Clint Arthur
31 Mar 2020 · 52 min
Clint Arthur on how mentors like Tony Robbins shaped his path from taxi driver to real estate investor, and why getting photographed with celebrities matters more than you think for business. He breaks down three attitude mistakes that kill entrepreneurs and how he got past substance abuse to build what works.
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Great to be with you, Glenn.
I'm so honored to have you. We are just. I was telling so many people about who we are getting ready to have on, and we're just so excited to have you and the wealth of information and wealth of knowledge that you bring. And hey, look at. I gotta credit you. The reason that the ABCs of attitude became a reality was because I sat in a hotel room with you in Atlanta, and as you worked with me, the ideas flew and then, boom. You know, there's no question I'm here because of you. So it's an honor to have you and welcome. And we are here today to talk about attitude booster number five. Have a mentor copy him or her. And boy, we don't have anybody better than Clint. Clint, let's. Let's just go ahead and start with that. Tell me, number one, I'd love to know your definition of attitude, but I'd also love to know who some of your best mentors are or were and maybe some of the best lessons they taught you. And what does having a mentor really mean to you?
I've had a million mentors, Glenn, and that has propelled my success and allowed me to achieve so much and to do so much and to be so much and to have so much, so much more income influence and income impact. Influence and income as a result of modeling and studying these mentors. So who are some of the mentors? Well, obviously, Tony Robbins is a great mentor. Now, what I do is called celebrity entrepreneurship. And what that means is not that you're famous. Being a celebrity entrepreneur doesn't make you a famous person. Most celebrity entrepreneurs are not famous. In fact, I say, Tony Robbins is not famous. You go into any bank, any supermarket, you go into any teller or cashier and you say, hey, do you know Tony Robbins? And they're gonna say, tony who?
Right?
You go into any place and you say, tony, do you know Grant Cardone? And they're going to say, who?
Right?
These people are not famous. Only their customers and prospects think that they are somebody special. And that is your goal as a celebrity entrepreneur, to have your customers, clients, prospects predisposed to Hire you if they can get you want them coming in and saying, oh, man, if I could get Glenn Bill to work with me, man, I'm signing up today, and the wife's going to say, yeah, but how much is that going to cost, honey? And he's going to say, I don't care how much it's going to cost. I got to have Glenn Bill. If I could get him, I'm going to sign. That's what you want. And you can accomplish that if you do what these celebrity entrepreneurs do in order to position themselves as being somebody very special in the eyes of customers and prospects. I study with them, and I model all of my efforts on what these people did.
That's fantastic. So you gave us one. That was Tony Robbins. Give us a couple more. Give us a couple more people that mentored who. I know the idea of celebrity entrepreneurship really came from your DNA would be my guess. From your gut. I think you're the one that coined it. But who helped you?
I did. I wrote the book.
Right, right. Who helped pull that out of you? Just like you helped pull ABCs out of me.
Do you remember Dan Kennedy?
Dan the man?
Now I became Dan Kennedy's Info Marketer of the Year at the end of 2013. Dan Kennedy. If you know who Dan Kennedy is, then you think that Dan Kennedy is a living legend. In fact, Dan Kennedy is such a living legend, he inspired my event a couple months ago at Carnegie hall in New York City. I had Martha Stewart and Ice T and Coco, his beautiful wife, and Jerry from Ben and Jerry's and Michael Gerber and Scorpion, the smartest man in the world. And I was supposed to have Dan Kennedy as one of my speakers. But as you may know, Dan Kennedy ran into some health issues. He was actually in hospice. He was supposed to die.
Oh, my.
