Theo Lucier - How To Be Smarter, Energized, And Focused All Day

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Oh, I'm locking up. What do I say? Those are the old days. The old days, you know, when you, like, we were, like, learning to do all these, like, videos, social media videos. You're like, oh, how do I talk to a camera?

Yeah, Well, I remember in the early days, I felt very uncomfortable, even just, like, doing screen capture and, like, having my voice be on video.

Of course. Yeah, it's a lot of folks. All right, that's a little tangent.

And now there's millions of you listening.

Millions. Million.

Galaxy wide.

I'm gonna throw an ish on the end so I'm not lying.

Galaxy wide. Elon's launching his satellites to the world. So our connectivity is everywhere. Yes, planetary.

So this episode that we're about to go into, there's a lot of information.

Yeah, we're not talking about planetary podcasts like this one or Red Light Syndrome. We're talking about biohacking.

We are, actually. So we had Theo Lucer on the call or on the show, what about a couple months ago, a third or.

Two ago, probably two months.

He was a very, very popular episode. Joe and I were super fascinated with all the biohacking stuff. In the last episode, we talked a lot about sleep and having more energy during the day and a bunch of.

Tools and supplements and.

Yeah, go listen to it if you haven't already. It's phenomenal. Well, this is essentially part two of this one of talking to him, and this one we're talking about, like, it's coming into seminar season. Right.

What does that mean?

So we're going to Traffic and Conversion Summit. We're going to PodFest. There's podcast movement, there's social media, marketing world. I'm not going to list off every event. I'm just listing off a handful that we know of in the digital marketing world. But, you know, all the fitness events that are out there and stuff, this is the time of year, the beginning of the year, when a lot of events are happening and those events can be draining. You don't sleep a lot.

The crappy hotels, the wifi that screws with your sleep, which I didn't even think about. We talked about that. But yeah, there's like, the change in diet. You're away from your normal routine, and I think that is what always jacks me up is the second you change your routine, like leaving your house and getting away from all the supplements and the diet and the wake up time, that's where things can go squirrely and it's like compounds. Yeah.

And you're on your feet all day and you're talking to people all day and you're networking and you gotta be on. And there's a big mental toll of all of that stuff as well. And that's really where we kind of shift the focus on this podcast is if you're working at a very high level or you're going to these events or you're putting a lot of this strain on your body because of these types of things, this is how you can sort of counteract the negative effects. This is how you can feel positive and happy and energetic and awake and alert all day long. And I'm not even going to start to get into some of the topics he talked about because they're like there's a lot.

We'll leave that for him. There's enough information there. But yeah, we figured it would be important to highlight how to basically prep yourself not only at home or in the office, you know, wherever you're doing your best work, your day to day living is really. Yeah. What Theo did is he gave like a really good baseline. Like here's what you should do for yourself. And you know, there's a lot of supplement talk. There's some tools, there's just some habits and practices you could do too. They're all, you know, there's free stuff, there's paid. Yeah. There's in between inexpensive things and there's really expensive things. He kind of gives everything. Yeah. One of them. This tool that I love is only like 270 bucks, but it's like a total game changer. He'll talk about that later on. But the idea here is you'll have all the tools and things you need to not only succeed at home, but also when you're on the road being that road warrior away from the family, away from your routine. The idea there is you're going to feel your best there as well because that's usually where the breakdown is. I know for us when we come back there's usually this hangover effect that lasts a few days before traveling because you're not gonna be in your A game when you just like did a flight for like four or five hours in different time zones.

It's true.

But you could be after this episode.

Yeah. Now, in this episode, the first, let's say 15, 20 minutes are very, very sciency. So I'm just gonna disclaim that now. But once. Once we get through the science stuff, then he really gets into this sort of tactical and supplements and tools you can use. And. And so, I mean, we're blown away by the science, but if there's anybody who's listening and they're like, okay, this is a little over my head. It does kind of get a little more grounded 15 or 20 minutes in with all the tools and resources and things like that. So just keep that in mind when you're listening.

And a quick thing, too is Matt mentioned he was on the podcast before Theo, and his background's interesting. We didn't get into it in this one, but just as a quick little recap, dude was an amazing.

Real estate commercial.

Real estate broker.

Broker, yes, that's the word I was trying to find. Kicking ass, like calls. I think he said something like 50 calls a day, meetings, like crazy. He burnt himself out and it did not look pretty. So, like, the. The other episode, he gets deep into his story. He got very stressed out, depressed, suicidal. I mean, it got bad. And the key thing, and he kind of alluded to it here, is you can't think your way out of things. So if you like, you know, if you feel like you're just tired, you're drained, you typically have something off with your meat suit, your body, something's a little off, and you can't just think it through. You can't just willpower, push through. It's probably gonna help a little bit, but that's not the longevity. That's not the way to live. You're gonna break down. And that's the key thing that he realizes he burnt himself out. Theo did. And.

Basically the reason we bring him on the show is to show all the things that he wish he knew back then so he could succeed. And now this is his passion. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And this is one you're going to need the notes on.

Yeah. So let's get. Well, yes, let's do that.

Yes.

The notes.

That's. You should do that. Everybody listening should do that. Get the notes.

Get the notes. We're going to. There's going to be a lot of links, I'll say. Or a lot of tools. A lot of very specific science y things.

A lot of supplements.

Yeah, there's all sorts of different. The thing with Theo is, like, the dude is very specific and granular around exactly what you should get. Like brands and all that. So get the notes. Yes, definitely.

How do they get.

They can get the notes by going to 38470 comp.

I like when you do.

38470 comp. C O M P. Type it on your phone.

Yeah, so type the word comp to the phone number 38470, text that and we'll send you the notes. Or you can go to hustleandflowchart.com comp. We'll send you the notes that way too. You gotta be quick. Notes are only available for two weeks. After that they're only available to EPIC subscribers, also known as the EGP letter. So make sure you get them before they're gone.

If you want them for free, get the notes. It's a no brainer. Anyone listening to these podcasts should always get the notes. And let's just be honest there, it's gonna extend your thinking further and you won't have to feel like you missed anything.

I mean everybody listening to this podcast really should be a subscriber to the EGP letter. Cause then we just automatically send you the notes.

You won't miss anything then. And really just think about it. You just swipe one thing like one supplement from this or one tool. Like there's one that can like crush your anxiety for this is what I mentioned about 275. Like if you're stressed and all that stuff, like think about that. They're not marketing this stuff everywhere, but the notes will have it in there. That thing like friggin A, it could change your life. You know, I'm buying one of them.

