Why Green Should Be Your Favorite Color

What's your favorite color? Have you ever been asked this question before? If so, and I'm sure you have, because that's like a kindergarten question, right? You get asked it every single year. Today's episode is a short and quick one that might make you rethink your favorite color, just in case you don't have the same favorite color as my favorite color. You'll see what I mean in this episode. Today's episode is brought to you by Gardenary Garden Consultants. Listen. All of us need help with growing our green thumb, including myself. I love getting advice from other gardeners and those who've grown and done things that I haven't done yet. And that's what Gardenary Garden Consultants are here to help you do. Ever since I started my own business, Rooted garden, back in 2015, I had a passion to help other gardeners around the country start their own garden consulting businesses as well. And we have hundreds of gardeners who've been certified through the Gardenary system and are ready to serve you as your garden coach and consultant. So come and find them on the gardenary site@gardenary.com businesses or just click that little button up at the top that says Find a coach. There are so many gardeners all around the country and even across the world who are ready to help you in your garden this season. So check them out@gardenary.com now let's talk all about our favorite color and why we just might want to reconsider which hue is the one that we are drawn the most to. Let's get into it on the Grow youw Self Podcast. Welcome to the Grow youw Self podcast. Surprising stories about the food we eat and inspiring conversations about what it really takes to live the whole and happy life we're all craving. I'm Nicole Johnsey Burke, your host and the owner of Rooted Garden and Gardenary Incorporated and author of Kitchen Garden Revival. Is it obvious yet? I'm kind of obsessed with the kitchen garden. The kitchen garden may just be the answer that you've been looking for on your own journey to health and wholeness in this podcast, it's going to inspire and enable you to make garden magic right in your very own space. If you're someone who wants to eat more good food that's actually good for you, fill your day with great stories you want to text to a friend. If you want to hear more about inspiring people and do a little bit each day better than the way you did it the day before, Grow yourself is what your ears have been waiting for you won't just learn about gardening here, you'll learn how to make growing as a person a big part of your everyday life. And your life, your community. And your garden, of course, will be all the better for it. So put in your headphones, turn up the volume, and let's take a walk, go on a drive, or just hang out in the kitchen garden together. Welcome to Grow Yourself. Welcome back to the Grow youw Self podcast. I want to welcome you back. It has been a while, so we have been super busy and the first month of the year, January. Can't believe it's already over. And now February. And honestly the podcast, you know, it just got pushed to the back of the bus. But we're catching up now and so excited to bring you new episodes this month and every month after. So thank you for sticking around and for listening in. Last week, in case you missed it, I did a little trailer for one of my favorite gardening podcasts called Cultivating Place. So go check that episode out. It's just a little quick teaser about Cultivating Place and I'd love for you to go listen to Jennifer Jewell's amazing podcast. I know you'll find it inspiring. And earlier in January, I had an amazing guest, Marie Valla. I think I'm saying it right. She has an incredible podcast as well, and we talk all about houseplants, which is going to be relevant for what we're discussing today as well. So if you missed that episode, be sure to go back and listen, especially if you have interest in growing indoors. She had some amazing tips on how to be more successful growing indoors and I think you're going to love it. So check those two episodes out. And today we're actually going to have a short little episode, but it's all about something I've been studying about for quite some time and that is about color and the power of color in our lives. Now have you ever noticed when you're looking through a magazine or you're on Pinterest or some website and you see these gorgeous rooms and let's say you're even looking like flipping through a home magazine or I don't know, furniture, something, and everything's so perfectly set up and it's pretty sparsely decorated and then there plants in the room, so there might be a huge fiddle leaf, fig or lots of branches that have been cut and put in a beautiful vase, whatever it's set up, almost each and every one of those shots has a green plant in it. Have you noticed? I've noticed if you haven't noticed. Please go back and check it out. Look back at your favorite pinned photos of homes and rooms and furniture and test yourself and see if you don't see something green in each of those photos, because they're there. I promise. And today we're going to talk about why that is. So we're actually going to talk about the color green, what it means to us as humans and how it affects us when we see it. And that's why I'm going to try to convince you that green just might need to become your new favorite color for 2021. So if my kids ask me or if they fill out a form, you know how your kids fill out these things like mommy's favorite drink, and you're like, please don'. Put wine down. Anyway, they, you know, they bring me these forms for, like, Mother's