Whole Body Vibration for Menopause

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Welcome. I'm looking forward to the convo.

So we're starting with a huge smile on my face, a little laugh because of what just occurred behind the scenes. I feel like it's unfair not to let my listeners in on this. So first of all, I'm going to start with the same question I asked you behind the scenes, and that is, everybody, you know, we're talking about whole body vibration for women over I'm gonna take that back. We're gonna go over 40 because of all of the things that happen so early that if we could catch them sooner would not be problematic hopefully for us later. And we wouldn't be dealing with the backlash. We'd be in prevention mode and getting more thriving as opposed to just catching up and surviving. But I asked you, when you're not on the advisory board for a company like Power Plate, where we're talking whole body vibration, which is my favorite tool of choice. What is it that you do?

And you said, uh, coach, and I educate in all things health and human performance all around the world in over 100 current, uh, countries in 27 years, from individuals to teams to entire organizations. That's my joy. That's what I love to get out of bed and do.

And, you know, I commented on Every coach and, and personal trainer, fitness instructor will identify with this. I mean, it's, it's one of the best jobs in the world. We get to, you know, know every day when we get up we're gonna have a positive impact on people's lives. And your comment to that was, yeah, we're not selling cigarettes. Thank God. Thank God.

And you think you're having a bad day, you think your day's busy, and you have to check yourself and say, hold on, what I'm doing is making the world a a little bit better than I found it, right?

That's so true. It's so true. I always used to— we used to tell everybody who, you know, even worked at the front desk in a fitness center, I mean, best job ever, because almost nobody ever leaves in a worse mood than when they came in. It's always a better mood. So we know we've done something good. So to anybody who's listening who is still not sure what is whole body vibration and how can it contribute to overall wellness? Let's start there.

Well, you know, the 1,000-foot CliffsNotes is it's really simple. These incredible platforms, they don't just shake, they move up and down. They leave your, your body, whether it's your feet, your hands, your elbows, whatever you're doing, and they come back 30 to 50 times a second. As a result, two magical things happen. Every time you're walking down the street, if the earth was to leave you, every tissue in your body, your brain, your muscles, your joints go, holy, I need to turn on. The ground just went missing. So your body reflexively turns on, then the ground comes back. As a result of the ground coming back, it applies gravity and ground reaction force. That's kind of the game. Because when we go up into space, our astronauts, our athletes in space, they rapidly lose muscle, bone, and function because there's no gravity. So what do these things do? They apply gravity and ground reaction force to your body 30 to 50 times a second without the impact of jumping up and down. So whatever you do on the ground, you do on the plate, only you magnify it. It's like business class. So, you know, you're doing what you do on the ground, but with exponentially Faster responses and results. That's it. That's what it does. And we know unequivocally in 25 years of studies now, I mean, there are hundreds, hundreds from bone to muscle to photobranched to cognition to inflammation to metabolic to oxygen. We know it works. That's not a secret anymore. So that's how it works. And that's kind of what it does. It's a game changer.

It is such a game changer. And I, I want to talk about its application to so many different populations. Of course, to the ones here. But when we look at this, I think, you know, for anybody thinking about, do I really need that, or do I want that piece of— do I want that tool? It is for everybody in your household. You know, I don't care if you've got teenage sons, you know, who are— I wish I'd had it when my son was, you know, in golf, you know, so he could have used it. And for the older adults, maybe for your peers in your home who are not able to do as much as they like for their— either stimulating their muscle mass or stimulating bone density. This is like, okay, but you can do this, right? It's not as hard on your body. And I want to say this again for the people in the back who weren't sure they heard this correctly, okay? 30 to 50 times more a second.

Yeah.

Right? So we're not talking about get your ground impact jumps in, you know, and 10 to 20 jumps 4 times during the day. We're talking this is happening thousands each second to you, for you, without you having to jump.

