Lunchtime Live with Ally Love | Holly Furtick

Somebody that I am totally fangirling out to get to interview, and that is my favorite peloton instructor, Ali Love. So I know you are as excited to get to meet her as I am. I'm going to be taking your questions if they're good. I already have my own questions to ask if they're not good. But I'm going to be taking your questions, and we're going to chat with Allie and. And we're going to find out everything that we want to know from her, and it is going to be amazing. It's lunchtime live on the Holly Furtick YouTube channel, and I want to know who is up and who is joining us. While I'm waiting for your comments to come in, I will tell you that I think it was three Christmases ago, maybe four. I think three. And I had told my husband. My husband and I don't usually, like, say what we want for Christmas to each other, but this particular Christmas, I said to him, babe, what if you got me, like, an elliptical machine or something like that for Christmas? And he was like, cool. We never talked about it again. So couple months, weeks, whatever it was. Later, Christmas rolls around and I go downstairs. We have a little workout room in our basement and go downstairs thinking, I'm getting an elliptical machine and there is a peloton bike. Now, this was three years ago, and just so you know, I had never taken a group cycling class ever. And my husband took a risk and got me a peloton. Somebody had told him about it. This was before they were, like, super duper popular. And I. Okay, well, I was going to say I love it. I. Okay, I hate exercise. Do I have anybody? Oh, you guys are coming on, and I'm not listening to you. But hello to everybody watching Nishira from New York, Juana Jones. Sarah, Sonya Hudson. Hi, Sonya. Let's see, who else do we have? Shamika from Cleveland. All right, let me know in the chat. How do you feel about exercise? Because I feel like one of my friends says that there are two kinds of people in this world. Well, I guess three. There are dog people, and there are people who have dogs. And I guess the third person would be, like, people who don't have dogs. So when it comes to exercise, I feel like there are people who love exercise, like they just truly enjoy it and they do it, or they don't love exercise, but they do it. There would be your second person. Then there's the person who's like, I don't exercise. I'm just going to Be honest. I don't do it. So let me know. What do you think? Ali Moon. That's a cool name. From Pittsburgh. Faith Holden. From DC Anita Pfeiffer. A need a pifer. I went to college with a girl named Anita Pfeiffer. I don't think that's the same person. Elizabeth Nation. Jessie Hoke. Jamira. Patricia Bates. Okay, you guys are telling me now don't love it while I'm doing it, but love how I feel afterwards. I don't like how I feel after exercise either. I don't like it when I'm doing it. I don't like it afterwards. I get tired afterwards. I'm sweaty, I have to wash my hair or I don't have. Or like, I have to decide if I'm going to go change clothes or take a shower or be gross. I don't like it. I don't like how. I don't. I don't like exercise, but I do it because I need to do it right. All right, so what else are you guys saying? Andrea, Hello From Washington State. Urine said says she likes cardio. Somebody says, heart on fire says, I didn't like Peloton until I got stronger. I love it. Now, if exercise. Dana says, if exercising something I love to do, then, yes, I like exercise. So this you should just know about me. When I was a kid, I never played any sports. I never cheered. I never danced. I never really took gymnastics. My mom put me in swimming lessons every summer. I never got above the beginner class. I just. I just don't. I don't love getting sweaty, and I don't love running or whatever, but I need to be healthy and I need to exercise. So my husband got me the Peloton bike, and I had done some other group fitness stuff before. I had never taken a cycling class, and I really, really fell in love with somebody named Ali. Love. LD says I don't shower much, so exercising causes issues in my daily flow. That is funny. Somebody else Lou says, I'm with you. Somebody else says, I never played sports as a kid either, so. But I got on the Peloton, and I got to tell you, it's a great workout. It's short. You can do it for 30 minutes and feel like you got good exercise. And it does. Like, I think the one thing that I do love about exercise is it helps me to really just clear my mind if I have a lot of stuff on my mind. I'm worried about something or feeling anxious or feeling overwhelmed, and I get on that bike. And really, truly, I get to a point most times where all I can think about is staying on the bike. Like, my whole everything clears from your mind and you're just like, just keep breathing. Just keep pedaling. Don't die. You're not gonna die. Don't fall off. And there's something about that that is really. It's really invigorating, is really good for me, and. And it makes me feel. And when I say I don't really like how I feel afterwards, I do like the way it makes me feel about myself afterwards. And so let's see what else you guys are saying. Taylor says, I love to run and listen to worship music while doing it. Mr. Says, Short 10 minutes or less, please. LOL. Amy says, Motivation. Where do you find this? Well, one of the things that motivates me is I have a star chart in my. On the wall. My husband makes it for me. They just. He just prints it off somewhere, but it has all these empty stars. And so my goal is to get 200 workouts in the year. And we have the little stars, you know, that your teacher would have that you would put on the reading chart or the behavior chart or whatever. And I put a star for every time that I exercise for 30 minutes or more. And I try to get 200 by the end of the year. I think this year I had like 194, which is a win to me. I mean, 194. Law of, you know, when you learn in school, average, that's 200. So that's one of the ways I stay motivated. That's one of the ways that I know how much I'm being active and. Oh, I have a giveaway, right? I want to bring alliance because I have a million questions to ask her, but I have a giveaway today. So here's what we're giving away. In the keeping with the theme of exercise. We have this adorable little Adidas backpack, which Ali and Peloton have partnered with Adidas and doing some apparel. We can ask her about that.

We have a hydro flask.

Always good. We have a nice little shine hat. And we have some patches in here. We should put some. Do we have any stickers? We should put some stickers in here to. For your hydro flask. Surely we can find some. Mrs. Better have stickers. We'll stick in there for you. And I'm just gonna pick someone at the end. So you gotta stay on at the end and keep commenting. And I'll pick someone at the end and we will send this adorable little backpack full of goodies to you.

Okay.

My sister Emily is on, and she says close to the goal is close enough, which is true. And Emily used gold stars, which is the color that I use on my peloton chart. You guys are loving the bag. Are we ready to talk to Allie? I'm ready. Can we bring her on? Hi, Ali.

Hello. How are you?

I'm so good. Thank you for doing this. I'm so excited to get to talk to you and everybody else is, too.

I'm thrilled to be here. I'm excited for this lunchtime conversation. It is a joy to see you again.

I know. Did you eat lunch yet?

I had a protein shake, so I didn't have lunch yet. I kind of have it later in the day just because my days are really long. So I stretch it out a little bit.

Okay. What time did you wake up today?

So most days I wake up around six in the morning.

Okay, me too.

I'm an early bird. I'm like a person who, like, I don't press snooze. I get out of bed right away. I'm the person you love to hate. So, yes, okay.

