Episode 2 | Flipping Mobile Homes w/ Lauren Barnett

Welcome back to the New and Experienced Investor Podcast. I'm one of your hosts, Alex Barnett.

And my name is Joe Holmes. Oh, keep going. My name's, my name's Joe Holmes, and, uh, I've been a broker, a realtor, a mentor, and everything else for the last Over 40 years.

I love it. We have our first guest here today. This is pretty exciting.

I'm excited. Um, she's a little nervous, but I'm excited.

Yeah, she gets nervous. Um, she just happens to be my wife, so she had an in with the show. You know, I pulled a couple strings, talked to Joe. He's like, all right, fine. And we got her on here. So we're going to be talking about mobile homes today. I think a lot of people kind of overlook the mobile home niche. We kind of stumbled into it, and it's actually— it's been a lot of fun and pretty profitable, I'd say. So we're gonna dive deep into that. But first, let's get to know Lauren a little bit. Maybe introduce yourself and kind of give your bio. What were you doing before real estate? How'd you get into real estate? And tell touch on that.

Hello, I'm Lauren Barnett, Alex's wife. Um, he got into real estate first, and I kind of got into it by association. Uh, we were in a band, the pandemic happened, we thought we'll never play a live show again, we gotta pivot and figure something else out. And, um, yeah, I kind of was just in the room every time he was listening to YouTube and He started with wanting to own rentals, and they were like, "Well, we don't have any cash to buy rentals." Then it went to flipping. We don't have any cash to buy a house to flip. Then it went to maybe like an Airbnb. Same problem. He got into wholesaling, sold his first wholesale deal to Joe and his partners, and we met up with Joe maybe a couple months before that at a flipping class. And yeah, just kind of set it off from there.

What was the name of your group?

The name of our group is Aloha Radio.

Nice.

If anyone wants to check it out. Yeah. Nice.

Nice. Yeah.

So, okay. Nice. And so I would say you kind of got more involved. You watched sort of from the sidelines at first as I was building the wholesaling. I was meeting up with Joe, learning a lot from him. And I finally found this deal, the deal of the century, the one everyone's been waiting for, The only problem is it's a mobile home and Joe doesn't flip mobile homes. So I had to go into the room and pitch that idea.

That's right.

And, uh, he actually went for it.

This was after we toured the property though, right? Because I think we toured it and we were talking about possibly taking it down as a rental or seller finance or something.

Oh.

And then when we toured the property and you were able to get the seller down even more because when we walked through it, it was borderline hoarder status, you know. Then Joe said, why don't we try to flip it? And that was our very first flip. That's my baby.

Yeah.

And, and a little bit about the mobile home, because when he presented it to me to begin with, I said, I don't do mobile homes. But then he explained a little bit more in that you actually own the land.

That's right.

Which was obviously very interesting. The HOA was like $125, which is nothing. It's got, you know, a couple of pools, a billiard table. It's got like 3 or 4 rec centers in there for— and it's a senior community, by the way. But then I put all that stuff together and I said, oh, you own the land underneath. That makes it interesting because I didn't want to just flip a mobile home in a mobile home park where you ended up, you're buying basically a car at that point in time, 'cause that's how they're registered. But this was something that you own the land. And I thought, wow. And she's correct that the price that Alex had wholesaled it or put it under contract was, I think, $80,000.

Mm-hmm.

And then Alex and I and Lauren went out there And, um, I kind of acted like, uh, you know, the contractor person. And so I was obviously knocking everything down, but it, it was pretty bad shape. Um, and I told Alex, I said, you know, we can do this, but we have to get it down to like $60,000. So I think that's what we ended up getting that property for, which was a really, really good price.

Yeah. Yeah. I don't think we, I mean, we knew it was, it was a lot better price. And it kind of went hand in hand with what the market was doing because I think originally the ARV was somewhere around $150,000. And by the time we finished, the market was still going up and we ended up selling it for $220,000. So that was, that was pretty nice.

That was a blockbuster.

Yeah, that was good market timing is what that was. Yeah.

And I mean, the funny part of that, it was like, oh, this flipping's not that hard. You know, like when it was all said and done.

Yeah, we got spoiled on the first one.