Day or, I don't know, my birthday or whatever, and it says mommy's favorite color. And they always know my favorite color because for so long, it has been green. And I think if you met me back when I was a little kid, my favorite color was probably more like pink or purple, maybe turquoise, aquamarine. That was a really cool favorite color to have for a while. But as I became an adult, and especially in the last 10, 15 years, green and all hues of green have actually been the colors that I'm most drawn to. And science has a lot of reasons why that is the case. So in today's episode, we're gonna dive into four reasons why green is an amazing color. Green is a color you want to surround yourself with. And I have a few challenges to hand to you that you can do. Whether you have blue skies and warm air around you, or whether you're still stuck inside in the middle of a very col winter, these are a fun few challenges that you can do to bring more of this color into your life. So, first of all, the studies have shown that our eyes, as humans are drawn to the color green. In fact, studies have shown that when humans are kind of looking across a landscape or a photo or a painting or any particular view, that their eyes actually tend to rest and land on things that. That are green. In fact, it says that more than any other color in the rainbow, our eyes actually see green the most clearly. So. So interesting, right? It's interesting that even though we can view all the different colors, it's green that our eyes are most drawn to and that our eyes kind of rest on and get clear on most easily. So pretty cool. I think so. One Thing you can. One easy way to start bringing more green into your life, and I've tried to do this as much as possible, even in the middle of this very cold winter that we're going through here in the Chicago area, is always having something green on your plate. So whether it's breakfast or lunch or dinner, and whether you're having a salad or you're having, you know, something that's very far from a salad, always incorporating the color green into each dish that you have, even if it's like a quick sandwich that you're grabbing at lunch or something like that. So some ideas and easy ways you can incorporate this would be, for instance, if you're having an omelette at breakfast or even just some toast or toast and eggs to cut up some green chives. Chives grow so easily. We've talked about this before, and I reference it a lot in my book, Kitchen Garden Rev. Chives are one of the easiest and fastest things that you can grow as a beginner gardener. So, and one of the first that I started growing on my front porch in Nashville. They grow in containers super easily. So just adding some chives to an omelette or scrambled eggs or just even a plate of toast, cutting up something green to put right alongside your breakfast just kind of points you in the right direction. Like, hey, you know, I'm looking at a really great color and get you in the direction of feeling healthier and more centered. I have challenged myself in 2021 to drink a green drink every single morning. So it's becoming more of a practice. I think as of today, I've probably had probably like, 28, 29 days of green drinks this year. So I have skipped a few days. But trying my best to make this, like, a daily habit, something that I do every single morning, and just putting that green color in front of me. So those are two ways you could incorporate it into your breakfast. Just putting some chives on your omelette or next to your toast or having a green drink, and that is, like, seriously green. You're seeing a whole big cup full of nothing but green goodness at lunch. Obviously, you could totally have a salad, which is going to be green in almost its entirety. But even if you're having a salad or some soup, it's. It's always a great idea to just add some fresh herbs or to add a few lettuce greens to go alongside the other dish that you're eating, or, you know, again, pulling in chives, onions, things like that, that would just add to the Color on your dish. I love cutting some fresh parsley or having some pesto. Pesto is actually a great thing that you can save from your summer garden. And just putting a little bit of that on the side of my dish, even if it' not green, is not part of the main course. And then you can ditto this for dinner. So I try, even if I'm, say, giving my kids a, I don't know, a pasta dinner, right, where they're just having noodles and sauce to add some parsley, some fresh parsley on the side, or maybe some oregano that I've saved from my herb garden in the summer and crushing that up on the side of their pasta dish, any kind of way to let them see a little bit of green when they're eating their dinner. So it's a fun practice to incorporate. And you'll find that if you keep this top of mind, it's going to become more commonplace for you to have green on your plate. And even when you taste it or, you know, add that little herb or whatever to your meal, those little tastes will urge you to do more. And what I found is the more I incorporate those things into my everyday meals, the more I'm pushed and inclined to grow those things myself. So as I have a green smoothie every morning, that increases my desire to grow my own greens. Because I'm like, I'm getting tired of buying kale from the grocery, or this kale doesn't taste so great, or that spinach turned slimy pretty quickly. I'd really prefer to have it outside in my kitchen garden. So the more we pull in green to our plate and put it into our drinks, we're not only going to feel better just looking at the. The color of green as