Yeah. So the EGP letter, it's not only just the notes, but we also get like bonus training videos from a lot of our guests. And there's a whole bunch of cool stuff inside of a member's area, but you also get the notes mailed right to your door. So if you're not a member, check that out too over at EGP Letter. But for now go check out the notes at. Type comp to. What was the number again?

38470.

That's it. I don't know why, I just had a brain fog.

I don't know.

But go get them. Or go to hustlinflowchart.com let's go talk to Theo.

You're talking really fast. 38470 comp. Theo, what's happening brother?

What's going on?

You're back. It's like we just chatted like the other week. Feels like Matt never talked about that. You're back for round two.

That's right. It was awesome.

Yeah. With the podcast, full disclosure, we were kind of.

Recording and releasing close to the same dates. So last time we recorded, I think your episode came out like maybe a week, a week and a half after we recorded, and now we're recording another one and it feels like we just talked to you, but the, the audience absolutely loved it. We got tons of emails from people saying, you gotta bring Theo back, you gotta talk more about this biohacking stuff. Because quite honestly, most of the entrepreneurs listening, you know, they get fed tactics and they get fed business strategies constantly. But if your body and your mind aren't operating correctly, none of that shit matters.

Yeah, you know, I think one of the challenges that we run into is entrepreneurs is, and if you're in our space, kind of the direct response marketing space, you're used to these kind of success mindsets, right. And you're exposed to that and the whole, that's a very western and very American idea kind of what's called the top down approach. So it's like basically mind over matter. You can think your way out of burnout, you can think your way out of depression. You just have to have enough willpower. And kind of the handicap with that approach is if the systems in your body are shot to shit, you're not going to have the energy you need to manufacture enough willpower to change your mindset in the first place. And then you end up just blaming yourself and feeling worse. And then that becomes.

What a software programmer would call a recursive loop, self reinforcing feedback loop, or a vicious circle. And it just gets worse over time. So I prefer kind of a bottom up approach where it's like, hey, you know what, it's really hard to manufacture willpower to change your mindset when you're already running one, two or three businesses and dealing with customer issues. Let's just focus on your body first, because you don't have to think about it. You just do certain things and your body is provided the conditions it needs to begin repairing itself. To begin repairing itself. And then because your brain is housed in this meat suit, you know, that starts changing and before you know it, you can think more clear. And then that's when you have the energy and the willpower.

Yeah, I think it's, it's. You're right, man. Because of all things, there's a lot of unknowns and things out of our control in life, business, of course, business, but everything but the thing, you can't Control are, you know, the habits that you're forming for yourself and your body, more or less can't control all that either, but at least the habits that you're going about things, and I think that's what's valuable that you bring to the table here, instilling some good fundamentals that we can then use in our lives to kind of deal with these external factors as best as possible.

Yeah, exactly. And then once you do that, then you can go and do the mindset stuff, but not first.

Yeah, well, you know, we. We got a lot of. It's interesting about this podcast because, you know, a lot of times we're talking tactical and we are giving people, hey, the latest, greatest YouTube strategy and things like that, and people always seem to love it. Our download numbers go up on those episodes. But when we do episodes like this, where we talk to you about biohacking and getting your mind and your body and everything in line so that you can properly run a business, we get tons of actual feedback from people. People emailing us, going, do more of that, talk more about that kind of stuff.

How do I get blowing up?

How do I talk to ted? I want to. I need to know more of this stuff. So I think we're kind of. I think in the entrepreneurial space. I think there's. There's. We're kind of at this turning point where people are starting to realize this now. People are starting to realize that, you know, keeping my. My body right and keeping my mind right are just as important as any sort of tactics. And I think there was a long stretch where people were like, no, hustle, grind. Hustle, grind. Gary Vee, Grant Cardone, like, just get out there and keep hustling. Stop being a pussy. Right? But I think there's been this turning point over the last few years, like three or four years, where people are starting to realize that's not what it's all about, that I do need to take care of this other stuff as well.

I interviewed JJ Virgin a couple weeks ago, and this topic came up, and she said, I'm so glad you brought up this thing about this hustle culture, because she said, you know, I know Gary Vee, and he said that mentality works for him, but it's not for everyone. It's just what works for him. And he tells people not to do it. But when you have those kind of guys, what I call the yelling guys, I think that they have an audience because if you take your typical person off the street, they tend to have motivation issues. And so they're looking for a guru to plug their umbilical cord in to externally motivate them. And so they like the yelling and the aggressiveness because it makes them feel motivated. Right. But it's a short term solution.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I want to. So what I want to dove in on this one is we talked about this a little bit before we hit record is I want to kind of talk about some of the fundamentals and some of the, like the, the philosophies behind biohacking and getting this stuff right. Because I think, I think there's so much information being thrown at people. I mean, our last episode we talked a lot about how to improve your sleep and how to have more energy during the day and things like that. But if you start really going down this biohacking rabbit hole, there's just, I mean, you could biohack pretty much any part of your body or mind. And I think a lot of people just don't even know where to start. Like what should be the first things that I focus on? Where's, like where's my entry point into this world? So I kind of want to go down that rabbit hole a little bit.

Yeah, let's do it. I mean, and you know, getting into health and wellness or what became biohacking. I think biohacking is just health and wellness expanded to an audience of people that want to self optimize versus people that are trying to fix something that's wrong. Right.

There's so many things out there now. I mean, should I do carnivore, should I do keto, should I do, you know, some people plant based? Should I focus on my gut health, Should I do all this crazy tech and nootropics for my brain? And it gets confusing. So, you know, just like in physics they've always been looking for a unified theory which you know, would tie together, you know, physics and chemistry and Newtonian physics and that sort of thing. There actually is kind of a unified theory for health and wellness and biohacking and basically. Have you guys ever heard of the concept of the body being electrical in nature?

Oh yeah, definitely.

Yeah. Great. So do you know the story of the Flexner Report and kind of what happened around 100, 120 years ago?

I do not.

I've heard of the title, but I don't know specifics.

Yeah, it's an interesting, it's an interesting story. So in the 1800s, kind of later 1800s and the early 20th century.