Because I do press news. My alarm goes off at 6, not because I choose to, but because my kids have to be at School by 7:45. They are late. So. So we have to get up and get going. But I definitely press news at least twice today, so. What a lot of you don't know is I actually have met Allie before. I had. I don't know how we actually. Oh, we had a mutual friend who connected us. And a couple years ago, I was in New York City for a conference. And so I connected. I got all my girlfriends that were there with me at the conference. And I was like, guys, we're going to go do a pel. I'm going to go do a peloton ride. Who wants to go with me? And they all went, and I have a picture. We printed it off. This is my. My picture with you. I don't even know if you remember this. I do.

I remember the morning you all came in. It was. You know, I've been following you and Steven Furtick for a while. I found you through my morning rituals of getting ready for peloton classes. And then it was a time of, like, these are my early days of getting introduced to Elevation Church. And. And then you, like, messaged me and was, like, going to come in and I was like, this is exciting. I was really thrilled to have all of you in the front row. You were all holding it down in the front row. And I remember talking after class, but you all had to run because you have to go to a conference. So it was a brief exchange, but it was definitely one that was memorable for me.

It was really fun for me, too. You did a country music ride, which I don't usually take country music rides, but I loved it. I loved getting to be in the room. And this is kind of funny. I didn't remember my login, so I had to do my in person ride as a guest. And I was, like, so bummed that I didn't even get, you know, like, credit for my one live ride.

And now I don't know if you're.

Ever going to do live rides again. I'm sure you will, but it feels like never.

No, we will. You know, we're all in new space, so we're all figuring, right? Yes.

All right, let me. Let's just get to know you really quick. Tell me. I'm just going to ask you, like, a couple quick questions, like, what's your favorite food?

Favorite food is curry. Curry chicken or anything. Curry tofu. I love it.

Okay. And where did you grow up?

Miami, Florida. Born and raised in Miami, Florida. Came to New York to go to university, where I went to Fordham University.

Okay. Did you know that I also grew up in Miami, Florida?

I did not know that about you.

Really?

Yes.

So my dad was a pastor of a church for most of my childhood. So I lived in Miami from like 1982 to 1995. And so all of my childhood I lived there and my dad was a pastor, and then they. And then they moved. So Miami is an awesome place.

It is. It is. Your family? Everyone still lives there. I'm the only one who lives in New York. And oftentimes people have asked me, like, you know, how does it work? Does it compare? Both of them are still cities. Both of them, I would say definitely diverse in terms of culture richness and career expansion given depending on what you want to do. And yes, the biggest difference is the weather as we know it is definitely warmer in Miami than New York. But I love, I think the rhythm of New York, the pace of New York is definitely aligned with who I am and who I've grown to be.

That's amazing. All right, what do you like to do when you're not working out?

So fun fact is, I heard your whole spiel of I don't love working out, I don't love this. I don't love, like, getting all sweaty. What do I have to do this, all of that stuff. And I'm like, behind, like, muted laughing at you, because I'm not sure that the idea of working out, I'm not sure if people are just like, oh, my gosh, I love it so much. I think the concept of it is that you fall in love with it. It's always the unknown. And so as someone who oftentimes in the same boat as you, Holly, and many of those folks that are listening, where you're just like, do I really want to get on the tread today? Do I really want to get on the bike? Do I really want to get on the mat today? Sometimes it takes you practicing, right? Even on Sundays, going to church or just listening to the sermon, you're like, do I really want to listen to it? Do I really want. You feel like you could be doing so many other things, but the reality is, once you're in it, you're always grateful that you're in it. The hardest part is starting. And I always say everyone, and the hardest part is starting. And while a lot of people start, even fewer finish. So the fact that you're someone who's able to kind of get through it, I will say that is the territory, that is the fun dance that you do with fitness, is that you don't know how enlightened you will become. You don't know how much how it balances serotonin. You don't know these things until you just dive right in. But when I am not working out and I am not talking about fitness, which I will say is not my entire life, but a lot of things that we go through really is similar to how we approach a fitness class or how we work out or what happens during a workout or what's the post workout or the things we talk about later. It's very, I would say, duplicate or parallel to life itself. But when I'm not doing that, I'm probably reading or listening to an audible. That's, like, one of my favorite things to do. I'm obsessed with audibles. I feel like I need credits. You can't. Are you. Are you. I'm like, you can't buy a ton of credits because I'm like, all I want for my birthday is coming up. I'm like, audible credit. It's like, how do I get a lot of audible credit?

Oh, my gosh. I.

You just.

You just went to a whole nother level of friendship with me. I. Last night, just last night, I got an email from Audible, and they were like, it was Advertised like, are you sure you have the right subscription? Did you know they have a pay once and you get 24 credits for like they end up being like $9 a piece. And so I didn't have to look that up. 24 credits in one year. So what? I bet we don't listen to the same thing. You, what do you like to listen to?

So I do like to listen to more self help autobiographies. Like I love hearing people's story. I think the art of storytelling anytime for me, most of the sermons or most of the most memorable conversations I have are stories that are told. Whether they're personal stories, anecdotal stories, stories of the Bible stories are usually the easiest way for folks to understand concepts, virtues, applications. Right. And so I think for me it's the same way. Right now I'm listening to a book called the Second Mountain. It's talking about how we live our life on the first mountain, which is we need to be successful. We're working on this. You're thinking about I, that, that, that very Eastern concept of the individual. How do I become successful? What do I need? I need to protect myself. And it's like you live in this little. The first mountain of climbing that mountain of I just need to be the best I can be in my career. You work really hard, you spend all your time thinking about it. And so this book is your second mountain. And usually it happens maybe when you have a family or when something unfortunate happens and it's like you start thinking about the we. And in the Second Mountain it says that you're starting to really live. That's when life really begins. Is that when you are recognized, when you have recognized that you're a part of a collective, that you're part of a community. And that's where the best the beauty of life, like that's where life is instead of I need to do my career, I need to I. And it's like that's amazing.

That sounds like a good book. I love. My sister just said you should join our book club. I have a book club that we.

I know you do. I know.

