87. Daymond John: Shark Tank Star Reveals His Ultimate Health Transformation

My goal initially was I wanted to get down to fit into my Shark Tank season one outfit. And I failed at those goals for three years. When I started changing my goal from getting into that suit to seeing myself alive and healthy and walking my three little girls down the aisle, the alcohol was done. I didn't need it. I spent millions more because of that lifestyle. And I could have put that on this lifestyle.

Dude, you flicked that switch though. I will give it to you. You were all, all in and all out. Sugars are normalized, you're no longer insulin resistant or pre diabetic, you're no longer hypertriglyceridemia. Your blood pressure is normalized, the immune system is strengthened. And what we did was.

I gotta tell you something, because I'm in so many businesses, you being a successful entrepreneur today does not mean you'll be a successful entrepreneur tomorrow. And you being healthy today does not mean tomorrow.

Talk a little bit about your strategy for managing so many dispar tight business.

Time is something you can never get back. The more successful people get, the more nos, the more times they say no, because you have to.

Ultimate Human. Hey guys, welcome back to the Ultimate Human podcast where we go down the road, everything anti aging, longevity, biohacking and everything in between. Today I have an incredible guest, one that you guys all know and probably love. He's an entrepreneur, he's an awesome author, an investor, he's a well known TV personality, Probably wants to be most well known for being a father of three children. You know him from his iconic brands. He started the brand FUBU in 1992 where most of you guys were still in the womb. He's won numerous awards including the Brand Week Marketer of the year, the NAACP Entrepreneurs of the year award, which I think he won twice, the Advertising Age marketing award, Crane's new business, this 40 under 40, all of these awards. I just want to give you the proper introduction. It's actually my wife, Sage Workinger. Thank you.

There we go.

Thank you very much.

Welcome to the podcast. My good friend, Damon John.

Thank you. Thanks Sa.

Thank you for coming on.

We've had quite a journey over the last two years.

We have been a little bit amazing, amazing journey. I've been watching your journey, how you know the world has discovered you and then you, you help me discover myself.

So yeah, I mean, you know, I want to talk about the health journey. I also want to talk about, I actually want to talk about your influence of, of children and finances as well. Because you and I spoke. I mean I've watched You on Shark Tank for years. I mean, obviously you're brilliant. I think you have an amazing communication style and you distill like I do in the human body, complicated information about business down to bite sized pieces that the audience can engage in and understand. I think it's a very special skill. But something I didn't know about you that I was really struck by a few months ago we both spoke at Lauren Rettinger's conference. It was marketamericashop.com and I see a lot of speakers, I listen to a lot of topics, I'm in a lot of events. But I took notes from that talk really, and I was super captivated by it. And the story that I would love for you to share is you talked about how you're teaching your youngest, your daughter about finances and the bank account and the checking and the things they're not teaching in school.

Yeah.

And so tell me a little bit about that like what are you doing with your kids to create financial literacy?

You know. Well, I teach other importance of money, but you know, also it's the psychology around money and what do you, what are you purchasing and why are you purchasing. But to know how it works as a structure. Right. And the best way to say this is that, you know, we're not taught about money in school and actually it's a taboo, you know, and you have this theory that once you get it, you can keep it. Once you get it, it'll solve your problems and it's very hard to get it. And those who have it are assholes. So true.

You know, take great offense to that.

Well, a lot of it. But you know, but the simplest way to say this is, it is, it is a learned behavior. It is something that must start young.

Right.

Because you don't, you don't teach a child how to play sports at 19 and put them right on the field or her, you know, with anybody. You don't teach them how to play an instrument and put them right in an orchestra, you know. Right. 20. And you teach them at 20.

But that's kind of what life does to them.

Right, Right. And, and so, you know, if you learn and understand and the best way to explain how you operate $3, whether $3 comes into the house. 303 billion. Right. The first doll always goes for one, what you have to pay for to live. The second is supposedly an investment, whatever that investment is. Right. In, in your health or in a public market or whatever the case is. And the third is what you would like to have. But don't have to have. Right. And if you don't spend all of number three, it goes into number two. And what happens is over the years, number two compounds and it flows into one and three. But we as hard working Americans who are marketed by predatory, you know, payday loans, slash accounts such of that nature, or we watch and everything is no money down. Of course.

Right.

And there's really not no money down. And not knowing that one or two points, it will change your entire life from your mortgage to anything else. Well, what do we do? We work hard, we usually buy and go and do number three first. We never get to number two. And then we pay 18 or 24% on credit cards for number one. It corrodes the whole system. Now if you don't learn financial intelligence in school, the bottom line is today's kid who graduates from college, 50% of them will retire with a job title that doesn't exist today.

Right.

That's like telling somebody you were going to be a drone operator or a pay per click expert. 20 years ago they say, what the fuck is that?

Right, Right.

So now no financial intelligence. At 16 years old, you or 17 years old, you will be applying for $700,000 worth of student debt for a career that you're not sure you want to have, that you won't pay off until your 50s. Let's get back to what Gary does, because what happens then is if you don't have money, well, the cheapest things to consume in this country are made out of butter, sugar and salt.

Amen.

Right.

Oh my gosh.

Well what happens then? Now you're on this other curve of trying to solve a problem that exists. High blood pressure and various other things like that. Domestic violence rises. You turn children from, you know, the cribs to corrections instead of cribs to college. Because what happens when they don't have an education or they need money, they go and pick up a gun or an instrument. Right? Global warming too. If you don't have enough education, the number one way to stop global warming is educate women by the age of 12, 13, 14. If you educate a woman, a girl by the age 12, 13, 14, she starts to think about things that she wants to do for her and her career in life. Instead of having two, three, four, five children, that increases the population. It all comes down to money.

And how old is your daughter now?

I have three daughters, 130, 125 and 170.

And, and, and the 7 year old, she's enrolled in this program. Right.

She's enrolled in this program. She's starting to learn. Because what I explained to her was that money is freedom and that three, you know that number three. So we, we basically break down her money at the end of the year.

So what happens is she gets an allowance or something?

Well, no, after all, what she collects end of the year gifts, whatever. Tooth fairy. I mean the tooth fairy.

Tooth fairy, pain.