Electrical like so basically what's called bioenergetics but basically using different forms of energy, in this case electricity in the body was taught in medical schools. And this is before the chemical model existed. So like the drug model, the chemistry model, and you could go into a doctor's office and they would treat you with microcurrents and reverse a lot of different conditions or diseases. And there's been various guises of this over the years, but what happened was, is During World War I, penicillin was invented and as powerful antibiotic and you know, had a lot of results and such. And after the war ended and things kind of settled down, one of the original Rockefellers decided that this would be a good industry to invest in because it was new and it was kind of like the Wild West. And once they got a handle on the market, they looked at how cheap and readily available electromedicine was and the fact that you can't really get a toll booth position on it. So tollbooth position is what infusionsoft had when it first came out. The pain of disconnect from that software back in the mid 2000s was really high. They were the only people in the game.

If you sell one of these machines, like a rife machine or something like that to a doctor's office, you get paid once. But if you manufacture a drug and have a patent on it, you're going to get paid for decades.

What the original investors did, Rockefeller is among them, is basically commissioned this report called the Flexner Report. And they went around and basically had a series of public debates and things against electromedicine. And then they lobbied Congress with this using information, this report that was all kind of presented in not a great way towards electromedicine to remove the curricula from medical schools. And they rolled up all the schools, medical schools, university. So prior to this you could just go to like, there'd be like a medical school just wherever, you know, it wasn't affiliated with the university. So they rolled up the independent schools in the universities and then they took the electromedicine curricula out of, of the, of what was being taught and it disappeared from, from the record. It's just, it's no longer there. And so how does this matter today? Well, basically below every chemical reaction in your body is an electrical reaction. So you can actually just go straight to the source and skip dealing with a lot of different supplements or drugs or things and just add energy to your body directly and it'll reverse a lot of stuff at a base level because below every chemical reaction is a Physics reaction. So the way it goes is a healthy cell is negative 22 millivolts, and to make a new cell you need about negative 55 millivolts. And disease cell is positive and you need to add electrons to that to fix it. So bear with me here. So vitamin C is an electron donor. Antioxidants or electron donors are teeming with spare electrons. And when you have free radicals in your body that the things that kind of bang around your body and cause oxidative damage, those are electron stealers. So if you correct the electron deficiency, then you correct a lot of damage going on in your body. So there's different ways to do this directly. So one that I've got a couple friends doing and I've done is something called cranial electrostimulation. Have you ever heard of this?

I think you brought it up on the last one. Possibly.

Yeah, really cool. But basically you just clip these little things to your earlobes and it tickles little micro volts of current across your brain and that stimulates the production of beneficial neurotransmitters. So this has been used to reverse ptsd, depression, anxiety. One of my friends that I got on that was dealing with crippling anxiety completely reversed it within three weeks.

What's that called again?

The cranial electrical stimulation. But I'll go one better and I'll just tell you where to get one. Because some of them, they go in price for thousands of dollars and they have weird patents and stuff. But the best one that you can buy is from a company I mentioned before. It's called Soda S o t a soda.com and they call it the Biotuner. And they're a company out of Canada and they make one. This technology is originally smuggled out of the Soviet Union in the 70s through Hong Kong.

Gotta be good then.

One of the cool things about it is that it cures addiction instantly.

So that's pumping these, what, micro signals?

Yeah, yeah. So what happens is it's just pumping a little bit of DC current across your brain and it's correcting electron deficiencies. So let's look at how you can help your brain. You can take certain types of antioxidants that will cross the blood brain barrier and there's very few that do. And they donate electrons to the cells that are missing them. Right. And that's, that's literally how it works. Or you can say, you know what, I don't even need to worry about that. I'm just going to add electrons directly and that's that's what a CES device does. So, you know, in biohacking, when they're talking about like going out in the sun or like the paid version of that, which would be the joov light, like I have a couple of those. Those are, those are near infrared. Those shoot electrons into the first few inches of your tissue. And so they help reverse electron deficiencies going on. So it's a direct, essentially antioxidant pulse electromagnetic field therapy, which is like the magnetic kind of therapy you'll run into sometimes where it's just literally a pulse electromagnetic field. There's small ones, there's big ones. Same thing.

They induce an electrical charge in your tissue and. Correct. They donate electrons. And then so all these problems at a very base level start to become corrected.

Right, so is this. Because I, you know, I've definitely explored quite a bit of biohacking stuff. Is this getting down to like the mitochondrial level that, you know, with these electrons.

Yeah, it's actually below that. So.

It, I mean, because it goes down into like an atomic level. But.

It will, so it'll speed up the ATP cycle that the mitochondria, the cellular respiration, basically the process that they're in. So whatever that cell is there to do, it's going to do it better because it has electrons donated to it.

Gotcha. And this is all taking Everybody back to 8th grade science Chemistry class now.

Yeah. There's easier ways to explain it because it gets. Because there's a lot involved. So it's basically.

Here'S a super easy way to explain. It's really cool too. So every cell in your body replaces itself within two years.

Wow. Okay. A lot of cells. So there's a lot of stuff happening.

Well, so your DNA renews itself every two months. Your skin renews itself in a month. Your blood is four months, liver is six weeks, brain is one year, stomach lining five days, your bones about three months. Okay, so you have a choice with those. You can give them the right ingredients and energy to build younger cells, basically, or you can eat crap and not give them a lot of energy. And you're going to rebuild older cells and older looking cells. So when my brain was shot to hell, you know, I had a poor diet. It was stunted from cortisol, which shrinks your left prefrontal cortex.

I knew I had to rebuild it. So one of the ways you do that is by giving it good fats. Because your cells are made out of phospholipids and there's two of them and they have A positive. There's two shells, and they have a positive and a negative charge because your cells are like little batteries, and you have to give them the right kinds of fats in order for that to happen. If you're eating trans fats, which you would recognize out in the public looking at a food label as partially hydrogenated fats, what those are from is from food manufacturers. They were losing profits due to food spoilage, and they found out that if you boil fats for basically five or six hours, they are one molecule away from plastic and they last a lot longer. What happens when your body needs to rebuild new cells? It'll use whatever is available. So if trans fats are what you've been eating, it'll use that. But the cells are like plastic, which is an electrical insulator, and they can't quite get what they need. And so this will cause a lot of brain inflammation and brain fog and things like that. And so if you're eating high quality fats, like a good example of this is, you know, bulletproof makes like something they call brain octane, which is just highly distilled coconut oil, like MCT type oil. Yeah, that's exactly what the type of fats that your brain needs in order to have make these good cellular batteries.

