594: The Medical Intuitive Who Helped Me Heal What Doctors Couldn't with Jason Ward

Hello and welcome to the Achieve your goals podcast, the show that empowers you to wake up to your full potential and achieve your biggest goals and dreams. I am your host, Hal Elrod and I invite you to join us each week as we share actionable strategies to take your life to the next level, as well as interview world class experts and entrepreneurs who have achieved extraordinary goals themselves. And we ask them to give you a peek behind the curtain and teach you exactly what you need to do to do the same. Ready? Here we go.

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Welcome to the achieve your goals podcast. This is your host, Hal Elrod and today's conversation. Today's episode is going to stretch your thinking, especially when it comes to health, healing and what is possible beyond conventional medicine. I am interviewing, talking with Jason Ward. He is a medical intuitive. Now here's the deal. I didn't just discover Jason Ward as a podcast guest. I was referred to him by a personal friend who had worked with him and explained to me that Jason was able to discover things in his body that the doctors were not able to discover. And then he was able to go to his doctors and say, this medical intuitive said that I've got a hernia in this part of my body. Look here. And the doctors were able to then discover what was wrong and then they were able to heal him. Now, as you might be, I was skeptical, but I also trust this friend. In fact, he's joining us and in the podcast today, Jeremy Reizig. He's my chief growth officer. We've been friends for 20 plus years. So I know Jeremy like a brother. I love Jeremy, I trust Jeremy implicitly. And he explained to me how this medical intuitive helped him, how Jason helped him. And so most recently, I worked with Jason for the second time and I had a wrist injury that I hurt in jiu jitsu and it was injured for a year. And I saw my traditional doctor. I went and saw a specialist, an orthopedist. No one could give me relief and no one could heal the injury in my wrist. So I had actually forgotten about Jason. I hadn't talked to him for six years. And I was telling Jeremy about the wrist injury and he said, hey, have you done a session with Jason Ward to have him scan your wrist and see if he can figure out what's wrong with it? And I said, oh, I completely forgot about Jason. So this is probably a month or two ago. And so I had a session with Jason and he does this over the phone, by the way. I know it sounds crazy, but you can't Argue with the results. Jason said, oh, I can tell you what's wrong with your wrist. Towel. He said, you actually had two injuries, and I'm not looking at my notes. I forgot what they were called. But he said, the first one is healed. The second one is not healed. What's causing you the pain is not the actual injury. It's the scar tissue that is built up around the injury that's rubbing against your wrist bone, whatever. And he said, that's causing you the pain. He said, so what you need to do is a go back to your doctor, have them look for this particular area of your wrist where the injury is located. He said, let me guess. When you push on that area, it's painful? Yes. I said, yes. He said, you need to push through the pain and you need to massage the scar tissue every single day and break up the scar tissue, and that will relieve your pains. You can start lifting weights again and using your wrist again. He said, also, I want you to take a glucosamine supplement. He gave me a very specific supplement. Y' all listen to this. You can't argue with results. After one year seeing multiple doctors, having multiple X rays, multiple MRIs, and having no relief whatsoever, within two weeks of massaging my wrist in the way that Jason Ward told me to do and taking this glucosamine supplement, I was able to get 90% of my function back. It's not 100%. Occasionally, if I twist it the wrong way, I will still feel a little pain. But I'm now lifting weights at full capacity, and I'm using my wrist again, and I don't have pain anymore. And so I thought, I've got to bring Jason on. I'm curious. How does he do this? Is this a superpower? Is he talking to God? And I want to say this for anyone that is like, if you are a devout Christian, and you're like, nope, the Bible says, do not listen to mediums or psychics. In fact, I was telling a friend, I bring this up today in the conversation with Jason. I asked him about this because I was telling a friend of mine who's having undiagnosable medical issues, can't figure out what's wrong with him. Doctors can't figure it out. And I said, you've got to talk to Jason Ward. He's a medical intuitive. And my friend said, I don't know. I'm a devout Christian. And he said, the Bible says not to listen to any mediums and this and that. And I looked up the verses in the Bible that say that. And so I asked Jason about it today, and he says, I'm not a medium. He says, I don't hear voices. He says, this is more of a scientific thing that I do. I'm able to. He goes, I don't know where this gift came from, but I'm able to see into someone's body. I don't hear voices. I don't predict the future. I literally look into your body. And again, if I were just hearing that, I would say, I don't believe it. It's not possible. But you just can't argue with someone being able to diagnose specifically what is wrong and how to fix it. And by the way, he's done this for thousands. I think it's tens of thousands of people now. So listen for yourself. I think you'll be blown away. And most importantly, I'm sorry, I'm getting excited here. I'm not sorry, but sorry, not sorry. Jason is one of the sweetest human beings. Like, he is such a soulful, heartfelt, genuine human being. He's a father of six. He's got six kids. He's. He's a devoted husband. I think you'll love him. He is a sweet, sweet human being, and he's got a gift that has helped thousands of people to get healing. And as you'll hear him share toward the end of the episode, one of the hardest parts is sometimes he sees things that cannot be healed, and he has to deliver heartbreaking news to people saying that, I don't think there's a way through this. There's something in you. You've got a disease, or you've got an illness or you've got damage that is irreparable from his perspective. And that, he says, is the hardest. In fact, he tears up toward the end. He said, that's the hardest thing, especially if it's delivering news to a family about their child. But, yeah, listen to this with an open mind and an open heart, and I think you will love this episode. And if you can watch this on my YouTube channel, I highly recommend it because you'll just. You'll see Jason. In fact, when you see Jason, he's got a long beard, he's really muscular, he's got tattoos. You go, you'll immediately pass judgment, right? You'll probably judge a book by its cover, as we do unconsciously or consciously. But, yeah, he's a special human being. I hope you enjoy this episode and this conversation as much as I did. I love you so much. Here we Go. Jason Ward, everybody. Hey, fellas. It is so good to be with you.

