Ep46 - Sharon Phillips

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Sure am.

All right, that'll do it. That a girl. All right, well, I want to welcome everybody. Please remember to subscribe to this podcast. Please also rate it if you would be so kind. Only five stars, please. And we also would love your reviews. We are focusing on attitude booster number nine, Eat right and exercise. And boy, do we have a guest 31 years in the health and fitness business. If you are somebody that is looking to reignite your passion about your fitness, if you're somebody that is sitting there going, I need to lose weight. I need to make a change. I need to break through. I eat nothing but horrible foods. I need somebody to tell me what types of foods there are to eat. I need somebody that has a strategy, somebody that has a plan, somebody that has seen all the fads come and go. Our guest today. Our guest today is that person. If you are looking to bridge the gap from being £250 down to 170, our guest is going to help you do that. If you are looking to bridge the gap to get your cholesterol from 310 to 200, our guest will do that. Our guest today is Sharon Phillips. I met Sharon at Lifetime Fitness. I'm doing spinning for the first time and when she comes on, you're gonna just go, oh my God, I love this person. And I immediately walked up and I said, you gotta be my personal trainer. And so she was. And we've had a friendship since then. And Sharon was going through some personal challenges back then, which we're gonna hit on. But Sharon is here to talk to you about eating right and exercising and what that means. Certified health coach, lifestyle management coach, health and fitness expert for 31 years. Sharon Phillips, welcome to the Gap.

Thank you so much, Blaine. I'm absolutely privileged and excited to be here and I'm hoping that I can change some lives.

I know that you will. I know that you will. So guys, hang on, buckle up because you are getting ready to get, in my opinion, thousands of dollars of life changing advice over next 45 minutes. Now, you'll notice that Sharon has a little bit of an accent and she is from South Africa.

Yes, I am. I have been here in the US since 30 years. I've been here for 30 years. I think I've got a little bit of an Indiana Hoosier accent. You're a South African Hoosier hillbilly accent.

I like it. I like it. So when we talk about attitude, I'd love to know what's your definition of attitude? What does it mean to you? And I'd love to know just from when you grew up, like what was attitude? What did that mean in South Africa? Is it different? What did you learn about South Africa when it comes to attitude and how does it compare to the US So talk to us about where you came from and what attitude means to you.

Sure. So I think attitude is an international state of mind. I think a good attitude in South Africa is a good attitude in the US There isn't too much that you can distinguish between the two countries. For sure. South Africa does have a hard lifestyle. So I think it throws you into the gratitude mindset that you are grateful. And there are a lot of people that don't have a lot of everything in their life. So you just immediately go into this. Well, I do. And so I'm very grateful. So that has always been my whole life. My underlying attitude is gratitude. I think growing up I was always kind of the free spirit. I was the child in the family that would get up at 5 in the morning and go running into my parents room and jump on their bed and they're like, oh, she's awake. So I think I've always had a free spirit attitude and I've kept the attitude. I've had a couple of challenges in my life that have really renewed my sense of attitude and why you should have a good Attitude and be positive, because clearly, it gets you through the challenges. So I would say it's key, and you got to work at keeping that attitude. You got to filter out incoming headspace subjects that will occupy your headspace. So it takes a lot of. A lot of time and a lot of work to keep good attitudes just because of the outside world. But I believe it's key to success in anything you do, whether it's a diet plan or whether it's a relationship. Anything you do in life requires a.

Positive attitude, and especially the attitude to eat right and exercise, which we're going to delve into. But I want to, first of all, try to understand a little bit more, because I believe everybody has attitude coaches, and our first attitude coaches are usually our parents. So talk to me about your parents or the person, as a young person that influenced your attitude the most, and what did they teach you?

Okay, well, definitely my dad. He was a businessman. He was very driven, and at the time, we all thought, wow, he's intense. But over the years, I've really grown, and I've kind of determined that he made me who I am today. My soul was created by him. Unfortunately, he passed away at a young age. So I think after I lost him, then I really, really reflected on what he taught me. And so he was very positive. He was very driven. He was a very, very popular man. He was a CEO of a business, and there wasn't a person that wasn't fond of him. And he just. His personality and his. His attitude was everything. And so I kind of see myself taking the same attitude that he had. So definitely my dad, for sure, but also my mom, too. I would never leave my mom. She's been the trooper, too. So, you know, she was so cute with my dad and I, we had the big personalities. And sometimes she would say, you know, shan, not everyone likes an obnoxious personality. And then, you know, you'd have to reel back a little bit. But we were definitely two peas in a pod. So I was. I felt like. I think that was also one of the things in my life that made me realize, wow, you know, your time on earth is short, and you got to make every single second count, because I think his death was so sudden. He just had a massive heart attack, and he was here one day and gone the next. And so it's like, wow, you really don't have a lot of time. And it's about waking up every day. Like it. You're lost.

Yeah. And so when you talk about young men dying from Massive heart attacks. My guess is there were some lifestyle choices that affected that or might have caused it. Could have been hereditary. How old were you when your father passed?

Well, he was 57 and I was in my early 20s.

Wow.

And he. So yeah, it does contribute lifestyle and the general state of your health. His unfortunately was hereditary. I see both his parents also pass away from heart attacks. And so I think another reason why I'm so passionate about health because if there's something that I can do to prevent it. You can't always prevent disease, but you can go into pretty strong so that if it does, if you are faced with any diagnosis or anything like that, your body's strong to fight it.

Now, Sharon and I are the same age and I know that you know me and you, we are. Well, we're close. My guess is we're close because we're going to talk about things. You know. Sharon, I'm older than you. Are you older than me?

I didn't know.

Are you older than. No, you're not older than 50?

I'm going to 50.

You're going to be 50. I was at your 40th birthday party.

I think I'm actually 47, so I'm nearly there. I don't want to wish my life away, but it's creeping up.

Yeah, I know it's fast. I'm 52, so I know. But one of the things that I've been seeing is the people I hang around, the people I social media with. I've been seeing this increasing post by daughters who lost their fathers and how hard it is and how difficult it is. And my guess is that many of our gappers who are females who have lost their fathers already know this. But some may be going through it, some may be having. How did you. I want to know what was your mindset to get through that time and what advice can you give those people that maybe haven't lost their dad, just lost them or whatever, what would you tell them?