He's trying to die. And I said. I said, look, Dan Kennedy's not gonna die. Dan Kennedy is gonna get sick and tired of trying so hard, working so hard in hospice, trying to kill himself because he didn't want to compromise his lifestyle. He couldn't have the Dan Kennedy lifestyle, driving his racehorses and driving around in Dean Martin's Rolls Royce. He couldn't live the way he wanted to on his terms. He didn't want to live. And I predicted that he was going to get to a point where he said, well, geez, if I'm going to be working this hard, I need to be getting a check. He ultimately checked himself out of hospice, and now he's back on the road to Recovery, as I predicted. But Dan Kennedy is my main mentor. He's the guy who once I won his award as Info Marketer of the Year, I really started looking at what is Dan Kennedy all about? And I started traveling the country, going to his seminars and studying him closely. And I heard him say a couple things that have completely shaped my career. Number one, he said, your number one job as an entrepreneur is to raise your status in the eyes of customers and prospects. Wow. If you need to be becoming a bigger who in their eyes, if you're not who ing, you are doing the wrong thing. Wow, that's just good. So whenever I'm like, here's how it really comes down. Now, a lot of what I do is I work with clients, people like yourself, and I custom design specific plans of action of how you're going to become a bigger who in the eyes of your customers and prospects. But when I'm doing that, I'm doing the wrong thing. I'm not supposed to be doing that. I'm not supposed to be taking my time delivering services. What I'm supposed to be doing is this, which is appearing on broadcasts, on podcasts, having my radio show here at WABC Radio in New York City, going on tv, speaking on stages, where I'm getting not just audiences and customers and prospects, but also raising my status because it's high status speaking opportunities. Like when I've spoken at the Harvard Faculty Club, when I've spoken at nasdaq, when I've spoken at Mercedes Benz and Coca Cola and West Point. All of those things. Not just gave me opportunities to get in front of audiences of customers and prospects. But now I've got the photos of those appearances, I've got the videos of those appearances. If you look for Clint Arthur on the Internet, some of the videos you're going to find are those very videos of those high status speaking engagements that I just talked about. Those contribute very powerfully to my ability to earn seven figures a year, year after year after year. I'm having record year after record, year after record year over and over and over because of the way I'm positioning myself as somebody very important, a celebrity in the eyes of customers and prospects.
Yeah, that's just fantastic. And for our gappers out there, look it, we have gappers that are at the top of their game. We have gappers that are personal development nuts, but we also have gappers that are down. We have gappers that are stuck. We have gappers that are in a rut that go, there's no way I could become Clint Arthur. There's no way I could become a celebrity. I don't have the resources. I don't have the drive. Clint, I want to talk about attitude. I want to talk about taking those people, the gappers who need a hand up. The gappers who are at the bottom of the rung right now. Number one, I'd love to know, were you ever at the bottom of the rung? And how did you get out of it? What was your attitude? Tell us that story and give us some hope for those people that go, Clint, all this bullshit is great and all this CNN's great, but, man, I'm hurting right now and I need a hand. I need somebody to save me. Talk to those people for us real quick.
Well, where were you on December 31, 1999? Were you partying with family and friends? Were you getting Y2K cash out of an ATM? I was driving yellow cab number 6087 in Los Angeles, California. I was going into my sixth year of being a taxi driver, and in the back of my cab that night were these two guys who were NBA interns at Goldman Sachs. I was listening in on their conversation as I'm driving them to a party in the hills. Hey, man, did you hear about Mr. Carrera? They made him the last partner at Goldman right before the ipo, and he cashed out a gazillion dollars. And I'm like, hey, you guys talking about Chris Carrera? How do you know Mr. Carrera? Chris Carrera was a pledge in my fraternity when I was an undergrad at the Wharton Business School. Hey, I used to make those little punks dance around the living room of the house when I was the pledge master with their tighty whities on top of their heads. And now this punk just cashed out a gazillion dollars. And I made $513 on New Year's Eve of the millennium driving that cab. And so, believe me, I know what it feels like to be down and out, right? Because all of my fraternity brothers were becoming millionaires, some of them billionaires with a B, while I was surviving behind the wheel of a taxi. And it was that low point that helped me to rebound because your. What is it that they say? Your set, your setback is really a set up, right, Les Brown, for your comeback, right?
Yeah, there you go, right? Number eight.
You got to have that. You got to really have that. Now, I asked Martha Stewart a question that will help all of you guys who are at the bottom. And she. There are two questions I asked her, first of all, I said, what's the most important thing you ever learned? And she said, I. My daddy told me that I could do anything, and I believed him. And look what she's accomplished. She's done it all. Then the second question somebody specifically asked her, I'm pretty sure it was Melinda Stallings question, which was, how important is a positive attitude.
Wow.
To your success? And she said, a positive attitude is everything. When she was in prison.
Yes.
Okay. She didn't call it going to jail. She refers to it as going to Yale.
I love it. Yeah. Now that's a good attitude.
Yeah, that's a good attitude. She went to Yale.
Yeah. That's all it was. I love it.
Yeah. And you know, a lot of really rich people go to Yale and they don't even come out. They come out in a body bag. Right. Martha Stewart came out bigger than ever. She went and sold her company. Now she's on the board of directors of the company that bought her, and she's bigger than she ever was. And that's all because of her positive attitude, not allowing a few months in Yale to get her down. And if she could do that, think about how far she fell.
Yeah.
You think you're having a hard time? You're bemoaning your fate, how difficult it is for you. Yeah. You got nothing on Martha Stewart. Martha Stewart fell from international celebrity to going to jail in federal prison, and now she's bigger than ever. How do I know? Because I paid her more money than I've ever paid anybody, and I was happy to get her. And that's what this is all about. Finding customers and prospects who are going to be excited and happy and predisposed to buy you if they can get you. How do you do that? That's by becoming a celebrity entrepreneur. And that's not being famous because I told you, Tony Robbins, you go into any Starbucks. Hey, do you know who Tony Robbins is? Who?
