Bridging the GAP from Soldier to #1 Podcaster in the World with John Lee Dumas

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What is up. Fire Nation. The chief of Fire Nation John Lee Dumas. John, great to have you on the Get Attitude podcast. That's awesome.

Well, who is that guy? I'm fired up right now. I'm ready to run through that wall right behind me, man. I am prepared to ignite.

I love it. Well, ignite our list. Our listeners are called gappers. And as you heard, people come to the Get Attitude podcast because, well, quite frankly, a lot of times they don't have a positive attitude and we give them a sour once a week, not every day like you're doing, to listen to our unbelievable guests, which you are included to help them understand the power of positive thinking, the power of attitude. And look at how it is that you got from where you were to where you are and from who you were to who you are. And so our people sign in, our gappers, they sign in to find these clues of the masters, of the influencers, of the innovators, which you are. And we are just so thankful that you are here to spit your knowledge and your attitude on our people. So, John, thank you for being here.

Well, Glenn, it's an honor. Love your energy, love the vibe. And I will spit fire all day long with you, my man.

I love it. I love it. So let's first of all just talk about in its simplest form, what is your definition of attitude? And who would you say were your two best attitude coaches?

Attitude is perspective. It's like, what kind of perspective are you going to bring to this world? I mean, I was an officer in the US army for eight years. I did a 13 month tour of duty in Iraq. I could have had a really crappy attitude because, listen, life is tough. I mean, you're getting shot at every day, mortar rounds are falling, I'm a tank commander in charge of four tanks, 16 men, something's always breaking down. Attitude was everything, though, because, listen, I was the lieutenant, I was the platoon leader. My attitude was gonna dictate how the other 15 men operated on that mission. And if I had a bad attitude, they'd have bad attitudes and there'd be trouble, there'd be kias, there'd be missing in actions, there'd be deaths, there would really be serious consequences. So it was all about perspective for me. It was saying, hey, have the right perspective.

You're alive, you're breathing, you have an.

Opportunity to do something special today. Let's make it happen. And that just sinked down throughout my entire team, my entire platoon, and we made it happen. And I brought that perspective back, that attitude back. And when I eventually, many Years later, launched my first entrepreneurial venture. That's the kind of attitude I brought to entrepreneurs on fire every single day. And that's what I continue to do. 3000 plus interviews later, over 100 million total listens. Over 1.4 million listens a month in over 145 countries around the world. That's the focus. That's the attitude, man.

That's a way to bring it. How many tours did you do?

One 13 month tour.

Okay, well, first of all, most importantly, we want to thank you for your service. And I do appreciate it, and I know we all appreciate it. Talk to me maybe about the toughest day that you went through when your positive attitude was squashed, or where you had to battle the insides your heart and your mind to turn things around. And how did you do it? Just like people are going, look at being in war. I can't even imagine the degree of struggle that that would take. But there are people that are struggling, obviously here in America right now. But if you're listening, my guess is he's probably had a worse day than you've had. If you don't mind, I'd love to hear. We've had Sean Parnell on this program, Louise Saxon, We've had some unbelievable stories of veterans. Could you maybe take us to that day? What was the feeling in your heart and your gut and how you got through it?

Your point? Listen, there's a lot of Americans, there's a lot of humans in this world that are suffering right now, that are struggling right now. And you don't want to sugarcoat that. Suffering is real, struggle is real.

However, when you're able to have the right perspective and a better attitude, knowing that things could be worse, like, yep, absolutely, things could be better. Things could be better for everybody that exists in this world, but things could be a heck of a lot worse for pretty much everybody in this world as well. And so when I kind of have one of those bad days, Glenn and I had kind of to lose my perspective and my attitude, I zap myself back to this day that you just asked about. You know, I was on the QRF team, which is the quick reaction force. It's 130, no exaggeration, in Iraq. I mean, we're talking an absolute oven. It's disgusting outside, it's so hot, you can't even breathe. You don't even want to. And on top of that, you're in a tank. I mean, forget about it. Life is bad. You're sweating everywhere. You can't. You're dehydrated, everything's terrible. Your BDU's are just literally caked white and crispy because it's just all of your salt is just caked onto your uniform that you've been just giving out. And it's a terrible scenario. And our QRF team, Quick Reaction Force was called into the center of Habaniyah, which was a hotspot in Iraq back in 2004. And we had to react to, you know, a situation that was going down. And guess what? We went out with 16 men and we did not come back with 16 men. You know, I'll spare you the details, but over my 13 month tour of duty duty, only 12 of the 16 men that I deployed with returned. You know, and that was something that I'll forever have to live with because those are my decisions that were made. And on that day, that was one of those situations that happened. So whenever I think I'm having a bad day here in Puerto Rico, you know, hanging out, you know, with my unbelievably adorable dog Gus over there in the corner, I snap myself back and I say, things could be a lot worse right now.