So I think prior to my dad's losing my dad, I went through I. My second born child, he was diagnosed with autism, severe autism. And so I think I'd really gone through that struggle and I think that was a huge point in my life where I realized about attitude that to go forward with a diagnosis like autism, he was severe. We thought he was deaf for a while and then he passed all the tests and we found out he had severe autism. So I think they told me that you would grieve just about as bad as losing somebody. And I Wouldn't say it was as bad because I had lost. And I went on to lose somebody. And so it wasn't as bad, but it was a hard time. It was brutal. Just realizing that your child will not be the person that you thought he would be. That was at the time of the diagnosis. And then as I've gotten older, I've realized I wouldn't have him any other way. You know, at the time, it's like, oh, my gosh, like, how? Why me? You get that attitude, that victim attitude. And then I realized that I had to. I had to tackle autism face on, and I had to be strong and I had to decide it was either go forward or go back and drown.

And so many people know people who have children with autism. What? And so, yeah, like, I'm sitting there going, jason, maybe we should have had her on Love, adversity, right? But that's why I had you here, because gappers. I'm just telling you that Sharon is somebody that has had a lot of life experience in the 47 years. And some of those tough times you fought through and you're so positive and you look fantastic. And no matter what you are going through, Right. You are an example that, you know what, hopefully you'll watch this and go, man, she's been through a lot of stuff, but, boy, she's overcome it. What can people say to parents to make things easier on them? Or when they see a kid with autism with their mom or dad? What are the things that people have said to you that have really boosted your attitude? Where you went, that is so kind. That is so nice. Has there been anybody that's just come out of the blue and done something really awesome for you and Chase? It's not Chase, it's Ash.

Yes. Yeah, I get a lot of that. Early days in his diagnosis, when he was, he displayed a lot of inappropriate behavior. Everywhere we went, he screamed. He didn't sleep for about the first six years of his life. So sleep deprivation, his psychiatrist said to me, prolonged sleep deprivation becomes a mild form of schizophrenia. And boy, do I understand that. There were times where I would be up all night and then I'd have to get up for work at 5am and train people like Laneville.

That's not easy.

So, yes, I have over the years. People always do that now because you can tell that to the general public. You can tell there's something wrong with him. He hums, he's very loud, he screams, he touches people. And so he's. You can tell. And now a Lot of people come up to me and say, man, you look like a really special mom. And a lot like when I'm traveling now, and I travel with him all the time now, and so people always wanted to help me. So a lot of people have come around.

So that matters.

It matters. It does. Because, you know, when autism was still new to everyone. He's 21 now, and he was. He was 2 when he was diagnosed. He would be having tantrums in the grocery and all over, and people would come up to me and say, my child will never behave like that. And so those were tough times, but I grew, and I think more so it was more the acceptance of autism. I lost that chip on my shoulder that, wow, why me? Why does everyone else around me have normal kids? I hate to say normal, because that's kind of not a political Clearet word. What is normal anymore? Right. So as I grew into autism, I got stronger and I could deal with it more. Getting back to the lifestyle management part of it, I found that if I was strong and fit and healthy, I could take it on. And I think that was key in every situation, from the autism diagnosis to losing my dad and then going through a bad divorce. At every point, I would go through the bad time, and then I would think to myself, why am I not doing what I tell everybody else to do? You know, why am I not? And then as soon as I flipped the gears, I got back on track. So lifestyle management is key to handle adversity and handle struggles. I think it just strong mind, strong body, you can. You can take on the world.

Yeah, for sure. I love that. And so if you are sitting in your car, as I always say, or walking on the beach and life isn't good, and you're battling a challenge, and you all know, you people that are listening, that you're battling a challenge, how do you expect to conquer that challenge in a manner that is brief and quick and final if you're not in the best shape of your life? Right. I mean, it's just. How do you. How do people think that?

Yeah, and it's. It's a lot, because over the years that I've been coaching, it's, you know, I can say to people, you know, you can. You can do this, you can do that, but you really have to get deep down in someone's head, and it starts within, and it starts with belief, with yourself. And that was one of my. After my divorce, I was. Before my divorce, I was running strong. I was running my fastest marathon. I was Running Boston. And as soon as I went through my divorce, I lost all sense of belief in myself.

Wow.

And I real. I just lost it all. And then I started losing in my competitive sports because I didn't believe in myself. I had the tools. I had everything I needed, but my heart wasn't in the game. And so I think people have to just realize, go back into that mindset of gratitude, look at the situation and say, okay, well, I'm going through a divorce. I've lost somebody, but I haven't lost everything. I've got my kids, and I've got my health, and those are two key players that will make me get back on track and realize that no one has the right to tell you you're not enough. You decide that you are enough. And when you go through these issues in life or these problems, you get into that mode of, oh, what did I do? Or why did I get to this point? You can't ask those questions. There's no time for those kind of questions. You've got to just get back on track and say, okay, I am enough. And I believe that I have what it takes, and everyone else needs me to be strong. If there's kids involved in a divorce, you've just got to. You got to stay strong, and you just got to get back up. You know, I. When I went through my divorce, I was. I cried for about four months every day, and I was thinking to myself, again, why am I not doing. Why am I not exercising? Why am I not eating right? And something just flipped, and I said, I'm done. I'm done. I'm getting back on it. And as soon as I made all those healthy choices and got back on track, life changed for sure.

You got sick and tired of being sick and tired.

Yes, absolutely. Absolutely. And it was that mindset of that victim. As soon as you become a victim of something, you're not going to get through it. You have to reflect and see what you do have in your life. And, I mean, we. My two boys and I, we didn't have anything. And that's okay.

Right.

What I did realize out of a divorce is what? You know what? You don't need anything.

Right.

Don't. You don't need anything. It's just stuff.

Right?

It's just stuff. And if you have your health, you're the wealthiest person on the planet.

Sure. And then I always used to sit there because I was with you during this time.

Yes.

And I was like, holy God. And I always said. I think I said this to you. God is putting you through this because he's. You're going to have an angel. I said, sharon, trust me, there are going to be men lining up going, she's available. So tell me about your white knight, your prince charming and how that's gone because right. This ended up, I mean, without going through that. Yes, I mean this. And I don't know Jack, but I've seen him and I follow him and I follow you guys and I just see how happy you are. Tell me about Jack and this new guy and what he's taught you about attitude.