Nowadays the tooth fairy, it's 25 cents.

When I lost my last tooth. Inflation's gotta have that.

Biden's gotta have that for all my teeth and my tonsils.

Our tooth fairy was creative and did $2 bills.

Wow.

Yeah. Cuz those were rare.

Those have actually appreciated.

Well, my daughter had $300 the end of this nice year.

Okay.

So we said, we brought down $300. Give me 100. That's for your rent, for food. She was like, what? In her mind, she's like, who gives a. Whatever it is. Okay. Number two is an investment, right? So at first when a shell company. This time she bought beads, Right? And then number three, you can spend that on what? This is freedom. What is freedom, daddy? You can spend on whatever you want. Giving it to people that don't have anything. Freedom could be that you can pay and pay for art materials or you know what, baby freedom is. You get paid for whatever you would do for free or whatever you would buy. You can sell. You can spend time home. She says, I want a pet. What do you want? A giraffe. Okay, a giraffe. Can't fit it in the house.

I don't think you can get a decent giraffe for 100 bucks.

Not really. Not really.

Yeah. I don't know what the going rate.

Is that we got her down to a betta fish. We went to the source, she picked up a beta fish, figured out somehow we knew that was where we were going to go. We got the beta fish home and she didn't realize. I said, baby, that's freedom. She said, what do you mean? I said, you didn't have to wait for your birthday. You don't have to wait for Christmas. You picked the fish. I didn't have to bring it home. It's your fish. And then she realized what happened. Wow.

And now there's a whole nother new set of responsibilities you can teach her about.

Just to take care of the fish. But now all of a sudden, she started making these because now she wants to, you know, make money.

I like it.

I did this really big thing, you know, I had a lot of great celebrities at it called Black Entrepreneurs Day. Iced tea, cocoa, all our friends, right? She's now making these bees. And instead I said, don't try to sell it to anybody, because your daddy's little girl, they'll probably feel pressure. She said. I said, just ask them what they think it's worth. She made these custom beads behind the scenes. She made $400.

No way.

I'm a buyer. I want one. I'll take one for Christmas. Yeah.

And then she said, I want to get one. I have Flavor Flav there. I said, he's a legend. She said, I want to give Flavor Flav. You know what? She gave it to him.

Did she have a clock bead?

Huh? No, but she gave it to him. And then she said to him, $20. I said, I said, you didn't think you would give it to him?

You were like, that's daddy's little girl.

That's daddy's little girl. You know, my first one was little Damon learns to earn. The next one gonna be little Minka needs to pa. She's just getting a little aggressive.

You're gonna create a little monster there.

I'd rather pull her back a little bit.

Yeah, I love it.

Good for her for going out and asking what she wants.

Yes.

She deserves that. I'm sure you love that too.

So, you know, I, I, I said I wanted to talk about our health journey, and I hope you're okay with that. I watch the numbers. We cut it out of the podcast.

No, let's get to the numbers, baby.

Yeah, we got the numbers right here. Because, you know, and the reason why I like to talk about the health journey that, that, that we've had with, with so many of our podcast guests is because I really think by educating the audience and inspiring them to make change, you know, you can. This is when real transformation happens. You know, just like your financial story with your daughter, it became very real to her, and now the impetus is coming from her. Right? I mean, and you just put the guardrails there. Now she's a little entrepreneur. Look out, man. My money's on her. If I could buy her stock now, I could buy. I could buy the next John at the. But, you know, I've had so many guests on the podcast, and these are, you know, celebrities, entertainers, you know, wealthy entrepreneurs like yourself. And the message that I really want to convey is not that it is expensive to make these changes, not that you need all kinds of fancy equipment to make these changes. It's that you have to be inspired to make a transformation in your life. And you need data. And so when we first met, it was a little over two years ago. We, we got some data. And I remember you sat down, you said, you know, I want to lose some weight. I've got a little brain fog. I want to get, I want to, I want to get my blood checked out. And you were not in particularly bad shape. You were not a mess. I mean, you were top of your career. You're still killing it on Shark Tank. You're traveling, you're, you're an entrepreneur, you're speaking. But when we started to take a look in your blood work, you had something called metabolic syndrome. And I talk about this a lot because it is a silent killer that begins now at an earlier and earlier age. And it's a combination of any one of the five of, or any two of the five of, high insulin, hyperinsulinemia, high blood pressure, a little bit of abdominal obesity, high triglycerides, low HDL cholesterol, and high blood sugars. At that time, you had five of the five.

Nice.

Yeah.

Well, hey, if you're gonna do wrong, do wrong right?

It's a very common thing. I mean, this is not abnormal anymore, unfortunately. But I think this podcast is very much about bringing awareness to it because not a lot of people realize that.

That'S going on, you know, and bringing it in a simplistic way where we all just get it.

Yes, exactly. And then finding those solutions through. What we are trying to do is find solutions through very natural means, not expensive. People, see, are going to see you on the podcast and go, oh, well, he's got money.

Yep, he's got money. You know, he bought $150,000 light. Bet I can't afford that, so I'm not even going to think about it.

I'm going to try, but it really was a mindset set change.

It is all a mindset.

You know, you flick that switch, though, I will give it to you. You, you were all in and all out. I mean, the lights went on. I mean, I will give it to.

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Talk a little bit about that journey because then I want to summarize where you are now. For the record, you have none of the five sugars are normalized. Right. In fact, your blood sugar is even a little on the low side. Hemoglobin A1C from 5.9 down to 5.2.

Perfect.

You're no longer insulin resistant or pre diabetic. You have normal insulin, normal levels of blood sugar. You're no longer hypertriglyceridemia, meaning you don't have elevated high, high triglycerides, high amounts of blood fat. Your blood pressure is normalized, immune system strengthened. Your thyroid is literally perfect. Your thyroid labs and I.

Cancer. Remember I, I had cancer.

Yeah, yeah.

Oh, I did not know that.

And, and what we did was as little intervention as possible, but the majority of it came from diet and lifestyle changes. And I don't want people to think, well, we made them a raw food vegan overnight. No, we cut out the high glycemic sugars and mainly the non organic whites. White flour, white rice, white bread, white pasta, white potatoes. We got all of that out of the diet and we were very judicious about carbohydrates. And so tell me a little about how much weight came off. How are you feeling?