we eat our meals and drink our drinks, but I think it also encourages us to start growing a little bit more ourselves and adding those things into our garden plan. Oftentimes when we start to garden plan or look at, you know, seed catalogs or go to the store, we're kind of overwhelmed. Like, what do we. What do I grow? What do I buy? And one of the best, you know, kind of prerequisites or things to do before you go and buy is start incorporating things, even from the store into your everyday meals, bringing in more fresh green so that you're more clear on what you love and what you enjoy having in your everyday meals so that you can prioritize what you want to grow. So that's the first thing. So first is that science has proven that Our eyes love the color green. Our eyes see green most clearly. And then there's your first challenge, which is to go ahead and and start adding a little bit of green to every single plate that you serve up. So whether it's breakfast, lunch, dinner, maybe it's even a snack. And let's be honest. Let's just say you're having a snack of crackers and cheese. Well, just finding a simple way to bring some green into that experience, even if it's just a little bit of rosemary on the side or a little bit of pesto to dip and tip your cracker into whatever way you can pull some green onto your plate, do it. All right. The second reason that green is such a great color and really should become your favorite color is that it is known as a calming color. So we all love that song. You know, you need to calm down. My kids love singing that to me. I think Taylor's not necessarily referring to the kind of, you know, hurry that I'm in or the hustle I'm in, but calm is definitely a feeling that we all need to feel. I don't know about you, but I have an apple watch. I got it last spring at the beginning of COVID and coronavirus craziness, when I knew I needed to be watching my health. And the watch has this little breathe thing on it. Like, they want you to slow down, stop what you're doing, and just breathe for a minute. Well, it's so funny. I don't know if. If I'm like, I don't know if this is true, but that little reminder, like, the watch will send me a little beep, beep, and it'll tell me that I need to breathe. And, guys, it always happens at the most stressful moment. Like, two, two or three days ago, I had just dropped my daughter at soccer, grocery shopped for an hour, brought in all the groceries. I was having three of my kids help me unload the groceries, and I knew I had to head back out to go pick up my daughter from soccer after we unloaded. And it was, you know, it's just one of those moments where one of the kids didn't want to help. The other kid was embittered because that kid wasn't helping. And it was just cha. And my watch went beep, beep. I looked down, and of course it said, you need to breathe. Take a minute to breathe. Even just one minute will help. And I'm like, so does this turn on when my pulse goes up or something? I don't. I'M not sure. But I do know that in that situation, if I were in a more green, a green environment, then calm would have been an easier feeling to feel. At least that's what the science has proven. So when our eyes see green, it's proven that we literally kind of slow down our heart rate, Our pulse takes a little bit of a slower pulse, and our breathing actually relaxes, literally. Studies have shown, like, a physiological change in the human body when a person. Person's eyes see the color green. Isn't that amazing? I think that's one of the reasons why we love visiting gardens. I think it's one of the reasons why so many of us. There's such a huge movement right now toward the house plant phenomena of growing as many green things in our homes as possible. There's actually. It's not just something that happens in our head. It literally happens in our entire body, that when our eyes rest on something green, that our heart beat slows down, our breathing slows down, and our whole body, our muscles, everything relax a little bit. So I'm thinking probably this may be the next version of the apple watch, right? Instead of it saying, hey, Nicole, you need to breathe, maybe instead it'll say, hey, Nicole, you need to go look at a plant for a little bit. Actually, if my watch told me to do that, I might be more inspired to do it than just to stand there and breathe. Sometimes I'm like, hey, I don't have time to breathe. Okay. I got groceries to unload. So this brings us to our second challenge for the green challenge. And this is actually to take a moment each day and look at a green something for a minute. So I'm gonna take the apple watch idea of taking a minute to breathe, and instead of just sitting there, maybe with your eyes closed or. Or whatever you do when you're breathing intentionally to take that minute and actually sit and look at something green. So finding a plant that you're growing in your home, maybe step out into the garden. If your garden's green right now, whatever you can do to put your eyes on something green and making that a daily practice. So, of course, you could make this an hour by hour practice where, let's say you're working and you're at the computer or you're in class or. Or you're doing all the things right, that you maybe set a reminder for yourself that one minute out of every hour or when you take a break from your work, that you then turn and look at a plant for one minute, you can Even set a timer if it makes you uncomfortable. But just let your eyes rest on all the green and look at it and take it in. And obviously you'll be breathing, too. But I think this takes the breathing exercise