I thought I was a genius, but now I'm seeing And how market timing and all that goes hand in hand with it. And you have to be able to see 6 months to a year out or whatever it may be. But what was really cool was Lauren kind of took the helm as far as the design. She naturally has that sort of artistic eye and it was our first time doing it. It was kind of scary at first, but obviously we have Joe to help us out and sort of hold our hand through the whole thing. But she took, um, the helm designing it, and it was just really cool to see her put all that together. What, what was sort of your— I mean, you had never done it before. How did you approach that?

Um, I really just looked at previous flips of Joe's and his son-in-law Ryan's and kind of based it off of that. But we kind of worked within the mobile home. Like, we didn't tear every single thing out. We kept the bathroom vanities, The kitchen cabinets, we removed some to create a better like breakfast nook area. But we pretty much just ended up painting all those, especially the master bathroom was such a wonky layout. I don't know how we would have replaced a vanity and it's like 2 sinks and a vanity, but almost like kitty-corner.

Mm-hmm.

And then I just felt like when you move, if I were the person that was going to be buying this home, I would want it like clean and move-in ready. And I think too, as someone who naturally like, I like color in my space, it was really hard to just keep everything very neutral and white pretty much. But after doing that, I think it's just like a blank canvas ready for someone to move in. If you want to paint a wall, you don't got to prime the wall, you can just Throw whatever color up there you want in an afternoon. So, um, yeah, it was a lot of fun picking stuff out. It was stressful at first because everything felt like, is this the right fixture? Is this the right doorknob? I don't know. And now I'm just like, that, that, that, that. Got, got the stuff I like and that I think people like. And then, um, you just kind of see what other flips are looking like and you don't want to copy it but look similar, you know. I think that's what I'm doing, at least.

So when I first started— no, I'm sorry, not when I first started flipping. When I first started teaching my son-in-law and my daughter how to flip, which is about 7 or 8 years ago now. Previously, I'd been flipping properties and I'd be pretty minimalist. And I wouldn't put, you know, like brand new kitchen cabinets. uh, redesigned bathrooms and flooring and all that sort of stuff. I went into a place and it had shag carpet in it, and I told my daughter, I said, well, that looks good to me. And she says, you're never going to design a place for me, okay? And so when Lauren started to do the design, Alex used to call me and say, well, what do you think of this? And I'd say, ask your wife, okay?

Okay.

Because I don't have any design in me whatsoever. You know, I'm good with acquiring properties and working in numbers and, um, you know, doing that sort of stuff, but design is not my forte. Um, and I know that— I mean, this is— this was a regular mobile home and, you know, had the paneling on the walls and stuff. And you really just, you know, told the contractor, just paint this stuff.

Yeah, we— one of the contractors walking through, and I I did have some background with mobile homes. My grandma on my mom's side lived in mobile homes throughout my childhood into adulthood. So she actually lived in one of the parks in Hemet, funny enough, for like 5 years. And I remember helping paint her mobile home and it wasn't a big deal. It's just like painting a wall in your house. And one of the first contractors during the walkthrough was making a big fuss about painting the walls and saying they would have to be sanded down or re-drywalled and making a big commotion about it. I was like, we're not using him. Absolutely not. He doesn't know what he's talking about. You just use regular paint, primer and paint. It's, it's simple.

Right? Right. Primer goes a long way.

It does.

Yeah. It goes a long way. And then how did you do the, the resurfacing of the vanity tops and then the kitchen?

Yeah, that, that was an awesome recommendation by our contractor. He suggested that we could get the countertops and even the bathtubs and the shower. We were thinking we were going to have to get a whole new unit in there. He said, you know, he's worked with a reglazing company before. We reached out to them. I saw some of their work on Instagram. They came out and those countertops and like the tub, the shower, everything looked like it was brand new and just had a beautiful sparkle to it. But yeah, that was a recommendation by, by Frank. And it's a popular, popular service for the mobile homes.

Okay. And then did you, did you stage the home after?

We did. Alex's mom is a home stager. And she's always specialized in what's called vignette staging. So You just make little vignettes to display, you know, good qualities of the home, good attributes of the home. One of my favorite parts of the first mobile we did was that built-in hutch that we really modernized.

Yeah.

And it just looked so nice in pictures. And we staged that with all these little plants and just minimal decor, but just to make it pop in the final walkthrough pictures. And I think that style of staging is really suited for the mobiles because they are a smaller space, but it helps people imagine their stuff in there without being cramped and having to drag all the furniture in and drag it back out when we're done. So just little pops of color and knickknacks, and especially in the bathrooms, we like to use a lot of towels and hand soaps and make it feel very luxurious in there.