Let's say you're on there doing a squat. I don't like the name because basically if you get on and off the toilet, you're squatting. If you get in and out the car, you're squatting. So let's just say you sit down and stand up on the, on a power plate, which is my product of choice. You might count 10 repetitions, you may count 20 repetitions, it's irrelevant. You've done hundreds of contractions. So that's the difference is it's about time and effort. And so on the ground, 10 reps is 10 reps. Yes, you can change your speed, you can change the load, very important. You need those. Life is variable demands in variable directions and speeds, picking up your kids and your groceries, very true. But I can use my body, or my body plus extra weight on the Power Plate, and it's thousands of subconscious muscle contractions in the same period of time. So it really is business class, you know, you're going to the same place on the same plane, only I flew a bit better. Yeah, I use traditional, I use everything. But yeah, without a doubt, in my recipe of health and performance. It's one of the primary ingredients for all of my population, from 8-year-olds to 85-year-olds. Everyone's getting a dose of vibration. How much, how often depends on who you are, your goals, your health status. But everybody's using it as a, as an ingredient in their recipe. That I can guarantee you.

That is so good. And so when we're talking specifically about, you know, for our audience, Those of you who are on my, say, email subscription list, you know that I'm sharing regularly, you know, here are the results for bone density testing and what's been done using specific protocols or muscle activation. But when I put something out there like 138% more muscle activation, it sounds way too good to be true, right? And yet now you have a little bit better understanding of how that could happen and why that's so important, especially especially if somebody is compromised. But Scott, I don't know about you, I'm not compromised. I'm able to lift heavy and I can do high impact, and even I had osteopenia show up in 3 different spots. Yeah, yeah, right. So I wanted the added insurance. Okay, it's like, what else can I do? Well, 11 months later You know, every one of those 3 had improved. 2 of them were gone, and one of them will be by the time I test again because I'm determined to specifically use that.

Yeah, well, I love your analogy. I'm going to steal that. It's— I call it money in the bank. It's compound interest. You know, I also work— you know, I'm 50 myself, and I work with people 50 through 85, but I also work with elite athletes. Yeah, 20 to 35. From rugby to soccer to tennis at the peak, you don't think they're in pain. You don't think they're getting injured. You don't think they're not sleeping enough. You don't— with all the travel and the pressure. And you'd be shocked at the, the 2% gain we can get in the elite by using vibration because they're already performing at the highest level. So what's that 2% we can give them? Well, you're stressed. You've played 3 soccer matches this week at a high level. You've traveled between cities to do it. You haven't slept. You've been in a hotel room. You're eating on the road. Can you handle that heavy load in the gym today? Ideally, you could, but sometimes you can't.

Right.

But I can put you on a Power Plate and get the same force and power outputs. And I really mean that. I could do an increased muscle activation if I know how to use it right. It's not a case of just stand on it and magic happens. You've got to know how to use it. And my athletes love it. They say, coach, it feels good. Coach, I got less pain. And they did more work in less time. Well, that's a win at the highest level, because all they're doing is training, practicing, competing.

Yeah.

So, you know, it's the same ingredient, but we changed the recipe based on who it's for. And I'm convinced, like, for me, the kids, the youth, I think it's the magic. Because we have the first generation of youth scheduled to die younger than their parents in history. Yeah, from adult onset of diseases in childhood. It sounds like an oxymoron. So as children, they're getting the same cardiovascular risk factors, the same metabolic risk factors. 8, 10, 12-year-olds are already losing bone. It's crazy. Diabetes used to be an adult thing. Nope, not now. So by the time they get to adulthood, they're already sick with adult diseases. And we know physical activity is down. Mental health, stress is up, demands on school and neurotic academic demands is through the roof. They don't have time to move. They're told to sit down, be quiet and study. I can't think of a better game changer in your house. I've had it in my house for my children growing up, thankfully. 3 times a week, 20 minutes, game done. You don't have time to go to the gym. I wish you did. I would take you, but you got 17 hours of homework because your crazy school said you got to do them to be perfect. So I think it has a role in everybody. And it's why for 20 years now, I've used it in every environment you can imagine. It's 20 years of using it, and it just gets better for me. I think it— I'm seeing things that it does now that we didn't know then. For example, what it does in cognitive decline, what it does in cerebral brain fluid, what it does in BDNF of the brain. That's Miracle-Gro. Yes, the bone, we know it works. We know it works. We've known for 25 years. They do it to go into space to prevent bone loss. It literally was rocket science, right? So we know what it does for bone, muscle strength, power, fall prevention. Check, check, check. Now we're seeing that it decreases inflammation. Oof. Increases Miracle-Gro in the brain.

Yeah. What?

