capacities and different needs based on hormonal stage, exercise experience stage, and on literally simply aging. What a knowledgeable coach might say— ready? They should mention that volume tolerance can decrease during transition and that they assess your current hormone status, your recovery markers, and your response to training. They might reference that research shows postmenopausal women need more sets per muscle group compared to premenopausal women to achieve the same body composition change stimulus, but only if recovery is optimized. Question number 2: What's your protocol for adjusting my program around my cortisol Cortisol patterns. Now you have to admit, these are really intelligent questions and you might feel a little funny asking them, but what I'm hoping I'm giving you here is the why this question matters and hopefully a little intel so you understand that piece as well. So why does this matter? Cortisol is not the enemy, by the way, but its relationship with estrogen creates a delicate balance during menopause. A coach who understands this knows that exercise Exercise timing, intensity distribution, and even the order of your exercises can either support or sabotage cortisol regulation. The type and the timing of the exercise that you do really matters more at this point in your life. What a knowledgeable coach might say: they should discuss circadian rhythm training strategies, the role of rest-to-work ratio in, say, high-intensity interval training, and how they monitor signs of HPA excess dysregulation. Bonus points if they mention the shift of higher-intensity cortisol-driving exercise shifting to morning and not late in the day. Question number 3: How do you approach protein timing specifically for muscle protein synthesis in postmenopausal women? Why does this matter? So that anabolic window isn't dead, and that is this— when should we eat protein in order to help ourselves the most around our workouts and resistance training? But it has evolved. So what I mean by that is recently in— if you're getting all your information from social media, and I hope that's not where all of it comes from, by the way, but if you're getting that, you've realized that lately it's been said and true that at least for men, it doesn't matter as much when you eat that protein as long as you are eating it regularly, evenly distributed around the clock. So you have 3 evenly distributed meals. Do you have to go over and above and make sure you have a pre and a post-workout snack? Probably not, because it's probably going to happen naturally anyway. Your workout's going to happen at some point close to one of those meals. But if you've kept up with research shares, there, there isn't as big a need to be so vigilant, like, "Oh my God, I have to eat because I just worked out." It's not so much that you have to do that, but women notoriously under-eat. So you're entering workouts under-fueled chronically, you know, not just day off, it's like every day you're not eating enough. Pairing that high stress state with exercise of high effort, it's a recipe for muscle breakdown and fat storage increase. Postmenopausal women have a blunted muscle protein synthesis response, meaning we don't get a big bump when we resistance train or when we eat protein. We actually have to eat more protein. So whenever we can combine the two, we're going to get a bigger boost at the very least. So timing and distribution probably do become more important as we age. It's really critical. The workouts can't be too hard compared to the recovery. Let me say that again. The workout is not too hard for you, but the recovery might be too little for you. So what a knowledgeable coach might say in answer to this question, they should mention some of the things that I just did, mention the concept of anabolic resistance, the threshold dose, like 30 to 40 grams, more toward 40 if you're postmenopausal, of protein per meal, and the importance of leucine in that protein. So leucine is one of the essential amino acids. It doesn't stand out, like we can't isolate it, and we don't want you to go the store and buy leucine, but we do want you to make sure you're getting protein sources that have leucine in it. One of those is whey protein. However, a lot of women do not tolerate dairy very well anymore, and that is a bummer because dairy has significant amount of leucine in it, and whey protein is one fantastic way to get it in. I keep testing myself to see, can I tolerate that, but find the bloating is just not worth it. And probably if you've got the bloating, that's evidence you're not potentially absorbing the leucine Anyway, so you should hear from a coach several of those things, maybe not all, but they should touch on some. They might discuss pre-sleep protein even. Surprise, surprise. But in case you're struggling with gaining lean muscle, that might come up, and the role of protein distribution throughout your day. Question number 4: What's your stance on training to failure for women in menopause? So why does this matter? It reveals whether a coach understands the systemic stress of training to failure or close to it impacts recovery differently when estrogen is low. And it's not that