572: How Changing Your Choices Changes Your Life with Kim DeYoung

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Welcome to the Achieve youe Goals Podcast. I am your host Hal Elrod and I am thrilled to be joined by Kim D. Young. She'll be with me in just a minute. A brilliant author, coach and entrepreneur who has dedicated her life to helping others unlock the power of their choices. In fact, Kim quite literally wrote the book on this topic. It's titled the Book of Choice, which is a deep dive into how the decisions that we make shape our lives and how to approach those decisions with far more intention and purpose. Now in today's conversation, we will explore what it means to live an examined life, why this is the key to creating a meaningful and fulfilling existence. And Kim will also share insights from her choice mapping process, which is a powerful tool that she has developed to help people navigate even the most complex decisions with clarity and confidence. We'll also dig into the different types of choices that people make, the common obstacles that can hold us back, and the practical steps anyone can take to start making intentional and thoughtful choices today. So whether you're struggling with a difficult decision or you're simply looking to live with more intention and get yourself to make better choices and follow through with those choices which we talk about today. This episode is packed with actionable advice and inspiration. So grab a pen, take some notes and get ready to gain some powerful tools for creating the life you truly want. Before we dive in, I want to take just a minute to let you know that this episode is brought to you by the Miracle Morning App and specifically the Premium plus subscription. You can join the Miracle Morning App community of tens of thousands of daily users and basically think of it this way. The book teaches you the Miracle Morning. The app is your daily companion where you can do your journaling, you can create your affirmations, you can listen to guided practices that lead you through the savers. There are over 500 visualization prompts and it's an accountability buddy. You check off your savers every day and it helps you to be accountable and follow through whether you are a Google Android app or iPhone user, head over to the App Store or the Google Play Store, where There are over 4000 reviews averaging 4.9 out of 5 stars in the App Store, I believe. And join the miracle morning app community today. You can try the app today. You can download it for free and then try the premium plus subscription for seven days. And you now get to add another person to your membership for free. And we host four live events where I guide you through having your miracle year in 2025 and beyond. And that comes all included in the app. So go check it out today. All right, without further ado, I'm excited to introduce you to Kim DeYoung. And you're going to hear, like, she walks me through this process today, because I used to, before today's episode, identify as an indecisive person, and she completely helped me reshape that narrative that I've been living by. So now I am decisive. I do make powerful choices, and I want you to as well. Here we go.

Kim, as we were just saying, this is our first time meeting. I'm excited to finally meet you.

Thank you. And as I would say, I feel like I know you so well because I watch you all the time. I just love everything that you're up to. So it's so good to be with you.

I appreciate that. And now I'm loving everything you're up to. I've been studying you. I've been watching videos of you. I've been learning about your work. And just for the audience, anybody listening, you came highly recommended from John Bergoff, one of our mutual friends, my longtime friend. And John rarely recommends someone for my podcast. Right. That's a big deal. He doesn't, like, play that card very often. And he said, hey, there's someone that I think you have to have on your podcast. And when he shared who you were and he shared, I said, what does she talk about? That's always my first question. He said, you know, she wrote a book called the Power of Choice. And I go, okay, that's universally applicable for every human being on the planet. So I'm like, okay, I'm interested in. And then I watch some of your videos. I go, wow, she's a really good communicator. She's very authentic, and she knows her stuff. So it was an easy yes. And as I've been watching your videos and diving into your content, in fact, let's start here. We're talking about the Power of Choice today, how choices change your life, create your circumstances. A lot of different ways we can take this. As I said, it's universally applicable. I just want to start. You literally wrote the book on this topic. The Book of Choice.

The Book of Choice, yes.

In fact, let's start there. What is the Book of Choice, other than the obvious, based on the title, like what is it about specifically how it going to help a reader?

In a nutshell, in the simplest of sentences, it will help them to be more thoughtful and conscious about the choices they make. I teach a process at the, at a deeper level that teaches them to become their own coach, become their own guide. Because so many of us get caught in not having clarity when we make decisions, not feeling confident. And the Book of Choice supports you to feel that confidence to move forward with your choices.