Yeah, you know, amazing. I dropped and I gotta say, the main, the main thing you said, I dropped alcohol. I dropped about, I dropped, I think I dropped 40. I dropped about 45 pounds. I'm down about 30 now. No, about 35. But I made small adjustments. Really small. And I think the, the first thing to tell people is like you just said, you can't afford a cold plunge tub. You can get these cold plunge things on Amazon for a hundred dollars. You know, you just put like a cold ass shower. Yeah, you'll figure it out, right? You know, you can't get that equipment. I was on the road. What I started doing, well, I started feeling lighter, right. I started having more energy. So I started increasing my amount of push ups and I just increased my amount of steps. Right. But I think it's the same as entrepreneurship, right? You look at building this company so I, I can never build this big company. You just got to take one step and when the one step you start to see it happening. And I started not eat late. I just changed my diet.

I remember that.

And instead of the bread, I just didn't do the bread. I stopped yearning for it. Now is it, is It a. Is it a fix? Always? No, I. I still crave sugar because when I stop the alcohol, I crave sugar. I don't know. I don't know why. Yeah, we talked a little bit, and.

You started, I mean, partially because of the dopamine reward, right? I mean, a lot of our sugar receptors are directly related to dopamine rewards in the brain. In fact, if you look at the chemical nature, the chemical composition of a lot of artificial sweeteners, only a very small portion of that sweetener is actually designed to ding the sweet receptor. The majority of it is meant to ding the dopamine response. This is why most people don't like sugar. They are addicted to sugar.

Yeah.

And our brain is nasty, man. What the brain wants, the brain gets. Like the little Kim Jong Un of dictators. It sits up there, it takes everything for itself, right? I mean, if it wants calcium, it'll leach it from the bones. If it wants amino acids, it'll strip it from lean muscle. And if it wants sugar, it'll activate a special receptor on the back of the tongue. I think it's called the RF1A2 receptor. And boom. Give you a dopamine.

But you know what happens also, I think that we don't talk about it. The psychology of it, whether it's psychology or money, psychology or relationships, you start having different conversation with different people. You even have different conversations with the same people, but you didn't know they were into that same stuff because they just didn't want to be judgmental. And they start saying, oh, you know what I found out? Oh, you know what I found? Oh, you know what I found? And you start finding new ways to find happiness and satisfaction. What you're doing, you know, what's the old saying? Nothing tastes as good as skinny feels.

Yeah, Dana White said that.

Was it Dana. Yeah, Dana White said that. Yeah.

And I'm telling you, you start feeling lighter, you start feeling better about your relationship, you look better in your clothes, but the goal needs to be very clear. And I'm going to tell you the goal, right? Because my goal init was I wanted to get down to fit into my Shark Tank season one outfit. And I do these goal setting. And I failed at those goals for three years. But when, because I would see myself in that outfit. But naturally what happens, you get into that red dress that you got into in college or when you met that. That man of yours or whoever in your life, and then you know what? You go back to whatever you, oh, I hit it when I started Changing my goal from getting into that suit to seeing myself alive and healthy and walking my three little girls down the AIs, the alcohol was done. I didn't need it. I never touched. Because every time I looked at that glass, that glass looked like death.

Yes.

And once you quit, it really is amazing how it's done. I don't crave it as much anymore. I crave hot tea at night now.

And other people will say, whatever is your thing is your thing. I tried the every Tuesday, every Monday, one drink this, one drink that. But as entrepreneurs, you know, what happens is because we're on the road so much, you don't get a release. And because we're a type personalities, this is the release. If you can't do push ups, run, you're in plane, trains, automobile. But when I started to replace that with the thought of feeling healthier, being around, my sex life improved. With my wife, you know, a lot of good things happening.

That's awesome.

And then I look at the downside of it, right? What was the downside of. Well, you can break this down way better than I can. Every cow, every time I drank, my calories would empty calories. My metabolism slowed down. I want something nice and greasy to fill my stomach. I wake up in the morning groggy. I'm not as efficient. Why am I gonna go to the gym? Wait a minute, I'm in a hotel. Did a goddamn dog get into the. Did a dog get into the mini bar? Why?

Where did all that Jack Daniels go?

Waking up with orange shit on my fingers.

Right. You know, somebody put a Cheeto in my hand when I was asleep.

How dare they. And when you do that and you break it down, you look at how much more of your life you regain. You and I were even talking. I happen to. It just doesn't work for me, the, what is it called? The fasting intermittent period of time. But I never thought of how much time is taken up of thinking about food.

Yes.

What time? When I get there, what are we eating? What are we going to eat?

And so many meetings and events and things always center around food and alcohol. And alcohol.

Yeah.

I mean, speak for a drink, follow the money guy. Let me tell you something. It's unfortunate. I have one person in the hospice now. She's in her late 50s, early 60s. She drank herself to death. Because alcohol is something that is celebrated. I'm gonna tell you the follow money. If alcohol wasn't around, think about how many bars or places to eat or amusement parks or whatever. Or ball. Think about how boring that would be. Alcohol's never going away. And it's actually, some people go, what's wrong with you?

I know.

Yes. It's crazy.

It is a drug that is pushed obviously for, and there's a lot of money around it. So you shouldn't feel bad for having to tell somebody why you don't want to drink.

Right.

But it's almost, it's become a thing where if I don't take the offer of a cocktail, people want to know why. And then there's this whole weird awkward thing where now they've already got a cocktail in their hand and then you're like, well, I just kind of want water. And they're like, water?

Yeah. Whether it's on a commercial, whether it's on buy, it's everywhere. What are you going to get for holidays? You're going to get bottles, right? Yeah, you're going to see it in the store. And by the way, those ads look pretty sexy.

Yeah, they look like they're having fun.

I don't see people like this on the ads. Oh my God, get another drink. They're usually the second sexiest people in the world.

Yes.

And nobody talks about so true. How your personality can change now.

Oh my God.

Funny enough, I, I think I actually do get funnier when I'm having a cocktail. My, my mother tells me that I'm funnier when I have a cocktail. But some people get angry, some people get nasty.