you can't train hard, it's about knowing when, how often, and for which muscle groups that would be beneficial to you. What a coach might say, a knowledgeable one: They should explain the difference between mechanical tension and metabolic stress. Discuss periodization of intensity, meaning it's not hard every day, all day, or go home. And mention that training to failure might be appropriate for isolation movements, but risky for compound movements or when done too frequently. That is a coach. And you, dear listener, should understand the difference between metabolic workouts, those that burn a lot of calories because you're moving fast and seemingly keep you thinner and leaner— seemingly being the key word there— but that are very possibly not enough mechanical stress for bone, for building muscle long-term for metabolism and for glucose regulation. So combination movements like kettlebell swings, squat to press, neither fatigue the lower body or the upper body appropriately for true long-term metabolic change, though they are called metabolic conditioning. How confusing could that be for us? Though they may play a part in functional movement components that should be evident in workout routines to some degree, meaning you're going to bend down, pick up your overhead, your, your carry-on, and put it in the overhead compartment. That is actually a squat to a press. However, if that's all you're doing and there is no squat with heavier weight and there's no shoulder press slower and more controlled so we're not doing any damage to that shoulder, we have to re-look at that. And whether that indeed is going to be appropriate and beneficial for you. Okay, so let's move on. We want to make sure that you're asking this one as well. How do you program around the fact that tendon adaptation is slower than muscle adaptation in menopause? Now again, you're going to sound like a real fancy schmancy smarty pants, okay? But that is okay. Let them know you know a thing or two. So what is that all about and why does it matter? This is the question that separates specialists from generalists. Estrogen has protective effects on collagen synthesis surrounding your joints with safety, resilient, uh, bounce-back ability, if you will. And estrogen's left the building. So what does that mean for you? When it declines, tendons become less resilient, more rigid, and a coach who doesn't account for this sets you up for injury. So what a knowledgeable coach might say, they should just discuss the role of slow eccentric work, the importance of progressive overload that accounts for connective tissue adaptation rates, and longer warm-ups and increased recovery time between sessions. They might discuss the inclusion of collagen peptides to supplement training, but that is much less a factor and maybe still a question science is finding answers for. So collagen is really not the end-all be-all. You can— ideally, I think you'd hear from a coach who would say that to you, that very thing. Maybe they'd say, you know, look, I take collagen, I believe in it, but there may not be as much conclusive evidence as you'd like. So you You know, say jury's still out on that. Maybe that's when you're going to skip. I think that's a fair question because often we do like to know what do our coaches do themselves. Hey, real quick, let me tell you about one of the very first things I did moving into my new-to-me house. As soon as the moving van pulled away, I set up my Air Doctor. It was literally one of the very first things because, hey, I've been exposed to mold before. And I was concerned. You know, 90% of us spend 90% of our time indoors, but indoor air can be 100 times more polluted than outdoor air. And I moved here in the tundra in mid-November and then promptly got 9 inches of snow. Knowing I'll be spending a lot of time inside, it really matters to me that I'm not breathing in contaminants, allergens, viruses, smoke, gases. Mold spores or more? 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I said it before and I'll say it again: the workouts are not too hard, you're not too old, However, if you're not eating enough, sleeping enough, de-stressing enough, or you've got a lot going on, on your plate and can't right now, we have to factor that in. A good coach doesn't just add more exercise, especially if you're not getting progress. They're going to monitor you for signs that you're not adapting and adjust accordingly. But first, this is a highly educated question, another one really. Most women are not asking this. So if you you acknowledge and understand why you should, then you're way ahead of the crowd. What a knowledgeable coach might say— they should mention subjective markers like sleep quality, or sleep quality, mood, motivation, and objective markers, meaning those that we can measure, like your HRV, your heart rate variability. That's that space between heartbeats. It should be very variable, not the same pattern. And if used, it's not always, but if you have a tracker that's telling you, we want to know that. Your strength performance, are you getting stronger for the time you're putting in? Body composition changes, meaning are you gaining lean muscle? Are you losing