Mm-hmm.

And the flooring, what kind of flooring did you use?

Vinyl.

Okay.

Yeah, just vinyl all the way. I think it's, it's durable.

Pretty much throughout?

Yeah, we, we even did the vinyl flooring in, um, what would you call that area? The, the shed. It's, yeah, it's like a— it's more like a room. And especially the first one, the, the shed was so funky because I don't know if you remember, Joe, walking through and the primary bathroom had a sliding glass door to a workshop that just had a car engine on like a rack being worked on.

Yeah.

It was a total like man cave. And we painted that. We ran electrical in there and put flooring in there and people loved it. I think that was one of the big selling points of the home. Yeah.

But we ended up closing the slider in that bathroom.

Yeah, we drywalled that and closed the bathroom off. I don't know. I told a friend about that who's kind of a car guy and he's like, that sounds awesome to me. Yeah. So, but I didn't think for the general population that that would be very appealing.

So anyways, if, if you missed the numbers, because Alex kind of went really quick through those numbers, we purchased it at $60,000.

We put about $40,000 at the end of the day.

Mm-hmm. It was a little bit surprising to me how much we ended up putting in. I mean, when I do a full rehab remodel of a house, I may spend $90,000. So $40,000 was a little high for me, but that's what it ended up costing us. So we were in it We put $100,000 in, like Alex said, we sold it for $225,000 and, you know, paid out closing costs and commissions to everybody. So I think we ended up clearing a little bit over $100,000 on that deal that we ended up splitting. And I had a lot of fun. I told them from the beginning, my goal is not to go out there anymore. You're going to handle all that.

Totally fine.

And the handyman. And even you guys even showed the place a couple of times, but that was during the height of the market. And, you know, anything you put on the market was selling within days. And that's what happened here. It just sold very quickly.

I think part of the reason I think maybe the budget got a little bit inflated was just our— like how long it took for us to make decisions on certain things. So I think there were times when our contractor may have been waiting on certain items, so it was just something, you know, just us not knowing what we're doing.

Yeah.

So I mean, that, that's a good lesson for anybody. If you're, if you're starting out and you really don't know what to— what you're doing, like, you need to put a buffer in there. Don't have it to where it's, okay, we only have $50,000 to spend, because that's just— if you get eaten up and then you're stuck, you know, and you have an extra— you need to put an extra like $10,000 20 grand into it, especially if you're doing a house. Just, just give yourself a little bit of room.

Yeah. And then as soon as you make a decision, order what you need, because I think the flooring was delayed. So you— so our guys were waiting for flooring for a week longer than they should have been. Just little things like that.

Do you think you over-improved it? Because usually a first-time flipper, what the mistakes they usually make are, gee, I think like if I was going to live here, these are the type of things that I would want to put in, when you really should be flipping to the product that you're flipping and the price range. I know that you bought some really expensive doorknobs and stuff like that.

I tried not to.

They, I mean, and light fixtures, they, It turned out amazing. It really did. It was just amazing. But maybe a little bit overkill. You didn't feel that way?

Yeah, it's hard. It's hard for me to say that I felt that way because it was so successful. Yeah. But, but also, I did try my, my best to source things like the second project we did, San Jose. I did buy cheaper light fixtures and doorknobs. I definitely, I definitely started being like, okay, we can dial this back. And I knew we had a tighter margin with that one as well.

Yeah.

Uh, with the market coming back down. And, um, so yeah, I probably went a little too far with it. And then now it's like, okay, I see that it doesn't have to be the— like, for example, the light fixtures, the pendants There were some on a cord and like the kinks in the cord were bothering me. So then I got like metal ones and I didn't need to do that. I could have just left the corded light fixture and it would look great.

Yeah, see, that's— you're flipping to your taste. Yeah. You know, instead of flipping to the product and what, you know, the average person out there is going to end up buying the property. So you're Kind of putting your, your, you know, your flair into it.

Yeah.

But it's understandable.

The next 2, I did use the corded ones. That's just a little bit of like OCD that I have that I was like, no, can't, can't do that. And then I was like, the next one, I was like, yeah, those ones, they're, they're $20, do those. Like, I was less precious about it, I guess, because it was the first one. And I, I also felt like the pressure, like I wanted it To do really well and look really nice.

Yeah.

So.

Yeah. You didn't get any pressure from me. I don't know.

No, Joe's a good backstop for—

Not me.