So you would love the book that we are doing this month. It's called the Choice and, and this is like shameless plug for book club here. But it's called the Choice and it's by Dr. Edith Eva Eger and she is a Holocaust survivor who is still alive. And the thing that's really cool about her story is she most like Holocaust survivor type books are the majority of the book is about their time during like a concentration camp or whatever. Her story is only about a third of the book is her time during the concentration camp and the rest of it is her. Her struggle to overcome like PTSD and to build her rebuild her life. And it's amazing. And she, I'm telling you, you're going to love this book because she talks all about how being. Oh man, I'm not going to be able to remember. But she says becoming a victim is a choice. Being victimized is not your choice, but being a victim is your choice. And choosing to survive and choosing to live. It's amazing. You will love it. So I like books like that too. I love to learn through stories. I just think that stor invoke empathy and they make you think about how another live in another person's shoes. And I just, I love it. And I love, I love audible. That's amazing. Okay, so besides being a peloton instructor, what else do you do?

So I do. I always say that I forge the slash generation because I do multiple things. I enjoy being a peloton instructor and thoroughly enjoy also being the CEO and founder of Love Squad. We do women empowerment events now virtually where we bring our community out in real time. But of course, like I said, virtually. And we talk about things that have to do with women and their well being and then their career building skills. I think that all came about when I was young in New York City and I was just like, what do I want to do? I know that I want a career. I'm a dancer. I got a bachelor's in fine arts and I'm in the middle of my university training and I'm just like, what? What do I want to do with my life? And I didn't have anyone to ask in particular. And so I created this community and I was just like, you know what? I'm going to share the information that I know that works. Not pressing snooze, which is something I talked about, or how to turn a no into a yes, or how to find the yes in there somewhere. How to negotiate. And so it just kind of evolved over the last few years and I was able to create Love Squad. We have an apparel line. It's great. I'm also the host of the Brooklyn Nets. So we're just opening up the arena to bring people in. And So I host 41 home games, plus playoffs preseasons. I've been there probably seven or eight seasons at the Brooklyn Nets. I am an Adidas global ambassador. I know you mentioned that And Adidas and Peloton just launched a collection. Last week was the announcement. The collection comes up, I think this week that you're able to get it. But yeah, I've been with Adidas probably about six years. I've been a global ambassador and it's more about being a versatile athlete than being a vertical athlete. Most people think you have to pick one discipline and you have to do that really well, whether it's cycle or running. And we're versatile, multi dimensional, intersectional people. And so. So we talk a lot about that when I, as an ambassador for Adidas.

You are a very busy woman.

Yes, I would say. You know, what I started, Holly, I've been doing in the top of this year in 2021 is I move away from this word busy because I don't think busy is the same as being productive. I never wake up and I'm like, oh, my gosh, I have. So I stopped saying, I have so much to do. Everyone does. Omg. Every single person has so much to do. So I stopped feeding myself that narrative every then. I'm already tired before I start. So every day that I wake up, I look at my calendar. You know, you get yourself together or before I go to bed, I look at my calendar and I'm like, great. I have just the right amount to do today or tomorrow. I have just the right amount to do. And that's exactly how I look at my life. I'm not busy. I am productive because I have just the right amount of things to do today.

I heard somebody say one time, instead of when somebody says, you know, how are you? Instead of saying, oh, we're just, we're so busy. They say, my life is very full. And, and I like, I always try to say that and to say that to myself. Not busy, but I do have a full life. But full is good. I want to be full. I want to live a full life. So, ok, so you were a dancer. And how did you go from being a dancer and graduating from college? How did you find yourself at peloton?

So my Peloton journey kind of came sequentially through other things. Right. I always say you find your career two ways. Either you've known since you were a kid that you wanted to be a pastor, and nothing has taken you away from that idea of your career. Or like many people, you kind of just figure you're trying to figure it out along the way and people tell you what you're good at. So you have known since you were a kid. You're going to do this one thing or along the way, people tell you what you're good at. Like, hey, Holly, you know, you're really good at this. You know? And so for me, I am the. Yeah, I'm the ladder. Where people would say, allie, you know what you're really good at, you're really good at speaking. You're really good at this. And so it happened that way where I was modeling after, during college in New York City. And while I'm modeling, I'm like, okay, what am I going to do when I graduate? I'm a dancer, unfortunately. Which is one of the biggest, I'd say, pickles that I have or dilemmas or issues that I have, is that dancers are undervalued and underpaid. They are athletes that just like any other athlete, any professional athlete, they work just as hard, they put in the same amount of hours. They have to train themselves. They have to eat properly to do everything that athletes have to do, yet they aren't compensated fairly. And so as a backup dancer or as a dancer in general, you know, I knew that wasn't a life that I could pursue, unfortunately, because it would leave me being a starving artist. My family didn't have the means or the resources to say, go to New York. We got you. You know, it was like, okay, once you graduate, it's to put yourself in a position to get a job. And so that's exactly where I was. Like, I need to reframe how I'm thinking about my career. I don't necessarily need to give up what's important to me. Just need to step back and refrain it. So from there, I started taking commercial classes while I was in school. And during commercial classes, they offered hosting classes. And I said, you know what? I'm investing my, like, lunch money that I saved up doing babysitting in college into my career. I was like, I need to figure out, outside of just dance, what else do I love to do? I want to be on tv. They make money on tv. They make money in commercials. This will be natural for me. Natural progression. Offered a hosting class. Holly and I took a hosting class. And you interview folks. And I was like, wait a minute. This is what I am meant to do. This is what I'm made to do. I'm made to speak. You know what I love doing? I love. I'm social. I'm like, what do I want to do in my career or my life? I'm a social butterfly. How can I leverage what I'm really good at and what I love doing into and parlay that into a career. And that's exactly what happening. When I took that hosting class, I was like, aha, this is what I want to do. I emailed everyone. I created a real email. Everyone in my Gmail account was like, I will host your kids birthday parties for free. I just need experience. Like, I need to just like have something on my resume. I emailed everyone at the time the Brooklyn Nets were hiring. And a friend of mine who I danced with, she was working there and she said, we're looking for a host. Why don't you come in? They didn't even audition me for the job. The senior vice president, a woman, a minority, she was like, we need women up in the NBA. You've been in the NBA. I was a Nick City dancer too, during this time during college, doing every. I was doing the most. And she's like, you know how the NBA rolls. We've seen your reel. Do you want this job? And I was like, yeah, I want this job. So I took the job as the host of the Brooklyn Nets. That led into like Love Squad, me creating Love Squad, sharing all the things that I'd learned. And then that positioned me where people could see me doing a craft in public. And so that's when I, you know, I was, I started running at this time. I started doing hot yoga. I was still danc, but just everything working in harmony. And God just intervened and was like, you're gonna be a peloton instructor. And I was like, no, thanks, God, no. I'm not trying to be an instructor at all. One of my girlfriends who I met through being an Adidas global ambassador, she was like, allie Peloton, I work here. It's amazing you want to be an instructor. And I was like, no one wants to hear me teach. I have nothing to offer people of teaching. And she's like, no, just try it. And so I went in, I did an audition, a 15 minute audition. And fortunately enough, you know, these are the beginning days. They offered me the job two days later. I became a part of one of 11 instructors at the time. And it was one of the best decisions I had ever made. But it came, it stemmed from someone telling me, hey, you know what you'd be good at? You'd be good at hosting for the Brooklyn Nets. You know what you'd be good at? You'd be good at a peloton instructor. And so that's kind of how I arrived to peloton. And it's incredible.