a step further, at least based on what the scientists say. So you could, like, if you're going to be an A student, you could do this every hour on the hour. But if you want to just, like, slowly move yourself into this practice, you could literally just do this one time a day. So make it what you do when you're drinking your morning coffee or tea or kombucha or whatever you drink when you wake up, or make it a practice at lunchtime or before you go to bed, but just finding a little bit of time to slow down, take your eyes off your screen, shutting down everything else that's around you, and just zenning out with a plant and seeing if you don't slow down, take a deep breath, and feel more calm. All right, so that's the second thing about the color green. The third thing about the color green is that green actually makes everything else around the it look better. How cool is this? So scientists talk about the fact that we are trichromats. I think I'm saying that, right? So trichromats means that we see three main colors. And you might think that that's the primary colors, right? Like red, yellow, and what are those? Red, yellow, and blue. Take me back to kindergarten art there. But actually, it's green, red, and blue that are the three main colors that our eyes see. And green is actually right there in the middle of those colors. So red is on kind of the far left extreme, and blue is on the right, but green is right there in the middle. And so they've shown that green is actually the perfect background for all the other colors. It's this color that almost, in a sense, like the way we think about, say, white or black as being these kind of background colors that makes everything else stand out. Green is actually more that kind of color where when green is there, all of a sudden all the other colors show up, you know, more beautifully. I'm sure you've experienced this when you, let's say, see a field of tulips or, you know, buy some cut flowers or watch someone cutting flowers from a. Where it is the beauty of the bright colors of all the flowers, the reds and purples and yellows and oranges and whites, all those colors are so gorgeous. But it's their attachment to the green stem that really makes all of them Shine. I did this fun thing in the fall as I cut all my zinnias back, and I had grown zinnias of all different colors in 2020. It was such a fun part of my garden. And I cut them all back and then I actually cut all the stems off. So I had them all kind of stemmed up and then I cut all the stems to lay them out for a photo shoot. And it was interesting. It was like the minute I pulled off the stems, some of the magic disappeared. It was interesting. It was like they were still beautiful, but they weren't nearly as beautiful as they were when they were all attached to their lovely dark green stems. I don't know if you follow any flower farmers. I personally love Florette Flower. Erin Benzakine is amazing. I have been in her flower farming course now for two years and all of her shots, I mean, she is definitely Instagram famous. If you're not following her, you absolutely should be. But she's Instagram famous, and I think some of her fame grew from the beginning because of her always showing the cut flower. So it was these long stems and then these gorgeous, bright blooms. And it's just a perfect picture of how color shows off best when it's right next to green. I think this is part of the reason of the psychology behind, you know, all the furniture businesses and the home decor always having green in their spaces. Now, first of all, it also helps that their spaces are clean. I think one of the reasons I'm always drawn to those photos is I'm like, oh, they don't have. Have any, like, junk mail or extra books and pens and scrunchies and dog bones laying around like I do. But so it's the cleanliness, for sure, but also that they always style these spaces with green plants. So it's just. It's like a. Obviously they know in marketing that having that green right next to their tan couch or blue couch or beige couch or gray or red or whatever color it is that the green actually makes those colors shine better. Pretty neat. So now you know. So when you're looking through a magazine or checking out a new piece of furniture or something for your home, make sure it's the furniture that you love and not just the plant, because otherwise you could probably just, you know, buy the plant might be a little bit cheaper. So the challenge for this one is actually to set up your home, set up your space, and even considering your garden for the coming year, to always have green near you, to set your spaces up so that there are Green things all around you. I laughed. I don't know if you've seen these challenges, but when kids are in like a child care class in middle school, and I remember I had one of these where we had an egg that we had to alter, carry around with us. Like it was something that I guess was supposed to teach responsibility to irresponsible teenagers. But I've seen in childcare classes and things like this where, you know, students have to basically keep some inanimate object with them at all times and just the responsibility that comes with it of thinking about something beyond yourself. And all that happens when you are starting to think that way. So I thought it'd be so fun if we kind of took that on in the plant world and had at least one plant or one green thing that we always have with us. It could be a tiny little succulent or say an herb plant and just something green that you keep with you at all times and carry it around like it's like your little baby or your little