So when I met Jack, you know, as you go through these times, these hard times and then you come out of it and then something great happens, you're like, oh my gosh, this is how it was supposed to be, right? And all the sorrow and the sadness that you felt goes away and you're like, oh my goodness, this is who I was supposed to be with. So over the years after my divorce, I met Jack and we realized that we were soulmates. We love everything about each other. We love to do everything together. And I didn't realize that I would find someone like that. And so I did. He has an unbelievable personality. His attitude is wonderful. He's a successful man and it's not only in his job, he's just a successful man with everything in his life. I don't base success on financials at all. He's just very wealthy in a lot of things that he has and it's been awesome. And there's so many people out there that will find who they supposed to be with. So don't give up. Just remember that you are enough and you have just as much as everybody else.

My sister had a special needs child. This is why. And the thing I love about that, I see Jack and again, hopefully I'll get to meet him someday. I see how much he loves Ash, he does. And I see how they interact together. And so my brother in law, my sister had a special needs kid and went through a divorce and met this incredible man who loved her special needs. She since passed, she was my goddaughter. But to get that gift and to have somebody that takes the whole you and everything that's going on, it's just such a blessing.

I think it's his attitude too. He doesn't shy away from hard times and so he tackles it face on and so he just embraced Ash and they actually they like, they're pretty good buddies now. They go camping by themselves. And so yeah, it's great and we have five kids. We blended with five kids now, and we've gone through hard times. My step kids lost their mom, and I was really, really close to her, and I helped take care of her.

For the last, very tough.

The last six months of her life. And I think looking at the big picture, I always try and look at the big picture of every situation. And it really wasn't just coming down to me finding my knight in shining armor.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It was more that I was given a task to do, and that was to take care of his kids, Nick, Nates, and Jenna. And they. I love them with all my heart. I think my goal, I promised their mom that I would keep her in their hearts forever, and we're doing a great job with that.

And what's her name? We may as well put her on the podcast.

Tony.

All right. Tony in heaven, God bless you.

Yes. So everything happens for a reason. At the time. You may not think it's what should happen, but it does. And so there was more to. Than me just finding my soulmate to run off into the sunset with. I was given. I was given a special job to take care of the kids.

And I think, again, this is why you were brought here. It's like, it's amazing what you find out from our guests. And we have, I think, some of the most incredible talent that comes into this studio that has an unreal story. And when people are looking to bridge the gap from who they are to who they want to be, where they are to where they want to go, you have done that, you've bridged the gap. But it almost sounds like there was a real calling, there was a predisposition of what you were supposed to do.

Right. And I think with anything with the autism diagnosis, too. I ended up being on the board of the Autism Society, and I was talking to people who had just had a newly diagnosed child, and it was my job to tell them that it's not a death sentence, you will get.

Through it, and to take action.

Right, right, right, right. And like I said in the beginning, I just wanted a cure. And I don't want to cure anymore. I just want acceptance. I want people to accept. Accept people with disabilities because they are definitely a forgotten about community, which is sad.

And there's so much they teach us so much. There's so much to learn.

They do.

They make our society, in my opinion, more gentle.

Absolutely.

More loving. I took Jesse to her.

Her.

I may have told this before. To her prom.

Yeah.

And when you go to a prom with all special needs kids. Nobody cares about the Cursas, nobody cares about the dress, nobody cares about who's with who. They all dance together. And it was like seeing a prom of a special needs. A special needs prom. I was like, oh, my God, who would want to be a quote unquote, normal kid?

Right? Right. Well, that's one of the reasons why that fitness competition is. I wanted to. Because I donate to Ashton's. He goes to a daycare, and it's a little daycare at 50 at Kessler in Keystone. And there are about 30 or 40 people that go there.

Joy's house.

It is Hollis Adams.

Hollis Adams. Okay, very good.

And Ashton absolutely loves it. And they just do community work. It's not. They don't do jobs or anything. It's just community work. And everyone there is just fantastic. And every single time I leave after I've dropped him off, I feel uplifted.

Yeah. How do you not?

Wow.

Wow. You know, I'm part of me. I'm thinking how grateful I am that I'm not in a wheelchair.

Yes.

So I leave thinking, wow, I think I need to go run because I can. You know, there's some things in life. Why do you do that? Because I can.

Right.

And that's what I tell.

And that's called what?

Hollis Adams.

Hollis Adams. So if you're listening to this, we want you to look up Hollis Adams.

Adams.

We want you to go give them money. We want you to.

So if I win this, I'm giving that money to Hollis Adams because they need it, and it's magical.

Now, when this airs, she'll have already won or lost, but I'm going to try to put a link out. But Sharon is on this. It's called Ms. Health and Fitness. I hope she's the champ. I want you to look it up. I want you to look up what she's doing, and I'd like you to look at Hollis Adams. And if you feel so inclined, all my Gappers. Wouldn't it be great if we could have anybody that is listening to this, send them 10, 50 bucks and then 500, and then just put in your memo, care of Sharon Crowder, and maybe we'll raise $500 for them with the people that listen. How cool would that be? Now, one thing that you've developed, which I think is really cool, which I think has to do with Eat Right and exercise, is this acronym called the Red Zone. And it stands for rest, Exercise and Diet. And I know that Roche Diagnostics has taken this on and I know that it's. And I have a lot of friends at Roche and they all know it. And I think it's great to give formulas to people to help themselves with this thing called eat right and exercise. So let's just walk through red and the red zone and what that means. And I want you to talk to our gappers and our listeners about this thing called let's start with rest. Let's talk about rest. I want you to ask them questions. What do you say to our people that you know what, need rest because nobody's getting it anymore, right?

So just getting back to where I came up with the red zone all these years, what I found in coaching people and lifestyle management, whatever you prescribe because everyone's different. So you'll prescribe something different to everybody, depending if they're an athlete, if they have pre existing conditions of health issues, or if they're just a general population person. Everything what works for one doesn't always work for everyone. So you have to customize the individual's plan with the red zone. It's basic. It's very basic. As soon as it gets complicated, you set people up for failure. They don't want to overthink anything. So with the red zone, rest. Exercise. Exercise and diet. Like I said to you earlier, I'm not too fan about, I'm not too, not such a fan over the diet.

We're gonna find a new word.

We're gonna find a new word. They say diet. You know, it's like people say, I'm gonna stop my diet on Monday. The chances of them eating double calories on the Monday are pretty high. And it's a mindset. It's like, start now, start now rather than Monday because you always set yourself up for failure. So getting back to the red zone.

Let'S start with rest.