Yeah, no doubt, no doubt. Talk to me. So many people believe that their attitudes come from a attitude coach, most of which we don't get to choose who are our parents. But tell me, who had the biggest influence on your attitude when it mattered, maybe as a kid, and maybe that person changed. As you've interviewed 3,000 people, my guess is you've had some people that have shifted your attitude as well. So maybe walk me through some of the lessons of the great attitude coach coaches, especially your first one that you've had.

I say my first one would be my father. I mean, he was also in the military.

He spent 32 years as a JAG officer in the Army. And I grew up, you know, he hung his own shingle as a lawyer, and he was his own boss. He was essentially like an entrepreneurial lawyer, and it was a small town, so he had to shift and adjust. Sometimes it was focusing on real estate, sometimes personal injury, sometimes workers compensation. But he was always working hard and he was always looking for new opportunities. And, you know, he was always having, you know, a positive attitude about what opportunities were around the corner. Like if something dried up, it was like, okay, that happens. We made the most of it. We squeezed that turnip dry. Now let's go hunt out that next opportunity. And, you know, he was a person that whenever I called him up at 2pm after school, he could leave work and come play catch with me and come hit the baseball around. Because he was his own boss. He may have had to go back to work that night because he had to get stuff done. But I saw, like, that attitude. I saw his perspective and I saw his hard work, and that was my first major influence.

That's cool. That's cool. It sounds a lot like me, where, if there's money to be made, let's go. And I was fortunate enough to be able to do that. Were you a jock in high school or as a kid at all?

I was.

I was voted most athletic of my high school class. Really all the major sports, and that was my thing.

You were a football guy?

Soccer, basketball, and I mix it up. In the spring, I actually did three different sports. Tennis, track and baseball.

And what do you think the lesson about team sports? Obviously, we didn't do all team sports. How did being an athlete change your attitude or how did it influence and does it still influence what you learn today? What was the greatest attitude lesson you got playing all those sports back then? Who was your favorite coach that maybe meant the most to you?

You know, we were never great at any of the sports that I played as far as, like, our win loss record. And some of the coaches you could just see as the season went on, they just kind of gave up and they just, you know, when we were like 2 and 10, you know, 3 and 7, like, and the playoffs were kind of out of sight, you can see coaches, some coaches just kind of pack it in and kind of give up. And the reality is, you know, there was one coach and, you know, he was my basketball coach that never, ever stopped. I mean, there was one season we were like 1 in 12. And he would still write these, like, pages and pages of prep work, you know, on the different plate on the team that we were playing, the different positional players, what their weaknesses were, what their strengths were. And it was just like this guy was going to give it his all no matter if we were playing for the state championship game or we were literally just playing, you know, a game that he knew we were going to lose. But, you know, let's give it our best anyways. And I just kind of always respected, you know, that hustle and that commitment to the team because, listen, in high school, sportsman, snap the fingers. It's over. Like, you know, I was playing in front of packed houses, you know, for basketball. Some of my best memories are in that court. And it's over in a minute. And when the coach gives up on you, like now that's kind of like your major memories. And so that I look back on very fondly.

That's cool. We have a lot of professional athletes. I was a football guy and Joe Wrights came on. He played offensive tackle for Peyton Manning here in Indianapolis. And he said, glenn, there are coaches that are transactional and there's coaches that are transformational. And so anytime I can give hail and I coach football for 25 years to a transformational coach, I love it. Do you remember the guy's name?

Oh, yeah. Mr. Stinson.

Mr. Stinson. I had a basketball coach named Mr. Stinson, too. How funny is that? Too good. Okay, well, let's talk a little bit about this upcoming book that you got going. Hey, I've done it. I don't know. I can't believe I did it. It's like a blur now. But tell me, what was your attitude when people said, you got to write a book, you got to write a book. And then when you actually sat down to try to write the book, people are listening that have a book inside of them, but they keep talking themselves out of it. They didn't make it happen. You did give us the mindset it took. What are some of the tricks that you tricked yourself into? What did you say? What was your attitude on creating this book that is now going to be your Legacy?