Did you have any experience Cycling. Did you do group cycling classes or did you just be like, how hard can this be? I can get on a bike and talk at the same time.

Because I had athletic endurance and stamina because I was running. I started running and doing half marathons and then I was hosting, I knew camera work. They trained me. So when I, when I got the job, I did a six week training program on how to teach. I had cycled before because I was in New York City taking all the classes in between. You know, I worked at night now for the Nets. I'm doing small hosting jobs and modeling jobs and things with Adidas in the daytime, doing my little love squad events. And so in between that, I would take two workout classes, you know, fitness classes throughout the day. And I was like, this is, this is my life and I love it. And so they trained me. And so was then you have like a premier ride. I had my premier ride. And it's kind of like Holly, like you learn along the way. It's just like when you go into becoming a pastor and your first time preaching, you're like, I'm going to give this the good old college try. I'm going to go for it. And it's only through doing it in real time that you learn. It's only through hosting Nets games live that I learned from the mistakes. The same thing with peloton as an instructor. You just, you learn as you do it in front of people. It's so true.

And it's a really hard way to learn in front of people, but it's probably the best way. All right, so you love dancing, you're very active, you become a peloton instructor. You love music. So how has your love for music helped you become such a great peloton instructor?

Well, thank you for calling me a great peloton instructor. That's lovely.

Oh, my gosh, you're amazing.

I think you know what it is. I go back to what I, what I said in the beginning. It's storytelling. People love music. There is something around sound that can do something to your. To you physically and mentally without words. But then when you add a story that people can end up telling at the same time, right? The chorus of a song is just a story you repeat over. That's exactly what's happening. And I know you and Steven love music. He writes music and all these things. And I think it's connecting the emotion. There's a neuromuscular connection that happens when you clip in, right? Your body starts moving and then your mind is going. And that connection, which is where you want to live a lot of time in your life, when they talk about being present, that's being present is when your mind is connected to your body. Most of us don't get there because we leave our bodies behind. We don't get up and start moving. We don't hang upside down to get the blood flow. We don't do any of those things. We just lead with our minds. And so what ends up happening is there's a little bit of a disconnect, There's a slow response and reaction that happens, that occurs. So what ends up happening is, as I know that there's a neuromuscular connection that happens on the bike, physically and scientifically, and then there's a story being told in the music. I make sure that the sequence of the songs tell the narrative that I want to share in the ride. Whether I'm talking about, you know, what you know, I'll say the, you know, we're only as strong as our weakest link. And then there's a song about, you know, we say bossing up, having courage. Then it's a song about helping or helping folks. And then like, you know, I just sequence the song in that way where you're getting that entire story from, not from me, but from what you're listening to in the words. And so I've learned to love music for its many layers. Most of us just like, I like that song, right, because I was a dancer, I know where the beat is. But I also know there are many layers to a song and what it can do and the effect it can have in a class and then also just in life. And so I'm very thoughtful.

Talk me through how, what goes into putting a 30 minute ride together? How much, how much time do you put into it?

Where do you start?

Do you have someone that helps you select the music or figure out the timing of everything? Can you give me like a behind the scenes creating a ride?

Absolutely. A little peek behind the curtain is we do everything ourselves as an instructor. Unless it's a marquee series and it's a big moment. We do have our partnering teams like our music team will come in and just add support on however we need. Other teams will come in for support. But if you're thinking of our day to day job, my job every day is to create a class, no matter the duration. And it's more of thinking of what I want to bring to the bike. There's a level of humanity that goes into it right. I'm no better. Just because I'm on the stage or I'm the one talking during the class. I'm no better than you that's taking the class or who sometimes are just listening to the class. I'm no better. I go through hardships and so what I try to do always is to bring that to what I'm doing. We all want to have a sense of relief, release, and we want to have fun. And so including me. And so when I bring that in, depending on the ride type, I am strategic on which ride types I use to drive, what message, right? If it's a pop ride, it's going to be fun. It's just the party. The music's going to be bumping. We're here, we're going to focus on strength, endurance. So we're going to have heavier, longer climbs. So I think about those things and then I go ahead and put it together for other rides. Sometimes the music will drive it. I'll think of a word and I'm like, I want every song to have this one word in it and I'll find all songs. Think of a roadmap. I want to start flat, I want to climb. Maybe I'll have rolling hills. Right? You're going to climb valley, flat, climb. I think of the road that I, the terrain I want to create and then I put those, that music in order. I go ahead and create my class program and then I add on notes in between. I don't have a script, I don't have anyone in my ear. I literally am talking as I'm thinking, like whatever comes to my mind, I'm saying it, I'm sharing it in real time. And so.

But you have notes like on a computer or something reminding you what's coming or what you're doing.

Tablet. Yes. On our tablet we have our roadmap in the event you need it. Some people it just again, some people don't. Some people do. It just depends on how deep you want to get what you're trying to do. And so most times it's picking the music, establishing on the roadmap and then go ahead and adding any additional notes or any conversation starters that you want to add in there. And then you go out there and you do it. So how long does 30 minute ride takes a while?

How much time? Because I think about like when I make, when I create a sermon, how many hours it takes me to create a sermon. How long does it take you? And obviously you get faster at it the more you do it. But like to do a 30 minute or to do a Sundays With Love, how much time take, how much time does it take to do Sundays with Love?

So I say on the spectrum of things that I teach, I would say the fastest class that I could probably put together if we were in a rush and they need a class right away would be a Tabata or a pop ride, the longest class. And that'll. And that probably could take me like, you know, if I had to do it, I could do it in 15 minutes. But no, like that would be just like we're in a crunch. But for the most time that takes like an hour to an hour and a half. A Sundays with love takes like five hours because you're thinking of, you have 30 minutes. It's kind of like when you are taking a run, you get, I always say the first three miles is, is the time you get all the trash out of you, right? All of the negative self talk. Why am I doing this? This hurts, this sucks. Once you get past three miles, it just becomes there's a flow that you get that you tap into. So even with Sundays with Love, when I start doing it, I start writing everything out. It becomes too much to fit in 30 minutes and then I have to edit it down and say, okay, why does this matter? What's important? What's a priority? And so yeah, it takes five hours. And those five hours aren't concentrated. It actually is throughout the week and sometimes even longer, depending on the virtue. Because I spend so much time sitting with, with information. I'm researching, I'm reading, I'm audible, maybe I'm listening to an audible and it'll say something about confidence or courage or being bold. And I'm like writing that down and like everything. So I would say a spectrum of like anywhere from an hour to two hours to five to eight hours, given the class type.