When we—

Yeah, yeah.

I'm always like, if Joe sounds worried, then I'm gonna have a full-blown panic attack.

Oh yeah, which never happens. But I mean, I mean, when we're like, hey, we want to do this to it, he's like, okay, get it cheaper. Like, or, you know, yeah, yeah, like, get it lower.

Yeah, because you're kind of the opposite of what she is. You're very easy.

Right.

And you just like, the contractor says $1,000 and you say, can I pay you $1,200? You know, Loren's the opposite. Loren says, oh no, get it for $700. I'm the same way. It's like you have to negotiate everything. Anything that you do in a flip.

Yeah.

If they ask you for this, you know, say, hey, can you do it for $800? I know.

Gotta get better at that.

You're the opposite.

Yeah, I'll be like, that seems about right.

Can I pay you $1,200?

Like, it's Joe's money. But yeah, I know. Yeah, especially like, I mean, especially with Frank after I get to know him too. He's like, now, now I think we have a pretty good understanding. He knows I'm gonna come in and be like, you know, you gotta, you gotta get it, you gotta get it cheaper, dude.

Yeah. You have to.

Yeah.

And, and I know I'm in trouble when Alex calls me and Lauren and they go, uh, oh, by the way, we're having lunch with Frank the contractor. I go, shoot, now you're on, you know, friendly basis. You're buying lunch for him. It's like, oh my gosh. This is part Probably worse.

He actually bought us lunch one time, and I was like, "That means we're paying him too much." Okay, this is a problem.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I know.

Yeah, it's a fine line with letting these guys know what's up and then being keeping their morale up or something.

Yeah. Well, the last contractor in Joshua Tree was a nightmare that I felt so stupid after that. Like. Walking through the house and looking at the work, and after we brought our guys from Hemet out because he just was taking his time and not getting anything done, and they started pointing things out, and I was just like, how did I not see that? Or I was just especially bathrooms. Like we had never done tile work before, so I didn't know what I was looking for as far as like grout lines and clean work. And then as soon as it's pointed out to you. I'm just like, obviously, obviously this work is garbage and they've just been like slapping stuff on the walls. And now, especially after that experience, those guys— I told Alex, I was like, fire them now, like today. And then you told us to wait till the end of the day. Um, yeah, I, I was really upset with those guys.

Yeah.

Yeah, they weren't, they weren't happy with me either. When they were leaving, they called me A few names, so that's fine.

Yeah, well, that's on them. Um, but bringing it back to mobile homes, so let's, let's give the people some, maybe some design tips, maybe some dos and don'ts.

Oh gosh.

Um, if they're, if they're just getting started, because it can be maybe a lower barrier to entry rather than having to go out, you know, and get an $800,000 house or $500,000 house. Maybe they can afford the, you know, $100,000 or less mobile home.

Right.

What are your main things that you're going to go for to have the biggest impact?

Um, biggest impact— paint. Paint and flooring. If you don't do anything else, do that. And paint everything white. I mean, I've seen some flips with gray and stuff. I just think the white, it's like I said earlier, the blank canvas thing. Um, and I'm not a designer, but I am absorbing a lot of design material now. I'm watching a lot of YouTubers on design and stuff. But, uh, for flips, I think you just want that clean, new feeling. Everything's fresh, move-in ready, and then whoever buys it can personalize it to their own taste.

Are you painting the outside?

I am now. The mobile homes, the ones we've bought and hemmed it are usually pretty sunbeat and look pretty— the curb appeal isn't always there, right? So I think the fresh coat of paint, again, it just like can make anything look nice and shiny.

We still drive by that first one, right?

I know, I point it out every time.

That coat of paint is still fresh.

That was a pretty dark green color. Yeah, yeah, that one.

Yeah, I did it pops.

I know you got some negative feedback from the neighbors on that.

It was kind of hit or miss, but it was It was literally what was on there before.

It was, it was, it was. So, painting the outside of a house, I didn't know what to do. I asked Joe, he said, ask me. So, it was like this circle. So, then I talked to Frank and he's like, well, you can't go lighter than the color that's already on the house if you don't want to primer it. So, just get a similar color. And, I did pick out a similar color. When we showed up and he did a swatch on the wall, this is actually kind of a funny story. It was like a bright turquoise. And I said, Frank, that is not the color I picked. And he has the paint chip and he's like, this is what I told him at Home Depot. We realized there were 2 paint colors by Behr, both named Vine Leaf, and one had a space between the words and one didn't.