That's a bigger bucket. That's a bigger bucket than just strength and power. That's like health, longevity, disease. Yeah, wellness. So I, I think we're only just tapping into it, to be honest.

Yeah, I do too. And so good. And I mean, you really tapped into exactly how does it help, you know, for all of the challenges that women who are listening here and/or that all of you are going to share with your friends, by the way, because almost everybody you know needs this in some way. But the challenge is unique to women who are listening are, yes, we need the bone density, and yes, we need the muscle activation. We cannot lose that. But then there's the— what you mentioned with the athletes who don't have time, and/or maybe they don't have the adequate rest, so they need to get more done in less time. That's so true of midlife women as well. Their muscle and their bone needs stimulus. However, they're in adrenal fatigue, so they actually shouldn't necessarily be getting the volume that it would require. So in this, they don't necessarily have to.

Exactly right. And then you go into hormones and the impact that has on everything.

Yeah, right.

Like, I mean, everything. So again, middle-aged women, whether it's perimenopause, menopause, even post-menopause, okay, we have to look at things differently. The physiology is different, the psychology is different. So looking at what this does metabolically, hormonally, I think is really exciting, especially in a time in our evolution, in our history, where we're shifting away from— I hope we're shifting from being skinny to being strong.

Yeah.

You know, because ultimately losing muscle and bone is not good, but I'm convinced that losing functional strength and power is even worse.

You know, and I want to, I want to interrupt you just for a second, but yeah, losing muscle. I want to, I want to rephrase that, and I want to put this to you if you're listening, but we're not just losing muscle because we're aging. We, some of us, because we've been wanting to be smaller and shrink for so long We're forfeiting it. I mean, we're part of the problem.

It is the problem, right? And I actually, I love what you're saying. I would be so bold, take what you want, leave the rest. It's just opinions. A lot of it based in science that losing muscle and bone as we age is not the benchmark. You don't have to lose muscle and bone as you age. You don't have to, but it's compared to normative data. But if most of the population is sick and sedentary, then I shouldn't aspire to normal. So I see no reason why the body doesn't continue to adapt, because all tissues in the body adapt to stress. And if you stress it in an intelligent way, it will rebuild and be more resilient than it's ever been. You can have more muscle, more strength, more power in your 50s than you did in your 30s, guaranteed. So what's the age at which it stops? I don't know who made that up.

Yeah, well, and so good. And I also, to like embellish on what you've just said, this is historical when you're hearing— and I've said it too, so I've got to be careful and cautious when I say it— but we say on average women lose, or men can lose, 3 to 8% of muscle mass a decade after the age of 30. But you don't have to. Like, historically, that's what we've seen. But if we are the first generation that have been lifting weights till death do us part, things are going to change. If we now have, have tools like whole body vibration, you know, yes, we may age. Yes, muscles, bones that are 80 will potentially be somewhat less resilient than when we were 19, but not compared to what our parents or grandparents were.

100% agree. And if you look at every organ in the body, just take your liver, just your liver as an example, you could lose up to 75% of your liver through nutrition, drink, smoke, lifestyle. Okay, but one year later, if you took those toxic stressors out and added the healthy solutions in, within a year, your 75% dead liver has regenerated to 100% normal. So if it's possible that an organ can go from like nearly dead to 100% good in a year, yeah, it would imply that every cell in the body can regenerate if it's given the right environment. It's the same with the brain and neuroplasticity. We can literally change the structure and function of the brain. But we can't do it with bone? Like, how did the system like malfunction that way that we can change your brain, we can change your liver, but bones, you're done forever. It's always downhill. It seems like a simplistic argument rather than facing the real solution, which is let's change the way we think about it and like the choices we make. I think it's just a singular injustice to a more complex problem.

Absolutely. And to anybody who's listening right here, I wanna tell you that it could be you, but I've literally had this conversation and with someone who was looking at a YouTube video that I shared about— and, and in it I might have commented that we've had people reverse bone density. And one of the myths is that you're over 40, you're over 50, you can't do that. All you're going to do is slow the loss that you have going on. And I said no. And a woman really wanted to defend this. I mean, she said well, I asked my brother and his wife, and they're both doctors, and they said no, it's impossible to, to reverse. And I'm like, therein lies part of the problem. So, um, just know you are going to continue to hear this because, you know, some in conservative circles are going to continue to relay what they once learned as opposed to keeping up with what's actually true. Scott, can we unpack some protocols? So if we said, okay, somebody, somebody said, okay, I'm on board, I have access to Power Plate or to whole body vibration, I want to use it, and I want to use it specifically to improve my bone density. I got a DEXA, I'm scared, don't want that to happen. Talk a little bit about protocols.