Hello. Hello. Good to be with you. Good morning.

All right, so, Jason, you were just telling me that this is your first podcast you've ever done. Is that right?

That is correct, my friend. Yes, ever.

And you said you've probably turned down at least 20 invites for podcasts at a minimum.

At least 20. Yes, sir.

So I got to ask, why did you say yes to me and Jeremy here?

I'm an energy guy, and you guys both have really good energy, good hearts. Obviously, I've worked with you before, and I guess when you're a medical intuitive, you don't just get to see the physical form, you get to fill the soul. You know, these physical forms are rental cars our soul gets to use. So to me, the souls. What made me say this feels right. So here I am. Thank you for having me, by the way.

I like that.

Thank you.

Oh, yeah, man. It is an honor. And I know that you were on the Oprah Winfrey network, what, almost 20 years ago, give or take, or 15 years.

That is correct. Somewhere in there, yeah. Memory of a goldfish, but somewhere in there, yeah.

I just want to highlight that. That. So you've only said yes to the Oprah Winfrey Network and the achieve your goals podcast. I take that as a huge.

That is correct.

You must be a good soul, then. A good bir, dude.

I guess so. Yeah. Despite the rental car and its mileage.

Yeah.

The soul is there. So I want to actually start with Jeremy. I want to ask you, Jeremy, I believe I told you about Jason years ago when I was going through cancer.

2019.

You know, the year 2019, someone referred me. I don't even remember Jason. Do you remember who connected us initially?

To be honest with you, I really don't. I work with so many people. I couldn't remember.

I was trying to remember.

Yeah.

It was many years ago, you and I shared the memory of a goldfish together, but. So I told Jeremy about Jason. And then Jason helped you discover something that was undiscoverable to doctors, if you will. And he's helped me do the same. And I had an injury, and you reminded me. You said, have you connected with Jason Ward on that? And this was just a few months ago. And I went, no, I totally forgot about Jason. There you go. Jason, the memory. I go, I forgot about Jason. And I reached out to Jason and Jason. Your advice. After doctors spent a year that could not figure out what my wrist injury was, I couldn't use my Right. I kept re injuring my right wrist every time I twisted open a container, lifted something. And I couldn't lift weights. I couldn't exercise. I couldn't play pickleball. And within a matter of weeks, taking your advice and your diagnosis, what the doctors and the specialists couldn't find, I was able to get use back in my Wrist. It's not 100%, but I'd say it's gone from 20 to probably 90%. I'm lifting weights again, and it's just. It's a miracle. So with all of that said, Jer, I want to hear your story, because you reminded me of it today. I'll call it the hernia story. Share that experience, if you would.

Yeah.

Great.