I mean you can tell, you can tell that you put a lot of work into the Sundays With Love. And those are my favorites. I also just, just in case you're wondering, I also love your 90s rock rides and I love all the rock rides, so. 70s, 80s, 90s and I. And I've never taken a Tabata ride.

You have to take it. It's scary. It's scary. Is it that?

Because yes, it's scary. I just, I don't know, I just, I can't do all that and. But I can see it is amazing to be able to have a workout program where you can so obviously track your progress and so and to see how much stronger I've gotten over the last three years and to be able to feel that sense of accomplishment is really great for somebody like me who doesn't. Who doesn't really like to exercise. I don't really like to exercise with people, so I feel like I'm with you, but that's all. I don't do the. I always turn my leaderboard off because that stresses me out. And so anyway. Okay, so I'm going to ask you something, and you don't have to answer this question. Okay. But I feel like of all the people who do peloton rides, this is the question that we all want to know. When you say your.

Your.

Okay, what is it? Cadence and resistance. When you say your cadence should be 80 to 90 and your resistance should be 40 to 60, are you actually doing that? Because if you're not, I'm totally okay with that because you also have to talk and do this at the same time. So can you answer this question?

The answer is yes. Every instructor is give what? What? It's just like a strength class. Or when we give you that range, we're there with you. There is certain times where we may not be there with you, which is a natural time. If someone is not feeling well. Like, you know how you're like, something doesn't feel right, or you may have eaten before you've gotten on the ride and you're like, hey, my stomach is a little uneasy. I got to make it another 20 minutes. You may lighten that. And you got to work the resistance. Exactly. You may make some alterations, but for the most part, if it's not within those parameters of either you have an injury you need to take care of, or you feel something happen in the middle of the ride, or you just feel like, oh, my stomach is not feeling so good. You may modify, which is what we encourage our community to do. If you're ever in that position, you always want to modify. So we will take our own advice, but I would say for the most. So 98% of the time. Right. 99% of the time, we're right there with you. However, here's the upside. The upper hand that we do have is that there is a level of adrenaline. Just like when you get on stage and you start preaching like, there's something that just, like, takes over you. I often say it's like when I black out, like, you. It takes over you. You get excited. You can push a little harder. You're talking like, there's just something that happens where your body, there's a chemical reaction where your body's able to produce and meet the standard that is required in order to teach. There are many moments in the pre show where I'm just like, I don't know how I'm going to do this today. I just don't know. I mean getting up at like, I'm like, I've been up at 4:30 to teach a 45 minute Tabata ride. It's 5:55 and at 6am we're going here. And I'm like, I don't know how this is going to go down. Like, you know, you just don't know. But once that camera goes on and they give you the cue to go and you see the community on that leaderboard, like I'm not alone. Number one thing that I think most people that gets most people in a place where they start to feel live in that darkness a little bit too much is that, and we know this. Like they often say, like idols time is the devil's workshop. Like the devil wants to isolate you. So you feel, I'm by myself. No one is going through this. No one's going to understand. It's that individuality that we often promote but also can be detrimental mentally where you're just like, oh, I'm the only one, I'm the only one, right? And the reality is oftentimes I can think that as well. Before I get on the ride, I'm like, oh my gosh, how am I going to do this? No one's probably feeling this but me. And I see all those folks on the leaderboard and I'm just like, hold up, wait a minute. I am not alone. I am not alone in this feeling. And that's how I talk about it in the ride. I'm like, if you hate me right now, you are doing this ride correctly. I hate in the lightest sense of the word, as a joke. But like I don't like myself right now. Why did I do this to me? You know, like, just because it's true. It's one of those things where it's just a reminder, no matter how hard it is, how uncomfortable it is, you are not by yourself. You are not alone.

I totally can feel that when, when you finally get, get on the bike and you're right, the hardest part is starting. But then once you're on it, you're like, I can do this. Ali says, I can do this, I can do this. And I think everybody, whether you're a peloton instructor, you're a stay at home mom or whatever field you work in. Everybody has that, that dread of doing their job and everybody has days where they don't feel like it. But I think the goal in life is to find a job where when you're actually, when you finally get there and you're actually doing it, you're like, yeah, I like this. I love this. How does faith. This is my sister Emily. She's watching and she loves you. She has a peloton. And so she put this question, how does faith play a part in your job?

It plays a part in everything that I do. I think that that's the only way I know how to live. Sometimes it is really. I will be completely candid here and say it is challenging to live your life so publicly. It is a choice. So that's one. And it's a choice that I've obviously chosen. But it does come. It's a double edged sword where it does come with some challenges, right? Where people get to where you're exposing. Especially in something like Sundays with Love, where I'm exposing my faith and I'm exposing. And not that in other rides you can't see it, but I think because of the way the ride is, you know, I say it's spiritually grounded, it's a celebration of life and it's thought provoking and the virtues and the stories that I share. I think that it puts you. It puts me in a position for folks to question, well, why or why not? And sometimes, you know, in the most I assume sincere way is, well, that wasn't enough and that was too much. Right. That people get to decide for me what was enough or what wasn't enough. And so I think faith comes in and I would say two parts. I have no choice because I've chosen to be public. And I think that this is my calling, is to be the person that is the leader, is to be the mouthpiece. I have no choice but to lean closer into God because it is challenging and I cannot. There's nothing in my mind that will ever let me engage with a narrative that said God put me here to fail, or God put me here to hurt, or God put me here to just come this far and then all of it's going to crumble. Like I have to lean into that strong arm of faith. The second part of the faith is sincerely the abilities that I have. Right? These are gifts. These aren't, these aren't. It's hard to do the things that I do. While we all make the Things we do in life. Easy. Y' all make being mothers look like, wow, you're so good at that. You're a natural, you know, and behind, you know, that sneak peek behind the curtain, you're like, I have no idea what I'm doing. Like, is this right? You start questioning everything. And so the same thing is there are many moments where I'm questioning my ability, my skill set, and again, I have to lean into the faith of that these talents that I possess are by design. God gave them to me by design, and I need to make sure that I'm nurturing them. Not for me, again, going to this. I'm just reiterating this book, the Second Mountain, not for me, but where eventually that I want to be in life. And so it comes with a social responsibility. It comes with some days crying, you know, like, it's not always easy where, yeah, in front of the camera, you're smiling, and some days you're just like, oh, my gosh, like, that was really emotional. Or, you know, wow, this is a lot. This can be a lot. But it is what I think that I'm destined to do. And I lean into that in terms of I need to have these talents and the faith of these. Like, my faith in the talents that God is giving me is where my strength is. And then my endurance is knowing that outside of that, outside of me, outside of what I'm doing, he didn't bring me this far just for this far. So we need to, you know, I need to make sure that I'm. I'm also encouraged by that as well.