puppy or something. I know it sounds kind of weird, but I think it'd be a fun experiment to see if when you do that, you don't feel better. If when you do that, you don't have more energy and see other things more clearly. I think I've probably told this story before on the podcast, but I can recall one of the first times that I really woke up to the wonder of the garden and my connection to it was when I was in grad school. I was really struggling with depression at that time. I was living alone. I was definitely trying to kind of find my way as a mid 20 year old something. And when I was, I wasn't dating, didn't necessarily have great friendships. I was just. I was kind of lonely and struggling. And on campus, I was in Dallas, and on campus they had a huge perennial rosemary bush and I brushed by it one or two times on my way to class. It was like probably February, March, maybe even April or May of that first year. And I ended up just snapping off some of the branches. Branches. Don't tell the campus. Okay. And I just started carrying them around with me. So I would just hold them. And I'm probably. I probably look like a real weirdo, but I loved the fragrance. And there was something so comforting about holding those branches and, or little stems and, and just walking around with them. So I'd stick it in like the side of my backpack and then as soon as that one would lose its fragrance, I'd get another one and the Bush never seemed to mind, so I just kept doing it. I think then I knew intuitively just the power of green and the power of scent and of the life that a plant gives us. And, yeah, actually, even as I'm talking, I'm like, why do I not have a sprig of rosemary with me right now? I don't even know what I'm doing here. So this is your challenge. This is another way to bring more green into your life is first, you could just go ahead and. And think of ways you can bring more green into each of your spaces, where you live, what your outdoor living looks like, and kind of making it a goal for 20, 21 to put more green around you, and then maybe you can even take it a step further and perhaps give yourself a couple of daily challenges that you carry something green with you as you go from place to place. So a little sprig of rosemary, perhaps. Perhaps. Or maybe some mint or a little succulent plant, maybe an aloe plant. I don't know. Microgreens. You get to choose. It's your life. But pick something green and. And see what it feels like to always have something green near you. I purchased a sun lamp for myself this year to help myself get through our dark winters here in Chicago. I love sunshine. I could lay in sunshine all day long. It's just like. Like. It's like food to me. And so these dark winters is my third one here in the Chicago area. And it's the first two, really. I'm not gonna lie. They kicked my booty pretty hard. It was, like, really hard to stay motivated and happy and keep my energy up. And so I've been working a lot of things into my daily practice to keep my energy and my. My spirits up this winter. And so one of those things was adding a sun. Sun lamp. And so I work underneath that sun lamp during the day when typically I would be under sun if we had. If the sun was actually shining here. The sun does come up. I think I am told the sun is up. It's just often covered with clouds, so you rarely can see it in the wintertime. So what I realized is, like, well, I've got a sun lamp right here. I'm just going to start putting plants underneath that sun lamp as well. So I'm there getting my light, light, and then I put some of my plants there too. And it was so interesting to note. I mean, I have the plants in my space, but it was really fun to see the difference in my energy and just my thoughts and focus when I didn't just have the light there, but I also had the plant too. So just a simple, easy way that you can pull some green near you whether you have a sun lamp or not. All right, so the fourth thing that. That's been shown about green, and I don't know what you think about this, but studies have actually shown that when you're around green more, you actually live longer. What do you think that's true? I don't know. So there was a study that compared women, okay, so it had, on one side, it have had women who lived in the most green areas of the world, and then it studied them against women who lived in the least green areas of the world. So this is pretty crazy, but the women who lived closer to green lived in more green areas. They actually had a 12% lower death rate than those that had a lot less green in their lives. Now, I'm sure that there were many other factors at play here, but I do think it's pretty interesting to. To see this, like, 12%. Like, that's crazy. Don't you think so? It's. I mean, we've already seen that basically, green helps you to feel more calm and relaxed, that green helps you to see other things more clearly, and that green is also something our eyes love to see, that we actually show more happiness and excitement when we see green and have more energy. So it would naturally follow that, that. That if you're surrounded by green for more of your life, that those three things would start adding up day after day after day to mean that you live longer, that you have a healthier body, a healthier mind, healthier emotions. Pretty crazy to think about, actually. Even as I'm reading this, I'm like, ooh, green areas. I'm definitely in a white area right now. So the fun thing to know is that no matter where we live, whether we're way up north and, you know, covered in snow right now, or in the south and covered with green or somewhere in