Listen, in 2012, I wasn't ready to write a book. I didn't have a book to write. In 2016, I was still learning my path.

2020 came along and a book agent reached out to me and said, John, like, I listened to your show. I believe you have a book in you. Do you? You know, and I said, you know what? It is honestly now calling to me like, I've interviewed 3,000 successful entrepreneurs over the past eight years. Not to mention I've been a multi million dollar a year business with entrepreneurs on fire for seven years in a row. Like, I've learned a lot. I've failed a lot, I've succeeded a lot. And I've learned so much from these guests that I've interviewed as well that I truly believe. And I sat down and actually quickly sketched it out, you know, before I got back to this agent. And I said, wow, what is in front of me? What I just sat down and sketched out. This is a 17 step roadmap to financial freedom and fulfillment. Now I just need to flesh it out. Every step is a chapter. Every step is a chronological step along this path to financial freedom and fulfillment. And I just spent all of 2020 busted my booty. Spending the first two hours every day before I did anything else. Glenn. No phone, no email, no computers, nothing. First two hours committed to writing this book. 500 words. A thousand words that added up over time. 71,000 words later, the book is complete, my man. It has been personally endorsed by Gary Vaynerchuk, Seth Godin, Neil Patel, Dori Clark, Erica Mandy. Like such an amazing all star lists. Very proud of that. And it's exactly what it sounds like. It's the common path to uncommon success. People want you to think success is tricky, that it's complicated, this is hidden, that it's a, you know, that it's a secret, all those things, but it's not true. Like you've been lied to when you've heard that. The path to uncommon success, it's simple, it's clear, it's not easy, but it's simple and it's clear and it's there for you. It's a common path to uncommon success. So I wrote this book. I knew that this was the book, the message that I had to share with the world. And I'm going all in on it, brother. It is my legacy.

Like you said, I love it. So can you give us the. Well, number one, you can pre order the book on John Lee's website. So go to his website, make sure you order that book. And when this airs, it probably will. When is it launching? When are you putting it out there?

Great question. So number one, you can see if you're watching video, the website right behind us. Yes, it's uncommonsuccessbook.com uncommonsuccessbook.com you do not want to wait until the book comes out on March 23rd because we have five amazing pre order bonuses. Because pre orders make or break a book launch period, Amazon bases their entire bulk order off of pre order. So we're doing everything in our power to get everybody to pre order because that's how the book wins and gets in front of as many people as possible. So these bonuses disappear on March 23rd. In fact, we're pulling them as the weeks go forward. So some of them will be gone very soon. But right now, all five bonuses are there. Just one of them, Glenn. I'm shipping all three of my journals. Boom Mastery and Podcast Journal. I'm shipping it to your door. It's $150 worth of journals being shipped.

To your door for a $17 Kindle.

Or a $28 hardcover pre order of this book. There's four other unbelievably amazing bonuses. And again, this is above and beyond the book itself, which is going to change your life. If you follow the roadmap and you go through and create your version of uncommon success. And I mean this too, and I'm not saying this to be mean or cruel, I'm actually saying this to be helpful. If you read this book and you.

Apply the principles and you follow the roadmap, and after six months you haven't found your version of uncommon success, you should not be an entrepreneur. You should not be whatever you want to call yourself, an online marketer or entre, whatever it is, go find a 9 to 5 job, go back to corporate America, go do. And nothing wrong with that. Again, I'm not being mean. Like I've done those things before. They just weren't me. I was meant to be an entrepreneur. Not everybody is, though. Number 37 at Facebook, Glenn has made a lot more money than you and I will ever make in our lifetime. And they found what was right for them and they're crushing it. So I'm not saying there's a right or a wrong. And again, it's just this book will help you identify if you've got it. Because if you've got it, this roadmap, it'll crush it for you. If you don't go back to the drawing board, there's another path for you, and it's not this one.

And that is uncommonsuccessbook.com to get all those great journals included with your pre order purchase. Jason, go ahead and move John Lee Dumas podcast up. So this airs if you could maybe on our first or second.