Right. Yeah. You go to Monticello, Indiana, in White county and go to the Stop and Shop. They don't know him, but 90% of America doesn't know him. Right?
Yeah. But Glenn, Bill was excited to give Tony Robbins. Would you go to Business Mastery? Would you go to.
Oh, hell, I'm a graduate of Tony Robbins University. I forked over all kinds of money for him.
You must be up to six figures with Tony. Have a picture with him. That's like your most prized possession. Yes, I've seen it.
Yes. But that was. That was. I was at business. He literally walked up to me and I had my university of attitude, right? Because you taught me it's about your costume. I had it on and he just saw it and he looked at me and I don't know. And he just said, let's take a picture. And I did. And I was ready because you taught me to be ready for those celebrity snapshots. Give us your teachings on being ready for the celebrity snapshot and what that's done for you.
Man, I have made so much money from celebrity selfies, it's not even funny. But more important than that is the impact and the influence that I've been able to achieve with customers and prospects, because the work I do is meta. I work. All my clients are like you. They're leaders, they're change makers, they're difference makers. They're having impact in the world on their own. So when I advise you, for example, to write a book about attitude, and you do look at the impact that that has when. Because now it's turned into this podcast and it's turned into Attitude University, it's all these things and touching so many lives. And the power of these selfies is that being in pictures with celebrities just rubs off. Like their stardom rubs off on you. It's my favorite technique of celebrity entrepreneurship is being in photos with famous people. That's why I have this event coming up in June with Dr. Oz and Dr. Drew and a NASA astronaut and the real Patch Adams and the Surgeon General of the United States. I mean, for anybody who's in medicine, it's a no brainer. I mean, if you can get a ticket like this is how you should be feeling. If I can get a ticket to go to that event and get pictures with those people, I'll pay whatever I need to pay to do that. If you're in medicine, that's for sure. But really, if you're anybody, you should feel that way because Dr. Oz is no longer just a medical guy. He has a talk show called the Dr. Oz Show. I mean, Donald Trump was on that show when he was running for president. This isn't a political statement. I'm just saying Donald Trump's not a medical guy. He's just somebody famous. And all kinds of famous people go on the Dr. Oz Show. And he is, to me, I believe, the top celebrity working in the industry today, in the celebrity business today, because of his talk show and his wide ranging interests and appeal to all kinds of people who all love Dr. Oz.
And look it, I've been to Clint's events. I'VE seen Clint's events. I've seen what Clint's events do. They're worth every penny. This is the instant marketing miracle for experts and entrepreneurs with Dr. Oz, Dr. Drew, the surgeon General. If you guys want to buy a ticket, you need to go to imm20.com and look at what it takes, especially if you're in the medical field. We have a lot of medical field entrepreneurs in our audience, which is great. I want you to now that we've talked to the people that may be down and out that are at the Get Attitude podcast because they need a kick in the butt and they need to bridge the gap and they need to get over it. We also got some pretty kickass podcast listeners who are successful that need to push it to the next level. Tell us your attitude message for these people that are successful, some uber successful, but we can always grow. We can always go, Clint, what's your attitude message for those who think they've hit it, but you know they haven't?
Hey, if you're not Kim Kardashian, if you're not Kanye west or Martha Stewart or Dr. Oz, you haven't hit it. I mean, I'm sure you're doing well. All my clients are doing really well. They're all making a lot of money and having a lot of success. Those are the only kinds of people who I work with. And if you really want to go to the next level, then you have to play the game that the real successful entrepreneurs are doing. What would Apple Computer be without Steve Jobs? How do you become a Steve Jobs? You need to become a Steve Jobs. And there are very specific action items that you can do. There's basically five action items that you can do. That's what I teach in celebrity entrepreneurship, and celebrity selfies are my favorite one. And I teach all of these action steps and what you can do at the instant marketing miracle. Okay, all you've got to do, here's the beauty of what I deliver. And this is something that every one of you who is listening right now should be thinking, well, how can I do that for my customers and prospects?
Right?
What I deliver is you just show up and you get the transformation. That's all you have to do is show up. How can you deliver that for your clients? And I'm not talking about putting a band aid on a bleeding. It's not about a band aid. It's about a deep internal bleeding that gets cured just by showing up. That's the power of what I offer. How does your product or service offer the same thing for your customers and prospects. That's what you need to be thinking about. And what I have found is that the real pain that people have is that for my clients, as successful as they are, they're worried deep down it's going to go away.
Right?