Well, I'm happy to. And it's just wonderful to be here with the two of you. Number one, rehashing the origin of Hal, how you introduced me to Jason, and then all the benefits I've received from Jason, not only in my physical body, but in my. In my approach to the world. So I'm excited to share. So, Hal, you introduced me in 2019, and I didn't have anything wrong going on with me then. I was just very curious about the guy who looked into your body and said that there was no more cancer left. Yeah, because that was what you had said. You said, yeah, I had this. This guy look into my body to see if there was any cancer left. And I was like, how is that possible? I got to check this out. And so I essentially called Jason, or message with Jason, got on his calendar and just asked him to do a scan, an overall scan of my body. Hey, take a look at anything that's going on. Set up an appointment to do a scan where Jason. And I'll let him explain what a scan is. He scanned me, and then I had him scan me, of course, over the pandemic again and then multiple times just to check to see if my immune system was locked and loaded, ready to take on anything that came my way. Asked him extra supplements that I could use based on my body type that would be specific to me, that would boost my ability to again, fight off anything that was uncertain coming my way. And so I really used Jason as someone to check in and get ahead of anything initially. And then I kept experiencing a plateau in my workouts for years and years. This precedes Jason. Like, going back to 2008, I've had, like, a pain in my stomach when I work out aggressively. Like, I can work out. I can run, I can do yoga. But if I lift weights and I did abs hard. I would experience like a pain somewhere. And I had gone into hospitals and to doctors, emergency rooms, gotten ultrasounds, had doctors look, have them tap on my stomach, like hold down by my groin and, and have me cough and all the things that would be like hernia stuff. And then eventually I brought that specific example to Jason. I was like, hey, I'm having this pain in this one specific spot, this one place, and it's very, very small, but it only happens if I do this specific thing. And then we looked into that spot with a great deal of granularity. And he was like, you have inguinal hernia, I think is what he called it at the time. And in the doctor they called it an umbilical hernia. And they're essentially the same thing roughly. And so he identified the hernia and then said, hey, as you move through the medical system, which you'll have to do in order to get this fixed, you'll probably be met with a little bit of resistance because the doctor probably won't be able to find it initially. And then there probably will not be an ability for the ultrasound to find it, which means it's harder to go to the next step because the doctor and the system does not see the need to, for you to now get an appointment for the next tier up. And which is exactly what I had to do. I had to do extra follow up and all that stuff. Long story short, do the mri, the small, tiny, less than my pinky nail hernia is identified and then I go to a surgeon and they fixed me up and we did supplement routines and everything before that surgery. And then that was 2021. And since then I've only gotten fitter and fitter and been able to go heavier and heavier and do more abs and more cor, which has actually not only enabled me to work out the way I always wanted to, but it also enabled me to have less pain in my body because I wasn't able to strengthen my core because of the hernia. And then I've met with him six times since then, again for check ins on many other things.

So what the doctors could not identify or diagnose Jason over the phone, if I'm not mistaken. Over the phone, Right over the phone is how you identified what was wrong with me too, Jason, over the phone, he was able to see into your body, tell you what specifically was wrong, and then how to go about it through the medical system for them to find it, because they hadn't found it yet. And it was similar to me. They had looked at my wrist. I mean, just extraordinary, by the way, Jeremy and Jason. But they had looked at my wrist for a year. I had seen orthopedists, and they could not figure out what was wrong with it, and it wouldn't heal. And Jason, you went in, you said, hey, well, here's what's causing the pain. You had two injuries. One of them is healed, the other is not. There is scar tissue around it. What you need to do is actually break up the scar tissue by putting pressure to the point where it's painful in that area and break up the scar tissue. And then you told me which supplements to take. Glucosamine. But it's wild because when I pushed on that area, it hurt. And I thought, well, if I push there, I'm. I'm doing more damage. That's painful. And so every day, even while I was driving my car, I would just massage that area. And. And within a matter of weeks, I was able to lift weights again. And my doctor, he said, nothing's off the table. So he's open. He goes, I believe. But he goes, I'm a little embarrassed that this medium intuitive could solve your medical problem when me and my favorite orthopedist could not. So I want to start here. Jason, how did you do? Let's just start. Like, how did you do that? If somebody's listening, they go, how could this person over the phone see into Jeremy's body, see into Hal's body? What is that experience like for you? And I'd love to know, when did it start? So you can start wherever you'd like. But, like, what are you actually doing and what are you seeing? What are you feeling? What are you hearing when you're reading someone, when you're scanning someone? And then I'd love to. I'm curious at some point to. To know, like, when did that start for you? And how did you discover the ability?