So something just came up for me as you were talking. I'm thinking, okay, I think most people understand like my choices determine my destiny, my life, et cetera. However, my question right now is the nuance between choice and discipline, choice and follow through. Right. Because somebody might go, I've made lots of great choices, but I don't follow. Like in the moment I'm like, oh, I'm choosing to get in shape this year. Right. But then like they don't actually make the momentary, the day to day choices that actually will follow through with the choice they thought they made.

Yeah.

So where, where is that gap or speak to that, the gap between choice and then discipline to follow through with the choices that you make.

It's a great question and honestly I don't ever think I've been asked it that way. And what I love about it is that the choice is the bigger picture embodiment of what matters to you. So take your health, take self care. I choose to focus on my self care. Well, that's a big choice. Now with that you must take action, you know, so that's kind of where the discipline comes in. I am going to get up at six in the morning and do my thing. I am going to be conscious of the foods that I eat. I am going to be conscious of the water that I drink. But it comes from the overarching statement to yourself of I choose to be conscious about my self care or some example of that.

So is it fair to say decision would be a synonym with the word choice but also intention maybe like choice is where you, you finally decide, hey, I'm going to do this. And then when you wake up the next morning, you're faced with the choice of okay, am I going to do the thing that I chose yesterday? Or am I not right? So it really still boils down to like, now you're, you're just making a choice to follow through with the bigger choice that you made. Is that fair to say?

Well, a hundred percent, A lot of it. It's like, why does the choice matter that you're even focusing on doing it? So if you've embodied this thought, I mean, just take Miracle Morning, for example. If someone were to say, I choose to really embody the miracle Morning, that's different than like doing it. Like, this is something I want in my life. Now the reality is there are actions to take. Like, you've got to get up, you've got to do your thing. So it's the question of, like, why does that matter to me? Like, why do I want to get up and do that? Why do I care? What do I know that's going to bring into my life? And I think having that real sense of, of why it matters, that is what allows you to then to begin to take the actions that support you moving forth with the choice.

Yeah, it was Simon Sinek, right, that made the power of why, like, how important that is. And for me that's the fuel. Like, you make the choice and then you've got to be clear on why did I make that choice, why am I doing this? And, and find reasons that are so meaningful to you that when you don't feel like doing it, you remember why you committed to it, why you made that choice, and then you follow through. One of the things I've heard you talk about is living an examined life. I mean, I heard you explain it, so now I know what it's about. But at first glance I'm like, what does she mean by an examined life? And my brain was like, like an intentional life, like a self aware life. So what does it mean to live an examined life? And why is that important?

So when I say the opportunity to live an examined life, it's a life that's thoughtful, it's a life that's conscious, it's a life that's intentional. I mean, almost I, I can actually explain it best to say what's the opposite. So imagine if you are not bringing intentionality into your choices and life is just happening to you, who wants to live that life, you know, where you're not in control versus saying like, I choose to bring intentionality to my life. I want to be thoughtful about the things that I do. I want to bring that consciousness into what I do. I happen to use the term, I choose to Live an examined life. Some people may or may not resonate with that word. I think an easy substitute is I choose to live an intentional life.

Yeah. Yeah. Language is so interesting. Right. Like, for me, intentional. That resonates like, got it examined. Right. So it's like, I think it's important that we do take when we learn concepts, that we take language that works for us and potentially adapt a lesson that someone else shared in the language that works for them. Can you give me some examples of the different types of meaningful choices people make? I heard a stat you shared, I think, 35,000 choices a day. That seems like a lot to me. And then. But you were talking about, like, the little ones, like, what am I going to eat today? What am I going to wear? For me, the shirt I'm wearing, I have 23 of these, and I wear the same shirt every single day because I don't want that decision fatigue. I try to minimize the amount of choices so that I can focus my limited mental energy on the choices that really matter. So give us some examples of the different types of choices that people make. Both meaningful, the big ones, the little ones. The difference is between the two.

Yeah. So at the simplest, so I actually kind of put choices into three different buckets. So you've got your simple choices, which is, what am I eating? What am I wearing? And all of that. And you're right, I have heard that 35,000 statistic, which, when you think about it, it's like, am I turning left? Am I turning right? Am I eating this vegetable? That vegetable? Like, you can imagine all of that.

Yeah.