Some mechanism I'm using, I've got Facebook ads all figured out. But Facebook ads, they could go away like that. Or Google could switch the algorithm and you're no longer on Page One or your media, whatever you're using. Maybe you're advertising on TV, maybe you are doing LinkedIn work. Whatever it is, if you don't control it, it can be taken away. And that's the deep bleeding that I actually cure. Because when you walk through the portal to the Instant marketing miracle with Dr. Oz and Dr. Drew and me, where I teach in depth how to make celebrity entrepreneurship happen, then you no longer feel like they can take it away. You no longer feel like your employees can steal the business from you, or that your competitors can steal your customers, or that you need to come up with new stuff because you will feel that you're enough. That's the deep wound. So how are you healing a deep wound that your customer and prospect is suffering from? Think about that and answer that question. And that was worth every minute of this podcast that you've been listening to.
Amen. Amen, brother. I, I. And I've been. I'm going to start calling you Dr. Clint, man. You're so freaking good, guys. You got to go to ClintArthur.com you got to go to Celebrity Launchpad. I have done this. I've paid this man. And I have 10x my investment. And eternally grateful for Clint and his advice. I talk about the three biggest mistakes on attitude. I'd like to just get your quick, not to turn negative, but I, but I think this is important because I think you can address this. The first biggest mistake is this thing called attitude addiction. And are you addicted to your attitude? Talk to us a little bit about addiction, what addiction means to you and what you see people look at. I know the one thing I know about celebrity is Americans have no idea how addicted they are to celebrity. So that's one thing that we've talked about. And I don't know if you said that or somebody else told me that, but I think it was you. And I went, wow, you're right. But there are people listening to this that are addicted to some negative thought, behavior, belief, something. Talk to us a little bit about addiction, how you break Addiction and what you see with the people you work with, what are they addicted to that they need to overcome?
Hey, I know a lot about addiction. I thank God, went to this raw vegan retreat in December of 2009. And one of the rules was no drugs or alcohol. And as a result of that, I stopped drinking and smoking marijuana on December 9, 2009. December 14, 2009. Now, I started drinking again as soon as I got out two weeks later. But thank God, it broke. Either an addiction or a very strong habit of smoking marijuana back in 2009. And, man, my life has rocketed since I stopped smoking pot. I don't know why anybody would smoke pot. Hey, if it works for you, okay, I hear you. But all I know is that once I stopped smoking marijuana, six weeks later, I did my first of 109 television appearances, and my career as a celebrity entrepreneur was really launched. Wow. Then, luckily for me, when I went on the Today show, that was always my big goal was to get on the Today show to share my message about living as if this is going to be the last year of your life. That's how I live. I was at a men's self help campfire back in 2008, and the Shaman pointed at me across the yellow and orange crackling flames, and he goes, you don't know it yet, but you're already dead. I'm like, what are you talking about, man? I'm the most successful guy on this team. Eight years ago, I was driving a taxi. Now I live in a mansion. I'm a millionaire. You're already dead. You just don't know it. And I didn't know what he was talking about. And that became a way of life for me. I started living as if, well, what if this was gonna be the last year of my life? What would I want to accomplish? And at the end of 2013, I got the call from the Today show. They called me.
Wow.
And I was on there with Brooke Shields and Willie Geist. And Willie goes, hey, Clint, you have a great idea. You ask yourself a question every year. What's that question? And I said, if this was going to be the last year of your life, what would you want to accomplish?
Right.
That's amazing. Question.
Unbelievable.
That question took me all the way to Today Show. And the amazing thing is, I went out. That was New Year's Eve 2013, and I went out partying with my wife. And the next morning, I woke up and I said, you know what, honey? I think I'm done drinking. And she's like, huh? What? And she didn't like it, man. She did not cooperate in my cleansing, in my clinting exactly. To try to quit drinking. But here I am, six years later, stone cold sober. And I tell you, man, it ain't easy all the time to stay sober. It's not easy to break addictions. But what I have done is I continue to look at what do I get by maintaining my vigilance against my addictions. What do I get by not drinking? What do I get by not smoking? I'll tell you what I get. I get so much more confidence. I can't even believe it. So much more belief in my own self. So much less paranoia and doubt, so much less doubts about what is possible for me because I'm not consistently programming my own mind to believe that I'm less. See, when you're drinking, you know you're impaired. When you're smoking, you're not as good as if you were clean and sober. And you know that.
Yes.
I just did a celebrity entrepreneur adventure video all about how the harsh reality is you cannot lie to yourself. And when you're spending six, seven, eight hours a day impaired with alcohol or drugs, you know you're not as good. And that carries over to all the rest of your waking hours. If you could possibly do anything to.