Even your funniness is sometimes embarrassing, you know, if you're around how many times it went with the people who have drink. If you think about how many times you wake up and go, oh God, what did I say?

How many apology letters do I need to be writing out today?

Yeah. And you know, I am taking about 25, 30,000 people through a three day water fast in about a week and a half. And the last time that I did this, I asked them people after they completed a three day water fast. I said, what was the thing that stood out to you the most about the water fast? Just an open ended question like that. And the majority of people had the same answer. They said the number of times I thought about food or went to get something to eat when I wasn't hungry. It's so habitual.

Habitual.

Like I found myself getting up from my office and walking into the kitchen to get something to eat and I, because I was on the water fast, I stopped myself. But I realized I wasn't actually hungry. And had this been any other day, I would have just found Some cookies, pastries, pies, brownies, cookies, crackers. I would have taken a little dip of chicken salad on a potato chip and eaten it and gone back to my desk. And I realized that I got up from my desk four or five or six times during the day and it just dawned on me how much of my time was committed to just eating the next bite of food.

And how many times have you said, oh, it's dinner time, we need to eat? Oh, I haven't had dinner. It's nine o' clock at night, it's.

Okay to go to bed, right?

Well, you're gonna go to bed with a T bone steak on you.

It's so, it's so true.

Being in Miami, the norm is starting dinner at like 10, 11 o' clock at night because you're.

Yeah.

Going out till 3, 4 in the morning.

It really is. Right. So it's. A lot of times it's psychology. And I think going back to what you're saying, when I was ready to lose the weight, or it would not even lose the weight, I wanted to just be aware of what was going on in my life and I saw what was of more value, you know, if I'm gonna, you know, how many more, how many more am I ever gonna really taste the ultimate greasy cheeseburger?

Right.

You know, or am I gonna be able to not feel hungover or not feel just sluggish or be able to pick up my little girl? You know, I'm, I'm a 55 and now I'm 55. When I had it, we were, when, when we had our daughter, I was 47. You know, you gotta have a lot of energy for these little ones.

Oh, yeah, right. Especially this little entrepreneur you created.

Yeah. But these are the ones that keep you young.

Yeah, yeah.

And don't you, you just feel great. So anyway, bottom line, I took a small steps. That, And I gotta tell you, I think that the years before that, I've gone through my, my, I've had healthier times in my life. This is not. I wasn't always this way. Actually. I wanted to. I wonder when I was in my early 20s, trained. Trained to be in fitness competitions. Actually, life took over with a lot of great success. Right. But it was always the people like, oh, we're gonna start you off with this. I mean, they were, it was so crazy, the things they would say to me to get me there. It just wasn't relatable.

Right.

And then I would, I would just go blank on them.

I think that is one of the people feel intimidated. Like, they have to. We're gonna put them on a program that's unattainable, that they're. They're gonna be starving because we're gonna not allow them to eat, or they're gonna have to go on some super strict diet, or we're gonna make them go to the gym for three hours a day. And that's really not what it's about. It is incredible that when you talk to people about their diet, especially that a lot of times this is just what they've grown up with. It's, where did you grow up? It's a bitch if you grew up in the Midwest. I have a cousin whose wife is a nutritionist, and she's like, I didn't know that people ate broccoli unless it was covered in butter and cheese. She's like, that's just. Broccoli was in a casserole and that was the only way it was served. So if you can change the mindset of people, eat more salads and grilled chicken and watch out for seed oils and don't eat fried food. And they go, oh, don't go to McDonald's or fast food restaurants. And even just those little habits can help them little. Like you said, step by step.

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We are the most connected time in history. And I got to tell you, I run a lot of businesses. This is probably the dumbest time in history. Yeah, because people have the information and they hit number one, which Is really great because a lot of marketers market number one. The information is right there. You know, listen, when I was growing, I couldn't necessarily. I didn't know necessarily all the healthy things, but we had a healthier way of living anyway. There was, I don't know, one Wendy's, you know, I even knew of.

Wow.

I think at that time, I think there was maybe 200 Wendy's. Now there's.

Your parents did a lot of cooking at home all the time. Right.

And we didn't have any money.

Yeah.

You know, they had pizza parties in school once a month. Maybe kids eat pizza now every day. Right. But if you do talk to nutritionist, as we. As we know, this nutritionist will say the habits start, you know, at home. And they say that if you cook with your children 5, 6, 7, 8 years old, they want to cook with mommy and daddy. Now you have three days of healthy leftovers. Right. They create it.

Yeah.

I've been homeschooling our daughter. And one of the main things, I'm like, yeah, we're having cooking class and that helps us out because we're very busy and we're constantly.

She's actually a great little cook.

She is phenomenal. I am like.

So, by the way, that's a whole nother story. Because, you know, the. The young men and women that I know dating today, they say the women actually don't know how to cook as a whole, and the men don't know how to cook. So both of them looking at each other in the apartment going, well, there's.

Uber Eats right to the front door.

And I think a lot of people think that fast food is cheap. It's not cheap anymore.

It's very expensive.

It's actually very expensive. And that's what I've started to learn is that even going. When you think you're getting a healthy meal somewhere, that's fast food.

I gotta tell you something, because I'm in so many businesses in the vitamin. And we all know this in the vitamin supplement, I'm not going to name any name, but in that business, most of most. A lot of them are. Are obese. Yeah.

Oh, wow.

The fast food business, they're super healthy. Most of the executives.

Wow, Interesting.

Why do you think that is?

Because they know better.

Because they know what they know what's in that show.

I. I have not taken ALINA To. To McDonald's ever in her entire life. I think because when I was pregnant, I had a craving for a burger and it made me so violently ill. That I, it just mindset was like, I'm never going again. I took her for her first burger, which I did not tell him because we were all secretive about it. We were on a road trip, there was nothing else. You got some spleen in there in Missouri. She had a Big Mac and fries and she was so sick the whole day she's like, I will never do it again.