As I sip on my blended coffee with ghee and mct. Go on, sir.

That's exactly what you need. So you can actually regrow your brain in a year.

Just through what? So walk us through that specifically, would that be just feed it fats at a constant rate?

I was gonna say good, because Joe's is getting pretty small.

That's why I got a large copy, brother.

Yeah, what you would want to do is eat really high quality fats. So you're already doing it. You're doing the ghee, the MCT oil, and there's obviously other ones like avocado and stuff that everybody knows, but those would be the two main ones. And then you would want to provide it some other building blocks as well to help it do that. So humic and fulvic acid would be a big one because those help the electrical charge gradient in your cells. And I'll expand on that in a second. And then you would want to add energy to help the cells regrow, because that takes more voltage to do that. So in the past, people were running around barefoot, they slept on the ground. And so you're getting a direct electrical charge from the earth. It's measurable. You can stick a voltmeter in it. It's 7.83 kilohertz. And it's a strong negative charge. So it's an electron donor. This is what earthing or grounding is. And they're exposed to a lot more sunlight. That induces an electrical charge in your tissue as well. And that provides an electrical benefit. But it's. I think last time the EPA did a study, it was something like 97% of North American's day is spent indoors. You know, so we're just. You don't have that. So you need to figure out a way to add energy. Another way to add energy is. Are you guys familiar with the term piezoelectric?

Nope.

So if you take a quartz crystal and you squeeze it between a pair of pliers, it generates an electrical charge.

What the heck.

Yeah. So that's what's right. That's why quartz is using like wristwatches and stuff. That's piezoelectric. Well, the fascia, which is this tissue that goes throughout your entire body, is also piezoelectric. So mechanical stress produces an electrical charge. That's the other way that our bodies got charge in order to regrow cells. So exercise and movement is something that generates electron donor activity in your body that helps your cells regrow in a.

Healthy way through that. That pressure, the breakdown, all the stuff you're doing to your body through working out.

Yeah, exactly. So like if you're. And it doesn't have to be vigorous exercise like walking, yoga, just doing movements. If you're sitting in your chair, like micro movements will produce voltage in your fascia and it's an electron donor.

That's. That's pretty cool. That's interesting about the whole quartz thing and the correlation of fascia, because I know like for a long time I had just super shitty movement in my neck and it caused all these crazy headaches. I think, Matt, you. You relate in some regard too. And I couldn't, like for the longest time, I couldn't even freaking sit in my chair and work and in like focus because it would just pull from my neck to the front eye, like my right eye. And it wasn't until I really did a lot of fascia work. I did a lot of this body stuff, Rolfing is what I did a bunch of sessions, like 10 of them. And it freaking snapped all that stuff into place, of course maintain it. But yeah, I could see just even at a tissue level, like a tension level. There's a lot you could do to help your brain just feel better.

Yeah, I did a lot of Rolfing too. I did what, Whatever they call the 10 series, like the really hardcore one.

Yeah.

But we. Can we define Rolfing because I'm not actually familiar with it.

It's when. I don't know. I don't know the actual term, but it's fascia movement. I know there. It's working on fascia in different parts of your body.

So is it like stretches? Is it like.

It's kind of like a massage. Ish thing, but it's not a massage. Like literally one of them. They put a finger up your nose.

So. So does it.

This is a good one.

Similar to like a massage meets like acupressure and acupuncture.

Yeah. What do you. What do you think, Theo?

I would say it's. Yeah, I mean, it's like really intense. So if you don't know what fascia is, it'd be like. It'd be like a prison massage. It's like super, super hardcore. It is hardcore uncomfortable fascial manipulation. The idea being what that whole theory grew out of was the fascia is also a communication system in your body. It uses water primarily to transmit the signal. And so you can reestablish the communication systems in the body by manipulating the fascia.

But it's very uncomfortable.

Yeah. In a weird way, like we mentioned the nose one. You said you liked that one. It's interesting because literally I'm putting my finger up my pinky. I think it got all the way to the second knuckle. Not my finger, but the.

So you got the finger up there and scratched your brain a little bit.

Yeah. Tickled my brain. No, but it released. It's wild because.

Immediately my brain felt fired up. For a good week, I felt like I smelled way better than I ever did in my life.

Does it have to be done by somebody else or can you do it to yourself?

I can't answer that.

Or is that like something that's very.

Like there are some self manipulation techniques. Like.

There'S a device out there called the fascia blaster and the creator takes a lot of heat.

Because. Probably because she's been so successful, but like they have a massive Facebook group and a lot of people.

Report like, you know, pretty crazy results with that thing. But I think if you're gonna explore it, go to a professional.

Yeah, for sure. Because it's. There's a lot of different things to it. Gotcha.

Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, the reason I related it to sort of like acupuncture. Acupressure is like how you know when you touch like one point, it affects A different point completely somewhere else on your body.

Like, literally. Like, I remember part of those sessions they would work on my feet and she was like, yeah, that's releasing your neck tension right now. Yeah, like, so it's things that don't seem connected, but fascia is totally, like, connected to everything.

Yeah, I mean, that's, that's what acupuncture meridians are. And this kind of brings it back to the whole healing is voltage thing. Right. Like, acupuncture meridians are just nerve bundles and nerves are designed to transmit electrical impulses. So, like, if you look at that cloaked in the Chinese language, it's 4,000 years old. It's like, it's really confused, confusing, but they're just, they're just nerve bundles. And so there's actually ways of correcting voltage in the body that use the acupuncture meridians to deliver microcurrents to your liver if you have fatty liver disease, or to your heart if you've got heart problems or, you know, to the brain. And like, you know, that point could be on your wrist or something, and it just, it travels through your body to correct that.

Gotcha.

Wild. I love how that stuff. So everything's connected, but the fact, now there's electrical. We all have this electrical field that's been measured as well. But I guess it's. The fascia is really where it's at.

Yeah, I mean, the fascia, it's a part of it. And the fascia, it's an important communication network in the body too.