Rest. So most important, it's a secret weapon. People underestimate the value of sleep. So many issues can arise from lack of sleep, hormonal issues, and that's when your body, that's when your body repairs and builds. So you need. I always recommend eight hours. And people challenge me all the time. They said, oh, I do six hours and I do that well. Okay, well, you do what you need to do. But I'm saying as your coach that eight hours is the amount you should sleep. So people don't only they just think that rest is sleep, but it goes far beyond that. I highly recommend meditation. You need to shut down and you need to be still. I meditate every day for 20 minutes, it's key. You need to cut out all the monkeys in your head jumping around.

Yes. So let's just very quickly give me a 32nd course. People, like meditate, they sit there and they go home. I don't know what's just two or three quick points for the people that have never meditated. What would you tell them to do right now?

Right now? So there are a lot of apps, there's tons of apps now that you can download. And some of the meditations are three minutes, some are five minutes, some are 20 minutes. I like a longer one. But if you've never done it before, because you really have to teach yourself how to relax and kind of disconnect. So 20 is good for me. But I've been trying to teach my husband to meditate and I like Deepak, Deepak Chopra, he's fantastic. Why I like him is because he will talk a little bit before and get your mindset in a great state and he'll give you a few pointers of what you should be thinking about. So that occupies your headspace with, okay, I'm going to be thinking about this and you're not just sitting there going.

You know, and so, so in other words, so the first thing you should do is Google meditation apps. Pick an app and go.

Yes, pick an app and go and choose what works for you. But it was quite funny because my husband is so busy all the time. And so he did it. And I said, okay, now this is what you have to do. You got to just find some way to. You can sit up or you can lie down, be still, listen, and then he will give you the opportunity to meditate.

And.

And so he fast forwarded the course.

He did.

I was like, that does not work. You have to. And he did not have time to listen. And I was like, oh, bro, all.

You men out there that are listening to.

So you've got to give yourself some time to get good at it.

Schedule it.

Yeah, start with two minutes and just have just stillness and then you start coaching. And I highly recommend it. I probably, I'm probably guessing that you are not the guy that meditates.

No.

But yes, you need to do it. You need some quiet time.

So what do you say to people that go, I can't sleep. I can never sleep. There's no way I can sleep for eight hours. My mind's too much. What is the best thing you can do to help people sleep more? And then I always was taught this, if you're at least in bed Resting, really resting. You're getting 80% of your sleep anyway, so don't worry about it. And then when I started not obsessing and stressing that I wasn't sleeping enough, I actually would fall asleep.

Yeah.

So what are some one or two quick tips on how to help people fall asleep, how to get the best rest ever and all that?

Well, I think definitely, I would say first of all, I look at someone's diet, you know, if they drinking caffeine or if they're drinking caffeine all day. A lot of times, once you have a certain amount of caffeine, if you have an overload, then it doesn't have any effect on your body. But if you, like, have a cup of coffee in the morning and in the afternoon, maybe that's too late. So I would assess the diet first because that's key. And then you just look into a lot of other different things. Is it the hormones going back to those hormones, those dreaded hormones? So it could be hormones, but then maybe it's the social media. It's the digital, which I recommend. I was going to get to the digital detox after meditation. Shut it down. Shut it down. Everyone is. I don't know if it's just amplified in my house because I've got a bunch of teenagers. Kids.

It's not.

But they are on their phones all the time and they're taking photos of themselves all the time. Like, one of my kids took a photo of his eye and I'm like, okay, okay, enlighten me. Who did you just send your eye to? Like, who is looking at. Who wants to see your eye?

Right.

So I think it's. It's shutting that down.

It's love that.

A cooler temperature in your room. And literally, I would say cut out the screen time. Two hours before bed so that you can shut your mind down to get.

Prepared if you want to bridge the gap from where you are to where you want to be and you can't sleep. Those are three really good points. Let's go to exercise.

Exercise.

Tell us about number one. Right. I just don't feel like it. I can't bring myself to do it. It's too painful. I have a million excuses. How do you smash through that?

Hear that all the time?

Of course you do.

Everyone says I don't have time. I'm like, you don't have time? We all have the same amount of hours in the day. I don't buy that you don't have time. So I think.

Matt de La Cruz always Used to say this, he would be like, oh, I just can't find the time. He's like, well, shit, it's not. You can't find the time. You can't find the gym buddy. Get in there.

Yeah, so it's definitely over the years I've really come to realize that everyone overthinks it and they think, oh my gosh, I've got to be in the gym two hours. I've got to do weights and I've got to, you know, people always say to me, well, I'm not an iron man like you. You don't have to be an ironman. You don't have to be an ironman for you to have two days a week exercising. You'll have psychological benefits so you'll feel better about yourself. Three days you'll see a slight improvement, but five days you'll see results. So it depends on what you're after. So my philosophy is move every day. Move every day for 30 minutes. Whether it's a run at a six minute pace or whether it's a walk at a 30 minute pace. Just do something, do something to get your body going. So like I said, two days a week. Don't underestimate two days a week. If your life is really, really busy, then do two days a week. Or if you're the type of person that's getting into an exercise program, two days is sufficient. It's more than you were doing. And so start with baby steps. You know, I always say Rome was involved in a day, but that's because I wasn't on the job. Right, right, exactly.

True. No doubt about that.

No, I'm kidding.

You would have done it.

So I say to them, start with two days a week. Two days a week, go out for 20 minutes and walk and you'll feel better. And then the next day you won't exercise and the next day you'll be excited to get going again. So many people say, I'm going to sign up and I'm going to go to the gym every day. And they come in and they go all out and I don't see them back for about five days because they can't walk. And so it's like people, it's not rocket science. Take baby steps. There's nothing to prove to anyone. Take it slow. Take, you know, build up two to three days a week. Just take it slow.

I love that. And so think about this. If you moved twice a week, what would it do for you? If you're somebody that says, you know, What I can move for 20 minutes two days a week. Simply I want you to commit to a 20 minute walk two days a week. Hit us up at the university of attitude. Say I listen to Sharon and at a minimum and you could do it for 30 days. Don't even, don't amplify, don't try to do it more.

And I think also what's on going key to is knowing. I like to speak about belief and then I like to speak about the why. And I like, I've over the years, you know, for years I was that extremist. I had to be the fastest, I had to be the leanest, I had to be everything. Now I'm getting old and it's like, you know what? I'm okay with not being the fastest anymore.

And you've got, you're becoming the smartest.