And the truth is, if you start to get stumped on those little ones, it does get in the way of the bigger ones. The next bucket of choice is what I call the momentary choice. This is kind of when you are in a moment and you have a binary decision to make. Will I work on my project or will I spend time with my child? Will I clean the kitchen or will I do that project? That's been calling to me. It's kind of a. It's a yes or no. There's not enormous weight. But again, you could imagine, like, if you become the bottleneck in your own life for that, then there is the bucket. And this is the bucket that I focus on most in my conversation are the proactive choices, the choices that you know that when you're making them, they're making a difference for you. And those choices can be. It can be the gamut. I mean, it can be choices that are professional choices that you're making personal choices, relationship choices. So I choose to start a new job, I choose to leave a company, I choose to get into a new relationship. You know, I'm being very high level at the moment, or I choose to leave a relationship that I'm in, or I choose to work on a relationship that I'm in because it's not where I want it to be. And then the gamut of personal choices, I choose to work with a new coach or therapist, I choose to focus on my self care, I choose to travel. They can be bigger choices or they can get a little bit more granular. But I think the key is knowing the choices that you are putting your energy into and are you really embodying that choice? That's really the key thing.

I think that a big challenge for people I know for me is when we make choices purely out of emotion and we have mixed emotions. In fact, I'm a very indecisive person. Like my wife will tell you, I'm a very indecisive person. This episode is very much for me. And so I know you have what you call your choice mapping process. And I want you to unpack this because I know that for me, having a framework of like, oh, okay, here's the criteria that I'm using to make this decision, right? Or here's the criteria that I'm using to choose the foods I choose at a restaurant, right? Versus like, mmm, yum. What looks good? It's like, no, for me, I have criteria. It needs to be organic if it's produce, right. If it's beef, it needs to be grass fed. If it's chicken, it needs to be pasture raised. If it's like I have all this criteria and so it makes it really easy. Like there's only a handful of restaurants in all of Austin, Texas that I go to because that actually fit that criteria, by the way. The well for anyone in Austin, Texas, the well is my favorite restaurant that fits all the criteria. Just. Yeah, so anyway, but talk about your choice mapping process. So people have like an understanding of, okay, how do I make these choices? What's the criteria that I use?

Yeah, so choice mapping is a tool that I developed that helps you. It's a creative visual tool that helps you to look at the details of a choice. So I'm sure many you others that are listening are familiar with like the traditional pro and con list. You know, you sort of make those lists. Choice mapping specifically helps you to go deeper into the inquiry of the why you're making A choice. Why it matters, what could hold you back, what becomes possible for you because of that choice and the actions you'll take. So for any choice that does have weight to it, this becomes a simple tool for you to say, let me look at these questions. And you can choose to go as deep as you want in the inquiry with the questions, but it essentially gives you a tool that on one piece of paper, you can have your own information about why does that choice matter? And yes, we may have fears about stepping into a choice. Let's just imagine a. A business choice. I choose to get involved in a new business relationship. Well, you may have certain fears about it, but if it matters enough and. And if what feels possible is exciting enough, yeah, that may pull you forth. And of course, if you now create some actions that'll allow you to move forth with it. Now you move forth and. But here's the key piece. Like, let's imagine you're a couple of months into a relationship and it's not feeling good, or you're not in that space and something you go back to your map to evaluate. Like, do the pieces and the things that I shared initially, do they still ring true? If not, tweak them. So they do. So the map can become this living, breathing document that truly captures your truth for where you are in a moment. It's a very powerful tool.

Where can we get that? Is that online? Is that in the book at both? Like, where can we find.

So in the book of choice, I teach how to create the maps. I go from very, very simple. I teach a process that anybody can relate to and apply.

Got it. Okay. Yeah, that sounds very, very valuable because I don't have that criteria. Again, I have for specific choices, like health choices or this or that. But, like, overall, for these major life choices, I don't have that process. How did you get into this? How'd you become a coach specifically focusing on helping people make choices? How did this whole line of work find you? Or how did you find it?