Break those addictions, do it good for man. Powerful. We're going to attitude mistake number two, which is bad beliefs. Talk to us a little bit about believing in yourself. Bad beliefs. What's your whole attitude towards what goes on in people's head and what they believe?
Whatever you believe is what you're going to achieve. It really comes down to that. And the real power of that is believing that you deserve what you want. Now, I discovered that when I was volunteering at a men's weekend seminar. You know, I met the shaman after I was a graduate of this men's weekend. I got introduced to the men's groups, and then I went back and I volunteered at the men's weekend. And here I was, I was, like, setting up tables and chairs and arranging the plates and forks and knives so that they were perfect. And I'm sitting there and I'm thinking to myself, what the heck am I doing volunteering at somebody else's seminar? I do my own seminars. I shouldn't be a cog in the wheel. I should be the leader of something like that. And I sat down with the newspaper and I opened up the sports section. I don't even. I'm not even a sports fan. I Just open up the sports section. I'm looking through it and I see an ad for a BMW X5. And that was my dream car. And here they had one. They were advertising for $498 a month you could own a 2 year old BMW X5. And at the time I was driving a 6 year old Jeep Grand Cherokee with 100,000 miles on it and I was paying $482 a month. Wow. And I realized I'm like, holy cow, I deserve that X5. I'm paying for an X5. And instead I, I got a six year old Jeep Grand Cherokee. What the heck am I doing? And I tell you what, Glenn, you know what I drove home in the very next day? That BMW X5.
Damn right. Wow.
Because I deserved it.
Yes.
And not only did I believe I deserved it, I knew I deserved it. I was paying for the BMW X5 and I was driving a Jeep Grand Cherokee.
Yeah.
Clear as day.
And I think the lesson for our gappers there is sometimes you got to stop and analyze. Right. What you're paying for and what you're getting. And that's how you shed the light. And the question for those who are listening right now is do you take the time to analyze your life? Do you take the time to analyze your business? Do you take the time to analyze your relationships? And do you take the time analyzing to analyze your customers and most importantly, your celebrity? We're going to go to the third biggest mistake that people make, and I call it the can't conundrum. The can't conundrum is simply those people who focus on what they can't be, can't do, and can't have, which means they're comparing themselves to others, not what they can be, what they can do, or they can have. Talk to me a little bit about that mindset of people that you work with that are focusing on all the wrong stuff, or just talk to me about the attitude of focus, what it's done for you.
Look, you came through celebrity launchpad. You know that in my little celebrity launchpad notebook that I give you, on every page it says, who am I? Yes, big problem. Who am I to think that I can do this? Who am I to think that I could do that? Who am I to think that I could be on the Today show like Clint? Or who am I to think that I could be a superstar like Glenn? Of course those guys could do it, but I could never do it.
Nice.
That is a problem that everybody has. Even Donald Trump has. Who am I. I remember three weeks after he got elected president, I was watching a show of him on TV at a ribbon cutting, and he goes, hey, guys, could you believe it? I'm the president. Even the President of the United States.
Unbelievable.
Who am I? It will never go away. And you gotta expect it, and you just gotta deal with it. And the way you deal with it is when you start hearing that voice that says, who are you to think that you could do this, that, or the other thing, you gotta say, oh, there's the who am I? And I'm just gonna put it aside and I'm just gonna keep moving forward. And you'll be amazed at what can happen in your life if you just keep moving forward.
I love it. We are with the one and only Clint Arthur, personal mentor to yours truly, Glenn Bill, at the Get Attitude Podcast Podcast. The host of the greatest show of all time on 77 WABC radio in New York City, and the celebrity entrepreneur founder. He is the best. Clint, we are going to go into what we call knowledge through the decades. I don't want to put you on the spot. As I say in every show, if you muff it up, we are a highly edited program and we'll make you look fantastic. But I know that you. I love it. Yeah, you speak from the heart. So, Clint, I don't know if you can remember when you were born, but some of our guests have the ability to. And I want to know the attitude lesson about birth.
I love it because I was watching a little baby the other day, and it jogged this memory for me. When you're born, you don't have any insecurities or doubts. You deserve what you want. And what you want, you demand it. And until you get what you want, you won't stop screaming. Yes, unfortunately, it's like that gets beat out of you, right? As soon as you're like a year, two years old, they make you stop crying. And I tell you what, that's what marketing is today. If you're an expert, an entrepreneur, any kind of an author, speaker, coach, you need to be getting attention. If you're not getting attention like now, luckily, we have much more sophisticated ways to get attention today.
Yes.
And it's not about crying, but it's achieving the same exact thing. Hey, look, I deserve your attention.