fat? If in fact we're trying to do one or the other or both. And hormonal indicators, if you're a woman who is still cycling and with any predictability. Now I know I know in midlife that gets challenging, but menstrual cycle changes in perimenopause or symptoms flaring is something to observe. And we might be able to take that and say, "Okay, this is not necessarily great for you if you're having more hot flashes and night sweats and you're doing this schedule." So he or she, your coach, would be quick to reinforce your need for an adequate diet, whether or not you eat you eat pre-workout or how soon you eat post. If your daily caloric intake and your protein and carbs is too low, your recovery and your outcome will suffer. You are not going to rush to weight loss. You're going to probably rush to fat storage if you do this. So you don't have to track religiously, by the way, but a coach can help you review just a recall of what you ate yesterday, what time you got up, what, what you ate, What was your activity? And give you in a snapshot, okay, you know, is that good, bad, or could you stand to eat a little bit more? Or where could that have come? Or asking you questions about, did you consciously try not to eat? Or tell me about that. They should be asking you things like that. And number 7, how do you integrate resistance training with cardiovascular work for optimal body composition? In menopause. So why does this matter? The outdated advice of cardio for weight loss and, and weights for muscle misses the metabolic complexity of menopause. The science, or sequence, the frequency, the intensity of each matters significantly. With moderate intensity exercise, we see the most dysregulation. I'm going to say that again for the people in the back. With moderate exercise intensity, we see the most dysregulation of glucose and cortisol. Isn't that a shock? Because what I told you to do, like, make sure you're in that fat-burning zone, that sweet space, right? Get in that target heart rate zone during your workout throughout the '90s at the very least. I don't know when the last time I said that was, but it was too recently, I can tell you that. But with high intensity and total recovery when you're doing that, by the way, and with walking at lower levels, we see the most optimization of fat and the greatest sustainability, less amount of injury occurring when you do that. What a knowledgeable coach might say: they should discuss the interference effect, the role of AMPK versus mTOR signaling, the benefit of "Separating modalities or doing resistance training first and then potential for polarized training approaches?" Let me say that in a different way. Ideally, you're doing cardio one day, strength another. Separate the two. Don't mix them up. Those boot camp type classes that have you going back and forth between, "Oh, I'm going to do battle ropes and get my breathlessness in, and then I'm going to go and I'm going to do squats or chest press." You know, and you think you're slugging around weights, so you're strength training and you're moving really hard and fast and you're looking at the wall at your heart rate and seeing, oh, oh, I'm in the orange zone. And you know, here's the deal, both strength and your cardiovascular capacity get watered down. It gets muddy and murky. You're not working at capacity in either one. It feels hard. And you're moving around a lot and your brain gets a little fix. You like, oh my gosh, that was such a great class, because it is a great buzz for your brain. However, you haven't been working as fast as you can, your heart rate hasn't been as high as it could, and you haven't truly reached muscular fatigue with the weight that you can lift. It's just not great for either. Now, if you love that and that is your junk, you know, your junk Miles, for me, it would be a really long bike ride or an hours-long hike. That's my junk because that doesn't necessarily increase my fitness level any. And if anything, it might set me backward because the time to recover from something like that is much longer. And I don't like to recover, I like to do. So you have to think about what is your real goal and are you doing the right workout in order to accomplish that goal. If you want to have better longevity, you want higher VO2 max and higher leg strength, you better be lifting as heavy as you can on those squats, and you better be getting to breathlessness with the speed that you're able to achieve, not just getting tired. And there's a big difference from that. So by all means, if there's activities that don't quite fit— this is optimizing your, your menopause journey or your longevity— but you still love them, by all means, there's room for that. Just like there's room for dessert and chocolate cake and whatever. But you want to be careful that that's not your everyday thing. Okay, question number 8, and this is the last one in the first half: what's your approach to exercise selection for bone density when someone has osteopenia or osteoporosis. Why does this matter? I know you know the answer to this one. Weight-bearing exercise is a woeful vague answer. So we know we need more than that. Loading patterns, impact forces, and progressive