You've got to realize that what you're doing it for. Why are we doing this? You know, people come to me and they say, I want to lose £20 for a reunion or I want to lose £20 for this. I'm going to a wedding. And I'm like, why, why wouldn't you do it for health? Why wouldn't you do it for longevity? Why do you have to have something like that to lose 20 pounds? Like first of all I'm an aggressive coach. So I know I can tell you you need to lose £30. It's aggressive. But you know what? I'm passionate about changing a life and I know the formula. So I'm, I'm out there, you know, don't waste my time and your money because I'm here to get your results. So follow my formula and I'll help you. I'll hold your hand the whole way. But you've got to figure out why you're doing it. And to be In a size 0 jeans is not the reason. We get fit, we get strong. For like we spoke about earlier, if you are faced with a disease with a diagnosis, we can be really, really healthy. But sometimes we can't always dodge it. So you can be perfect and like we said genetics and hereditary and it could happen. But we work really hard to be in the best shape and the best state we can so that if we are faced with some kind of diagnosis, we can beat it. We're strong to beat it because everyone doesn't, they don't value their health until they get a diagnosis, they don't value their health. So in the time why I went to, I was an extremist. I've realized that chasing intention is better than perfection. You know, if we have an intention, it's easier than chasing the perfection part of it.

That is deep and awesome.

It is.

Chase your intention.

It's got to be intentional.

Chase the pounds. Chase the intention.

Why are we doing it? What do we want out of it? We want to live longer. We want to be. We want to feel, you know, like a lot of people will say to me they want to lose 50 pounds. And I'm like, okay, why 50 pounds, right? And I'll say to them, why don't we get you to a point where you feel like a million bucks? And that could be £20. And if it's £20, then we've done our work well.

And let's be honest, if they lost three pounds, they're going to feel like a million bucks. And then you have momentum, right?

And I've seen it with my son. He lost 10 pounds. He's lost 140 in total, and he lost 10 pounds. And he was like, oh, my gosh, my jeans are loose. My jeans are loose. Now he's stud muffin. Yeah.

Got chicks all over.

And, you know, it's just making the decision to commit. I had a story with my sister. She went for an annual physical, it was about six months ago, and she was diagnosed pre diabetic. And she called me up after the doctor, and she's like, oh, Shannon, I'm pre diabetic. And I said, okay, so here's the deal. You can either decide to commit to yourself, or you can forget what the doctor said and be like everybody else. However many I've got down here, 34 million people with diabetes in the US and you can start taking a pill and you can feel horrible and you can cut your life short. So you either commit and say, okay, you know what? I'm worth more than living with some kind of disease that I could potentially control, and I want to see my kids get married. And so I said, you need to decide. And she's like, game on, sister. She gave it up. She changed her diet. She's down 40 pounds, and she feels fantastic. She has no diabetes, no pre diabetic, and she's riding her Peloton every day, and she's loving it.

Peloton killer, killer, killer. People are going crazy.

I know.

So you recommend peloton?

Oh, my gosh. Fantastic.

Just because it's accountability and, you know, you're not going to get healthy and you're not going to lose weight by taking pills from the Internet and Facebook Ads. Correct.

No. No.

So lower your stress.

Do not.

This is your rest. Get rid of your screen time. None of that shit works. No, it doesn't. It doesn't work like being with you. Now, if you guys want to follow Sharon, she is on instagram @sharon lphillips and she's on Facebook at Sharon Phillips. I know you're almost full of friends, but if you're listening to this, if she's making sense, if you're feeling her, if you're feeling like you're changing inside, if you're feeling like I can download an app and do two minutes of meditation a day. I can walk 20 minutes a day, twice a week. Trust me, that is going to be your first step on the bridge. Your first step on your bridge. To bridge the gap for your health and your wellness.

Reach out to me. Send me a message. I would love to connect.

She loves it.

I would love to connect. And I can help with anything that I can to get you. Because sometimes it's just a few key pointers to get in the right direction. Whether it's sending me, you know, like when I. When you train people, it's not just about the hour with them. It's the lifestyle. It's like, what are you doing today? What are you doing tomorrow? What are you eating? And so I'd be happy to connect with anyone and give you free advice on.

I would come in and I'd go, I had seven beers and a big cheeseburger.

Yeah. And then I was like, you are a hopeless cause.

Empty calories. Empty calories.

Empty calories and liquid bread. Everyone that drinks beer is liquid bread. It's like, girl. But getting back to the extremist. I've matured and I am promoting an 85.15 ratio of lifestyle management. 85. Clean. Because I do believe that life is short. And eat the cake. If you want to eat the cake, eat the cake. But don't eat the cake every day.

Yes.

Right.

Just 15.

Yes. Because I love my husband and I's favorite thing to do. We collect bourbon. Bourbon and chocolate.

I have a bourbon bar at home.

You do?

I'll have to bring you guys over.

Oh, my gosh. What's your favorite?

Well, I like Harper's is what it's called, which you probably never.

I've never heard of that.

Yeah. IW Harper's. It comes in a beautiful bottle.

Okay.

And it's amazing. And then the other bourbons, Blanton's, of course. You like? Yes.

It's hard to get. Yeah.

But the One. Oh, gosh, I can't remember it. It's like Grassy Creek or it's not Knob Creek, it's a grassy branch or it's Branch Creek or something.

Something like that.

So I do a lot of bourbon tastings. A lot of competition.

Have you done the Bourbon Trail? No, but yes, we did that a couple years ago.

Did you love.

Yes. That was awesome. That was fun.

Was there plenty of exercise going on with that?

No, no, no, no. That was in the 15%, right? Yeah.

Right. I got you. I'm down. And 15%, when you think about it, is one day out of seven.

Right. And so I normally do, when you're in your routine, do the 85 where you are in a set routine. You know, you can eat well and you can and you're working or you're weak. And then on the weekend allow yourself.

So I want you to brag, just real quick, what's the craziest freaking physical feat you ever made happen for you? Do you remember, like, was it a real triathlon or did you run a hundred miles in a day? You had to done something just whack.