And it uses structured water to do that, or what scientific literature calls ordered water. And which that water has a charge to it, and that's how the body uses the water is an electron donor. So, you know, that brings up a good point, like other ways to increase voltage in your body. Like if you're drinking a soda that's highly acidic and that's an electron stealer. Whereas if you. What people call alkaline water, that's an electron donor. And so it's teaming with electrons, it's electron rich. And so when people start juicing, a lot of times they'll be like, oh, my God, I'm on day three and I feel amazing. It's not from the micronutrients in the vegetables because those are pretty much gone these days anyway. Even if you buy organic, the soil's been stripped. It's from the electrical charge in the water. Because plants and vegetables structure the water. They take the sun's energy and they add electrons to the water. That they contain in them, and that's what you're drinking.

Does that go back to that hydrogen tablet you mentioned the last episode? Hydrogen water dropping, that little thing?

Yeah, that's a part of it. Yeah. I mean, I actually just.

Did a nice promotion on that stuff.

That's a fascinating thing. But basically it's a massive electron donor. And so. So if you're not going to. If you just want something quick and you have a lot of brain inflammation, which a lot of entrepreneurs do, because a lot of people don't know this, but cognition increases the amount of free radicals in your brain, which causes oxidation, which causes brain fog and sluggishness. So if you can reverse the oxidation in your brain with an electron donor or an antioxidant, you're going to have less brain fog. And so by far the best one is molecular hydrogen, because the hydrogen molecule is so tiny, it just crosses the blood brain barrier in minutes. And then it brings inflammation down. You get this sense of calm focus, and then the byproduct of it reacting with the free radicals is water. So it also hydrates your brain, too. And if your brain's dehydrated, the synaptic gaps are further apart, and it has to do more work for the electrical signals to cross the synaptic gap, which makes you feel slow and sluggish. Right. So you're kind of getting, you know, killing two birds with one stone there.

So are you, basically, because this is kind of funny, because I mentioned my mom. Listen to this episode. She loved it, and she actually bought the hydrogen, like, tablets before I did. She's like, hey, these are the ones that Thea recommended. Here, take, like, half.

So I was like, thanks, Mom. Have you been taking them?

I actually. I'm not in a routine, and I forgot to. But this just reminded me I've taken a handful, and I think they're great.

Do you notice a difference or does it. Is it.

I don't think it's immediate, but I'm sure if I kept up with it, I would.

Yeah, I'm just kind of curious because, like, you know, let's. Let's say somebody gets, like, headaches every once in a while.

Would.

Would taking that potentially help with that kind of thing? Or, like, because you mentioned. You mentioned when the brain's dehydrated and I'm. You know, a lot of times people believe that headaches are from dehydration. I don't know if it's related or not, but.

Well, here's the thing. What's weird about Water. And I interviewed Gina Brea. She wrote a book called Quench. And she's essentially like the world's leading expert on ordered water for the layperson.

And her book is wonderful, if anyone wants to grab that, if you really want to delve deep into this subject.

But what's the title of the book?

Quench.

Oh, Quench.

Oh, that's actually the title. Yeah.

Yep. And water needs to have the right electrical charge to cross the blood brain barrier. And so what happens is you have these people that like, oh, I heard I need to drink more water. So then they'll just drink a bunch of tap water.

Oh, God.

They'll get these. They'll get this plastic jugged water from the grocery store or whatever, which has its own problems because plastic is photosensitive, so photo degrades. And so you're getting all these plastic molecules in your water, which not only disturb the steal electrons, but they also are estrogen mimickers. And so you're introducing like a powerful source of estrogen to your body, which has its own problems, all the hormones. Yeah, yeah. So water has to have the right electrical charge to cross your blood brain barrier to properly hydrate your brain. So if you're not getting that, your body has to do a lot of extra work to order the water molecules before it'll go across the barrier. And there's an energy cost to that. So what's the short answer? Go to any store in North America and get some spring water in a glass bottle.

And there's. There's several different, you know, sources of that.

That's because that'll. That will still have the charge. It will retain it for a year or more, and that'll do it. And then there's other ways of structuring your water at home. Some of them you can use a little bit of Celtic salt and it'll actually add a negative charge to it. So when I wake up in the morning, I'll take a little bit pinch of Celtic sea salt, stir it up, and then my water's charged, I take it, and that immediately hydrates me. You can use, believe it or not, pulse electromagnetic fields to structure water, because you're adding energy to it, you're adding electrons to it. You can use sunlight. So there's these bottles that are blue. I interviewed this lady, blue bottle Love Caden, which makes these blue bottles that they only let a certain type of infrared light through. It will order the water.

It's all kinds of different ways to. You just have to add energy to the water. Yeah. In Some way. And you can do it mechanically, too. You can do it chemically, you can do it electrically. Like, there's all kinds of different ways, but it's a really big thing. I mean, if people are going to be going to seminars and stuff like coming up here, it's one of the best things you can do for your brain health is to keep properly hydrated all day.

So. Yeah, that's a good point. You brought up Celtic sea salt. Like, I put Himalayan sea salt, and I think I brought this up last time, is I got this from the book. Yeah. Own your own debt or own your life.

The Aubrey Marcus book. Just say the Aubrey Marcus.

Aubrey Marcus from on it. That's where I got that concept from, is like, hey, throw some Himalayan sea salt in there and a little acv.

You know.

He'S wrong about the Himalayan sea salt. I love the guy, and I listen to his stuff all the time. But the Himalayan sea salt, for men particularly, is not a good option. It's red because of the amount of iron it contains, and it's radioactive, which is.

I got to stop that. I dump my water. Yeah.

Because it comes from a part of the earth that just has a high radium content. And so is it going to kill you right away? No. But over time, is it good to be constantly exposed to it? No, because you probably have too much iron already. And the only way for men to get rid of it is to donate blood. And that's what causes a lot of heart problems in men, is because it concentrates in the heart tissue, and the heart is. I forget what it is, but it's like an order of magnitude more electrically active than your brain, which is why its electrical field projects out, like, 12ft from your body. So too much iron interferes with electrical signaling there.

Interesting. Okay, well, I'll be tossing that.

Yeah. So I switched to Celtic sea salt because it's. It's not radioactive or as radioactive. I mean, everything's got some. But.

Just for the.

Sorry, just. Just for the people listening, like, what. What's the difference between like. Like Celtic sea salt and just, like, sea salt that you can just buy that most people just buy, or like table salt? I don't really quite honestly know the difference between most of these different types of salts other than they come from a different location.