overload for bone need to be specific and be safe. What a knowledgeable coach might say in response to this question. They should mention axial loading. What is that? That is your limbs, your arms and legs. The importance of impact jump training when appropriate. The role of multidirectional forces and specific contraindications if fracture risk is significant and present. And they might reference Belinda Beck, Dr. Dr. Belinda Beck out of Australia's LIPTMORE protocol or similar evidence-based approaches. However, a knowing coach will also tell you how to start and progress. Belinda Beck's program was 5 reps, 5 sets. That's really heavy. However, what we know about the first year of lifting and bone density is that you can start light, progress just to moderate, which is about 15 reps, and you can increase your bone density for about up to 48 weeks just doing that. However, that's the time, you know, between a DEXA scan the first time and a DEXA scan the second time. So you should see some positive change. And then, by all means, I want you to hear this: the LIFT MORE study, that 5 sets times 5 reps, it proved heavy weightlifting and high impact are safe for women with osteoporosis. It did not disprove that lighter weights also work to improve bone density. But somehow that is the message that's being twisted. And we have to realize that is a terrible message to give to any woman who's just starting or who's starting and starts to find, I keep getting injured. We're not giving you as much time as you need for adaptation of those joints, the ligaments, and the tendons. So don't be confused and be sure that you question. You're there to drill this coach. You haven't hired them yet. Make sure you want to before you do. Okay. Are you ready? Part 2. Before I dive into this part 2, and this is questions your coach should ask you. I want to just give you a plug. If you are a coach, you're a trainer, and/or you are a medical exercise specialist, we of course host the Flipping 50 Menopause Fitness Specialist training, and we have since 2018. It is probably the most robust coach training out there, and we also combine that with helping you build your business. But if you're a medical practitioner and you just want to know, how do I prescribe exercise in a much better way, say more than lift weights or start walking or do jump training. If you want to know the exact— here's the protocol, and here's how you start somebody who's at X or somebody who's at Y, and here's how you suggest they progress. What's the criteria so that they get better, not hurt? I have the course. It's called the Exercise Prescription Programming for Women 40 Plus, and it is meant for physicians with patients, with trainers and health coaches with clients, so that you actually know all of the variables around exercise programming as they relate to women over 40. We're talking about their hormones, their exercise age and experience, their limitations— because we've all got them— and the outcome, the number one priority that they've got. I will teach you how to assess and to plug that in very easily and give you handouts to share directly with your patients. All right, let's dive into this. These are questions that your coach should ask you, and this too is like you interviewing them. You're able to look and know if you're interviewing a coach and they don't ask questions like these, I'd say it's your red flag. These questions show a coach is thinking deeply about your unique situation, not just about plugging you into a template. And adding another client to their roster. Number 1: Can you describe your energy patterns throughout the day, and have they changed recently? So why it reveals thoughtful coaching: this question probes circadian rhythm, adrenal function, blood sugar regulation, training time optimization. A coach asking this is thinking about when to train you and not just what exercises to program What it makes you think about. When do you feel best? Are you forcing morning workouts when you're a wreck until noon? Are you night training and then wondering why your sleep is terrible? Question number 2, what does your exercise history look like? And more importantly, what does your rest history look like? Wow, that's a great coach. Why this reveals thoughtful coaching, most coaches ask about exercise but they don't ask about recovery. The sophisticated ones ask about that, and they'll be asking if you've noticed it takes longer for you to recover recently, or that you're tired all the time from the training that you've been used to doing for years. If you've been grinding for years and adding more isn't the answer, then that is the understanding of why this question is so important. What it should make you think about is, have you ever taken adequate rest or have you just pushed through? Do you know what recovered feels like? And are you afraid to rest because you think you'll lose progress? By the way, you may be pleasantly surprised. Number 3, how do you know when you're hungry versus when you're eating out of habit or stress or because it's time? Why this reveals really thoughtful coaching, this question assesses, you know, to just a different awareness of your own ability to