Yes. I like it. I deserve it. That's the attitude lesson from childbirth. Now, Clint, I don't know where you grew up or where you were born. I'd love to know before you answer this question, but hopefully you remember when you were 10 years old. I'm thinking it's third or fourth grade. I want you to put yourself back in that time and tell me the attitude lesson that you learned in third or fourth grade. I'd love you to tell me what school you're in. Who were your teacher, and what was the attitude lesson?
Sure, man. I grew up in New York City. Oh, Midtown Manhattan. I was living on 23rd street and 2nd Avenue. And I know exactly the attitude lesson. The attitude is what is important. And focus on that. And for me, the only thing that mattered in those days was Little League baseball.
Cool.
That's all that mattered, man. All I was interested in, the only thing I cared about was getting up to bat and hitting home runs. And I was the hitting home run star for the Lions and the Orioles. And I was a Little League baseball star. And that's all I cared about and all I focused on and all that mattered.
Bro, that is so cool. All right, two questions. Did you bat cleanup? Were you fourth or third?
Yeah, of course I was fourth.
You're fourth. You need to work. That's something we need to bring. You got a program in you about batting cleanup? I'm telling you, there's something. There's something we need to get. We need to work on that program. That could be really good. What position did you play on defense?
I was. I was shortstop.
Of course. That's where the best player is. Do you remember. Do you remember your coach from those teams? You remember his name? No, I don't know.
I really don't remember.
It's a long, long time ago. Well, that's great. But what is important and focus on it. And boy, I had a. I was on stage the other day and I said something, and I said, no matter how old I get, I'm never gonna let the kid inside of me die. And I think that's what you're talking about right there. You know what, Gappers? Don't let the kid inside of you die. Don't let the 10 year old baseball superstar die. Focus on what's important. You know what it is. You can feel it. And that's good. Now go ahead.
I agree. And there's another aspect to that, Glen, and that is that, hey, what you really wanted when you were a kid is probably what you still really want.
Wow. How good is that? Yeah.
Visit your inner deep inside.
Yeah.
Deep inside.
Yeah. That's been talked out of you and it's been stomped on and you don't deserve it. Which is our attitude lesson from when you were a baby now I bet things started getting fun for you. You're 20 years old. Did you. You probably were at the Wharton Business School. Tell me, do you remember your 20th birthday? Where were you? What is the attitude lesson when you turned 20? Wow.
I don't really remember my 20th birthday. Jesus. Oh, I do remember my 20th birthday.
Or your 21st. You might have remembered.
I remember my 20th birthday. I was working at Swiss Bank Corporation at number One World Trade Center.
Wow.
Wow, okay. And I was going for my. I was going for my big goal, man. I was a junior at the Wharton Business School, and I had my internship at the bank that I had been working for for years. And, man, I was all about being hardcore. I was the first one there every single morning, and I was the last one to leave in the afternoon. And I wore a suit and tie and took the subway to work every single day. And the attitude lesson of being 20 years old is that if you are dedicated and you have a dream and. And you pursue that dream, you can make anything happen in this day and age.
I love it. I love it. And Clint, you're still one of the few people that wear a suit and tie. That's why I honor you, because I'm a suit and tie guy. Except on the podcast, you know, I'm a little bit more informal. But the question is, not many 20 year olds had that work ethic, right? Why were you so driven, you think, at 20? What caused that?
I know exactly what caused that. Well, you know, when you were growing up, did your parents ever argue?
Yes.
Yeah, see, when I was growing up, it was like, when weren't they arguing?
Right?
And when I was in my early teens, I read about this guy who went to something called the Wharton Business School. And he was a fabulous, international, successful business tycoon. And I said to myself then, hey, maybe if I could become somebody special like that, maybe my parents will stop arguing. I thought in my adolescent mind, in my subconscious, that I could fix things by becoming more, by being more, doing more, having more. And I fixed on this thing of going to the best business school in the world and becoming somebody special. And at the best business school in the world, the thing to do was to go from Wharton and become an investment banker. And that's what led me to banking and all of that. And, you know, ironically, I graduate from Wharton the year after we're talking about, and I go home to get the atta boys. And what happens? My parents get into the biggest argument of all time, and my dad storms out of the house. And I turn to my mom and I say, you know, mom, the way he's been resenting you all these years. Have you been cheating on dad? I'm sitting on the couch in the living room where I grew up my whole life. I'm thinking, where the heck did that question come from? I never thought that before.
Wow.
And then I'm thinking, what kind of a rude son of a gun asked his mom a question like that? That's, like, the rudest thing I've ever heard.
Yeah.
And then I'm thinking, why aren't you answering the question?
Oh, shit. You're kidding me.
And then she goes, he's not your real father.
Oh, my God.
Your real father was a doctor at the fertility clinic we went to for six years. And you look just like that guy.
Oh, my God. You're kidding me.