So I think the hardest I did was the Leadville 100. It is a hundred mile mountain bike ride in Colorado. You start at 6,800 and you climbed to 10,000ft. So that about killed me, I've got to say. And then the next one, we did a marathon over the Imogene Pass. You go from Telluride to Ouray. That about killed me too. So my husband and I, we always try and do something epic every year. And so the very next year we did Louisville Ironman. I said, I am choosing it. It's not going to be over a mountain. It's not going to be altitude. And so we did Iron Man. So we try and do something epic every year. We've kind of slowed down a little bit just because of his work travel and we've had so much going on, but it's just different stuff. And I think that's also key in an exercise program is picking something you love. And if you can have the ability to change it up, change it up. Because anything you do for a long, long time gets old and boring. So change it up.

Tell me. Because this happens. Yeah, your 30 minute workout session or you're on that 20 minute walk and it's 10 minutes into it and everybody that's listening, you have your different stuff and it all happens to us. Then you start saying shit like this, you know what, I could just cut it off a Little early because I'm tired. How, what, what's the training? What, what, what do you, what do you need to tell yourself when you're looking at the clock, looking at the digital readout and going, I could maybe cut it short.

Yeah. And there's times that you do do that and, and even athletes do that. They, they're not as on the game as they usually are and they cut it short. So there's some days where I wake up and I feel like I haven't had the best sleep or my heart rate's running a little higher and I was planning to do an hour ride and I end up doing a 30 minute walk.

And so you're saying it's okay.

It's okay because you set yourself up for failure. If you now don't cut your walks every. You mustn't cut it short every day. Now, Blaine, I'm not giving you that. But now and again, if you do have stuff going on in your life, maybe you've got stress, maybe you didn't sleep, maybe a lot of factors that influence be kind to yourself. And as long as it doesn't happen every day, just move on from it. If you didn't do your hour ride and you did a 30 minute, don't think about it again. Just enjoy the walk and be done.

We're gonna get to D in the red zone. But you sent me this beautiful thing because Sharon's 47 and she is like, nobody freaking talks about menopause as she says it in her South. So she sent me. So for all you.

That was the worst South African accent I've ever.

Well, she's South African, Indiana hillbilly.

Jason.

She's. She's menopause, so she. So I'm going to read this. I think this is so funny. And we giggled about this, but.

Very true. So if there are other ladies that are on the exercise that are going through menopause and need some help and advice just to discuss things, shoot me a message. I'll talk you off the ledge, man. I was on the ledge with it. I went to the doctor and I had a bunch of tests run and everything came back fine. And he told me I needed a counselor. And I was like, no, no, no, no, no, pal, you don't understand. I have got a perfect life. I have no stress, everything's great. There is something going on in my body that's attacking me. This is not right.

And so what ended up happening is you got sprinkled with menopause fairy dust and this Comes from Menno Health, which is cool. And it says, I'll read it. At first, she, the fairy steals your figure.

Yes.

Then she steals your sleep. Next, your mood, your patience, your eyesight. And finally, she eats your brain.

Yes.

All she leaves with you is a lousy mustache, a muffin top, hot flashes, itchy skin, and 10 million different moods. A dodgy memory and an endless need for naps, coffee, wine, and carbs.

Yes. And that's exactly what happened to me. So again, in my life, I had to decide I was either going to embrace this or fall in a heap and die.

Yes.

And I embraced it. So I got help. And I. Because, I mean, talk about stealing your brain. Brain fog like I've never had in my life. I'd go to the grocery, and I'm like, why am I here? And I'm like, oh, good grief. And so then I started talking to people in my classes. Because when I was teaching a lot, I would see between anywhere between 80 and 150 people a day in all my classes. And so I would just talk to all the ladies. I had a lot of ladies that followed me, and I would say, oh, my gosh. And they're like, you as well. Oh, my gosh. And then I started realizing that this was a problem. Women in our age group all dealt with that. And I'm like, that's it. I'm going. I'm going. I'm hitting the road, and I'm going to talk about menopause. Because everyone thinks they. There's something going on with them, and then they get told they need a counselor. Meanwhile, their body is just changing. So you overcome it. I did seek help, and not from that one doctor that told me I needed a counselor.

Yes.

Never going back to him. Are you kidding me?

So on the exercise and eat right phase, how can those two things help a woman through menopause?

So eat right.

What do you recommend?

What I learned, which is a huge thing, is that my hormones off, and I was really, really high in estrogen. And anytime I took in alcohol, anytime I took in caffeine and I took in food with toxicity, my body was fighting to get rid of all that.

Meaning sugar?

Yeah, sugar. And all of the above. My body was fighting to discard that before my estrogen level. My estrogen. And so I was in a perpetual state of really bad estrogen levels because so the minute I cleaned up my diet and said, okay, I'm gonna start eating this and not that.

Well, what was this? What is this? So our people know alcohol I mean.

No, you said I'm start eating it, so I'll get to. I have a whole bunch of rules for that will come in.

Diet on D. Yeah, in D. Yeah. Well then let's jump into it.

Let's jump to it.

Okay, so D. So we're in the red zone. We rest next, which we said get your app, exercise 20 minutes. Let's talk about D. Give us some D stuff.

So I think D is as is most important. I think it's more important than anything else that we've spoken about rest and exercise. I think that over the years there's billions of dollars, the global amount of money that people are spending on health and wellness and self care. It's just skyrocketing. And I think the world is getting more unhealthy every day and they're getting bigger. And the state of health is so different to years ago. And like we spoke, is it food driven? Yes, it's got to be food driven. And so what was the size? And that's a huge thing. Like we spoke before, it's. You go to the grocery and you see an apple that's the size of your head. And so I tell people that is not the apple you should be eating because that is absolutely being modified. So it's the modification of the food. They're changing the science behind the food and they wanting bigger and better and bigger and better is not better.

And it sticks in your body.

Yes. And so like the chicken brace.

The chicken brace, I love them.

Yeah, you don't want to eat those, Glenn, you need to choose the baby chickens. Okay. And the farm raised and anything that.

What about eggs?

Cage. Cage free.

Cage free?

Yes. The other stuff, because if you've seen some of the egg, the chicken farms, all the chickens are all in together and they all like can barely stand up and yeah, you want more natural. So getting into my five rules, let's talk about this. Like I said, over the years I've determined these rules because I've seen there's so many different people. Some like to count calories, some don't. Some like to count grams of protein, some don't like to count anything. And my takeaway over the 30 years is the five rules are if the first ingredient is high fructose corn syrup, stay away from that. That is not sugar. That is man made sugar. And you will look on the ingredients. If it's the first ingredient, do not put that in your mouth.

I love it.