read your body's signals. And it opens the door to discussing emotional eating, true physiological needs, whether you're actually eating enough. Many midlife women under-eat protein and calories while over-exercising. What it makes you think about is, can you actually feel hunger cues? Do you eat pre-workout just because you think you should, or are you eating because you're hungry? Are you eating when you're not hungry? Are you ignoring hunger cues at all? What symptoms that you experience day to day do you think are normal for your age versus things that you believe could be improved? Ooh, I love this question. It really tells you that potentially a coach is trying to learn whether you have this learned helplessness and limiting belief about aging, or you believe that your actions will cause a reaction that you want and you can control your future. Many women have accepted joint pain, brain fog, anxiety as inevitable when they can often be improved. Your coach is trying to find out who are you, and probably are you somebody they want to work with. So it should make you think about what have you settled for? What have you just thought, well, maybe I just need to get used to that? Why haven't you mentioned that you assumed nothing could be done, or have you? And what symptoms have you normalized that are actually red flags that you can change. Or as the way I like to think about it is data. Symptoms are just data telling you what you're doing right now is causing this. Do you want to change? Next question is, when do you think your body in 10 years, or when you think about your body 10 years from now, what specific abilities do you want to be able to maintain or to have improved? It reveals really thoughtful coaching and getting you from thinking about aesthetics— our vanity, let's face it— to function and longevity. And it doesn't mean you don't want to look a certain way, and there's nothing wrong with that, but it also reveals what you truly value. And that might be very different from what you think you should value. What it makes you think about is, are you training for the body you want next month or for the capacity that you need for the next decade? Do your current training choices support your long-term goals? And what are you willing to sacrifice or not to in order to get there? Next question is, describe a perfect training week for you. What would it include and what would it what would you like to exclude? And this is kind of a sneaky coaching question. Compliance is queen, but a coach who asks you this is trying to build a program that you'll actually do. They want to know what you enjoy. Potentially, they want to know how many days a week you actually see yourself doing this, and they want you to see yourself doing it. That's really important. Not just seeing the changes you want, but seeing yourself doing the work and putting it in the schedule. It should make you think about about what you actually enjoy doing and where you white-knuckling yourself through things you don't even like to do and potentially are going to drop out of. But there should also be then things that maybe you don't love, but you realize the value of them for doing the things you love longer during your life. Next question is, what is your relationship with your body right now? Are you working with it or trying to force it into submission? You know, this is a great coaching question. It gets to the heart of body trust, body esteem, and whether your training philosophy is rooted in self-care or self-loathing. It matters because your nervous system knows the difference. And what it makes you think about is, are you exercising from a place of self-respect and self-care or self-criticism? Criticism? Do you trust your body to respond to training or do you feel like you have to manipulate it? And maybe having you think about where that belief came from would be valuable. Next question, we're on number 8, hang in there. What forms of movement bring you joy that have nothing to do with changing your body? So coach asking this understands that sustainable fitness includes pleasure and play and purpose beyond aesthetics and maybe even beyond strength or VO2 max. They're looking for ways to connect with you and give you some intrinsic motivation. You want to do it. So what it should make you think about is when did exercise become only something you do because you want to change your body or you're not happy with something? What movement did you love as a younger woman or a little girl even? And what would you do if weight loss were not a factor and you just felt free in your body? Question number 9, and there are 2 left. If you could improve only one thing in the next 6 months, what would it be and why? So this coach really is intelligent, making you think and force your prioritization and looking at your underlying values. What is that one thing? What would it be? And, you know, how long you hesitate might be something that coach should factor in, because if you can answer right away, it's probably really on your heart, not your head. What it should make you think about is what do you really want? Is the goal that you stated what you truly want or is it what you think you