I think anything else though, you know, I mean there's people that could smoke a pack of cigarettes. You know, I think if I took a drag off a stuff cigarette, I'd be thrown up in the bushes. Your body gets used to that poison. And one of the things we try to tell people to do is make very small consistent changes. And what happens is your taste profile changes. Because food today is chemically engineered. I mean processed food is not engineered for nutrition. It's engineered for taste. To ding the dopamine receptors to also create cravings, to create sugar crashes which cause more eating. I mean it's actually chemically engineered for this. And what happens is people go from a high craving like a taste profile for processed foods and they start to eat real foods, grass fed meats, whole eggs, chicken, avocados.

Yeah, you taste the difference and you.

Taste the difference, but that food doesn't taste real to them initially. And then as we keep them on that plan for eight or 10 weeks, they can't go back to processed foods. They take something out of a wr and bite into it. You can taste the chemicals. Yeah, so. So now that you've had this, you know, resurgence in, you know, health and energy, you're down 35 pounds. Where you're down 45 now, you're down 35 pounds. What kind of touch points has that changed in your life? And what's, what's kind of inspiring, Damon John right now?

Well, I mean what touch points has changed in my life is. Well, first of all, also a lot of other things went away. I would get gout out once in a while.

I remember that right.

I would.

Haven't had it in two years.

Yeah, I would have certain aches. I just didn't know where they were coming from. And I have the best doctors in the world and they'll try to give me pills. I mean my, I'm still trying to, trying to get off of the previsit. Listen, and I want people all know that this is a cut. Whether it is, whether it is your relationship, whether it is your health, whether it is finance. This is a you never arrive life. It is always a new form of learning. And you will not be like, well, I'm here now and I'm good. Right, Right. So. So. But, you know, I. You know what drives me from a. Are you asking me from a health perspective? Yeah.

Well, I mean, now that you've had this out, like, what are some of the changes that have occurred in your life because you're so much more conscious?

My relationship with my wife is much, much better. Not only because of the lack of drinking, but my wife has always been into fitness, and now we have more commonality. Holiday.

Yes. You know, it's funny, but when I first saw your. When we were looking at your hormone profile, I saw your free testosterone was very low, and I said, you know, when this comes back, Heather's gonna need a safe word. She started laughing.

Oh, yeah.

Because libido's coming back like the freight train. She's like, hey, can you tone him down a little bit?

I'm clearly the guy around the house with the trench coat and lollipop. Yeah. You know, but, you know, there's nothing sexier in the life, in your life, no matter what goal it is, than setting a goal with your wife or with your husband. So good, right? A common goal. And a common goal. At the end of the day, you know, what it is to be around as much as we can for our little girl, to celebrate the moments of life that we can take away. Also, if you notice, it really started with Cuban, who, by the way, everybody thinks he's quitting the show. He's not quitting his show now. He's leaving the show after 16 season. He'll still be on the show for another two years. Years. Oh, and we'll probably be a guest shark down the road as well. But he is doing it for the full to pass the torch on to a lot of people. But he's still there two years. People think it's right now.

Right, right.

Started with Cuban. And now if you really look, Robert always ran a lot. Kevin is down as well and dramatically in weight. And my friends are all down, and they're like, man, if you can do it, when you do it. Exactly, we can do it. Right.

You know, I want to also to talk about a few specifics, because a lot of times people are like, okay, great, he had all these changes. What did he do? And on your side. So we looked into the blood. First thing that I tell people to do is you got to get data. It is amazing. Sometimes when you talk to a really passionate entrepreneur, sometimes I'll bring them on stage and I'll say. Hey, how much money did your company earn last month? $662,440. Wow. Okay. What was your net income? $142,400. Wow. How many employees do you have? 16. What's your revenue per employee? 52,000. What's your hemoglobin A1C? Where's your insulin? Do you know what your testosterone level is? Blank. Right. We know more about our businesses and our balance sheet and our income statement, our P and L, than we know about our own bodies. And if people got some data, they could gamify this. So, like when we looked at your sugars, you know, glucose is a measure of how much sugar is in your blood. Something called hemoglobin. A1C is the three month average of your blood sugar. This is how they determine whether or not you're normal blood sugar, pre diabetic or potentially even diabetic. So that was in the pre diabetic range. The insulin was very high. When insulin is high, it makes it very difficult to burn fat. If you can't burn fat, fat builds up in the blood in the form of triglycerides. So we used a root called, called berberine. Very safe route. We added this to your supplement protocol and took it with each meal. And the sugars came down like they've fallen off a cliff. And I've even seen some evidence in the literature that berberine outperformed metformin, which is the major type 2 diabetes drug in terms of lowering hemoglobin A1C and insulin. So we made that choice. You started to watch the whites and then you started doing activity. I remember you would call me and tell me you're doing what, push ups and air squats and stuff in your hotel room.

Yeah. What was happening was what I did also is I said, you know, we're out of COVID Why do I need to do all my things on a zoom on a camera? I'm not doing any more zoom. From 9 to 12. And I would walk casually from. When I drop off my daughter. I would walk from 9 to 12 on the phone. I would walk 8 miles.

There you go.

And then all of a sudden, now I've. I've earned my meal. Nice. All right. Then I made the meal. All of a sudden, you know, I had my rotated cuffs where both were, were torn over the course of last couple of years. But I have no idea as to dropping it. I was able to increase the push ups. Now they're totally, totally fine. Yeah, I started doing Stuff like the EBU machine to dialysis. My, you know, my blood having normal.

IBU by the way, is ozone. 10 pass ozone. It's ozone gas. For those of you guys that don't know what EBU is, it's a phenomenal, phenomenal treatment. It's antiviral, it's anti free radical. You put ozone gas, O3 gas into the blood and that, that third oxygen molecule is like a missile. The free radicals and inflammation. There's lots of clinics around the country that do IBU and ozone.

I started using them, the, the oxygen mask, laying on my pimp, you know, PMF mat, my red panels with you really small channel. While I'm on my red panels, I'm reading. Yeah. And I'm listening to music, you know, when I'm laying on the mat, when I'm on the oxygen because I mean it may be night or whatever cases I'm walking on the treadmill.

Right, right.

It's just, it was this, it was very simple adjustments.

Right.

And of course, you know, listen, and I still eat McDonald's once in a three weeks maybe, you know, I don't go totally cold turkey.

We call it the 8020 rule.

But it also, you know, I don't crave as much junk food. The only issue I have somewhat is sugar and I, and I, and I'm, and I'm fighting it too, you know.