Yeah, well, I mean, to first start off, I look at it where my soul is connecting to your soul. Kind of like a phone dials a phone number, if you will. And a phone call for me is just a bit more of a simplistic approach to that connection I used to, for years do in persons. And the problem I had was I like to pace around during my work. I like to be out in the mountains where it's just me, nature, new, all of my personal stuff waits for me when I get back home. So being able to do it on the phone and pace prevents me from seeing Someone's facial expressions or do they roll their eyes, do they grimace, do they smile? And then my brain kind of goes off into thinking, oh, you know, maybe I'm missing it or maybe I'm there. So to come in my own, my own environment, my own clarity just allows me to see what's in my head. Looks like a holographic or a 3D image, but it's like watching a live camera view. I'm just not able to rewind or fast forward the body, if you will. So then like, let's just say if I'm looking at the heart, let's say it's a, a mitral or tricuspid valve or narrowing in an aortic arch. Even going to look at like belly Rubin values in a liver. That allows me to kind of zoom in, if you will, like magnify into the area. Watch. Every cell of our bodies made of a protein. Does that protein cell look normal? Does it look abnormal? What is the white cells, lymphocytes and leukocytes of our immune system doing as a response or no response? So for me visually it's very mental, holographic, 3D, kind of like anatomy and biology. People ask me all the time, do you see my shockers or past lives or get messages? And it's not that I don't believe in it, but it's just not my skill suit. It's not what I do. I'm very much science based, physical body organs, hormones, bone marrow. That's just my world, which I feel quite blessed. And everyone usually asks me, you know, was it a message? Did you wake up and, you know, see an angel and all these cool things. And to be quite honest, I grew up in a very physically and sexually abusive household. And a teacher finally recognized that I was in serious trouble. Had my eighth broken bone in a single school year. So I was passed from foster home to foster home to foster home. And I'd probably seen close to 94 counselors before I was out. And all of them kept saying the things that you've been through you don't see in movies. And one day you're going to grow up and, you know, be an adult and it's going to hit you like a ton of bricks. And I just remember at 8, 9 years old saying they were teachers with lessons. And I know it sounds weird, but I feel like that there is no accidents in this and I don't hold any anger or animosity. I just look at it as, you know, I'm a student of life and These teachers are going to prepare me for something. And they said, oh, you're an old soul. You're an old soul. And I used to tell people, hey, I know it sounds weird, but I can see inside of this guy's body. And I remember on, you know, Sunday service, I'd have talks with the pastor and he would just say, jason, you know, sometimes people's brain work a little different. And. And one of the most amazing therapists ever, he would actually take me to this little pond and sit and talk where everyone else had me in an office with video recorders and horrifying for a small child. And he says, I just think that you went through so much trauma that your brain just forced itself to work a little different. And explain to me how intuition isn't a spirituality. It's something we are all given. It's, do we trust it? So do we trust what comes to us first? Do we really trust that gut instinct? Or do we allow that human brain to kind of dissect of why that's wrong, why that can't be? So the minute I got the confidence and just trusting my intuition is kind of where it started from. People saying, hey, I'm about to go on this date. Do you think this guy has any diseases that I should be aware of? Or I'm going to go into this business deal. And this person seems off. Can you see, are they on any stimulants? You know, like drugs or anything like that? So I became a magic show. Everyone wanted me to go, do you think she's pregnant? And then they come back with the test and be like, oh my gosh, you were right. And I remember it just didn't feel clean to me because I thought, I'm not a magic show. Like, I'm really wanting to use this to help people to the best of my ability. And that's when I told myself, you know, if it is to help somebody, if it's to help direct them, then I'll use it all day long. But if they want me just to do the shock and awe and, you know, show me all the cool stuff, I don't know, I don't think that's very genuine. That's why my marketing approach, I have no social media, no websites. My marketing is healing people. To me, that's the best form of marketing and the best form of service. So my past, to be able to do what I do today and have been for now, going on 38 years as the adult, the grown up child, I felt like those teachers gave Me some pretty ugly lessons, but life changing lessons and I'm blessed for it all. So to make a very long story short, that's just how I believe my gift came to me. Kind of thrown in a fire at a young age. Brain started working as survival and fight or flight and what's next? And thank goodness I focused on this thing everyone said was weird, but to me it felt very natural. I thought everyone could see visions in their head or inside of people's bodies. So yeah, it was a wild journey, but here I am.

You know what came to me is the movie Rain Man, Dustin Hoffman's character. Right. And how he, his brain did not work like most people and obviously it was based on a real life character. And what is the. I don't know if disease is even the right term. Do you remember what that character, what he had, was it autism or do you remember?

I truly don't recall.

I'm also dating myself. Anybody that's young. Like what movie? Rain man who? Yes, I remember it. But the point is like, it's these special gifts that he had where his brain didn't function like a normal person. He had like social anxiety and he didn't make eye contact yet his brain worked in these hyper sensitive ways. And it's interesting you said something that you view this more as a. Not through a spiritual lens, if I heard you correctly, but a scientific lens. Can you unpack that a little bit?