should want? What's beneath that goal? If you say, "Lose 20 pounds," a good coach should ask you why and keep asking you why. What's important about that? And keep asking again what's important about that because it's never just about the weight. It's about, I just don't want to, you know, get old and get sick. And, and I would say, what's important about that? Well, I just, you know, never wanted to do that. I wanted to retire and be able to do things. And what's important about that? Well, I don't want to be a burden on anybody else and have somebody have to take care of me, right? So now we're getting to really the emotional things. That's, that's the cry-wah. And if a coach is looking for that, they really want to know who you are. They're not just asking you to get out your credit card and tell you how much 10 sessions is going to be. That's a great coach. So last but not least, number 10 is what parts of your current lifestyle are you absolutely unwilling to change? Now, for, for me, I've asked this question before and the answer was champagne. I'm not willing to give up champagne. And We had a real problem because this client wanted to lose weight, specifically belly fat. And I said, "We're going to have a problem," right? But here's the deal. The question surfaces potential obstacles really early, like this one with my client. You know, I told her immediately, "I can get you stronger. We can lift weights." I can help prevent injury. Maybe we can work on bone density. But until you give up the champagne or significantly reduce it or change the sequence in which you drink that champagne, we're probably not going to do a lot for your weight loss and your belly fat. And that was simply an honest answer. So what it should make you think about is where are your true boundaries? Are you really ready to change? Many of us want change, change outcomes, but we're not necessarily ready to make changes. So what trade-offs are you willing to make? And what maybe have you been pretending that you'll change but know deep down that you won't? I had to get really honest with myself about— I would love to improve my gut health, and I think not drinking coffee would do that. That, but let's get serious, I'm not going to do that. So, so I've made some other compromises instead in order to do that. But that's really what you've got to do is get honest with yourself and say, you know, where's a hard line? This is going to be a part of my life and not willing to give that up because maybe that is quality of life for you. Nothing wrong with that. We've all got to find it. I hope that this has been helpful. So there's 10 questions that ideally your coach should ask you, or if you are listening, I just gave you the answers. These are things that you ideally want to use to interview your next potential client. I also gave you 8 questions if you're interviewing a coach or a trainer considering hiring them. There are still 9 not a lot of really truly trained menopause fitness coaches out there. It's something that's relatively new, and I want you to understand that even medical physicians didn't have the word menopause mentioned. Even OB-GYNs, who we would all assume they, they do, they did, they know— they don't. They didn't learn that in medical school. And so I want you to understand that health coaches, personal trainers, fitness instructors, even medical exercise specialists— 4-year degrees and master's degrees and PhDs for that matter— unless their dissertation or thesis was directly related to hormones and menopause, they didn't have that in school. They didn't, didn't have it. We didn't mention the word menopause in a 4-year degree. I taught those courses for 16 years. I saw students come into their core courses, the ones that begin when you're a sophomore, the prerequisite, and the next, and the next, and the next, and taught all the way to internship supervision, the last thing students did in a 4-year degree before graduation. No mention of menopause. Now it's been almost 15 years since I— 12 since I taught in the classroom and supervised, but have colleagues still there who tell me still no. And the reason is this: there's not time. There's not time to get a student in and out and give them the basics in 4 years, nor in a basic certification. We have so much foundation work to do because many people are buying a certification textbook, studying diligently passionately about fitness, but they haven't had any hardcore background in many cases. And so there's much to teach, nuts and bolts, and menopause is but one of the things that women will go through and it's not touched on yet. Hopefully that's coming, but it's why we started the Menopause Fitness Specialist. If you have questions, come over to flipping50.com, ask them. We have a contact place where you can ask questions. You can join us on the Facebook group. Facebook group, Flipping 50 Insiders. That's Flipping 5-0 Insiders. I still read most of my DMs and respond to them myself. So if you leave me a message there, there's a good chance I will respond to you there. Thank you so much for listening. If this podcast is helpful, please share it with a friend. 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