Yeah.

What would they want to do for how long?

Instead of giving you the full A to Z, because that would take forever, right?

Yeah.

Let's give you the fundamentals, the non-negotiables.

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Number one, the more weight bearing, the better. Yeah, you can put any part of your body on there and you're going to get some stimulation, some circulation. Little caveat. I'm convinced that for bone mineral, we need three crucial things. Number one, you need the muscles to be creating tension and pull on the bones. So if your muscles aren't contracting, contracting, there's really nothing going on. And they create like a tensile stress on the bone. Then you need compressive stress, gravity, ground reaction. Thus, you need to be weight bearing. I think the third magic source is circulation, because your red blood cells are living in your bone marrow. So there's clearly an intricate connection between red blood cells, cardiovascular health, and bone health. I would see that as, as evidence in science. So you could be on there doing a massage or a stretch and get some kind of benefit. But the real magic is when you're loading your body with dynamic movement in a weight-bearing way, whether that's your squatting, your lunging, your pushing, your pulling, whatever. Now, you might need to progress up to that based on where you start, but you want to get to full weight-bearing dynamic activity on the plate because then it gives you all three. The second thing is the dials. I call them the intensity dials, frequency and amplitude. Yeah, well, that's like a whole different language. It's not like sets and reps on a dumbbell.

That's right.

So I— you can dial up or dial down. So there's two primary ways people go, even though there's infinite little variations. One, the endurance route. I'm just going to keep moving, low intensity, not really going to rest. Great metabolically. Your oxygen capacity will go up, your metabolic demand will go up, your caloric expenditure will go up. Not so good for your muscle and bone. We need to go the opposite. Your intensity needs to go up. What does that mean? You're working hard, but you better rest between your sets. Why? Because we're going again. And if you're just doing something where you can sustain it, guess what? You're not above the threshold you really need to be at to stimulate the muscle and bone. So get dynamic, get weight-bearing, but ultimately you've got to turn up those intensity dials. Don't be scared to. Here's the kicker: it has an inverse relationship with your rest. As intensity goes up, your volume goes down. So you're doing less, but you're doing it harder. That is the secret sauce. The idea of doing low intensity consistently for 20 minutes, health benefits, metabolic benefits, I don't think that's really going to give you the bone and muscle adaptations that you're looking for. Because otherwise, just standing on your feet for 8 hours a day is a stress on the bone. Okay, not remotely the same as doing squats and jumps and hops and bounds. So clearly, dynamic intensity is where the magic happens. So that's in a nutshell. You want to start going to dynamic intensity, turn up the dials, less volume, more rest. Why? Because we're going again, we're repeating the stress. And then as you lay down new muscle and bone tissues, model along the line of stress, they're more resilient than the last ones. So to keep challenging them, you've got to go above your threshold. Mm-hmm. And the idea that as we age intensity should go down is the worst narrative out there. Because if you're 65, 75, and you want to pick up your grandkid, guess what? They weigh 30, 40, 50 pounds.

And they're not losing weight over time.

No, and they're not just standing there like a prick. They're jumping around. They want you to throw them in the air. Okay, but all you've ever done is a 2-pound dumbbell. How are you going to throw a 30-pound kid in the air and catch them? So how are you going to carry your groceries up the stairs? I think as we age, intensity becomes more of a necessity.

Absolutely.

Not just physiologically, but psychologically, because then when you go to do this thing, play with your grandkids, pick up your groceries, carry your laundry, life is dynamic and chaotic. If you're not mentally prepared for that, that's often what shuts people down. And now they say, I'll have my groceries delivered because I don't trust that when I go to the store, I'm not going to fall over. So you— is it neck down, neck up? Yes and yes. I think intensity wins on both battles.