Yeah, it did find me. I will say that I had been a coach for quite a while, and a little more than a decade ago, I was interviewed about something I was doing, and someone asked me a question that caused me to respond, oh, when we make choices and take action, how does our life unfold? That just sat with me after I left that interview. And I thought, how does our life unfold when we make a choice and begin taking action? Which caused me to go back to a particular choice I had made a bit of time ago. And to look at it and to notice it from the vantage point of oh, I made this particular choice and from that choice I met this person, had this opportunity, this idea, this thought, and now I'm looking at a two year window in a mind mapping software of all this stuff I've created. And it was a really fascinating vantage point. First of all, to look back on the two years from the deep gratitude of had I not made this choice two years ago, look what would not be in my life then. An also really interesting vantage point of what new choice could I make today and what could become possible. So I was sitting in this space of this initial map that I'd created and I shared it with a friend who wanted one. And next thing you know, a year's gone by and I've had 29 conversations and I'm digging into the choices that people had made, not realizing that I was developing a process. But what happened at the end of that one year? After having had gorgeous conversations with people about all sorts of choices, I realized I had a very unusual vantage point about choice that most don't. And I realized that we all make choices. None of us are immune to them. And how could I take what I had learned both from the exploration for myself and of others, and craft it into something that would be valuable for others.

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And then got into coaching and writing the book. What are some of the common obstacles that people face when they're trying to make intentional choices? Are there obstacles that come up regularly? Obviously, in your work, I'm sure you see them. How can people overcome them?

I would say the biggest obstacle I hear often is people stating that they are indecisive. I think we have.

Like I did earlier.

You just did. Yep. And I'm not saying it's not rooted in a truth.

Sure.

But is there an opportunity for you to change that label? I mean, that's an interesting thing. It's like, I think we've grown accustomed to, oh, I don't make decisions easily. Oh, they're hard. I get caught in analysis paralysis. I'd rather put my head in the sand. Like, you hear these types of things that people say or decisions are hard. Imagine. I mean, this one might be a fun exercise for you of, like, to wake up tomorrow and say, I make decisions easily.

Yeah.

And just experiment with that. But I certainly see that that is probably the overarching thing that people say. And one of the benefits of what mapping gives to you is this ability to, like, pull all of this information out of yourself. Like, when you're creating a map, in theory, you are becoming your own coach. Like, you're having your own internal Q and A with yourself. The more honest and the deeper you go, the more information that you get, the. And hopefully in the process, that is giving you this ability to move forth with that decision that matters to you and thus become more decisive.

Well, that's powerful. And it's funny because I'm like, as you're saying this, I mean, affirmations is one of my expertise that I teach all the time. And then I'm realizing I'm affirming still that I'm. I have. Right. We all have blind spots. Right. Like, oh, I wasn't even aware that that's an area that I keep affirming that I'm not decisive and I'm not. I struggle with choices and all the things. So what you just shared brought up that for me. That. Yes. So, number one, it's an internal, like, hey, you've got to overcome that limiting belief and replace it with a liberating truth. As my friend Michael HYATT. Says a liberating truth of like, I am good at making choices or I'm becoming better or I'm choosing to be decisive, right? Like you take ownership of whatever that is. And then the second piece is like reading your book, the Book of Choice. It's like, oh, now I understand how to make choices. Because if you don't learn how to make choices, if you don't learn like the mapping choice, mapping your frameworks, then it's like, it's a lot harder to overcome the limiting belief. It's like saying I'm terrible at basketball and then you don't practice basketball. And so, yeah, you're still probably not good because you don't do it. But if you learn technique and you learn processes and you learn right, like now, oh, it's a lot easier to overcome the limiting belief because I think that's part of it is not just I'm good at this, it's like I'm committed to getting good at this, which is very different.

And that's a key language, like what you've just said. And I actually like, for example, when I work with anybody who's creating a map, I always invite them to begin with a clear I choose statement. I choose to focus on my health, I choose to get the new job, I choose to embark on a new relationship. But sometimes there's an opportunity to soften that language to say, I choose to explore getting into a relationship. I choose to explore finding a new job. Which is a very different energy and similar to what you are describing. It might be a little bit abrupt to wake up and say, I am a decisive human being. Great affirmation. But it can also be softened of, I am in the process of believing I am a decisive human being. That might be something that you can internalize a little bit more realistically and therefore embody it and move forward with it.