the middle, that we can take little steps every day to surround ourselves with the color green more often. And that. That can truly affect our health. It can help us to have more energy, to feel happier. It can help us to calm down, to take deeper breaths, to slow our heart rate, and it can even help us to see other things more clearly. It's like it can make the rest of our world more beautiful by seeing green. I personally have experienced this so much in my life as I first started gardening over 10 years ago. Our family at that time, you Know, it was. It was wild and crazy for us. Like, I had four kids under four years old. My husband was PhD and postdocing finances were tight for us. We were moving a lot. There were just all these stresses in our lives. But it was during that season that I really dug in and started to plant, started to grow things. And what drew me to the plants especially was the fact that I could get started gardening, you know, right where I was, that I could take that rosemary sprig, for instance, and root it and turn it into a new plant plant that I could, you know, propagate things, that I could start things from seed. That gardening was so accessible to me even as I was moving and busy and honestly didn't have all the finances I wanted at the time. And that the more I grew, the more things I started to have growing around me, the more energetic I felt, the more beautiful I felt, felt, the more happier I felt. It was really out of those first moments of surrounding myself with green that spurred everything that I've created to date. The founding of Rooted Garden and Gardenary, and just all the things, they all started from just this overflow of joy and energy from my eyes seeing the color green. So I hope you will take this episode as a challenge to yourself to make 2021 the color of green. I don't know what the pantone color of the year is this year. I should have looked that up before I started. I think it's a yellow or something like that. I'll put it in the blog post, whatever it is. But several years ago, the color was greenery. That was the color they chose. And I actually got to be on a Houston Life is a show in Houston, Houston. And I modeled this beautiful green caftan for the the color of the year. It was hilarious. I contacted this wonderful lady, Natalie, and anyway, long story, I'll try to put the picture of me in this green caftan. But I loved the fact that they had chosen greenery as the color of the year, and they were just referencing, you know, the draw to life and growth and all those things with that color selection. But I realized that really can and should be the color of the year for all of us every year. Green is the color of life. It's the color of energy. Green is where all of life starts. I'm studying for my second book project, a lot about the growth of plants and how it happens and all the components and parts that have to happen in order for growth of a plant to occur. And it's been so fascinating to Dive into the fact that, you know, it all starts with the sunshine and the sun being turned into food in plants, and then that is where all life comes from. So it's literally sunshine energy that we see when we look at a green plant. A green green is the sign that a plant has literally gobbled up the sunshine and turned it into food. And so when we see the color green, we're not just seeing, you know, a hue or, you know, a prism or just some, I don't know, bending of light. We're literally seeing the magic of energy from the sun turned into food that feeds those plants, that helps us to breathe, and that will eventually feed us and give us energy. I think that's why greens should be all of our favorite colors. I think that we can have other colors, too, that we love, but I think that the world will be a much better place if all of us start to bring more green into our everyday lives and share that with other people. So this is your challenge for. For this week and for this year, number one, to put something green on your plate for all three meals a day, whether it's drinking a green drink, having a green smoothie, putting some herbs and chives around your dishes, or just digging into a fresh garden salad and using that green on your plate to spur you on to grow some new things. This year, your second challenge is to look at something green for one minute, minute every day at minimum. So taking time to just turn your eyes to something green, especially if it's a green plant, and just focusing in on it. So when your watch tells you, hey, you need to take a breath, go find a plant and. And just take your breath right alongside that plant. The plant will give you oxygen, too, which is pretty cool. All right. And then the third thing to do is to carry something green with you or to set up green stations all around your living and workspace. So just taking a little bit of time with your designing and decor for 2021, to set up green in all your spaces so that as you're working or working out or, you know, homeschooling your kids or whatever you're doing, that your eye gets to turn and see the color green, which will help you feel calmer and also make everything else around you will look more beautiful. All right, friends, that is it for today's episode. I hope that you feel inspired to make 2021 the color of green. The wait make 2021 the year of green for you and that you start maybe to consider that you might want to switch your favorite color to green, just like I did. Thank you so much for listening to the Grow youw Self Podcast. We'll be back with another episode next week. 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