Say what? Mama? And that rocked my life. Attitude shift changed my direction of my world. I decided I don't want to be an investment banker anymore. Next day, I call up the investment bank. Holy crap, they're on the 87th floor of number one World Trade Center. Talk about ground zero.
Yeah. Wow.
And I said, sir, I appreciate the offer, but I've decided I don't want to be an investment banker anymore. And what did I do? I ran off to Hollywood.
There you go. To be what? Famous.
I didn't know what I was going to be. I wanted to find myself. You know, most people. The irony is, most people go to Hollywood to lose themselves.
Right.
I went to Hollywood to find myself.
Right.
And I found myself becoming somebody special. All right. I became the Wharton Taxi Driver.
Yes.
Well.
And if I'm correct, you have a book, right. What they don't teach you at Wharton.
Business School, what they teach you at the Wharton Business School.
And it's a book. People can go to Clint Arthur.com, i'm sure. And buy that.
Yep.
Cool. All right, so, man, ground zero. Like, in more ways than one. For sure. Great. Great analogy. So you. You're out in Cali. I don't know if you remember your 30th birthday, but, boy, I bet you were fun when you were 30. What was the attitude lesson when you were 30?
When I was 30 years old, I was driving a taxi. Right?
Right.
I had a little baby, and I was about to get kicked out of the house by baby's mama. Wasn't much after I turned 30. And I tell you what, the attitude lesson that I learned is I remember how beaten down I was by Hollywood by that point. I had Been told your. You're worthless, you suck, you're. And I started repeating those same things. I remember we had moved into a house in the Hollywood Hills and I was paying for it by driving a taxi five nights a week and earning. I was earning more than a thousand a week driving a cab, and I was paying. That was a lot of money for me in those days. Ridiculous.
Yeah.
Could you imagine a thousand a week, Glenn? I mean, how suck is that?
You make a thousand a minute? Damn near right? I know he does. I'm not bullshitting you people, but yes, go ahead.
Yeah.
So what was that? Tough time? Yeah, tough time.
I remember we're like arranging things and my. My daughter's aunt came over to the house and she goes like, well, what are we doing over here? And I said, and that was my desk. My desk was right there. And I remember specifically saying, that's just my desk. That doesn't matter.
Wow.
That's where I was when I was 30 years old.
Attitude lesson. I don't matter, Right? Right.
And if you say you don't matter, believe me, nobody is gonna think that you matter. If you say that you are somebody special and you are demonstrating how you are somebody special, well, you're a lot closer to becoming somebody special. But man, whatever you say and believe about yourself is what the world is going to give you.
Right. And I think our gappers need to pause. Right. If you're listening to this, it's really important that you take an inventory. Like just like looking at that ad for that BMW. What are you? What are you? Who's communicating to you? What are they telling to you? And do you keep playing that record in your head? I mean, that's the attitude lesson. Be careful what you are putting in. And it's not junk in, junk out. It's junk in, junk stays. That's the issue.
As you know, we've got these repeating tape loops in our mind, these subconscious programming that goes on every day telling you that you are either great or you suck. One or the other. Right. And you can have control over that programming. I know I do. I work on that all the time.
I love it. So I have a feeling your breakout starts coming maybe when you're 40. I'm guessing you probably had an interesting 40th birthday. What was your attitude lesson? Is that when things started to change or. Tell me about the 40th attitude lesson.
This was fascinating because by the time I was 40, all I wanted was to be a regular person. I just wanted to have a normal life. I Just wanted like, I got to the point where on New Year's Eve of the millennium, I was 35 years old and I was so scared that I was never gonna be able to have just a normal, happy life.
Right.
And by the time I was 40, I had gotten out of taxi driving and I had gotten into the gourmet food business and I had started investing in real estate. I had already done a fixer and I had flipped it and made $100,000.
Awesome.
And I had already done a tear down and built it into a three bedroom house. And I was in the process of building a house that would ultimately be one of the biggest scores of my whole career. I sold it a couple years later in 2007 at the very peak of the real estate market. When I was 40 years old, my birthday party was at the Picasso restaurant, Bellagio.
Awesome.
Which is the top, top, top of the fricking world.
Okay.
And I was married to Ally. Nice, most amazing person in the world. Super successful, super beautiful and sexy and an earner and a smart person who, like, we've had the same agenda all the whole time. Our agenda has been us.
Awesome.
When I was with baby's mama, the agenda was what she wanted. Yeah, that's it. That was the agenda. I had nothing to do with anything. I was just the guy who was paying all the bills.
Right. Driving a cab, a necessary utility.
Yeah. For as long as she was willing to tolerate it. But once she started making money, I was no longer needed.
Right.