Yeah, no, it's good to know that you still struggle, but you're still on this, on this journey.

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So for those of you that are listening, if you're like, well, he has a, you know, he bought a PEMF mat. Yes. It means five grand for PEMF mat. You want to do it for free? Take your shoes off and contact the surface of the earth. Allow your body to discharge into the earth. Earthing and grounding is very real and God gives it to us every day. We just don't access it. If you have the money and you want the convenience, we'll spend five grand on a PEMF mat. It'll help alkalize the cells in your body. If you don't want to spring five grand for a hypermax oxygen system, you don't need the Hypermax oxygen system. You can learn to do breath work. You can get outside, expose your skin to sunlight and do a round of breath work. Take your feet, touch the surface of.

The earth, free breath.

I've been, I've been doing yoga as well because, you know, stretching and, and listen again. Yeah, I have the access and the resources, but you know, you don't what money you need for push ups and air squats.

Right. And like you said, you have all the access to all these.

And that's the important part. I've had this access all my, not all my life, but a long, long time. I didn't do it because you know what? Yeah, because it just wasn't something I, I cared about.

But I think we also were able to kind of gamify things.

Things.

Like when we showed you the labs. Yeah, I remember you were like, it was like a wake up call. And you know, like a lot of clients, you know, that we work with, you just flicked that switch, man. He went from, you know, a man unpossessed to a man possessed. He was like, I'm on this journey, I've made this commitment, I'm going to set some absolutes. And I think the reward is what I wanted is what I want people to hear. Because there's a lot of people who are where you were. They're there now and they're going, well, what do I have to do to get out of this and feel the way that he does?

You know, also I think that, you know, even if somebody had, they were in different time of their life 10, 20 years ago and they started down this journey. Science has advanced so much in that period of time that when I go to a pernuvo machine that has, you know, zero radiation and I saw that I had a, and a good friend of ours had an aneurysm that came up from their leg. As we all know the. And I saw that I had a baker cyst aneurysm lump right in here. And I was heading to Europe and I was like, I don't. I'm not gonna know any hospitals in there. But I was able to go down and have that thing checked and know that it was nothing. The. The mental peace of mind that I have. And so 20 years ago, when even if I had some of this information, I may not have felt that I would have had had enough surrounding people to talk to. The information is there now.

You can really.

There. It's.

There's so much you can look up for free. You don't have to necessarily go to an expert.

No, you don't.

So much right up there.

Yeah.

You just know how to access it. And also I like that what you're saying about community. Like not just with Heather, but also your friends, my friends you work with. And then everybody's on this, you know.

Yeah. When we go out to drink, well, I mean we got to have dinner. Four people drinking, four people not. Yeah, nobody cares. And we're having a great time.

Exactly.

And you're not evil eyeing them and they're not evil eyeing you. It just is what it is. And that's why I go back to this 80, 20 rule. I mean, you don't have to, you know, like sometimes, you know, amount of our niece has a birthday and they pass around a slice of cake. I have a slice of cake. I mean, and they're like, you eat cake.

Oh my God, you eat cake.

Not very often, but I'm not going to be that guy that, you know, if you pass around, that's. My five year old niece is having a birthday party. I'm gonna have a couple bites of cake.

It is a funny concept that people get nervous around eating or drinking. Around us now we're like, please don't.

Yeah, yeah.

We're like the stick in the mud, you know, judging.

Listen, believe it or not, I still go to Golden Corral once in a while. I don't. I just.

I don't think I've ever been to a Golden Corral.

I happen to just take dad's chicken. I take the skin off the chicken and when they're sitting there carving a real turkey that out, obviously it may have had some stuff in it from when it was. But that's the kind of turkey we get. Another place they're carving a turkey. I'm not eating the fried popcorn shrimp. Am I grabbing me a nice cupcake when I leave? Yeah, I'm in a hurry.

Cut that out of the podcast. Please edit.

But, you know, but that's what it is. Kevin went from drinking three bottles of wine to one bottle of wine a night. I didn't know how he was drinking three bottles of wine. He dropped £25. So you do it within your own way and maybe I'm sure he'll get to. No, but that's up to him. Exactly. You know, you just do it in your own way. But having the information, I think is key, because when I saw that information, it was very clear. You have the right to make up your own opinions, but not the right to make up your own facts.

Yeah.

Your blood does not lie, dude.

And now. And the facts look really good now.

Yeah.

Yeah. Zero metabolic syndrome. Blood sugar is normal. Blood pressure is normal. Your. Your triglycerides, the level of blood fat is. Is in a beautiful range. They're 65. For people that know what triglyceride levels are, they shouldn't be above about 149. They're now half of the range. Immune system is strengthened. I mean, thyroid looks excellent. I mean, and the real story here is everybody sees what's going on on the outside, but it's really what's going on on the inside that matters. And if you get that data, you can gamify it, you can make a choice, and then it starts to have a touch point in every facet of your life, you know, your relationships, your kids, your career.

I have to tell you also, you know what? Life is much cheaper when you're healthy.

Thank you. There are a lot of people that don't read.

That's a good boy.

That's why I like getting clothes off the rack.

Yeah.

Boy. You ever seen a bill when there's no drinks on it?

Yeah, it's.

I know, right?

You know, the bill is usually like $900. Why is this 200? And you know how much longer you stay there when everybody's drinking? I mean, boy, life, you know, when you're not thinking about, oh, wait, when we have to have dinner, you're like, like, no, let me just eat this really right now. And this is fine. You know, I have a breasted chicken. I love my little panini things. I just put two thighs in it, no skin. Eat those up really quick with some onions and just done. And you're gone.

Right?

And you would have paid. I'd have paid $70 for somebody just to do that for me. Yeah. So life is so much cheaper and I have it. People don't realize people, when you have money, you are the cheapest bastard on the planet.

Bothers you that. Yeah. We have a billionaire friend and took us to dinner at a steak restaurant in Vegas not too many nights ago. And the bill came and he was taking care of it. And then while the bill was on the table, the waiter got an order for a cup of coffee from an espresso from somebody across the table. And there's like 15 people at this dinner. I'm guessing it probably ran four grand. $4,500 and he was taking care of the bill. The waiter came back over, picked up the check, took it back and added the espresso. No, he lost his mind. Right. I would have to lost his mind because the principal drop in $4,500 and you literally came and took the check and went back and added the three dollar espresso.