Yeah, I mean, to me, that's why I don't like using the term medium, in my opinion. I don't believe I receive messages. No one's telling me what it is that I'm seeing. And the problem I have with that is then if somebody was wrong like myself, I would say, well, that's what spirit told me. And I like to own it. I'm one of the few intuitives you can prove right or wrong with testing. If I say that you have cancer, you can go do a test and prove me right or wrong. If I say you're pregnant, you can go use one of those at home tests and prove me right or wrong.

Yeah.

So I think that there's a little bit of that credibility that has to come with the work that someone like myself does. It's really hard to understand it. It's really weird to talk to someone over a phone about your health, getting your mind to understand. Can they really see the inside of my body? Right.

Yeah.

And so for me, I think the scientific side of it is it has nothing to do with my belief system. It has Everything to do with my intuition. What is it that I see? Do I trust that don't allow myself to overthink it. When I trained intuitive for years, that was the hardest part for me to get across is just trust what comes to you first. So when I work with law enforcement, you know, a lot of the things is before you guys kick down the door, what's coming to you? Is there someone on the other side with a firearm? So it's about understanding, intuition. I don't believe you have to have a certain faith to have intuition. You just have to have self love, self trust and be confident in yourself that you're going to make the right decision. Yeah, that yourself is guiding you to in my belief.

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Absolutely. Everyone has a belief in something, whether it's belief in nothing or it's believing multiple gods, a singular God. And I don't think anyone's right or wrong, to tell you the truth. I'll be the first one to admit I've never heard God's voice. I've never spoke to angels. I haven't had anything that is out of this world. And I'm the type of guy that I believe in aliens when I see one. That's just me.

Yeah, makes sense.

I respect when someone comes to work with me, their first instinct is, oh, man, you know, he's going to go into. I have this feeling, and it's a color. And an old relative's talking to me. And I think when they get on the phone, they realize I'm very black and white. Anatomy, biology. I go into the physical body. I don't go into the spiritual body. I may have advice. I may have outlooks. I may have views of perception of things in life to help guide somebody. But I think that's no different than how we all should be. I think everyone on this planet is brothers and sisters. We share the same home called Earth.

Amen.

And we have to have that perception because someone may be, let's just say Catholic and someone may be a Buddhist. I don't look at them as any different. They're my brothers and sisters. They just have a perception of things a little bit different. Right?

Yeah.

And so when you reference that Bible verse, I totally understand, you know, where that fear would come from. But again, I'm not telling somebody, divorce your wife, sell the house and move to another country. I'm not giving anybody lottery numbers. I'm not predicting love lives. I'm pretty much saying, hey, I'm of service and I'm your brother, and how can I help you? And if there's something physically wrong, let me guide you. And not just with me. Free Willy. I want you to go to your doctor with this. I speak your doctor's language. We can do some tests, we can do these things. And then you can see through a scientific or a black and white approach that I'm just helping tell you where to turn left and turn right to get to the same destination. And kind of like when you go to doctors and your hand out medications and we're going to run the 18th Test and maybe it's in your head. And I've worked with that so much. And the person's like. But I physically feel it. It's not in my head. I know that there's something wrong. I know you've done all these tests that showed it nothing. And for me, that's kind of where I get my excitement is, is instead of me having to go by the system of if you don't do this test and if we haven't tried these 18 medications, then you can't go to the next step. I kind of like skipping all that part and going directly to where we need to focus. So I completely understand where that's coming from. And trust me, I'm sure you guys can tell I'm covered in tattoos, giant beard. I'm kind of a muscular guy. So people that meet me in person wouldn't remotely expect that I do what I do.

Yeah.

And I love that because of my childhood. This is the COVID of my book. Yeah. And it's, to be quite honest with you, it's a confidence thing. But I'm not the child that can't fight back or can't get help or doesn't know what's coming next. I'm in full control. Right. Am I a grown up child? Yes. But I'm not who I was at 9 years old or 13 years old. But it's the pages inside that once someone gets to know, I'm just a gummy bear. And I love people. I really do. And I think that the beauty is, without bad, how would we know what's good? So I volunteer a lot in foster homes and work with the parents and the children. And that's what I try to explain. Don't use your experiences to do bad as an excuse. Right. I got a bad deck of cards. That's why I'm doing this. I like to look at it as that those were just teachers with the ugly lessons, like I said earlier. And I believe whether it's God or whatever that higher power is, there's a path and a purpose for all of us. Right. It's what we choose to do that you can think about it. You can process. Oh, what if you could do this and that? I'm just the guy that likes to put it in action. If I think that I'm able to help somebody, I like to show up and give it 110%. And I got six kids. So when I'm done working, I disconnect. I don't carry anybody's backpack. I'm dad and husband and I don't Know, I feel like I'm living my best life. A perfect balance. Right. Whoever gives me that, that life and opportunity, I'm extremely blessed. I'm grateful for that.

