Elon Musks New Interview Reveals A.I in 2025

So Elon Musk had a rather stunning interview in which he discussed the future of artificial intelligence. It's been a while since we've had Elon Musk give us his thoughts and ideas. So I'm going to do a deep dive on this interview and explain to you many of the things he spoke about. So in one of the first clips, Elon Musk actually talks about how AI's capabilities have been rapidly expanding over the last year. And he gives his predictions for the year 2025, which is with what he thinks AI will be able to do. And I've got to say, it is a little bit concerning, but also quite exciting.

I think at this point, it's obvious to everyone that AI is advancing at a very rapid pace. Yes, you can see it with the new capabilities that come out every month or every week. Every week sometimes. You know, AI at this point can write a better essay than probably 90%, maybe 95% of all humans say, write an essay on any given subject. AI right now can beat the vast majority of humans. If you say, draw an image, draw a picture, it can draw, like, if you try, say, midjourney, which is the aesthetics of midjourney are incredible, it will draw, it will create incredible images that are better than, again, like 90% of artists, objectively the case. And it'll do it immediately, like 30 seconds later. We're also starting to see AI movies. We start seeing short films with AI, AI music creation. And the rate at which we're increasing AI compute is, is exponential, hyper exponential. So there's dramatically more AI compute coming on online every month. You know, there seems to be roughly, I don't know, the amount of AI compute coming online is increasing at like roughly 500% a year. And that's likely to continue for several years. And then the sophistication of the AI algorithms is also improving. So we're bringing online a massive amount of AI compute and also improving the efficiency of the compute and what. And like what, what the AI software can do.

This clip was actually rather fascinating because this touches on something that a lot of people, I don't think they understood when reading the document Situational Awareness. Now, if you're unaware about the document called situational Awareness, this is essentially a document that slash is a PDF that was widely controversial as it makes some bold claims about the future of artificial intelligence. One of those claims is that it says, as we get into the future, there's going to be numerous different points of acceleration for AI. And some of those are the increasing compute Capacity as well as the ability for algorithms to get even more efficient. And this is exactly what Elon Musk is talking about. I'm not saying he's referring to that article document, but what I am saying is that he's also reiterating what others have said and I know some people have tried to quote, unquote, debunk that document. But it's quite clear as day that we are seeing consistent efficiency gains as well as an increased level of compute with regards to these different AI systems and their capabilities.

So it's quantitative and qualitative. So I think next year you'll be.

Able to ask AI and what he actually said there before I cut off this clip is that you'll be able to ask AI to essentially make a movie for you. And that's around 10 to 15 minutes. And I do believe that there are companies that are working on that stuff and it's not going to be long before we get that level of quality and coherence. I mean, it was only the other day that we literally got Meta's Moviegen, which is remarkable. Although it's quite expensive, I do think that the cost will come down in the future as efficiency gains are made and as more compute comes online. Now in this next clip, this is where Elon Musk actually talks about how Grok3 is going to be in terms of the capabilities and a few things that he's working on.

Now if like optimization is probability, misgendering is zero, no humans, no misgendering, problem solved.

Now we're back to Arthur C. Clarke, who's pretty prescient.

Yes. So that's why the most important thing is to have a maximally truth seeking AI. That's why I started xai and that's our goal with grok. People will point out cases where GROK gets it wrong, but we try to correct it as quickly as possible.

So if you didn't know, GROK is Elon Musk's chatbot that he's been working on with X AI and one of the things that he actually has said that was pretty crazy was that he hopes that this model is going to be the best AI by the end of the year. So it will be quite interesting to see if that does happen. I know that there is likely to be Gemini too, Claw 3.5, Opus potentially, and maybe even Google's Orion or GPT5. So there's some fierce competition in the AI markets right now. Now this is one of the more interesting clips because this is where he actually talks about super intelligent AI and the risks that come with that. Now Elon Musk has spoken about this on a lot of occasions. Several, several occasions dating all the way back to 2014. In fact. That was the reason, you know, one of the reasons that he, you know, started OpenAI was for it to be open source so that everyone could view it, make sure it was safe. And of course now we have, you know, different companies and different individuals working on many different closed source pieces of AI. But he talks about how super intelligent AI, it's pretty difficult to handle that complex problem.