Yeah, it's how it's processed mainly and where it's. You know, where it's. Where it's collected. So Celtic sea salt is supposedly collected from an area that you're not going to have the Microplastics problem that's in the ocean and is very pristine. But on top of that, it's minimally processed. So when you actually get a bag of it, it's wet, and it contains something like over 70 trace minerals. And as we're talking about the electrical nature of the body and how your cells need a proper electrical charge gradient to get nutrients in and out of it, those micro minerals that the Celtic Sea salt contains assist with that. And so they're. A lot of them are ionic, which means they have exactly the right electrical charge across your cell membrane and basically charge up the little battery that your cell is.

Gotcha.

So a lot like table salt and stuff is not gonna have that. It's literally just salt, like the chemical salt and some flow agents.

Okay. Yeah. Not all salt is created equal. Yeah.

I mean, in our house, I think we've got, like, kosher salt and Himalayan sea salt. And all I know between the two of them is that one's pink and one's not.

But now I know more. Now I know more. That's all I knew before.

Salt's a super important one, man. I mean, everyone likes to talk about these expensive, fancy biohacks because they're sexy and, like, I have all that stuff, man. But the best ones are often, like, really inexpensive and. Or free. And they're basic, but they work so well. I mean, like, a little pinch of salt in your water in the morning is literally one of the best things you can do for your brain health.

As long as the right kind of salt.

Right.

The right kind of salt. And, you know, another thing people always skip is iodine.

Really?

Which is fricking crazy, because iodine can increase your IQ dramatically.

Yeah.

It's also what they give people if they think they've been exposed to radioactivity.

Maybe there's a correlation.

Yeah. Your thyroid takes it up, and it will block a lot of the radioactive activity. But if you guys are looking for a really good iodine, I mean, especially if you're going to be in crowds talking to people, what's kind of unique about iodine, besides what it does for your brain health, which is significant. It accumulates in your nasal passages and it coats them. And so when you breathe through your nose, it kills viruses and bacteria on contact.

So explain the application of iodine. So that's actually up your nose?

No, no. When you drink it or eat it or supplement with. Goes throughout your body, but it'll accumulate in your nose tissue, like your mucous membranes. And its job is to kill Viruses and bacteria on contact when you breathe it in.

And so what form do you consume iodine in? Is it like drop, like a dropper you put in your water?

Yeah, yeah. So I use something called Lugol's solution, which is not a brand, it's just a type. It's from the 1800s or, sorry, 18th century. And it was found that with the right amount of potassium, the charge gradient was perfect for it to go into your cells. And there's a company called Mother Earth Labs and they make, in my opinion, the finest Lugol solution available. And you take 10 drops of that dissolved in some water in the morning and you're good to go.

Nice, sweet man. So a little Celtic salt and our Celtic salt and iodine. Good to go in the morning.

You could mix them together. Yeah. Because that'll, that'll, that'll be a strong electron donor. And then if you have some free radicals scurrying around your body that morning or you're about to be exposed to them, that'll help dampen that effect. It'll mitigate that.

Cool.

Yeah. Celtic salt is what falls off the basketball players.

Yeah.

What else do you want to cover, guys?

Well, I want to get into the. So you kind of touched on it already and we kind of talked about it a little bit before we hit record. But you know, seminar season, right. We're going to be going. Joe and I are speaking, what, five times in a month, in a one month period starting in March. So a lot of people listening are be coming to seminars, traffic conversions coming up. Podfest is coming up. There's a lot of big events coming up in the digital marketing space. And they're draining, Right. They use a lot of energy. You're talking all day. You typically stay up late. A lot of people are traveling to get to these events, which already creates wear and tear on your body.

New illnesses are around you.

Everybody seems to get frickin sick when you go to these events because you're packing 5,000 people into a single location and inevitably a handful of them come sick. So, you know, let's talk about some of that, that preparedness for these seminars.

Yeah. So let's start with the fun stuff and how to mitigate alcohol if you're gonna have any activated charcoal. Yeah, well, that's, that's one, you know, and it works. But you know, the issue with activated charcoal is it's such an aggressive binder, it can pull out nutrients.

Yeah.

All the good stuff.

Yeah.

I've kind of backed off on the activated charcoal. These Days, but I mean, I would say one. It starts with being hydrated, obviously. So if you can find spring water and glass bottles, that would be ideal.

Other than that, you can partially structure your water by carrying around a little packet of Celtic salt and put a pinch in your water, whatever it is, and dissolve it and drink that. And so you're already ahead of the game. And that's really easy to travel with. And it makes a huge difference. It's just not a lot of people talk it because it seems so simple. So. And then the other thing you could look at really is what you're drinking. So the most distilled spirit is gin. That's. Well, I mean, Everclear, but I don't think you're gonna find Everclear. Yeah, so gin or a non wheat based vodka are gonna be the cleanest alcohol you can, can find.

So is that the idea, like inflammation? Basically, it's not gonna hit you as hard.

Yeah, it's just like beer and wine are the least processed and they have all the byproducts in them still. And that's what causes a lot of the hangover and the headaches and makes your body work harder to process this stuff.

So, you know, choose your spirits wisely. I know you guys are beer guys, but I mean.

Because you always have your party at the brewery and I always go there and I can't, I can't drink.

Well, the funny, the funny thing is Joe and I actually very rarely drink beer, but we're involved in a couple different beer businesses because at one time we did, but like, I probably have one. I probably drink beer like every three months maybe. Like, I'm just not a drinker.

Just bring a flu. Just bring a flask next time.

You want to know what's crazy about beer is that the hops in beer is highly estrogenic. And, and there's actually whole documented incidents back in the day in Germany when they'd have women go, go out and harvest in the Hobbs fields, wherever they were at in their monthly cycle. It didn't matter. They would start menstruating because the estrogen was so high and the air is getting into their bloodstream. So, you know, on top of alcohol itself being estrogenic, the hops is highly, highly, highly estrogenic.

So good thing we're not hop farmers. And dude, I thought you said we were gonna start with the fun stuff. This is impressive.

Yeah, okay, so you're right, you're right. So anyways, a little pinch of Celtic salt and then if you Just want to get straight to the point. You should supplement with glutathione. There's a company called Live On Labs, L I V O N Labs. It's pretty expensive, but it's worth the investment. It comes in a little packet and it's, it's like a liposomal and you can take it straight from the packet or mix it in some water. It tastes really bad, but it's a super potent antioxidant and a block most of that. And then on top of that, if you can find a supplement that contains something called N acetylcysteine.