Yeah, I love that. And I, you know, I love to say this, and that is that, you know, no matter how old you are right now, you've never needed intensity in your exercise more than you have right now. So if you're listening and you're 70, you're listening and you're 80, you're listening and you're, you know, 48, you've never been this age before. But Here's the thing, those of you that think, well, I'm slowing down, probably it's because you have slowed down, right? You know, and if we all— you know, Scott, I'm sure there's the same— turn around and look behind yourself at all the things we've done in our life, we've tolerated, we've been through, we've recovered from. I mean, we're not meek. We are stronger than we've ever been. Yeah, because of the experiences we've had. And you can tap into that. Don't forget who you are. And where you've been.

So, and what's interesting to me now is if you look at the science out there now in longevity, not just living longer, but living longer vibrant with the freedom to do what you want to do, right? Yeah, I don't just want to live longer and sicker. No, thank you.

Yeah.

Of the top 4 things that are markers of you're more likely to do this, lower body power, not posture, not mobility, not balance, they're all important. Unequivocally the number one thing is lower body power is linked to fall prevention. Lower body power is linked to social freedom. Lower body power is actually linked to cognitive decline, meaning if you don't have it, there's much greater chance you're going to suffer from cognitive decline. I find it fascinating that your lower body, which is how you explore the world, how you walk around, is highly correlated to how long you stay on the planet healthy. You only develop that by being dynamic, by being explosive, by adding intensity. It's power. Number one thing for fall prevention is power, not balance. I find that interesting. So if you're not training for it, you ain't got it.

Yeah, so love that. Yep. And just so anybody here who feels they're compromised, you know, we're talking lower body strength and immediately A lot of people will go, well, I can't squat because my knees hurt. You know, I think this is where Power Plate may come in. So you're able to at least stand. You're able to stand with maybe a 2-inch flexion at your knees. And, you know, maybe because you do that, that begins to feel better because we're strengthening and activating those muscles. Maybe you end up being able to go a little bit lower than you thought, but you are activating more muscle simply by being there. Talk a little bit about rest and recovery. I know you alluded to it. Um, but I want to clarify it for, for not only listeners but for myself in terms of rest and recovery. So when we're doing— when I'm doing some programming for somebody, I also know and keep keenly in my mind time is one of the biggest obstacles. And so if I can give somebody rest and recovery, say from an upper body exercise, by now going to a lower body exercise Talk to me about how that fits in with potentially also being able to shorten the time someone might be using Power Plate and, and your feeling on if they've gone from a standing bent-over row to doing a squat, you know, on the, on the plate. Do they need rest in your estimation to justify that they've worked hard enough in the other exercise?

Ah, yeah, it's a great question. So yes and, all right, not all, it's an and. If for example I'm training for strength and power and my intensity is high, let's say I've got a lower body exercise like a squat, single leg squat, whatever it is, and I got an upper body exercise like a bent row. Yeah, from exercise A to exercise B, maybe I did 30 seconds, 30 seconds. Okay, this was as hard as I could do, this was as hard while I'm doing this, I'm getting some rest from this. Working up, I'm getting some lower. But because you're still on the plate doing that upper body row, there's still a lot of muscle activation going on. You're going to need to rest. You do exercise 1, exercise 2, you're going to have to rest because even when you're doing that bent row, your legs were on the plate, which means they're firing 30 times a second. Yeah, maybe not as hard as the squat. Yeah, but they weren't exactly fully recovering. But you can still get smarter and combine movements where you do get a full recovery of a different kind of muscle. For example, push-up to a deadlift. Okay. When there's no conflict. Perfect. So you can get really smart and I don't need that rest or minimal. But if I'm doing back-to-back movements where the same movement patterns and tissues are being used.

Yeah.

Yeah. You got to rest. Or what happens, and this is in traditional training too, Because we don't get enough, enough rest, the next set, our force goes down, our potential intensity goes down. We keep working, but we're actually getting less and less output. Now, heart rate's going up, so we're working hard. So at the end of 20, 30 minutes ago, man, I worked hard. Yeah, but that effort is not intensity. Effort is not intensity.

I love you so much right now. Yes, right.

And so I could run a marathon, maximum effort, I'm exhausted. Okay, that's not the same as sprinting 100 meters in the Olympics as fast as you can. Like, the 100-meter sprint, that's maximum intensity.

Yeah.

And, you know, a marathon is maximum effort, but clearly running for 4 hours is not the same intensity as sprinting as hard as I can.

Gosh, yeah.