I think one of my favorite things about you is how. Well, for one, just based on the things that you share on the bike, it's pretty obvious that God was building in you all along, the abilities and the skills and the talents that you would need to be so great at this. So, you know, your background in dance and your. And you obviously, your faith background and your ability to talk and how much you love music, how music was like, you share all the time. Music was just a part of your home and a part of your life. And so it's just. It's so cool to see someone where you can. Where you can actually look back and see, like, all of the pieces of the puzzle we're coming together to lead up to you being able to do this. But I think that. I think that's really amazing. But then I also think one of my favorite things about you is how you're not. You're just.

You're.

You feel like you're completely yourself and that your faith is a part of you. And I think it gives people the courage to know, well, I don't have to be a pastor or a worship leader or a youth pastor, or be a part or be paid church staff to be able to incorporate my faith into my job and into what I do.

And I don't.

And you don't always directly talk about, like, you don't talk about, I don't know what, what church you go to or what church you grew up going to or you don't have to talk about those things. But it's obvious that you have a relationship with God and that comes from through. And I think that that encourages people in their own faith journey and to just see that it's just, it's so, it's just such a huge part of who you are. And it's one of the things that just really draws me and I think so many others to your classes.

So.

And then the other thing that I love about you is just your energy and how you're just always seem to just bring the energy that I need in that moment to keep me going. So how do you sustain that energy? This is like a big question. So how do you sustain that energy? How do you energize yourself when you feel like everybody always wants you to energize them? And how have you had to manage your own energy over the last year when there's no longer any people in the room? I mean, there's people on a computer screen and you know they're there, but there's nobody for you to actually see in the room. And how do you manage all of that?

Yes, energy is currency, right? It is. Time is the most valuable thing you have, and the energy is the currency that you're able to give away during that time. And so I think for me, as I think about my life, I. Nine years old, I got hit by a car. I almost died. This is, this is my story. This was my introduction, not my introduction. My grandfather was a pastor. We grew up in the church. My mother is, she is on the spectrum of religion. She's closer to that, like, very religious person. That's how we grew up. My dad was very like, okay, sure, like super chill kind of folk. And so nine years old, when I got hit by a car, my mom came to me and she was like, in order to live, you need to pray to God. God has to save your life, not me. There's nothing I can do. Like, this is. And so it Was that set the foundation of my journey with Christ. And so in the church, you know, I was just, like, grateful that God saved my life. Like, I prayed and I prayed and I prayed and God saved my life. And I fought and I was in this place. Then it got to a point where. And we talk about this energy and we talk about what really, where does it come from? It got to this point, Holly, where I was in high school, and just like any teenager, I don't want it. Well, not all. I don't want to stereotype all teenagers. But it got to the point in those formative years where I was like, why do I believe who is God? Like, what? What. Why are we doing this? Why do we have to go? Like, there are many great folks out here that don't have to do this, that aren't doing what we're doing, so why do we? And then it also came along where there was this area of, like, superiority, of, like, well, we. Because we believe this. There's. And I didn't really love that. I didn't subscribe, and I didn't want to subscribe to, like, oh, there's an elite, and then there's everyone else. And I'm just like, hold up. Like, I don't know. Not that I knew what I've known of God at that time. I was like, I'm not sure he's going to create everyone. Where it's like, these are it. And everyone else is just, you know, I was like, that doesn't sound nice. And so I set out on my journey. When I went to university, I went to a Jesuit university. I grew up in a Baptist church, went to a Jesuit university, which is Catholic teaching, and you have to take a theology class. It wasn't by design that I went to a Jesuit university. I just. That school gave me a lot of money. It was in New York City. I love the teaching and all that stuff. And so it ended up being where I learned so much. I started taking these theology classes, but I started exploring why do. My biggest question in life, and this is again, going to come back to energy and how we expend energy. My biggest question was, why do we believe what we believe? Why, like, how was I born? And then they're like, God is like, you're going to believe this and this person's going to believe that. And so end up happening where I was taking, like, Islamist mysticism, I was taking Sufism. I was learning about the Catholic teaching. I was going to Mass because I never understood. My dad grew Up Catholic. I didn't know what it was. I wanted to see it. And so I started taking these theology classes. There was incredible conversation in those classes, and it took. It drew me to this point and to your point. You made it something that I haven't thought of, so thank you. Of how I was being shaped. Now I think about it. Shaped to do what I'm doing currently in those classes, there were so many differences of opinions and teachings and thoughts that it put me in a position to say this. My job isn't to exclude or to kind of, how do you say, categorize people. That's not my job. My job is to make a space, to hold space for everyone to show up. No matter what you believe, it is for you to show up. My job at Peloton is that when I think of Sundays with love, so when I think of having energy, when I know why we believe what we believe, why it is okay for us to believe different things and still share a workout class together, how I can apply my energy is now focused. I am not just throwing it out to the wall and sing with sticks. It's like, no, I have a job to do, and I love my job. I have a social responsibility as a fabric of this community, and I love that. And I know my calling. I may not know exactly what my purpose is every step of the way of my life, but I know my calling, right? It's to make sure that what I do and who God is shines through everything. And for you to know, you're welcome. You are invited in this room. You can dissent at anything that I say or any teaching, but the conversation needs to happen. Because the catalyst for change is conversation. If you are in. If you're on a spectrum where you're evangelical and you're like, my job is to convert folks. How does it happen? Through conversation and for them experiencing you. Okay, I am not here to say you have to do this or you have to do that. And so when I think of my energy and my bandwidth. Bandwidth and energy is finite. However, when it comes to doing what I am set on this earth to do, I have more of it. I have. Well, I would say not even more. I have enough. I have enough to show up. And. And that's where it comes from. I get excited to have this conversation today. I'm like, oh, great. I'm excited. I don't have more energy than you. I just am in a position where I'm like, here's where my energy is going to go. I don't put it other places I don't have friend drama. Like, I don't do any of those things. Like, I don't have any of those things. I have conversations and I put energy on that bike or income in these moments of meeting new folks. And so and another. And then to answer your question of the conservation of energy is most times. And I learned this through my fiance Andrew. We were talking about prayer. And it's always like we petition in prayer. You know, obviously it's great to pray for other people, but you always. Not you. But like, in general, growing up, I was kind of taught to ask God for everything. And sometimes when we talk about people say meditation and prayer are different, sometimes they're the same. And I talk about this in the basics of bossing up for some the of folks. And the reason is instead of petitioning every time you're in that moment with Christ or in that moment with God or you in your moment of prayer or even just giving thanks, are you just being. And I think the ability that I have to just be. When you can call a meditation, call, pray, call it the same thing, just be in the presence. I think that in the middle of the day, I'll take 10 minutes, I'll take two, and I'll just close my. And I'm just there. I'm like, I'm here. Like, it doesn't. There's no. I'm just. I'm going to be there. And it fills me back up. And so I think that that's how I kind of replenish throughout the day when it can be a very productive day.