But by the time I was 40, I was doing what I look back now and I see was very brave thing. I was just trying to live a normal, happy life as a businessman, married, right. Being a constructive, productive citizen of the United States. But I had given up on my dreams. I was no longer a writer. I was no longer trying to be anything special. I was just trying to make money. And by that point at 40, that's when I started to gain weight. And now this, when I was 40, this was 2005. That's when I was 40. I was born in 1965. So by the age of 40, I was really starting to pack on weight. I remember my dad came to my birthday party and you know, I had 25 people for dinner at Picasso.
That's big. Not a cheap birthday dinner.
And then the next night, then the next day we did a brunch at the House of Blues for everybody. And then that night we did another party at the, at the top of Mandalay Bay. They have a room called the Foundation Room. Wow. And I had a blues concert at the Foundation Room.
You were still drinking then, I'm guessing.
Oh, I was drinking. I was smoking. I was. You know, I had a thriving butter business. My butter business was thriving. Making a lot of money. Picasso was my client.
Right there.
See, that's why I did the. The thing there. It was my butter on the table.
Sure. Yeah.
Still is today. Picasso with butter. Still today. Love it. And I remember my dad said to me, boy, you really let yourself go.
Oh.
I was. I. All I was doing was trying to be fat and happy.
Yeah.
And I got fat and happy, all right. I hit 236 pounds at my peak mercy.
Yeah.
Yeah. That's a big. I was obese, and I did not even realize that I was obese. Sure.
Wow. Unreal.
So, yeah, the attitude lesson is. The attitude lesson is. And ultimately, I think I became obese because, you know, yeah, I was making money, but ultimately, that's unfulfilling. Just making money is not enough. It's important to have money as a base. There's no doubt about it. But you can't just live for money.
Sure. Yeah. It's got to be more. Is that all there is? Right?
See, I'm. See, Glenn, you're a speaker. I'm not really a speaker. I'm a writer. Who speaks.
Yes. Yeah.
I speak because I know that that's the best way to get people to want to buy my books or to invest in my courses or to invest in my coaching or consulting. Being a speaker is very helpful for all of that, but really, I'm a writer.
You and Jeffrey Gittermer, he's the same way.
And I wasn't writing all this time. I was not writing. I'd given up writing.
You were feeding.
I said, that's it. I'm never gonna write again.
Right. And now, how many books have you written?
Oh, man.
Seven? Nine.
More than 30 books.
Oh, my gosh. Unbelievable. All right, well, I want to respect your time. You've turned 50. I mean, things are happening. Clint, that's probably when I met you on your 50th birthday, or damn near close to that. Give me the attitude. You know, who are you now? What's that? Attitude lesson at 50. And we'll wrap up this unbelievable Get Attitude podcast with the one and only Clint Arthur.
What I have learned, once I became successful as a businessman, that's when I heard the shaman. And he said three years later, he said, you don't know it yet, but you're already dead. And I thought to myself, what if he's right? What if I am already dead? I just don't know. What if this is going to be the last year of my life? What would I want to accomplish? And I've been living with that attitude ever since then. And that eliminated all the fear, procrastination, and doubt, and it had unleashed my ability to just go for it. Hey, look, I. I will win or I will lose or I will break even, but either way, I'm going to learn a lesson. And my philosophy is, I don't want to go to my grave without having tried and done everything that I've wanted to do. And if I win, great. And if I don't win, well, at least I'm going to learn that lesson. But I'm not going to hold back because I'm afraid. I love it anymore.
I love it. Clint, boy, what a gift. You've absolutely blown the look. You were hitting home runs when you were 10. You hit a home run today for us and for our gappers. You've given our gappers a lot to think about. You've helped people understand who they are and how to get to who they want to become. You've given us lessons on helping people analyze where they are to go to where they want to be by bridging the gap. And is there one last, one last thought? You'd like to give our gappers word of encouragement for the people that are out there doing their best tuning into this podcast to get attitude. Anything you'd just like to share with our listeners.
When I spoke at West Point with astronaut Buzz Aldrin on the same stage, I said, buzz, what's the most important thing you ever learned? He said, nothing is impossible. And I don't care where you're at today, you've heard my journey. You've heard how low I was, and you seen how high I am, and I'm going higher. And that's because nothing is impossible. And you can do it, too.
All right, well, Clint, we love you. You're an awesome guest. I look forward to networking and attending more of your stuff. Please go to ClintArthur.com to find out about our good friend. Please go to imm20.com if you want to join the incredible work, not workshop the event that Clint is putting on. And we're honored. I think our gaffers are fired up. We're going to bridge the gap. We just did it. Clint, God bless you so much. Thank you for all you give to our world. This podcast is a part of the C Suite Radio Network. For more top business podcasts, visit c Sweetradio. Com.
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