In this YouTube short, Jason M. Lemkin raises a macro‑level concern that the total pool of capital—on Earth and even Mars—could eventually be exhausted by the rapid scaling of AI companies. He cites the recent comments from the Anthropic CEO about needing to accept funding from the Middle East, framing it as a dilemma between ethical purity and financial necessity. Rory responds by grounding the discussion in data: AI capital expenditures (CapEx) for data centers now represent about 1.2% of global GDP, a slight increase over the 1.1% of GDP spent on bandwidth during the 1999‑2000 dot‑com boom. He then compares this to the 1840s railroad mania, which peaked at roughly 6% of GDP. Rory notes the key distinction that railroad infrastructure is a long‑lasting asset (≈150 years), whereas AI infrastructure is expected to appreciate and become obsolete within a few years. The conversation ends with both hosts acknowledging that the numbers allow an optimist to feel reassured while a nervous observer can still see cause for concern, highlighting the tension between growth optimism and capital‑exhaustion risk.
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The bigger issue is when will all the capital on Earth and Mars be exhausted? And I actually think the meta issue, you know, the, the, the CEO of Anthropic had this thing this week where he was explaining, 'cause they're, they're supposed to be the good guys, right? This, we left OpenAI to build something safer and he's explaining why we have to take money from the Middle East now. I don't know if you saw this, right? He is like, we have no choice. Yeah. We, his point, I guess the flip side is he didn't want to, that, that this was lowering their eth, their, their pristine ethical values. To take money from the Middle East. But his point was we have no choice, right? I think the bigger issue isn't $800 billion because people are invested. The bigger issue is when will all the capital on Earth and Mars be exhausted? And there is— that is a finite number, right? It is a finite number. You know, you know, Trump has already been lassoed into Stargate with David Sack. I mean, Rory can help me figure this out. There is at some point OpenAI could consume all available capital available to it in the Western world and the Eastern world.
Let's talk about a more nuanced version of that because I do— it's actually an interesting question. And I think Paul Krugman did a piece, right, which is just looking at the CapEx investment in AI as a percentage of GDP and comparing it to two other booms, right? The dot-com boom and the railway boom in the 1840s. I love that because again, I was trying to think through what are the comparables and those are And the railway track analogy is a good one. So we're running now at about 1.2% of GDP, which is basically 1.2% of GDP is going into making CapEx data centers, which is a little above the 1.1% of GDP that was going into bandwidth at the top of the '99, 2000. So we were already slightly bigger than the bandwidth boom. And we know where that ended. Interestingly, and I did not know this, it was 6% of GDP in the railroad era a year. So at peak railroad mania, it went to 6%. Now, as they pointed out, in that case, you were building an asset that lasted 150 years. And in fact, just today did a huge acquisition. Whereas in this case, you're building an asset that appreciates over 3 years. So it's not like with like, but just to kind of give a sense of the outer bounds, to your point, Jason, of how crazy could this get, right? We're already a bigger boom in terms of CapEx than '99, 2000. But we're nowhere near as big as boom as the railway boom. The pleasing thing about that answer is it allows both parties to continue to feel great. If you're a nervous guy like I sometimes am, you're like, shit, this is crazier than '99, 2000. Makes me nervous. The internet was big. Don't know. If you're an optimist, you're like, hey, we're only spending one quarter of what we spent to build the railroads and intelligence is better than railroads, surely. So we're fine.