So do you ever get down?

Absolutely. My gosh. I deal with anxiety. I deal with many of the things that I can. Maybe you or other folks that are listening where you are so public and you feel like, you know. Kyrie Irvin did an interview two days ago, and he was saying, you know, that he's there. No longer are the days where he needs to worry about what other people think of them. And getting to that point takes time. And so, yes, I work, you know, sometimes I worry what people think of me or did I do a good job. And so all of that can play a role on my emotions. But I think the reality is that my resistance is joy and always finding that joy. And so I try to do that. But there are many times that I deal with, you know, being anxious or feeling overwhelmed or feeling not good enough or feeling less confident than I do because I'm only human, which isn't a curse, but a Gift. And that's what happens.

Do you ever struggle with body image?

So I think that it was very much a part of how I grew up as a ballet dancer. And I think that it is something that, how do you say, I try not to feed good or bad, positive or negative, in a form of a conversation. It's not neglecting, it's not burying my head in the sand. It's just giving no life to the concept of a body that works so hard just to be alive. And so most times in the moment of getting into a space where you're feeling like, ah, about yourself, about myself, I just remind myself that the capabilities of the body to heal, to breathe, for me to just be and it functions, I have to be grateful. There, there is some grace that I have to give myself and there's the gratitude that I have to show myself physically.

So what would you say to someone who is trying to make fitness a part of their everyday routine, but they really, they're really struggling to do that?

This is something that I learned growing up in college is that if we take something we love to do and the application of that and apply it to something that we don't love to do yet, it becomes easier to digest. For example, if you're in school and you love like social studies or geography and the way you learn that, if you can take that to math class, even though they're different in like how you learn it, it's easier. If you're a dancer and you love modern dance, if you can approach the way you pick up the steps for modern dance and how open you are to that and you approach it at ballet that way, there's something that you break down. There is a fear factor that you let go. There is a roadblock that you let go. So when we talk about fitness, a few things is one, try to break down what you think of fitness. Fitness isn't grueling. You have to sweat a bunch, you have to be breathless. You have to do all these things that are so hard. That's not what fitness is. That's not what working out is. This morning I took a walk plus run, 20 minute class. Could I have taken a 30 minute run, a 45 minute run? Could I have gotten breathless? Absolutely. What I needed to do today was just get on. I just was like, I need to jump the hurdle. So it's breaking down. Redefining what fitness looks like, find something you love doing. That's the most important thing. The second thing is eliminate all obstacles on how to get there. So if you like a workout that's way too far, try to find a workout you love that's close. When we can't go out in public or you know, obviously download the Peloton app and you can take it right away. The third thing is do shorter durations. You do not have to sweat a bunch to see the benefits of working out. That means yoga would never like non hot. Yeah, non hot yoga would never be a thing. Right. Just because you're not like drenched and sweaty and breathless, it doesn't mean that physically it's not beneficial. It is super beneficial. So get away from that idea or the ideology of this has to be hard. I have to hate it for it to work. No, go ahead. Shorter, lower intensity. And you implement it in the mornings. If you are not a morning person, I understand you might be like, nah, but get up, put on your workout clothes. After you pray, meditate, put on your workout clothes and just get it done. 15 minutes, 20 minutes, what do you have? That is the only way that it will put yourself in a position. And again, I kind of go back, Holly, to what I said about fitness and working out and subscribing to a healthy lifestyle. It is a lifestyle, it is on and off course. So if you are off course right now, that is ok. Every person gets there. Now all it is is get back on course. You're going to be able to run further and faster some days, some days you can only run shorter, slower. That's life. Just as much as some days are good versus some days are bad. That's what and I often say this in the pandemic, by definition, if every day was good, then no definite by definition, no day is good. By definition of every workout is hard, by definition no workout is hard. So it can't be all you need. All you need the vary the variance of everything for it to be a thing.

So what do you think is the biggest mistake that people make when it comes to health and wellness?

I think I don't want to say mistake but I will say one of the things to demystify and debunk is that it looks one type of way. I learned this during the pandemic that self care when people are like just have a eat this or have this or like get a facial that, all of a sudden my soul's going to feel better. And I was like, no, I'm still sad. I don't feel like, I don't still feel like I've taken care of self. And so it's like demystify what does that work? What works for you is not what's going to work for me. The workout that you choose to do is not going to be what you. What works for me. Finding what works for you during. Through trial and error. It's like finding the church that works for you. Some people go to church, I don't like it. But then you go to another, like, oh, my God, I love it. Right? You have to try a few things. You're like, oh, I don't know, how do you take your eggs? You got to try all of the other ways to know you don't like it. So it's the same thing with, like, just demystifying. You have to find what works for you in taking care of yourself. Audibles may work for us, but sitting down reading may work for you. Or it's a luxury you can't afford either way, and you're like, you know what? I'm just going to listen to music. So I think that that's what it is, is that most of us are too busy for our own selves. We never take time. We say we'll do that one day. We never take time to figure out what we love. How do you expect your partner on the most basic level to make you feel good if you don't know what makes you feel feel good? You know, like, how do you expect that? We teach our kids, Use your words. Tell me what you want. Tell me what you think. Hey, friend, knock on the door. Adults, use your words. Tell me what you want. Tell me what makes you feel good. That is how you apply it to your health and wellness. Try some things. You're not going to like everything, but you'll figure out what makes you feel good.

Yeah. Thank you for just being so real. And I think one of my favorite things that you said was that you get sad and you get anxious because I think there's just this misconception that people have that if I could look like Ally Love, then I would be happy. I would. I can't. Like, she must be the. She must be happy because she's so beautiful.

But.