And yeah, that's where we want obviously.

Is there any way, I guess, to set limits on the decisions that machines can make that affect human lives and make certain that there's some trigger in the system that inserts a human being into the decision making process?

Well, the reality of what's happening, whether one likes it or not, is that we're building super intelligent AIs, hyper intelligent, like intelligent, more intelligent than we can comprehend. Yes. So I would liken this to like, let's say you have a child that is a super genius child that you know it's going to be much smarter than you, then well, what can you do? You can instill good values in how you raise that child. Even though you know it's going to be far smarter than you. You can make sure it's got good values, philanthropic values, good morals, you know, honest, you know, productive, that kind of thing. Controlling. At the end of the day, I don't know if I don't think we'll be able to control it. So I think the best we can do is make sure it grows up. Well.

So yeah, there's no controlling a super intelligent AI. We just have to hope that it has our values and ensure that it will do within the realm of what's humanely acceptable. So I mean it is quite a hard problem. And this is where Elon Musk also talks about his P doom, which is basically his percentage of the world ending thanks to super intelligent AI. It's not as high as you might think, but it also isn't incredibly low when you consider the fact that this means everyone on Earth is.

So I think the best we can do is make sure it grows up.

Well, you've been saying that for a long time.

Yes, I've been saying it for a long time, yes.

Are you still as worried about it as you seem to be two years ago when I asked you about it?

Well, I think that my guess is like, look, it's 80% likely to be good, maybe 90. So you can think of the glass as 80% full. It's probably going to be great. There's some chance of annihilation.

And you say the chance of annihilation is 20%?

10 to 20%? Something like that.

Now this is where we get onto some of the more interesting parts again, because this is where Elon Musk actually talks about Sam Altman and OpenAI. He says a few things that might ruffle a few feathers in the AI community. But you have to remember that it was Elon Musk who started OpenAI a few years ago. Not a few years ago. It was actually a really long time ago. And of course, the original mission of OpenAI has completely changed. And Elon Musk certainly isn't happy about all of this.

How concerned is Sam Altman about annihilation, do you think?

I think in reality he is not concerned about it. I don't trust OpenAI. I mean, you know, I started that company as a nonprofit, open source. Yes, the open in OpenAI. I named the company. Yeah, OpenAI as an open source. And it is now extremely close source and maximizing profit.

So does Risky.

I don't understand how you actually go from being an open source nonprofit to a closed source for maximum profit organization. I'm missing.

Well, but Sam Altman got rich, didn't he?

At various points he's claimed not to be getting rich, but he's claimed many things that were false. And now apparently he's going to get $10 billion of stock or something like that. So I don't trust Sam Altman. And I don't think we want to have the most powerful AI in the world controlled by someone who is not trustworthy. And sorry, I just don't.

I mean, that seems like a fair concern.

Yeah, but.

But you don't think as someone who knows him and has dealt with him, that he is worried about the possibility this could get out of control and hurt people?

He will say those words.

So now this is where Elon Musk also dives into some interesting topics about how super intelligent AI might actually outsmart us. You see, previously it was humans that were better than AI at chess. But now we have a situation where AI is pretty much God level. And sometimes when you think it does blunders, it does something and then completely checkmates you in ways you didn't understand.

If AI did, if it became clear to the rest of us that it was out of control and posed a threat to humanity, would there be any way to stop it?

I Hope so. I mean, if you have multiple AIs and ones that are. Hopefully you have the AIs that are pro human, be stronger than the AIs.

That are not battle the AIs.

Yeah, I mean, that is how it is with, say, chess these days. The AI chess programs are vastly better than any human. Incomprehensibly better. Meaning, like, we can't even understand why.

It made that move, why they're so good, right?