Two, number two. If it has artificial sweetener in it, do not Eat it. Okay. Do not eat the foods that are artificially sweetened. The aspartame do more harm for your body. Well, on the same level as the sugars.

And this all creates weight gain.

Absolutely. And bad health. Not any weight gain. It's about lifestyle management. It's about good health. It's wellness. It goes far beyond. If you get yourself aligned in a wellness program, the weight will come off.

I hope you're. I'm writing these down. If you're watching this on YouTube, number.

Three is if the expiration date on the food is older than your life, don't eat it. Okay. You know, you can. I mean the Twinkies.

Twinkies, yes.

And in Indiana, they. They deep fry the Twinkies. So that's even worse. Like, no offense to the Twinkie eaters, but those things have an expiration date for about 10 years or something. So if the expiration date is longer than your life, do not eat. Eat it.

Right, okay, so. And that really means eat fresh.

Yes. So yeah, yeah.

But preserved food. So like, what about, like, ham and turkey that you get Delicatessen. Right. That's all.

I would go for the natural one that they actually shave in front of you.

Yeah.

Rather than the packet ones. Yeah, for sure. I mean, if you. To get protein, if you are a person that needs a high level of protein and that's an easy source. It's not my first choice. The ones in the bag are definitely not a choice. But if you can get it cut in front of you. Yeah, that I like. The more natural turkey. Yeah, for sure.

You don't even need your notes. You are on these five. I love this.

Oh, yeah.

Let's go to four.

Anyone that comes to my classes knows they know. And then number four is if the words and the ingredients you cannot even pronounce.

Yes.

Golly. You have no business putting that in your body. If you can't even read it, then why are you putting it in your body?

Interesting.

Okay, and then number five is the portion control. The portion control has gotten out of control in the last five years. South Africa, we still follow quite a kind of a European diet. And the portions are a lot smaller. Like when you go out, if you order a sandwich, you'll get a sandwich, and you'll get a sandwich.

Yes.

And that's all you'll get is a sandwich. And it's a tiny little sandwich. And then if you want fries, you can order fries and you'll get about five. And so when we came here and we saw, wow, the portion Control. You've got enough food on your plate to eat a family for four people, Right? For four people. So it's unbelievable. And then, oh, when I see the Big Gulpies of Coke, oh, my goodness, people are drinking that for breakfast. It's like, you know what? Like I said, if you like a Coke or a Diet Coke, you can.

Have one 12 ounces, please.

Yes. Once a day, or maybe not even once now and again, but like a Big Gulpie like that. So portion control is out of control. You've got to cut your portions.

And Diet Coke. I know. We got some Diet Coke people here.

I know, I know.

I love it.

Yeah. And it's.

How bad is it for you? It's horrible.

It's bad. But there's a lot of things that are bad for you. There's a lot of things. So you just have to kind of decide what you want to give up. Do I recommend Diet Coke? Absolutely not.

Good.

There are addicts out there that love Diet Coke. And if you want to have it maybe one day a week in your 15% behave like an animal day, then go for it. But just don't make it. Don't make it a. I mean, there's some people that will have five or six cans a day, and that's a problem.

Right.

Anything. Anything in excess is too. Is not healthy. Amen.

So, Sharon, you have been so much fun. Jason, what did you think of our guest today?

I'm taking some pretty heavy. Pretty heavy notes.

And are you. I'm just wondering, are you 50% good with all this, or are you living maybe 30% good with all this?

Well, actually, right now I'm on a starvation diet, so I'm doing a lot of fasting. I'm going days up to.

Fasting is good.

Last month I went for seven days without eating, and I'm dropping down £10amonth.

Yeah, it's great.

And so what is your motivation for that?

I'm a little fatty. Actually, my brother bet me at this last Christmas that I couldn't get down to 180 pounds from 260 by the next Christmas.

Oh, wow. $500 online. Oh, wow. Just a couple of more things I just want to add quickly. It's food allergies. Food allergies are rampant right now. And so if you are not feeling right and if you have a stomach ache after you've eaten something or you break out in hives or something, people just live with this kind of stuff. That's not normal. That's not normal. So with allergies after the menopause hit me. I've developed an allergy to yeast. And so brewer's yeast and baker's yeast. And so that's typically everything with gluten in it. And I cannot eat it. And I don't know how I developed it, but I did.

I think I'm going through some of that.

You have to have your food allergies. If you don't want to go and get tested at a place, then do an elimination diet. So getting back to our five rules. The five rules are just eat real food. Just eat real fresh food.

Fruits and vegetables is what I say. But not.

And some proteins. Yeah, proteins as well. So eliminate. Eliminate dairy, eliminate sugar and eliminate carbohydrates. Go for about a week and then add dairy. See how your stomach does. If it's fine, it's not the dairy. If you eat gluten a week later. So eliminate everything and then add in gradually and then your body will react to. What if it does have an allergy? If you don't want to go to a doctor and get tested. So that's also key. And then another one thing I have to add in this. I know it's kind of weird to talk about, but what goes in your body needs to come out. And so many people don't think that is a key component of healthy wellness is gut health. Yes. And you've got colon health party every day. If you are not. You know, there's some people. I go. I only go once a week. Oh, my gosh. No wonder you upset.

Yes.

You know, you've got to. You've got.

How do you feel about colon cleanses?

Yeah, I. I mean, they're extreme.

I love.

A lot of people do like them. I haven't done them much.

Yeah.

I think.

I think twice a year is good. Right. When you pay your taxes. May and November, going for your.

I drink a couple of gallons of water a day. No joke. That's pretty good, right?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I don't think you need any.

I've always heard drink twice the amount of ounces than your body weight.

I always say start with 100 ounces and then if you need one. Yeah. I always say 100 ounces. And then if you need more, if you don't.

Sharon, that was so awesome going through the red formula, learning about your history and just all the great advice you've given our listeners today. I think when we talk about eating right and when we talk about exercising, you are just the perfect guest to have real Tangible solutions for our people. Real, tangible action items. But now we're going to get to know you a little bit better in this thing that we called knowledge through the decades. And what we're going to do is walk you through your life and ask you the attitude lesson that you've learned in each decade of your life. And so obviously, what we always like to do is start with childbirth. Now, some people do remember being born, some people don't. So I would like to either ask you, if you don't remember, what do you think the lesson, the attitude lesson of a newborn baby is? Or think about your children when they were born. What's the attitude lesson that we can all garner from you, Sharon, in a newborn baby?

That's not a difficult question, but I'll try my best.