That will block some of the negative effects from the alcohol aftermath. And that's, you know, that's after that you should be good to go. I mean, obviously way too much. Take some charcoal at the end of the night.

Yeah.

Do you even drink anymore yourself or doctor?

Not really, man. I mean I just, I don't even have coffee anymore and. But the other day I had a drink and it's actually really enjoyable because I just hadn't had one so long and one thing I don't like is when people get into biohacking or health and wellness and they're so frickin serious about it. It's like, dude, like calm down. If you want to have a drink with your buddy, just have it and enjoy the experience. I mean, community is one of the biggest indicators of longevity anyway.

Yeah, that's right.

Yeah. I mean, I've for the most part phased out drinking in my life. I mean, other vices have sort of overtaken it more. But we don't need to go there.

We've been there before.

Yeah, I think we probably went there in the last episode.

Yeah, we did.

But yeah, that's good advice. So outside of the drinking portion, like what, what sort of advice do you have next as far as the talking all day and the being on your feet all day and.

Yep, yep.

So if you have time to prepare, I would start with a base supplementation routine. And this is just. These are nutrients that like literally everyone should supplement with. And there's a huge problem of nutrient deficiency in North America. So if you have time to start doing this a few days or weeks before your seminars, you should supplement with vitamins A, D and K and in the right proportions. So try to find one that contains all of them or take them all together and there's reasons why you need to take them all together, but we're not going to get into that.

So what are your thoughts on multivitamins then? That might have all of these in them.

Terrible. Yeah. In nursing homes those are called bedpan bullets because they're not even very bioavailable. And the problem with multivitamins is they don't contain, contain the right amount of nutrients in the right proportions to each other. So you know vitamin D, you gotta take a vitamin A to prevent calcium deposition on your arteries. Uhm, but you also have to take a vitamin K because it plays into that as well. Um, and that's vitamin K2. So you know, Thorn is a really good source. They have excellent versions of this Thorn. It's T H O R N E. They're probably going to be your best bet. Bulletproof makes all in 1 80k. And then.

Vitamin C, a huge one. Nobody talks about it because it's not sexy. Vitamin C is a massive electron donor and it especially works well at night because it helps kind of rebuild your collagen and just goes throughout your whole body. It's a large molecule so a lot, it doesn't cross your blood brain barrier but it does do a lot of other good for you and it's like really hard to overdose and you know, it's just cheap and it's available everywhere. Iodine you definitely need to take because it's going to boost your intelligence. That's a fact. And it's also going to prevent a lot of viral and bacterial infections. Krill oil, that's a no brainer, That's a super potent brain anti inflammatory like we covered earlier in the call. Thinking a lot, using your brain a lot, talking a lot, creates a lot of free radical activity in your brain which is oxidative stress. And so you need to bring that oxidative stress down so you don't feel sluggish and have brain fog. So that's going to be krill oil.

So it's krill oil. Is that similar to like a, like a of fish oil? Is that like omega threes and stuff or is that something completely different?

Yeah, it's similar. I prefer krill because it doesn't have the toxicity effects of some of the fish oil. And krill also contains something called astaxanthin which is a specific antioxidant that shellfish contain. And when you get it in supplement form and krill oil, the astaxanthin protects the oil from oxidation. And so a big problem with fish oils is a lot of them are rancid by the time you get them.

Oh lovely.

That's why that burp tastes.

Yeah. Because they lack the, they lack antioxidant protection in while they're in the stored in the capsule. So it's just easier to tell people to get krill oil because you're. Then they're just not going to deal with the rancidity, which will actually just add oxidation to your body.

Sure.

Magnesium, I mean, guys, it's something like 80% of people are deficient in magnesium in North America. It's really bad. It's involved in over 300 enzymatic processes in your body and for most people, because they're deficient, you're not going to want to take this one until night because if you are deficient, you're going to feel relaxed and tired and you're going to want to look for magnesium glycinate or taurate. And if you want to go, you know, one level above that, then you're going to get ionic magnesium, which is superior to all forms because your body doesn't have to do any work to use it to convert it into an ionic form, which basically means your body needs to take these other forms apart, break it into smaller pieces and give it the right electrical charge to get it through the cell membrane. Ionic will just go right in there. So like the hydrogen supplement I talked about.

Yep.

It uses ionic magnesium, which is pretty neat. And one other thing about magnesium, for people that are going to seminars.

Those hotels are full of wi fi and a lot of non native emf. And we covered this in the last podcast. It does actually do physical damage to your body to be exposed to that, especially all night. And it will affect your cognition energy levels the next day because it holds your voltage gated calcium channels open, which is the same thing that coffee does. So you're just not going to sleep as well. Magnesium actually protects you from that, which is really cool. And stress burns magnesium too. So if you're stressed at these events, you're burning a higher than normal amount of magnesium. So you have to take it zinc and copper. This helps with your mood and immune, particularly serotonin production. So and it also will help boost your immune system.

And then your B vitamins, which, you know you're gonna, you're gonna want to get methylfolate and methyl B12 and make sure you use those. So for people listening to this, they're just like shit, you know, seven, seven to ten different things this guy just talked about. This is outrageous. I got you. So you have an option. It's. Some people are gonna think it's gross. Some, some will be intrigued. But you can get desiccated liver supplements.

Ooh, sign me up.

And there's. There's two places to get them. So perfect supplements, it's just literally perfectsupplements.com they have a great undefatted Argentinian beef liver supplement. Desiccated. And then there's another company called Ancestral Supplements. They're a little bit. They're newer and, you know, you'll see them around a lot on social media these days. Both are excellent.

So what is desiccated? I actually, I'm not familiar with that term.

Dried.

Dried. Okay, gotcha.

Yeah, yeah. It's in capsule form because a lot of people don't. Can't hang with. Well, you can't travel with. I mean, you're not going to, like, board an airplane with, like, raw liver.

So if you get. So apart from the krill oil, it will contain all of these. So you could just travel with desiccated liver. And you take four capsules in the morning and four at night. Your magnesium supplements. Supplement, you're good to go.

Oh, shit. All right, well, there's your hack right there.

Cool. Makes it a lot easier.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So because it contains everything and it contains everything in the right proportions and that.

That'll kind of help you. So I mean, that. That kind of helps across the spectrum. Right? That'll help with the. The sort of depletion your body has from all the travel and all the sort of lack of sleep and the standing all day and the talking all day.

That.

That just kind of covers the gamut.