Yeah. We don't even know why it made that. It'll make the move. We never know why it made the move. And in fact, some of the moves will seem like blunders, but then turn out to checkmate. And for a while there was some. The best human chess players with the best computers could beat just a computer. And then it got to the point where if you added a human, it. It just made everything work and then it was just AI. It's just computer programs versus computer programs. That's where things are headed in general.

Then, of course, we do have AI and retirement. Now. This is one of the things that I think is one of the most interesting because many people, including myself, I find myself constantly having debates on how society will be after the advent of AGI, superintelligent, how people will have jobs and how the economy will work. There's many interesting concepts that are floating around, such as ubiquitous post AGI economics, many different things that are going on there. And Elon Musk, you know, subtly touches on this and I think it's a, you know, a refreshing perspective.

Make sure we instill good values in the AI.

What's everyone going to do for a living?

I mean, in a benign AI scenario, that is probably the biggest challenge is how do you find meaning if AI is better than you at everything? That's the benign scenario.

That's the good news.

Well, yeah, but I guess, you know, a lot of people like the idea of retiring and really, are you looking forward to it? No, not me. I'd like to hope. I'd like to think that I'd like to do useful things.

Don't you think it's a universal desire?

It's not universal in that there are certainly, I know many people who prefer to be retired, that they prefer to sort of not have responsibilities and engage in leisure activity. And we're on the cusp of this now.

Interestingly enough, Elon Musk at the end here actually talks about AI and regulation. Now, AI and regulation is pretty tricky. We had the SB 1047 bill, which was highly controversial. Some people are saying that, oh, this is going to kill AI and you know, it's going to kill regulation. And some people are like, okay, I'm actually in favor for this because this doesn't seem that draconian. I am someone that's, you know, slightly in favor for this because I don't think it's that insane. There are a lot of worse things that you could have in terms of the bills. And I'm not going to go into all the details, it's quite boring. But just, I think it's just enough safety. But interestingly enough, what he does talk about how like he made these predictions a few years ago and some of them seem to be coming true right now. And the thing is, is that the government didn't take them seriously then. So I'm hoping that, you know, now that there is this global consciousness created by ChatGPT where people can truly understand its capabilities, that we understand exactly how AI is going to develop in the future and hopefully build the right regulation.

Surrounding that meaningfully regulating AI, which will eliminate like the purpose for most people's lives and could kill us all. It's a little weird.

Yeah, I think we should have some.

But why don't we, I guess something.

Above nothing in that range. Yeah, but why don't we. I don't know. You know, I, all the way back, like I. During the Obama presidency, you know, I met with Obama many times, but usually in like group settings. The one, one on one meeting I had with Obama in the Oval Office, I said, look, the one thing that we really need to do is set up the beginnings of an AI regulatory agency. And it can start with insight where you don't just come shooting from the hip throwing out regulations, you just start with insight where the AI regulatory committee simply goes in to understand what all the companies are doing and then proposes rules that all the AI companies agree to follow. Just like sports teams in the NFL, you have proposed rules for football that everyone agrees to follow that make the game better, you know, so that's the way to do it. But nothing came of it.

What did he say when he said that to him?

I mean, he seemed to like kind of agree, but also people didn't realize where AI was headed.

Yeah, that's why he's saying like, you know, a lot of people didn't realize where AI was headed. And I've got to be honest, if it was like maybe four or five years ago, I certainly wouldn't have realized.

This too at that time, you know, so AI seemed like some super futuristic, for sure. Sci fi, basically. So, like I'm telling you, this is going to be smarter than the smartest human. And my predictions are coming absolutely true. And so we need to have some insight here just to make sure that these companies aren't cutting corners, doing dangerous things. But Google kind of controlled the White House at that time and they did not want any regulatory.

Well, that's it. I mean, you never see politicians turn down opportunities.

So let me know what you thought about Elon Musk's view on AI. Do you think he has a rather fascinating perspective considering his involvement in in the Scene from many years ago? I think this interview was quite refreshing considering we are moving very rapidly into the future. And if you have any comments down below, I'd love to hear your thoughts about this video.