Beautifully said. And I did not know you had six kids. What are your age ranges for your six kids? How many boys, how many girls?

So our two girls are 7 and 9, and then our four boys are 14, 16, 20, and 26. So pretty. Pretty widespread. Yeah.

Yeah. Oh, my gosh. That's a real widespread family. That's incredible, man. Six kids. And then do any of your kids have your gift or any gift similar? I'm curious. Right. Yeah, that's a curiosity for me.

No, that's a really good question, but honest, none of them do.

Okay.

They think what dad does is super cool.

Yeah.

They also think it's super weird, and I totally get it. Right.

Yeah.

They see dad is this big, strong guy that is cleaning the kitchen and likes to sing songs and wake everybody up with fun dance moves and stuff like that. But they know that when dad goes to work, it's serious and I'm there to help people. So my family supports me and loves me, and that's how I thrive. Every day is off of their love. It's better than any food, water, or sleep I could ever have. And, yeah, it would be cool to tell you some of my kids get to see through walls or do, like, cool stuff, but they. They don't. Yeah.

It's not the Incredibles at your house or whatever.

The.

The superhero family.

No. Their superpower is love. And that. That's all. I could ask more. I dig it. Yeah.

I love it. Let me ask you this. Are there times when you've been wrong or you've gotten just a fuzzy picture and you're going, you're looking at somebody trying to scan their body. You're going, I just. I'm not seeing anything. Maybe it's because you've got a headache. Maybe it's because you're tired. Maybe it's because there's a disconnect. I'm just curious if that. If that ever happens.

That's a good question. I don't think anyone on this planet is perfect. Sure. And I for certainly am not going to say that I'm flawless or perfect by any stretch of the imagination. It's not ego, it's confidence. I wouldn't be at this, this long if I didn't feel confident in my work and feel like I was able to help enough people. Right. In order for me to raise six kids and to live an amazing life. Back in the early 2000s, I had worked with a girl who had gotten a rat lungworm disease in Hawaii. And that's kind of where, like, rats and rodents will crawl over vegetation. Someone goes out and, let's say, eats an apple off the tree or something, for example. And what's left behind from those rodents on the fruit gets ingested, and it's really wicked, at least in bedridden and horrifying symptoms. And they were sending her home to die. And for probably our first two scans, my two sessions, I really thought it was a parasite. It was just a blood parasitosis that no one was discovering. And it wasn't until I'm like, gosh, but what I see in the spinal cord fluid, it just doesn't look like a parasite to me. So I literally begged the specialist on the phone. She got them to get on a group call with this. And I said, please do a spinal tap, because whatever this is, you're going to find it there.

Oh, wow.

They sent her to hospice, but agreed to do a spinal tap before they released her fully to hospice. And those results came back that she had rat lungworm. Put her on the appropriate medication, and she's thriving. And in Peru as we speak. I just got a message from her two days ago with a bunch of beautiful photos. So that would be an example of that. I just. My brain could not understand the rat lungworm side of it, even though I could see it in the spinal cord fluid and probably, gosh, multiple scenarios to where I didn't see it. And people ask me, why would you miss something? A couple things. One, I think someone has the ability to protect themselves from me. Someone comes in fearing, let's say, they really don't want me to see the cancer. They just don't. They don't want to hear it. They don't want to go through the chemo and the radiation. They don't want to go through sharing the news with their family. So I think it's almost like a wall that their soul puts up and doesn't allow me to see certain things. 90% of those that come to me really want to see something, anything. They just need help, a direction or suffering. Right. Yeah, but you do get those. I do believe that maybe puts up that wall. And I'm not using as an excuse. It's just my analyzation of when something is missed, you know, how well.

And you think about it. Right. Again, like you said, humans aren't perfect. So anyone in any profession. Right. Isn't going to bat a thousand, you're going to miss some things. And that is interesting, what you said about if folks don't really want you to see or they don't really want to know that there could be some sort of blockage. Jer, is there anything. I know you've worked with Jason, obviously more than I have. I've worked with him twice. You've, I think, done 10 sessions with him.

Yeah, I think 10 sessions.

Yeah. Any questions that you would add or anything that you'd want to share based on your experience working with Jason?