They only get harder, Sharon.

Yeah. Gosh.

They only get harder.

What would the attitude be of a newborn?

Yes.

Wow.

Or what could. What could you learn from a newborn? Or what did you learn when you had a newborn?

Well.

Don'T worry, there's no wrong answers.

I need to have the jeopardy sound effect.

Well, I think the attitude is pretty innocent at that point. You don't know what you don't know. And so it's probably pretty peaceful.

Right? So innocence and peace.

Yeah.

Is what you're thinking right now. A lot of people don't feel innocence and peace with a baby that's screaming all the time.

Yeah.

Or possibly like Ash, who didn't sleep for six years.

You're right. That's fair. That's fair. So it could. But I always.

But, but I think the concept of innocence and peace.

Yeah. Is really fancy. And then.

Yes.

And then maybe not so peaceful.

And. And so we'll leave that one there.

Okay. These are hard.

That's okay. Now I want you to think about being a little girl in South Africa. You're 10 years old. You're probably in, what, third grade? When you're in 10 years old. Do you remember your third grade teacher?

I do. I do.

What was her name or his name?

God. I had Mr. Mr. Ford. I had a whole bunch of different teachers.

Different teachers.

Yes. But I was definitely the little wild child. Like I told you. I just got up every day and I was off to school and didn't care about academics. All I wanted to do was just socialize. And I was the free spirit. That's where my free spirit started. My attitude was a free spirit.

10 and it's okay. And then, guys, it's okay to be a free spirit. It's okay. To be 10. Sometimes we need to get back to who we were as children.

Yes.

Right. In order for us to grow, to receive growth, to receive information. And that's what we do when I speak publicly, is we try to put people in their childlike state. And so I love that answer. And my question to you who are listening is, are you putting yourself back in your childlike state? Are you able to tap into yourself as a child each and every single day? If you want to bridge the gap in your attitude, if you want to have a positive attitude, what I'm going to encourage you to do is think about that child that was having fun, that was. Had that free spirit, and I think that's great. Now you're 20. Were you still in South Africa?

No, I was. I left South Africa when I was 20.

Okay. Holy crap, that's a big deal. So what's your attitude lesson there? What was going on in your head?

I think it was growth that I left South Africa. I came here and I was a nanny, and then I went and lived in London for a year. And I was working above in a pub, downstairs in the bar and working upstairs.

You were a bartender?

Yeah, in a London. Old London pub. It was unbelievable. I met so many wonderful old men. They would come in and have their beer in the afternoon, and it was great. It was just realizing that there were so many other people in the world and different cultures and different people that were really cool. And I wasn't just restricted to being South African. And I was out and I was free. I left South African. I went on my own. I was dating a guy at the time, and I met him. He was South African. We met in London, and I was growing as a human.

That's cool.

And my attitude was, well, sure, let's do it.

I like it. I like it.

Lots of growth happened in those years.

I love it. And so to tap into that lesson, right, there's no reason to stop that lesson. There's no reason to stop growing. And actually attitude booster number seven, which is grow or die, Right?

And I'm a huge fan of that, for sure.

It's good.

If you think you know everything, your soul dies. And if you don't, keep learning, you know, that's what I also always recommend to people, too, is self coaching and just really keeping yourself educated and really working on that mindset of I can grow all the time.

And maybe they could share this podcast because this is a personal development growth podcast.

Yeah, that's great.

All right, so now that was 20, that was 20. Now what happened with 30? Did you get married at 30?

No, I got married young. I got married young, 22. And then I had my first at 20 and then 25. So my 30s, I definitely matured. My attitude was mature and I had two kids. And so my professional world was getting better, it was getting bigger. I started really finding my steps and my stride in the fitness world where I was doing more of the one on one. That was my core business of one on ones. So, yeah, maturity was my. I felt like I had picked up a lot more responsibility being a mom and also love. The attitude of love was huge. I didn't realize how much you could love something until you have young kids. Right.

I love it and you exemplify that and I think that's beautiful. And so I hope that those listening take a second to analyze how mature am I, how mature am I being and how much am I loving others? And so this will be the last one when you turned 40? Yes, just seven quick years ago.

Yeah. So that was kind of the tough years of my life. I was divorced about 10 years ago, so it was kind of creeping up into my 40s. And then I realized there was a huge point in my life where I realized that I can do anything I want to do if my mind is right. I didn't think I'd come out come out of it all, but I did and I'm proud of it because I really fought hard to change my attitude and realize that, you know what, I'm good, I can do this, you're going to bridge that. And a lot of people always come to me and say, oh, how did you do it? How? You know, I'm all alone now and I'm like, you can do it. I had a friend of mine last night, she was talking to me about it and I was like, don't look back. Because the moment you look back, you lose momentum and you lose sight of the goal. And that's to get yourself going again. And so don't waste your time looking back. There's nothing good that comes out of looking back.

Yeah, you can't see your future in the rear view mirror, baby.

In anything you do. I mean, if you're racing, you look back, it costs two seconds. If you are in a difficult situation, you have no business. You're not going to gain anything by looking back. You've just got to keep going forward. So I think strength, my attitude was strength and power, that I had it.

I love it. Well, Sharon, you are strong, you are powerful. We are so thankful.

I'm thankful for you, too. You know, it's like as you get older, you realize we've been friends for so long, and it's like, I do. I really value my wealth on friendships and relationships, and it makes us really, really strong. And life is too short not to have those.

Amen. Amen. Well, we are going to wrap this up. It has been good. We focused on attitude booster number nine, eat right and Exercise with the incredible Sharon Phillips. You can check her out on instagram @sharon lphillips. You can hit her on Facebook at Sharon Phillips. She has asked if you were moved by this podcast, if there was something that you want to speak more to her about, if her story moved you. And she's been through some stuff. And she talked about how the exercise and the eating right and that physical condition created that strength that she ultimately. And this woman has strength. I'm telling you, she walks around the girl when she walks into a room. Jason, does she light up a room when she walks up the room?

Definitely did.

There's no question about that. So, Sharon, thank you so much. And it was great to have you on.

Thank you. I am absolutely privileged to be on the show and I appreciate.

Very good. And this is Glenn Bill signing off for attitude booster number nine, eat right and exercise with the great Sharon Phillips. We will see you on the next Get Attitude podcast. This podcast is a part of the C Suite Radio Network. For more top business podcasts, visit c suiteradio.com.