Ooh.

So they actually accepted our return of the paint, which they don't do because it was their error.

Yeah.

And we got that darker shade of green, and I thought it looked really cool. And that was kind of like my— I got some color in this one.

Yeah, I really liked it.

Yeah, Joe liked it. And then I was like, yes.

Yeah, but remember, I have no design taste whatsoever. But I did like it.

Yeah.

But you did receive some negative feedback from a neighbor.

Just one. Just one lady. She also— so we did an open house. So people could walk through because Joe was getting calls left and right and everyone wanted to come see it. And one neighbor walked through, she slammed every single cabinet, like slammed the doors as she was walking through, commented on the reglazing and how bad it looked. And also said the paint color was atrocious on the outside and that she couldn't believe that the HOA approved it and that She couldn't believe she was going to have to walk by that house every day.

And I just remember this is a senior community. Yeah.

And I just stood there and I was like, well, yeah, it's not for everybody. And I heard a quote on one of those flipping shows one time that I just keep replaying. It's like, if you please everyone, you spent too much. So, yeah. And you have a good one too that we always say, book it. Pick it out, put it in, move on.

Exactly.

You were like singing that like one day. Like, yeah, pick it up, move on.

Yeah, as quick as possible.

Yes, right. Yeah. Okay, that's great. So there's some mobile homes tips and tricks. If you guys have any questions, reach out to Lauren. You can find her on our shared couple Instagram account, Alex and Lauren Real Estate.

Couples Real Estate.

Couples Real Estate. We're being cute.

Yeah, I do. We don't have a shared like Couple's account. That's a little.

What do you mean?

Like a personal couple's account.

Oh oh no no no. It's yeah it's a real estate account. That's what I'm saying.

Yeah. I mean no. It's okay if you have that. I just I have my own account as well.

Oh your own personal one. Okay.

Yeah but you're not gonna find it.

It's secret. Okay all right. Yeah she's secret. Very secretive.

Secret.

Okay.

I just I don't know why I had to comment on that. It's just because you were like our couple's.

Oh, well, it's a couple's—

it's our business account. It's our business account.

Okay, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha.

Okay, nobody's confused, right?

Nobody's confused.

Um, so they're married.

That's right, it's going swimmingly. Um, so now let's back up, just market in general. Maybe, um, if you guys want to like and subscribe to this, um, podcast, let's do a quick little market update. What can you tell us?

Bad.

There we go.

Bad. Uh, market's really pretty much dead right now. And, uh, for all of you out there that are listening and are listening now, my recommendation is you put your pencils down. Okay? You wait for the Fed to finish raising interest rates. Then you can pick your pencil back up and start calculating whether the deals are good deals or not. We still look for deals every single day, but we've gone down to about 60% of the ARV. So it's getting down pretty low. And if people aren't interested in selling their house or mobile home or whatever it is, then we move on. You know, like I said, my— pretty much my pencil's down right now. I've got— we've got one more property to sell out in Joshua Tree. If you're interested in Joshua Tree, we have a property out there for sale.

It's really nice.

And, and that's all I have going on right now. My son-in-law, I think he still has about 20 projects that he's working on.

Wow.

And that was down from— I think he had like 40 projects at the beginning of last year. Last year was a crazy year, probably the craziest I've ever experienced in the last 42 years. I made the most money on a flip the beginning of the year, and then towards the end of the year, the, the 2 mobile homes we ended up selling, we ended up making— we ended up making about $20,000 on each, $20,000, $25,000. But that didn't obviously compare to the $100,000 that we made on the other 2.

Yeah, we got spoiled.

But yeah, but they were I mean, I had fun working with you guys on those and stuff. And, um, you know, you, you always have something come up. We had to change a water heater out on one of the projects.

Oh, I'm checking for all that now.

You know, we had, uh, plumbing issues underneath, and we had to, you know, deal with all that stuff. So it did bring our profit down more than, than normal. Um, the first one we sold Was like, I think, 1,400 square feet. And then the other ones were like 1,000 or maybe 1,100. And then—

Yeah, no, we had one small one. Yeah, one small one. Now we know if we're gonna do something under 1,100, then it has to be really cheap. Yeah, because people don't— they just don't want those. They want 1,440 or bigger in that part. So, right.

The second one sold relatively quick compared to we listed it, I felt like.

Yeah.