Yeah.

Guess what had just happened to your tip.

Exactly.

And by the way, send a manager over here. I was like, whoa. Yeah, they are, they're conscious, very conscious of those kinds of things. Be, you know, just being nickeled and dimed. Nickel then dime today, you know, you.

Know why it is? I think because entrepreneurs, we're problem solvers and we're trying to see. We just don't. We, we like to say, wait a minute, how much more if I just now say I've wasted or not wasted, because that's what I enjoy the time. I spent millions more because of that lifestyle. And I could have put that on this lifestyle.

Right.

You know, before we tail off on the podcast, we only got a few minutes left. I definitely, you know, I've got the, the greatest mind in business here. I've got to get back to some business questions, but have you found over the course of, of your career that as you've accumulated a lot of different businesses in a lot of different industries, are you now looking for synergies between these companies and using that to kind of expound upon them? I mean, talk a little bit about your strategy for managing so many disparate business. Because you've got fashion and entertainment.

Yeah.

It seems so unrelated.

Yeah, well, you know, time is something you can never get back. And more the more successful people get, the more no's, the more times they say no. Because you have to, you have to maximize whatever time you have. Right. And. And that's the most critical thing to do. So that's what I do look for. I only look for synergies or you Know, coming to the end of the year, you know what I do? I, I, I started doing this about eight years ago. I look over a list of people I cut out of my life. The reason I do that is because if, if that person is toxic in my life or we're not good friends either. I'm not a good friend to them, they're not a good friend to me, but usually it's not. They're not a good friend to themselves, and they'll never be a good friend to me. And the time that I'm taking, solving their problems or fighting with them or feeling like I have just like, I don't have to go to dinner. I don't have to work with you. I don't have to be your friend because it's taking time away from me, maybe letting somebody else in my life I love or spending more time with my faith or my, My health or my daughter or my wife. So I'm trying to maximize all my aspects of time. Most of the billion. I'm not a billionaire. Most of the billionaires I know, they walk around with real. And I'm sure those old little books that we used to write in school with the black and white, and you colored them in DID ink all on the top. And I. What are you writing down? I always see them write down. And I'm talking about six separate billionaires. I'm writing down how to save taxes because everything changes. I said, what do you mean? Why are you saving taxes, Damon? If I'm gonna. I'm gonna do $400 million this year or argument's sake, in a bit. Or. Or make $400 million. I can either start a new business to try to make 200 million, or I can try to legally save 200 million of what I already have. Why would I do this?

Right?

There's no guarantee that this is even going to work. And it's going time away.

Right?

Maximizing time that they have.

Right?

It's the same in a business. If I have a business, how am I, am I going to use these? This same coo, cfo, same warehouse, same advertising, marketing. And I'm going to combine all that.

To get these economies of scale.

That's it.

Synergies.

Yeah. That's how factories work. They have. They call it. We have a line. We're using 70 or 80% of the line. That's how I even started my business. You know, a company I was working with, they were doing winter coats on their factory. So basically the factory was dormant. 70 of the time.

Wow.

And I said, can I put my jeans in there? You know, for that time was this with FUBU. Yeah. And that 30 million dollar business of coats now became 300 million dollar business of jeans.

Wow.

You maximize the time.

Right.

It's about everything. Even when I go speak, if I go speak, and I love being a philanthropic person about speaking for a car company. I'll say, hey, I'll say an extra hour, let me meet your best clients and what I normally will get paid, do me a favor, give me a credit for that amount of money in used cars and you donate Those to a 501C3 or my choice or your choice, you're going to get the tax write off a foundation, maybe a camp is going to get cars. I'm going to be there for, just for another hour and I'll speak to your best client who you will be able to say, hey, I got Damon John. Speak to your best client. I'll meet a great person. I just maximize an hour. What would I have been doing with that hour anyway?

That's so great. That's so amazing. You know, when, when, when we started this podcast, I remember we had a long talk about it and we decided, what's, what's the objective? What do we want to do here? And we both, we went through all kinds of iterations and we talked about how we could make it more successful and what kind of guests we could get on. And we ended on, we were having this discussion, we ended on, we just want to give without the expectation of receiving. So the idea is going to be to launch a podcast and just provide value and let that see where it's going to go.

And we thought this was just going to be like a fun thing we'd do on the side.

Yeah, it's led to amazing people, but it's led to amazing. And you know, sometimes, you know, as we've grown in popularity, I'll be at a football game or be in the airport or something, somebody will stop me. That's never paid me a dime, that's never done anything with any of my clinics, that's not on my supplements, that doesn't buy the red light bed or anything else and say, hey, you know what, I'm watching your podcast and watching your videos. It's made such a material change in my life. I do your breath work, your grounding, your sunlight. And it's amazing because we know now, the messages resonating goosebumps right now.

Yeah. The amount of people that have come to us and said, wow, People are going to hear this podcast and go, oh, my God, I got so much value from it, from a business perspective, from a health perspective, knowing that if Daymond John can do it, then I can do it.

Yeah.

Amen. And that's the biggest thing. Or they take notes on it. Hopefully somebody has taken some notes on the lab values that were pulled, because if it sounds familiar to you, then, okay, this is what I should go and have my doctor pull this. These are the lab values I should be paying attention to.

If you. If any place you. Most place you work, you know, and I know there's a big issue in this country, but if you have insurance, go get your blood done.

Exactly.

Amen.

Just start off.

Go get your blood done. Get a hormone panel.

Twice a year is better. You know, we have people that do it every single quarter just to really keep on top of what they've got going on. Just make sure they're in the right.

Have a data, though, too, you know, not. Not just on your business. It's so cool to have that data on your business.

You know what I learned a long time ago also, you know, people are. They have to have familiarity, right? And my wife is somebody who's been talking to me about this stuff for a long period of time, and we were familiar with you because you had lived in a building where. I said, okay, no problem. I was at a barbershop the other day, and the guy said, hey, I had somebody come into the barbershop. My wife's friend. And he. He's a doctor, a surgeon. He wanted to make African Americans aware of colon cancer. So what we did was we had him do a colon cancer conversation here at the barbershop. The barbershop is pretty big. He said, I had 400 men sign up for that.