Roger, that would be awesome. That'd be great.

Yeah, that just so we can facilitate the pre order for you, which is good. Now, one question I always love to ask people, and some people aren't lucky, like me. Tell me about your grandparents. Did you love your grandma, Grandpa? Did they have a place in your life or did you not get to know them?

Super lucky there. Loved them. My father's father, so my grandfather on my father's side actually died when he was 21, so I never saw him. He's actually my namesake, John Louis Dumas.

Wow.

Yeah, he was a major in the army. Never got to meet him.

Military too. Interesting. Very interesting. Okay.

But my grandmother on his side still lives to this day. She's 90 years old. She's amazing and you know, love her to death and grew up one mile down the street from her, so was super lucky there. My grandparents on my Other side. My grandfather died when I was like, 13 from Lou Gehrig's disease, which is really sad to see. But, you know, I did get to know him. That was, you know, 13, you know, 12, 11, 10. Like, you're old enough to really spend time with people at that age. And then my grandmother passed away, like, seven or eight years ago. So, you know, I had a lot of time with her, which was amazing. And she lives only like four or five miles away. So I did get to spend a lot of time with my grandparents, and I still have one around.

That's awesome. And then what's the attitude lesson as you feel them, as you look about them, as you reflect on them or the stories? What's the lesson you take from that generation of people who blessed you with their life?

That they understand what it means to actually earn a living and earn money and at the same time not be frivolous with it. And, you know, I have a lot of people in my life who are like, John, you're making hundreds of thousands of dollars a month.

Which I am. Right.

And you're keeping that, that amount of money too. Because I live in Puerto Rico. I only pay 4% tax. Like, why don't you have a yacht? Why don't you have a jet? Why don't you have all these different things? And I'm like, it's kind of my Yankee values. I mean, it's like, do I have an unbelievably beautiful multimillion dollar home here in the Caribbean? Yes. Like, I did. I did go all out on that. But beyond that, man, we got like a Hyundai Santa Fe in my garage. And that's our one car. You know, we have a used golf cart. You know, like, I'll spend money on experiences and certain things. Like, we go on a 90 day European trip every single year, obviously, minus 20, 20 because of COVID But every year, we've been doing that for five years in a row. And I will spend money on that. But at the end of the day, man, it is hard to get me excited about spending money. Like, I learned that from them. It's like, if you need it and you want it and it's worth it. Yes. But otherwise, like, man, this dollar was hard to come by. Like, I'm not just gonna throw it away.

What's the biggest mistake you see people making when it comes to their perspective or their attitude in life? I mean, as you look around, thoughts on that.

So I feel like one of the biggest problems that people are having right now as they're trying to kind of make their way in this world is they've kind of accepted this platitude of fake it till you make it. You know, where they just want to, you know, people to think that they're this big deal or that they've accomplished this and accomplished that, because for whatever reason, you know, they're embarrassed about the fact that they're the earlier part in their journey. But instead, you need to embrace the fact of wherever you are in this journey. Like, when I started back in 2012, like, I was a terrible podcaster. Like, I embraced that. I told my audience, hey, listen, this is my first show or my seventh show. Like, I'm bad. I'm gonna try to bring you great guests, and I'm gonna try to have them give you value, because Lord knows I have no value to give you right now in my journey. But I promise you, I'm gonna work hard. I'm gonna get better. And people resonated with that. They rooted for me. Like, when I was getting better, they'd email me and be like, you're not terrible anymore.

Yay.

And, like, you're still pretty bad, but you're not terrible. And it was a funny thing. And my audience resonated with that because now they could, you know, see me full of flaws, full of struggles, full of obstacles and challenges, just trying to get a little bit better every single day. And that was my journey and was the.

It was it. Entrepreneurs on fire, like that was. And you. So, you know, when I. When I researched you, I was like, holy shit. This guy's been doing this for eight years, right? I've had a lot of people tell me great things about you, John. But you know what they never say, though? I never heard. I thought you were two years into this, and you're, boom, flash in the pan. And I pull up the timeline, and I'm like, this dude's been doing this for eight freaking years. And talk to me about the power of your persistence, maybe where that came from. What's the lesson of persistence? How can you help our listeners commit and be persistent with what they're going for?