It's so important you said that. I think that's the biggest hang up for people with affirmations is they've been taught by these well meaning self help gurus to affirm something that is not true for them. Right? I am wealthy, I am decisive. And but like your subconscious knows your reality and it's like, no, you're not and you've never have been. And I can show you all the evidence that you need to tell you that you just are lying to yourself right now. You're like, dang it. So there's this internal conflict versus like, yeah, I'm in the process of. I'm committed to I'm working through. I'm getting better. Right? That is true. Yeah. That's great. So if somebody right now is listening and they are, they're like, oh, I wish I could ask Kim this question. I'm struggling with making a difficult choice right now. What advice would you give to somebody who's struggling right now with a difficult choice?

Great, great question. I would have them get clear on what exactly is the choice that they want to be making. Like, to put that into words, whether it is an I choose statement or I choose to explore statement. So that would be number one. And I would have them go through the questions, go through the, like, why does this choice matter to me? And put a couple of reasons as to why. And if you want to go deeper with that, absolutely do number two. Absolutely look at what could get in my way of making that choice. What fears, what limiting beliefs, what obstacles could get there. And then as you. The key thing that happens is when you write those things down, you get to this. To be able to look at it with adult eyes, to say, like, am I really going to let that particular fear get in the way of making this choice that I just clarified matters to me, or is this limiting belief? Is it kind of old? Like, does it have the charge that I think it does and you can look at it with adult eyes? Maybe it does. And you have to address it secondarily. You really, really want to look at what becomes possible for you when you make this choice. So now you're in this very interesting place of like, okay, I know the choice matters. I've got some things that could hold me back, but I've also got some things that really excite me. So now you're in this little bit of a tug of war of, like, am I going to let this stuff hold me back when I see what's really possible? And this is where you get to kind of own that for yourself. And then, of course, what actions will I take? What actions will I take tomorrow to move this choice forward? And immediately, the minute you begin to take action, momentum works in your favor. You know, you do your part, and then the synchronicities and nuances of life begin to happen. They always do. And you continue that process.

Everyone listening rewind about two minutes. And Kim just gave you gold. Like, that is. I just thought about liberation. Like, liberation through perspective, change. Right. Like what you just did is you took someone who was stuck, right? I'm stuck. I don't know what to do. And then through those steps of identifying the choice Looking at the obstacles that could hold them back, looking at fast forwarding, going, okay, what's possible if I make that choice? And then what steps do I have to take? Why is this important? Like that whole process all of a sudden? It is amazing how I forgot what I was recently stuck with something and then I was talking to somebody else and just by asking a few questions, like just changing perspective. I'm like, oh, wait. And all of a sudden it's, you're liberated. You're like, I'm no longer stuck. And nothing logistically changed my perspective. Just shift new possibilities became evident to me that I wasn't, that I was blind to before. Yeah. So powerful.

Well, perspective is everything. It's enormous to be able to shift your perspective. And I think when you start to have a few positive experiences of what happens when you shift your perspective, it becomes that much easier to know that that's a tool for yourself going forward.

Can you just summarize those steps again for me, for anybody listening? So if you're listening right now and you're struggling to make a difficult decision, and I think that what you just walked us through is really applicable to any decision that we need to make.

Any significant.

But yeah, walk us through those steps again because they were powerful.

Number one, get clear on your I choose statement. I choose to focus on my health. I choose to explore a new job, whatever that's going to be. Get clear on the statement first.

And it's aspirational. It sounds like, right? Like this is an aspirational.

Yes, yes.

Okay.

It's also, it's affirming. It's what you want to bring into your life. So, yes, aspirational. So you've now made that choice or you stated that I choose that. Let's just take you for example, Hal. Like, tell me a choice. Like you were saying, you're indecisive. What is a choice, you know, you need to be making right now?

Oh, man. Oh, now you're putting me on the spot. Let me think. What's a choice that I need to make? All right, so I've got some, let me think through, through work stuff. I've got a lot of things in my work that I want to do. Oh. So it's whether or not I write the Miracle Life, which is like a more of a self help book like the Miracle Morning and the Miracle Equation, or do I write a memoir, which I could title the Miracle Life, but so it's basically the choice between do I write another self help book where I do share My story within it. Or I just had Tucker Max on a webinar on writing a memoir and he kind of convinced me, like, Hal, you need to write a memoir where it's pure story. You don't teach anything. And so that's a choice I'm trying to make now. It's like, how do I decide between the two? And I had thought I was going to write the self help book and now I just had a new possibility of writing this other book.