Yeah, a couple questions. One of them is how do you manage having this gift and the blessings you're able to deliver to people along with the pain that you inevitably have to deliver to them by telling them something they don't want to hear, even though they're the 90% who are open. How do you, number one, manage delivering it because it's sad, Maybe they get angry. And then also, then how do you, as you said, not take the backpack home with you? How do you not carry that with you into your family life and then into your next day and into your next appointment, and then you yourself feel pain?

It's such a beautiful question. I can tell you guys, forgive me, but telling their family that their kid. I don't see a route through it. I can't explain to you guys what kind of a pain that is. It's like your heart gets ripped out of your chest. It's something. And maybe it's because I'm a father myself. I just don't know how to explain to you that type of pain, because my job is to help and when I know that there's an old route through it, that there's an expiration date on those carton eggs. Forgive me, guys, I'm sorry. You do your best to prepare. You do your best to say it in the most light, humble, kindest way that you possibly can, but it has to be the truth. People don't come to me to sugarcoat things. I'm not a guy that's going to mislead. I'm not going to lie. I shoot from the hip. So I believe that you say the truth, that you also give that space to allow them to mourn and people to yell at you and to get mad and to be angry and to go, I just spent this money and time with you, and you're telling me there is no solution. The most challenging piece of my work is disconnecting. And when people go, oh, can I email you a question? Do you don't remember our session. I go, I promise you. I put in a valiant effort to forget and to leave that where I was working. That's why I like going to the mountains. I try to tell myself, I'm leaving this here. I cannot take it home with me. I believe humans are energetically sensitive. Someone's in a bad mood, they can come into a room, they don't have to say a thing. And I think you can feel it, right? So I'm very aware that I want my family, my friends, my community to feed off of happy Jay loving Jay, the guy that sings songs and likes to dance and make jokes and look at a flower and a tree and go, just stop and look how incredible this is. So to be able to leave that there is not just for my family, it's for myself. Because there were so many years I went to bed at night tossing and turning and couldn't sleep and would take notes at like three in the morning because I'm like, maybe there's a route, like if we went through this, this stage. And then you also battle up against a community full of liability. There's amazing specialists and doctors, and they are absolutely angels walking this earth. They really are. They dedicate themselves in the hours and the time they put in is mind boggling. Right. But even they're held back to saying, but if insurance can't approve this test, or if they don't approve this, and then we've got to refer you, and a lot of people get upset, and I absolutely get it, but they're kind of having to follow a system. Right. And it boils down to liability, which is sad. I wish every specialist had the freedom to look at their patients as their own children. Because if my child was in that position, there is no liability. There is no rules, there is no laws. There is no, you can't. It would take a force out of this planet to stop me from doing what I felt was necessary. And I just wish the medical community had a little bit more of that power to do what they knew was the right way of going about it, instead of the. The red tape and the paperwork. So sorry, that was long winded.

No, I love your answer.

That's beautiful. Thank you so much for sharing.

Had to tell you. Yeah, thank you, thank you.

And Jason, I appreciate that you work with the medical community. Right. You know, you're not saying, all right, Hal, here's what I discovered. So go meditate and drink green juice and heal yourself. That's part of it. You will recommend natural things but you go, hey, go tell your doctor what I found and then work with your doctor. And, and here are the things that I think that you can do as well. And that's how I approach my cancer journey was like, I'm going to combine the best of Western allopathic medicine and the best of holistic natural protocols that I can to heal my body. Because I think there's wisdom in both. If somebody wants to work with you, do you have a website? How do they find you? How do they learn more about you?

I really do. I can share a link with you to my booking calendar. I'm just a behind the scenes kind of guy.

Yeah.

Like you mentioned the Oprah Winfrey Network. I was begged for a really long time. But the gentleman at the time who designed all the outfits for Dancing with the Stars, I basically have worked with his rheumatologist, his specialist, and then when he basically got it treated and with things, I don't want to get too personal with this story, but long story short, that's how they reached out. And I was so opposed to it. But everyone said, hey, I think you can help a lot of people and know that what you do isn't weird and that it is science based and it's not woo woo. And you're not at a state fair with a little ball trying to tell people things that can't really go determined.

Yeah.

So the link, unfortunately is kind of my route and I believe if we're meant to cross paths, then we cross paths. And if not, then you're still my brothers and sisters and I wish you nothing but love and blessings and the best life possible. But yeah, the link is the best way to get a hold of me because I'm a word of mouth guy.

Yeah. And I can include this in the show notes, in the email, but what's the URL? I know, it's Titans Gate, something I remember because I've booked there.

Yeah. Let me see if I can find that for you. I apologize. It's a lot of words there. I don't know how to quite say that out appropriately.

We'll hyperlink it.

Yeah, I'll hyperlink it in the, in the email and in the show notes.