You need to sit down and identify what your big idea is, which, by the way, happens to be chapter one in the book. Identify your big idea. So many people are spending every day not in their zone of fire. They're not doing their big idea. Your big idea is something you're both passionate, excited, enthusiastic about, but also you have expertise, knowledge, and skills in. You need to have those ingredients commingled and combined into one zone of fire, into one big idea. Once you've identified that big idea, which, by the way, is a process, it's not a long process, but it's a process, then you can discover your niche within that big idea. That niche, by the way, that is doing one thing better than anybody else is able to do. That is being the best solution to a real problem.

And then once you've got that, you sink your teeth into that and you persist and you are patient and you deliver, deliver, deliver value, value, value as the best solution to a real problem in the marketplace. And then you win. And it's not tomorrow or next week or next month. It's over time. It took me 480 episodes before I felt like I was a decent interviewer, before I felt like I was a decent podcaster. That's a year and a half of doing it every day. Yeah, most people don't do anything for a week straight, let alone a year and a half straight. And now fast forward. I did 2,000 episodes in 2,000 days. That's five and a half years of never missing a day. Now I have 3,000 plus episodes. 100 million listens. 1.4 million listens a month. Not from overnight. Not because I launched a year and a half ago, like some people might have assumed, but because I launched eight and a half years ago and have never stopped.

I commend you, my friend. You found your zone of fire and what John Lee just told us gappers you can find@uncommonsuccessbook.com you need to get on because if you just like that bit, because that was like a nugget. That was awesome. I've been writing the whole time that will keep you persistent. We're going to take a brief break. We're going to come back with knowledge through the decades. I just need about 10 more minutes with you, if that's okay.

I got to the top of the hour.

You are the man. All right, we'll be right back. This is Glenn, Bill and John Lee Dumas on the Get Attitude podcast.

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And this is Glenn Bill with the Get Attitude podcast. You guys want to go to uncommonsuccessbook.com we are here with John Lee Dumas. We are going to do knowledge through the decade to close this podcast out. This is a little technique that we created at the Gap. That's been fun. And John Lee, I know that no kids that you've had, but certainly, you know, babies or you've seen people that have had babies. What do you think the attitude lesson is of a newborn baby?

Just wide eyed optimism. You know, they're just there, they're looking around, they're taking everything in. They're happy, they're experiencing life and they're just making the most of it. And you know, I do have a niece. I have a nephew. I got a lot of friends in my community here in Puerto Rico who have little, little ones. I think maybe one of your colleagues in exp AJ Maida just had a baby. So definitely seeing the babies around. A lot of wide eyed optimism.

I love it. And I always encourage all of our Gappers if you want to improve your attitude. Tony Robbins used to do this too. Look up at the ceiling, get the goofiest grin on your face and just start smiling. Be a wide eyed baby for one minute a day. It will change your state. I want you to go to 10 years old. Now, you grew up in the northeast, right?

Maine.

Holy moly. What part of Maine?

Kenny Buck.

All right, so you're in Kennebunkport. You're 10 years old. You're probably in third grade. Tell me what the attitude lesson you learned in third grade.

The attitude lesson I learned is that you're gonna get out of what you put into something. And that was just something that I learned. I can remember my third grade teacher right now, Mrs. Fitzpatrick. She was fantastic. And whatever it was, you know, whether it be multiplication tables, arts, you know, gym, she really made that lesson clear and it stuck with me.

Yeah. Repetition on the multiplication tables. Right. I can still see them in handwriting on our walls.

One through two, nine is 72.

Amen, baby. Amen. Yeah. And in real estate. Yeah. In our market I could basically multiply anything times 7% and come up with it just like that. Now, then, you went to Providence College, Big East. You know, I'm here in Indy, so if you ever come to Indy, number one for the. You know, we got the whole NCAA tournament. If you ever want to watch a Butler game, I live right down the street. I'll make sure that we get you great seeds.

We just owned Butler soul last game, by the way.

They destroyed them.

I loved it. Providence College made Butler look like. Like a high school basketball team.

Butler is killing me right now. But it's okay. We're going to get better. We've. We had our glory, but now they're finding out what persistence means, right?

Oh, yeah.

Flash in the pan, and now they're getting drubbed. But we actually beat Creighton, which was a good one, I think. Two or three nights, huge win for the Bulldog. So good. We'll talk a little hoops later. But tell me, 20 years old, what was the attitude lesson that you learned?