But happiness, it can't come from the outside. And I feel like you don't make people feel that way. And it's just. It's truly one of my favorite things about you.

Thank you so.

Thank you.

One of the things, One of the things I will leave you with. This is so two things. This is something that I've been thinking about is like, happiness is that individual mindset is like the one off Things like, you feel happy when you're by yourself or you do something and you get accomplished. Joy is when you're a part of a community, right? Joy comes, and that's ever everlasting. And the second thing I will say is, I come. And I often think of this in those moments of my dark times, is that if we put all of our troubles on a table or we all stepped in a room of who's all going through something in the dark, and you turn on the light to see who's there, you'd be shoulder to shoulder with many people. And you take back your problems. And the same thing is like, my problems are my problems. And they're. You know, they all. We've heard the adage of, God won't put more on you than you can bear. And people are like, well, I'm broken. It's like, okay. It's one of these things where. Just recognize. And this is what I tell myself all the time, especially in those nervous, anxious moments of, oh, my God, I'm about to go on camera, Holly. Oh, my God, I'm gonna do this. You are the best person to do the job right now. That's it. You are literally the best mom these children can have right now in this time of life. And that's it. You're the best person to get on camera. You're the best person to go in and make this presentation. There's no one in that room. There's no one qualified in the world at this moment in time to do the task that you're doing except you. No one can handle your problems but you the way you can right now in this moment in life. And that's what I remind myself.

I think that one of the secrets to your success is that you have figured out how to preach to yourself. And I think a lot of times it's tricky because we want. We. We want other people to make us feel a certain way. And we depend on whether it's our spouse or our friend and. Or our exercise instructor or whatever, we depend on other people's energy to make us feel the way we think we want to feel. But I think growing up is sort of coming to a place where you say, the only person I can change is me. The only person who can make me happy, truly experience joy is me. And learning how. How to preach to yourself, and that's what you do. And. And it's so inspiring, and I'm so grateful to be able to have this conversation with you. I have questions that we didn't even get to. But, you know, thank you. Thank you for making me sing. I love. I. I found this video that I sent to my husband of me. I always. I sometimes send him videos of me on the peloton, of me singing Wilson Phillips while I was on the bike. But you just. You really. Your.

Your.

Your inspiration is. Comes. It just. It just. The joy just comes out of you, and it just radiates from you. So thank you.

Well, thank you. Thank you for having me. And I will say I'm going to give a shout out. There's another peloton instructor, Selena Samuela, who, like, she was. She texted me. She's like, oh, my gosh, you're having a conversation with Holly. You don't recognize this, but Elevation Church is a part of our Sunday conversation. We teach at the same time. And so every sermon, whether it's you or Steven who has a sermon, we talk about it every Sunday before we. She gets on the tread or the mat and I get on the bike. And so you are a part of not only my career, but also my home in terms of how I. You know, when I talk about audibles, I listen. I probably listen to every sermon, which I'm like. I'm. I'm the person who's like, I need more content. I listen to every sermon that is on your. On Spotify. Through Spotify. I listen to all of them. And so I just want to thank you. I want to thank what you. Elevation Church, like, all of that you've all had done, because it impacts people so far away, which, you know, but it impacts and positions me. So when I do clip in or when I do have to step on the mat, that I feel confident, that I feel, you know, that God is with me, that this is on the days that I. Those bad days are down days, not bad days. Those unknown days that is this. I am in my purpose. I am in a position. And so even the guest passes that you all bring, thank you for being thoughtful around that because it does go a long way. I appreciate it.

That makes me so happy. Okay, really quick, I'm gonna have you pick our winner. So while I'm talking, be looking through. We're gonna pick a winner who's been on with us to win our little giveaway. So while I'm talking, find someone to pick and then also let us. I want you to tell everybody how they can follow you and all of that. So first, pick our winner.

Wait, how do I do that? I'm on the.

I don't see anyone oh, she's not on YouTube.

I am, but I don't. Wait, hold on. You know, I've been on, on my phone this whole time and then I'm just like, oh, where do I find.

So can you see? You can't see the comments? I just assumed you could see the comments.

I can't see us, but I cannot. Okay, but I cannot see. But while you're picking the winner, I will say, yeah, Ally Ms. Love on Instagram, I have a series. When you're talking about, it's called the basics of Bossing Up. Talking about those practical things that we all can do, it gets overwhelming.

I have.

I mean, I feel like you. And I also need to offline. I text you a couple months ago. Like, I have so many questions for you. So. But yeah, Ali misslove on Instagram Love Squad is ovsquad. And obviously I would encourage you if you're on your fitness journey, no matter where you are, download Peloton app, try a couple of the classes. There are so many more modalities from running audio only outside. If you have a tread or access to a tread safely during this time, you can take tread classes, cycling classes on our bike or on any other bike. And of course, yoga. You have bar, you have Pilates, you have stretch classes. All this. Yay. Bar is now live, everyone. We just announced it before I got on here with you. Every Wednesday, 5:30, I'm alternating, I'm live, so I'm doing a women's history bar class live, 5:30 Eastern Time on Wednesday. So if you don't catch it live, just catch it on demand. Pm. Pm. No, I know you're like, hold up. Let me actually clarify that. PM people. Yeah, people will be like, Ali would do a 5:30am in the morning. No, you in the evening. Yes. So every Wednesday going forward.

That's amazing. I love your bar. So Love Squad, it doesn't cost money. We just follow you on Instagram and.

Newsletters and then we do like virtual events. We'll have guest speakers come in. It's a lot of great information. And again, it's all about being as inclusive as possible. My job isn't here to isolate people. Right. Put you in a group, bring everyone is through conversation. That is the catalyst for change. And so that's how you get people in, in different places and the places they want to be.

So we find it at Alimisslove on Instagram and all the information, you can just click all your little bios and all that.

Yep. Okay, all that.

So we're going to give our. Our little gift away to Ali Moon because she's been on the whole time. She's been super active and she spells her name a L, I and then Moon and Ali. Well, what are we doing? Where. Where? Contact. She's. What do we need her to do? Allie, put your email in the chat and we will reach out to you and Ali. Love, I hope this is the first of many conversations that we can have because I have just offline online. We can do it in front of people or not in front of people. I just really love getting to know you. Been amazing. And you, you are a gift. You're a gift to so many. Thank you.

Yes. Thank you so much. And thank you to your team for making all this happen. Folks that are on, thank you for listening. I will say this is a call to action. Share something that you've heard here with anyone, share it with someone else. That's. That's what we want, is that you share something that you are like. I like that. Text it to a friend.

Yep. All right, Allie, thank you. Love you.

Love you, too. Bye, Holly.

Bye.