Perfect.

So yeah, people can find it there. Yeah. You are kind of secret. How many people have you worked with over the last 38 years? Do you have any count of that?

I mean, I work in about 55 countries, so I have an international calendar and then I have the US calendar, which you guys have seen. I think I Did the math. I was on average of like 2,300 people a year is usually what I tend to read. Yeah, it's quite a bit actually. Yeah.

Wow, that's 2300 a year.

Okay, so disconnecting is super important.

Almost 80,000 people. If I did 2300 times 30, 38 years, it's 87,000 people. So let's just say that a couple years you did a little less. Nice round number over 80,000 people, one on one.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And without a website, without social media, without a PR campaign, it's just you're healing people and then they're referring. It's like me and Jeremy, right. We're just recommending. I recommend you to Jeremy. He reminds me of you. You know, we're back and forth. Well before we wrap, any closing thoughts, any closing message? I mean you're a very wise.

Thank you person.

I like listening to you and so yeah. What's the last message that you'd want to leave with our listeners?

A couple things if I could. One, I would like for folks to know prevention is the best form of medicine. We don't just stop drinking in a couple months when we think about it, right. Or I'm going to start slowing down smoking on the New Year's, start putting it in action, right? Even if it's baby steps. Diet, exercise, water, sleep, the basics. People think you gotta spend thousands of dollars on acupuncture and hyperbaric chambers and all these supplements. And I go just start with the basics. Food, water, sleep and move your body. If we can just start there, the rest of it's gonna be so much easier. Secondly, it's perception. I work a lot with emotional trauma healing, right. And people like myself have had big traumas and PTSDs and former perception, right? Was that mom and dad? Was that the bully or were they teachers with ugly lessons? Then your perception of things really changes and not why does all the bad stuff had to have happened to me. It's. I had to go through that bad to understand the balance of the good. Because if everything was good, then how would you know it's good? It would just be so I think prevention, doing the basics of self care, getting that actually right, taking the time to perfect it to the best of your ability. And perception, perception is key. The perception of no one's right or wrong in their faith. Everyone's brothers and sisters on this planet and if we could treat each other like that. Maybe it's a fantasy, maybe it's a dream, but I just think the World would be such a cooler place and everyone would get along. Right. And like, the world would just be beautiful and everyone's out there trying to help each other. No starving, no homelessness. All these things I think would become to a minimum.

Yeah.

And also understand that people that do work like I do, everyone rows their boat a little different. It doesn't mean that they see mirages, doesn't mean that they hear voices. There are some genuine intuitives out there. A lot of them are good friends of mine that really are just here to help. They don't care about fancy websites or fancy social media. And again, it's perception that, yes, there is an alternative approach to taking care of yourself. When all the other modalities of the world tell you that they can't find nothing, nothing's wrong, don't give up. So love yourself enough to keep going.

Awesome, brother. Well, Jason, you are a soul brother. As you're talking, I just, I nod my head and I believe the same. I believe that we're all part of the human family. We're all brothers and sisters, that the belief systems that we have are just based on what we were exposed to in terms of information or influences from other people. And ultimately we have so much more in common than we will ever have different as human and spiritual beings. So what I'm going to do, if anybody is listening and going, ah, how do I get in touch with Jason? I don't have a link. I don't have anything. I'll find out your link from you, Jason, and I'll link it in the show notes. And if you're listening right now, go to miraclemorning.com forward/5,9,4. This is episode 594, so miraclemorning.com forward/594 scroll down and I will have in the show notes the link to be able to book an appointment with Jason. Well, Jason, Jeremy, I love you both. My brothers, I'm so grateful. This exceeded my expectations, man. I'm really, really grateful. Jason, I appreciate you so much.

Thank you for having me. Love and respect to you both. You guys are really good souls, good birds on this planet and it's a pleasure to call you guys my brothers. So thank you for having me. I really do appreciate you. Thank you.

You got it. And brother, I think you should do way more podcasts. I'm going to put that bird in your ear and make make that recommendation. I think a lot of people could benef just hearing your philosophies on life, not to mention of course working with you directly.

So thank you, my brother.

All right, Goal achievers, I love you so much. Thank you for tuning in today. And if you want to book a call with Jason, go to miraclemorning.com 594. You'll have to search through the show notes and I'll put it toward the top so that you can find that link. And I love you. Talk to you next week. Thanks for listening. To learn more about the Achieve your Goals podcast and to get access today's show notes, transcript and exclusive content from hal Elrod, visit Halelrod.com podcast thanks again for joining us. Be sure to tune in next week for another episode of the Achieve your goals podcast.