And especially during— it was right around the holidays. I was kind of surprised.

It's because it's bigger, though.

Yeah, bigger lot. It was the nicer— I mean, that was the biggest lot. And I think that was the biggest one we— I think that was closer to 1,600 square feet. But it had nice landscaping and everything.

Just that was a corner lot one.

Yeah, the corner lot. And then I think that one being listed helped sell the smaller one because people would go look at the bigger one, maybe it was out of their price point, and then they'd go check out the smaller one that's in the same style.

Yeah.

And yeah, that was more suited to them.

Yeah. And anyways, the other issue we had was financing, right? And what are the rules when it comes to mobile homes and financing?

So they, they, the— I think it's a federal—

it's a rule.

Yeah, it's a HUD rule, a 1976 June 1976 and later, they started using HUD standards. Um, so you can get regular FHA or, you know, regular conventional.

You have to put the permanent foundation in.

Yeah, yeah. Once you put— yeah, you put permanent foundation in there and then you can get traditional financing. Anything before that, you don't— permanent foundation or not, it— you're gonna have to go to basically a hard money lender.

Or pay cash.

Or pay cash to, um, you know.

And the permanent financing was how much? I'm sorry, the per—

uh, permanent foundation.

Permanent foundation.

Yeah, so that runs, I think, yeah, about $4,000 or $5,000.

Um, yeah, and so again, you know, you, you find these things out as you go along. We made that mistake. We put in permanent foundation right away thinking that, you know, We could use that to get a loan, but then at the end of the day, then we find out that that had nothing to do with it, right? So, you know, we still are looking for mobile homes in, in the Hemet area. And now we don't do any of that stuff. We don't put permanent foundation with 75 built or less.

Yeah, not at all. And then I think we decided going forward too, that unless Unless the buyer requests it, we're not going to do it.

Yeah, because the last 2 we did, they pretty much were sold cash.

Yeah.

The last 2.

Yeah.

The first one, I believe they did get financing.

I think they did, yeah.

But the last 2 we sold cash. And she's correct. If a buyer comes in and they want to do a loan and it's 75 or above, you can put that permanent foundation in in 2 weeks or less.

Oh yeah.

Because they were really, they were really quick about doing that stuff and they handle everything. Even report to the city and change to have them change their records that it's on permanent foundation now.

Yeah. Right on. Right on.

Wow.

That's great. The band's back together, y'all. Okay. So upcoming guests, we're going to be having Joe's son-in-law, Ryan Mitchell. He's the one that's doing, you know, 40 flips, 20 flips, and we'll pick his brain about his process and everything. We have some in-house wholesalers we're going to be talking to because it seems like It seems like, Joe, you're getting a lot of people coming around saying they want to get into wholesaling.

A lot of people. Yeah. Yeah. It's like—

What's that about?

I don't know.

It's all the rage or something?

I just, I've had like 4 or 5 real estate agents reach out. And it's not unusual because during December, the end of December, all real estate agents in January have to start making payment on their MLS dues. And it averages around $1,100, $1,200 a year to do that. Gotcha. want to do that anymore. And they're thinking, you know, I didn't do anything last year. I didn't sell any, I didn't list it. I didn't do anything for this $1,200. So maybe I just get into wholesaling. Um, you know, wholesaling, yes, you can make some money. It's not as easy as everybody thinks. Um, and you know, I bring a lot of them here to the office. We had like, uh, 4 or 5 of them here today.

It was going off today.

And they, they sit here, they learn, because Alex comes in in the morning, uh, and he brings his, uh, his business— other business partner Chad with him, and they start doing cold calling and they listen. And Alex takes time to explain to them what, uh, what we're doing and how we're doing it. Um, and then, you know, at, at that point it's on them, right?

Right.

You know, to see if they want to move forward and, and do what we're doing. I don't have a problem showing people how to duplicate what we're doing. That's fine. Not a problem. So yeah, if you're interested in doing that, then reach out to me or reach out to Alex.

Yeah. And you can find all of Joe's contact information in the show notes or on his YouTube channel. So please, if you guys would help out the podcast by sharing this with anybody, you know, into real estate, real estate investing, or newbies or anyone, especially on this channel or this episode, since we had Loren talking about mobile Homes, you know, maybe someone, uh, doesn't have a niche yet or no direction. Maybe you could point them to the mobile home, um, direction.

So, or if you find a mobile home deal, send that to us, please.

There we go.

There you go.

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