So interestingly for you, you are the perfect example to say I choose to explore which type of book I want to write. Because you know, you're writing a book, so that's not the choice. Okay, so yours is. I choose to explore which book I will write. So now you can go through those questions. Why does that matter to me? And that will help you to sort of unpack that. And I would recommend going deeper and deeper. Like, yes, come up with a couple of things for yourself, but then pull apart those threads a bit. Now you're going to look at what could get in my way of making that choice you're sitting with. I choose to explore which type of book I will make. What fears, obstacles, limiting beliefs could get in your way of that. What becomes possible for you as you make the choice of which one? Because you know, as you make the choice of which one, now you're going to move forward because you're going to put the other one aside. You're going to focus on the thing that you want. And now you will have the ammunition, the oomph, the ready to get up to start with this thing that matters to you. And then now that you're kind of in that dreaming, aspirational possibility place, now you will take the clear action and you will have realized like, oh, I want to go down this lane. And now you'll put the other one aside and you will focus on where you are.

What's interesting just by you asking those questions, what came up? For me, it was the question around, like, what becomes possible? Something like that. It's like, well, I've never written a memoir, so to me that like is the obvious choice. I can always write another self help book. I've written plenty of those. But a memoir, I've never done that. And I'm a big believer. Like I read John Maxwell's book Failing Forward decades ago and I'm like, everything's an experiment to me, right? I'm like, maybe this will be the worst decision ever. Let's find out, you know, Right. But it's like, but doing something new out of my comfort zone.

So why does it matter? Because I want to do something new and something fun and something that I've never done before. I mean, that's a beautiful, valid reason as to why. And imagine and start. So now that you may have landed on memoir, just in this short moment, begin to imagine, like, okay, what could become possible if I really write this memoir? What starts to happen for me, for others, for people who hear share my story? What's the impact in the world? Not just for you, but for others, for your family, for those that haven't even met you yet. Like, you can start to really go there. And now all of a sudden it's like, wait, now I kind of know the actions I want to take. Like, I wanted to start writing, I want to get started and work on that. And it may support you to more comfortably put the other book to the side for the moment. You can always come back to it.

Totally always. Awesome, Kim. Well, we could talk forever. I honestly want people to get your book because it's like, let's take this wisdom and take it from a 30 minute podcast to a three week reading experience. Like, that's what I always say. But to be it's like, that's the power of reading a book is you watch a video, you read a blog, you're thinking about the thing for five minutes, right? But when you read someone's book, you're really getting to go deep. And when you're in the shower later in the day, after you read the book in the morning, oh, idea based on. And then, you know, and then the compounding effect of that is powerful. So the book is the book of choice, but literal. It's the official book of choice and people can grab it, I'd imagine Amazon or wherever books are sold. And where can people follow you to get more Kim DeYoung wisdom?

I would say if you go to my site, Kim deyoung. Com, everything is accessible there. You can get my links to Instagram, to LinkedIn, et cetera. What I will say is really fun on my site is access to a quiz that I created which is how to know the type of decision maker you are. So are you the rhino who charges forth? Are you the ostrich who puts your head in the sand? Like, to understand who you are, but also the strengths of who you are and also the opportunities for growth. So that's a great thing to take and you can get access to that from the site.

I'll give you some self awareness so, Kim D E Young dot com. Yeah, the Book of Choice. Y' all go grab a copy. Yeah. Kim, I'm so grateful that we got this time together. And I mean, I could see just your expertise around choice. It's such an important topic. So I think that we. We do this again.

No doubt. Well, I want to chat with you about your direction. You've got some exciting stuff coming up. You and I should have a part two.

Yeah.

I'll support you on you stepping into your decisiveness.

Yes.

Your book. Done.

I love it. Awesome. All right, Kim, thank you so much.

So beautiful.

And goal achievers and members of the Miracle morning community, you know, I love you so much and I hope you enjoyed this conversation with Kim. Go grab her book, the Book of Choice to help you be more decisive and make the choices that matter to you so that you can use choice to make changes in your life. Love you so much. Talk to you next week.

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