Be kind. Be kind to people. I mean, I was living at Providence college, small campus, 4,000 people. Everybody lived on campus or just. Right. Barely off campus, no commuters. And if you weren't kind, like, you were gonna get, rightfully so, a bad reputation. And, you know, it's a small family there, so there just wasn't much room for error. So luckily, I kind of took that from day one. I was coming into Providence, you know, from a very small town in Maine, so I was like, you know, man, a bunch of city kids here, like, what can I do? And I. It just kept that kindness going forward, and it was a huge reason for me having the best four years of my life.

Oh, good. That's awesome to hear. Be nice is number one, right? On our attitude boosters. I have the 10 boosters. Number one is be nice. Whatever you do, be nice. If you want to keep a positive attitude, baby, be nice. So I love that you said that at 20. Haven't had that answer at 20, actually. Let's go to 30 years old, right? I don't know. My guess is you finished your tour by the time you were at 30. So I think you gave us a really great lesson about your tour of duty. But if you can think back to 30 years old, 10 years ago, number one, did you have a party? You remember your party? Who were you with? But number two, what was the attitude lesson of you being 30?

I actually don't remember my 30th birthday party. I must have done something, but it's not coming to mind real quick. I did have an awesome 40th birthday party, which was really sweet. I can remember that.

We'll do that one day.

That was only one year ago.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

But at 30, I would say be happy. Like, that was my attitude. And I can remember, like, laying in bed at night and, you know, life wasn't perfect, but I always just like, before I was drifting off to sleep, like, force is kind of a strong word, but, like, I would just kind of have myself smile. Like, I would just smile in bed, like, for no great reason. I would just kind of lean back, kind of just be like, I'm in a comfortable bed, you know, in a comfortable room, and I'm just gonna smile and. Because I spent a lot of uncomfortable nights, you know, being in the army, that's one thing you do. So I was out of the army by 30. So, you know, I smiled and I just, you know, that was kind of the last thing I did at night again, as I drifted off to sleep. And I think that's important.

Yeah, I mean, I'm feeling like it's a gratitude play. It's a reflection play. And I think that's great advice for everybody that's listening to us on this podcast right now. Let's rock it to 40. Tell us about your cool party, if you want, and what's the attitude lesson right now for you? What are you living. What can you tell our Gappers about hope, about themselves? What is the one thing you're going to say to the people that are going, my attitude sucks. I'm here on the Gap and John Lee hadn't given me shit right now.

John, I've given unbelievable amounts of awesomeness.

You've been dropping bonds, but you know.

People, Anybody who thinks that is just wrong. But no. My 40th birthday party, my fiance took me up to San Juan, Puerto Rico, for just an amazing, you know, double date. Just not. Sorry, not a double date. Just an amazing date night. And as we walked through the. The hotel lobby where we were staying that night, like, four of my best couple friends just walked in. Like she had planned it. People flew in from Colorado, from Boise, from here, from there. And it was a shock. And we had the best night ever. And that was pretty amazing. And so my thing for 40 would be 100% is how I actually start my day now is gratitude. You know, I've written those three journals that I shared with you. The first line in those journals is, what's something unique that I'm grateful for like, if you start your day with that day, can only get, you know, better from there. If you maintain that philosophy.

I want to commend you. I saw your fiance on your website. I. I'm a sucker for love. So congratulations. And I think it's cool that you would honor her on your website. Not a lot of guys do that. Do you have a date planned? That's how you roll. I like it. It's all good. Well, John Lee Dumas, I want to respect your time. The busiest podcaster on entrepreneurship, certainly in America. And we are so privileged to have you. For the 37 minutes you gave us, make sure you go to Uncommon Success. Is that right? Uncommonsuccessbook.com I'm going to do that right now and buy mine and get my journals. Uncommonsuccessbook.com John Lee Dumas, you are the rock and roll star. Tell Ken Wall, as I said, what's up? And is there any one last thought you would like to leave us as we enter into 2021? A word of encouragement or just anything you'd like to share with our people to help them stay positive and live their dreams.

It's an Albert Einstein quotes. Try not to become a person of success, but rather a person of value.

Boom. And that does it all. Guys, this is Glenn Bill from the Get Attitude podcast with John Lee Dumas reminding you to stay positive. This podcast is a part of the C Suite Radio Network. For more top business podcasts, visit c-suiteradio.com.