What?

My goodness.

Wow.

And he said, I didn't realize. He said, politicians and the. An army and everybody. And. And. And sin. Companies have been using barbershops forever because they know how tight the community is. He said, but you know what I realize? If I'm walking down the street and somebody says, you want to hear about colon cancer screening? Get the hell out of my head. But, you know, but, you know, hood or, you know, you go. You go, yo, man, why you ain't coming to the colon cancer thing? Look how damn sweaty you look. You look like you sweat going in the elevator. Yo. Oh, yo, your man. And if you don't go there and then a. For a year after that, every time, you're like, oh, man, I feel, oh, see Cuz you wasn't at the colon cancer, homeboy. Yeah. You know, so, So I think another thing we can learn from this is whatever community you have, you know, you can take away what we're talking about, talking about here, but there are always going to be experts and of course, vet them, please. And don't have one answer to a wall. Right, Exactly. Use your community, your small little community to have these intimate conversations because it's on everybody's mind.

Right?

Right. They just don't trust who it's coming from. Right. So let this be the lead to say maybe we should do this in our beauty salon golf course. I don't care where it is, you know? Yeah.

The information is there, it's just.

How are you accessing so true, so amazing. Well, we, we end every podcast by asking each guest the same question. There's no right or wrong answer. I'm interested to hear yours. But what does it mean to you to be an ultimate human?

Well, I want to leave my daughter's, you know, a legacy. Not in here. And see, you know, I've been fortunate enough to be a little. A little brown boy that came from nothing. I didn't have a. I didn't have any money. No famous last name. I mean, I do have a famous last name, but if I call.

Well, now you do.

Well, I called to John to tell him I'm his son. He's not gonna believe.

He went back in the Bible now.

Yeah. But the ultimate human is to be somebody that makes the plan a little bit better, changes people's lives in a little bit of a better way and give them hope. I think, I think that's critical. I think it's being very responsible for your actions, owning up to it, learning and knowing that you're gonna make mistakes and even telling your kids when they're talking to you that, daddy, at that age I was still growing and I'm still growing now I'm human.

Right.

I think it's giving to those who are not in a good place, you know?

Yeah.

And. But also testing yourself. You know, too many of us have settled. We're all special.

Yeah.

You got to test yourself. Like, what's a life living without testing yourself? It's just. And, and I think we've allowed, many of us allow society or other people to set goals for us. You set your own goals. Like, how can you live without knowing you didn't try the hard and it's not easy and will happen.

Yeah.

But to be the ultimate human is, is to do those Things. So I'm always going to test myself. And by the way, you never arrive wife.

Yeah, I love that. I. I love. I'm gonna steal that from you. By the way, you can see it on my podcast now.

I'm close. That was very simple. Woman called my house, called my. My wife and her parents and she was like, damon, how did this woman get our number? Like, David, come on, man. You've been on. You've been a. You've been on a major network for 15 years. There's got to be some kind of security, this and that. No, I said, I said, you know what, honey? I'm going to call a couple people. I don't normally name drop, but I call a couple people. Number one. Robert is the number. He's. He's one of the top 10 cybercrime experts in the world. Wow. I called Robert. He said, how. Who called? I said, this woman called. He said, amazing. That's normal. Roberts answered everything. By the way. Damien, you can't do anything about it. Screw you, Robert. You. I don't believe you. I called Cuban. He said, said, Damon, that. You know, that happens to me too. I call Catherine Zeta Jones. She said, oh darling. I called Pitbull. He said, papo, that lady on the other line my. Right now myself. Right, so same ladies on the other line.

Yeah, we need to find her and hire go.

Hey now, since you're a star, let me tell you what you get. Nobody will ever know your business. It doesn't happen, right the that I ate when I was 20. I can't eat when I'm 50. Happily ever after doesn't mean happily ever after unless you make it happily ever after. Right? You being a successful entrepreneur today does not mean you'll be a successful entrepreneur tomorrow. And you being healthy today does not mean tomorrow. I didn't even know what a CAC score was until a guy standing over here, a YouTuber that I happen to know. Excellent. Dad told me what a CAC score was and I think I called you. I called somebody like, yeah, go down. And the doctor I doing my stress test, which after you, he said, damon, you completed that 12 minute stress test when a lot of people can't complete. Athletes can't complete some of these stress.

Wow.

I was like me. He's like, yeah. And he said the cat scores come down to like 200 and people never use them. I mean that's a. What is it? A calcium. What's the CAT calcium arterial score.

Yeah.

He said, people don't even know about this thing.

Yeah.

So, again, you have to keep learning. You never arrive.

I love that. I absolutely love that. Well, Damon John, thank you so much for giving us your time today. Thank you. Inspiring. You're a good friend. We love you. And your family love you.

And I love what you've been doing for the world, man. You deliver it in such a way, just like we do on Shark Tank. It is complicated, but there's a way to accomplish it on your terms if you do it the right way, at your pace.

Amen. If you've got a foundation, how would people find your foundation?

We have the Vulva foundation, but generally you can check out my podcast, where I love to go into deeper things such as this. Like, oh, we. We all have these. Like, how do we find your podcast on. My podcast is called that Moment. You know, very simple. When Michael Jordan got cut from the team and a little kid, everybody asked him, well, I want to know, what did he do that night? What did he eat? What was he thinking? Who would he call? Very detailed. I want to go into that.

That moment, right?

And I help other entrepreneurs. I have Game Changer meetings or my Rise Nation mastermind.

Rise Nation.

And of course, catch me on Shark Tank. And if you. And again, like we always say, do what within your means. If you're a startup, you can get a book from me. I have five books, but of course, my. My best one is the one for the kids. Read it with the kids and don't necessarily get it for me. Maybe Lewis Howe, maybe Tim Ferriss, maybe, you know, think and grow rich very soon. Get. Get them from anybody. But the information is there. It's just access to the information that people don't use.

Amazing. Thank you so much, Damon. You're a legend. And as always, guys, that's just science.