So yeah, don't confuse effort with intensity. That's what a lot of people do.

Yeah, I so love that. And I, I'm in a give that a little bit of an analogy, anybody listening. And this is where when somebody tells me, well, I'm intermittent fasting and I work really hard when I'm exercising. And, you know, here's what I think is that it feels hard because you have— yes, you have no fuel. But if we said, what's your true capacity, you know, and if you were fueled, could you go faster at capacity? Could you lift more at capacity? And you're cheating yourself from doing that. And what we're saying is that intensity matters. Just feeling hard is not enough. Yeah, this is so such gold. So, Scott, thank you so much. I would love to, to ask something for those who are, you know, living in a household with somebody who's compromised. You know, talk a little bit about the other side of things and circulation. You alluded to earlier and say lymphatic benefit. You know, I think there are people who think, well, you know, my husband is, you know, he's had ankle replacement, knee replacement, he can't really do much. And, and they're not thinking this would be a way, you know, for him to also benefit. Yeah.

Well, first of all, they need it more than anybody, which is why sports medicine, physical therapy, occupational therapy, chiropractors are using it. In the thousands globally. Think of this. If you go and have a bilateral hip replacement at 65 years of age today, it's brutal. If you ever watch one, it is brutal. They, they cut you open, they clamp you, they snap it, they cut out something that's been part of your body your whole life, throw it in the trash, and then they put something in that's not human. Then they stitch you up and say, go walk. The first thing they do is say, go walk, because they know If you don't move as soon as possible following surgery, it's going to get harder and harder to move. So my point is this. When you say, man, I've got a bad back, I've got a bad knee, I've had it for years. Motion is lotion. You need movement more than ever. What you don't need is movement that's going to exacerbate it. High impact, high stress, high load. Power Plate's your best friend. Because the fluids are the key. We are 90% fluid. We talk about 80% blood, right? But what about the lymph? What about water? We're actually 90% fluid. Every cell in the body requires that fluid to bring oxygen, blood, and nutrients in and toxins and waste products out. So when we're sedentary, that hose is not pumping. One of the biggest causes of pain in soft tissues like muscles is a cry for oxygen. Pain is often a cry for oxygen. Think of it, if you weren't getting enough oxygen, you'd scream pretty loud. Yeah, when we sit down all day, we push the fluids out of our tissues. Because there's no fluids, there's no oxygen. Because there's no oxygen, the brain says, I am slowly dying. So it screams at you. And you say, oh, I got a tight hamstring. You don't have a tight hamstring. You've got a starving, dehydrated hamstring that's screaming for fluids, hydration, and oxygen. So can you use the Power Plate to dampen pain, pump blood and oxygen around the body so that you feel better? Now you've got lotion, which means that the pipes move better. Guess what? Now movement's your friend, not your enemy. Motion is lotion. Just like post-surgery, the sooner you move, the better. So if you haven't moved due to pain and injury, you need it more than anybody. I think movement is the number one remedy to people in therapy. You don't go to physical therapy and lay in a bed. They ask you to move.

Yeah, so true. This is so good. Yeah. Having watched my mom at 87 go through that, you know, and then watch her again at 94 not fare so well, you know, doing the same. You know, I think it was very hard as a fitness professional, wellness professional, having talked about that for years, like that fall later in life is the beginning of the end. And I just had to watch it, watch it happen. So tough. Scott, thank you so much for being here. I think I could probably talk to you for another hour about this, but, but bottom line is you've really described so very well. You know, we talked about what is, what is whole body vibration, what is the value of it, the intensity that is so very important for muscle, for bone, and, and overall health and wellness as we age, to get the strength, but more importantly, potentially the power that we need to keep and/or get. Those of you who are maybe haven't been dealing with that and doing everything slow and controlled And what I want to ask next, because I think people are going to want to follow you, if not for anything else, for the accent. But where can, where can they find you, Scott?

My company is called Pivotal Coaching. So it's pivotalcoaching.com. You can find us on Instagram at pivotal_coaching. Most of what we do is we coach the coaches, we teach the teachers. So that's really what we travel the world doing is upgrading other professionals to do a better job. So if you want to follow us, Instagram's a great way because we're always dropping little, you know, 30, 60-second golds, and you'll see a lot of vibration on there too. We love it.

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