Yeah, yeah. Because to manufacture more neurotransmitters, you need these micronutrients that contains that. So I know the Carnivore diet is. It sounds. It sounds fucking crazy because, like, who are these people that are just eating meat all the time? Yeah, well, guess what, man? It's actually corrected a lot of cases of mental illness.

That's what I've heard, man. We know some people have done it too, and they've said the same.

And the reason why is because the micronutrients are extraordinarily bioavailable. They cross the blood brain barrier really quickly and they get in there and then it reverses these nutrient deficiencies that are in the brain that have caused these problems. So when you're at a seminar, you're meeting people, you're talking a lot, you have this large output of energy. Basically you got to think of what we just talked about as your base, your foundation, your home. And then you have to look at reversing some of the oxidative stress and so that's going to be. What are the electron donors? So that's like glutathione and vitamin C that we talked about.

That's going to be doing some movements. Even if you just go into a bathroom stall and you do 20 jump squats, you know, like, that'll move your fascia around and actually generate an electrical charge that's carrying around a little packet of that Celtic salt and putting pinches of it in your water. That'll donate electrons. And then we should talk about nootropics, too.

Yeah, let's do it.

Yeah.

Because, you know, and everybody likes talking about those. But you will hit a point where, you know you're gonna need the extra energy. So, you know, caffeine's one just of note. You know, caffeine, coffee can be very linear.

What do you mean by that?

It's just linear. So it's like you sit down and you're doing tasks and you're just knocking them out.

Where teas tend to be more creative because they contain L theanine.

Oh. So it actually gives you a different quality. Okay, interesting. If you want to get shit done, you know, like closers drink coffee. Yeah.

Well, because it's just robotic, it's very linear. So, you know, teas, teas have L theanine or green tea has a lot L theanine. So if you want to supplement with a little bit of a slightly more mild nootropic, but still very effective, depending on what dose you take. There's a company called Dragon Herbs and they were Ron Teagard and the owner, he's one of the very first guys. He was a direct marketer. He brought Chinese herbs to America in the early 90s. And he's vertically integrated. He owns the land that these herbs are grown on in China and he brings them back. He's got his own supply chain, but he makes an excellent nootropic that's not super hardcore called Diamond Mine. And one of the things that it has in it is L theanine among some other herbs. And I've found it's really, really nice because it's not overpowering. And it comes in a little dropper, so you can. You can travel with it. But for the more intense forms of nootropics, you know, there's a lot of the blends out there. Like Alpha Brain is a big blend.

You know, and all that stuff.

But on it and so.

Yeah, on it. On it again. And, you know, Bulletproof makes some too. So I would look the blends. The reason that the companies make the blends is because it's the concept individual biochemistry. They don't know what's going to work for a certain individual because everyone's biochemistry is different. So they just use a shotgun approach.

I prefer kind of experimenting a little bit before to see what works for you and then bringing that so you can always supplement with. And we talked about this before, but natural stacks, you know, they have their brain.

Supplements so that the dopamine, serotonin, GABA and acetylcholine. And acetylcholine is processing serotonin is a feeling that all's right with the world. GABA is winding down at night, which can be very hard to do at seminars. And then dopamine is drive and motivation. So if you're really worried about it and you have to keep up a sustained amount of energy all day, I would go to natural stacks and I would actually, if you buy them individually, it's pretty expensive, but they have like an offer for all four of them where it's like, it's quite a bit less expensive. I would delve into those. And then also, your brain's going to burn a lot of fuel at these things because you're thinking at a higher rate. And so I would carry. Nalgen makes these little plastic travel bottles that seal really well. The oil does not come out. And I carry around a little bottle of MCT oil. And the trick with MCT Oil, if you're going to use it as a nootropic, is you take like, I don't know, like a teaspoonful and you hold it under your tongue for 30 seconds to a minute. And underneath there is very vascular. And so that enters your bloodstream and it goes in your brain pretty quickly when you hold it there. And that'll give your brain some of the raw fuel that it needs.

So what was the. Is that the MCT oil brand that you prefer?

I've been bouncing around.

I'm not a horror for Bulletproof. I do think they have a good product.

For their brain. Octane.

Right.

But anything is going to get it done.

Yeah, yeah.

Because I know it's not a cheap one. If you get a cheap one, then it's going to give you disaster pants.

So I'm curious, how do we sort of reverse engineer what kind of stack works best for us? Because I've tried Alpha brain.

For me, Alpha Brain, to me, it didn't feel like it did anything. Like, I didn't notice any noticeable improvements. I didn't kind of go look back on the last like two weeks and go, wow, I was a lot more productive over those last two weeks or anything like that. To me, I just kind of felt like I was taking a pill and I had no idea if it was doing anything for me or not. Is there any way to kind of like sort of confirm this stuff is working or figure out what sort of stack works best for me?

Yes. So there is a test online for one and we're going to have to add it in the show notes because I can't remember it off top of my head. But it's free and it's not from a marketer, it's from a scientist. It's a super detailed questionnaire that you can answer and it'll tell you what neurotransmitters you're deficient in. And so you can start there to kind of bracket what you might need before you go.

And we'll figure that out and we'll put it in the show notes so people have it. I'll send you guys a link for it. The other thing that you can do is literally get the neurotransmitter precursors that we talked about from a company like Natural Stacks or any of the other ones that we've mentioned, and then take them before you go and experiment and see which one works and what doesn't work. The other option is if you just like, look, I'm in a hurry, I'm just going to go to this thing. If you need drive and motivation, you take dopamine precursors. If you need faster mental processing speed, do acetylcholine processors precursors and then serotonin, better mood, feeling that is all's right with the world and then GABA to wind down at night.

Yeah. Okay.

So those are the big four.

Now I know this is sort of a, it could be a taboo topic to some, but we touched on it last time we talked to you. What are your thoughts on sort of microdosing some sort of psychedelic before going to an event?

I think it's a great idea. So two things to keep in mind. So if you're going to do LSD or an LSD analog like 1 plsd, which for people listening, the reason that that one you can find on the clear net and not the darknet is because it differs by one molecule from actual lsd. So there's no law that says it's illegal. However, most people can't distinguish the difference. So the thing with LSD is it's, it's, it's Kind of like caffeine from coffee. It's, it's very rote and it's good for just getting a lot of stuff done. Whereas like 5 Meo DMT, like the active ingredient that you would find in psilocybin is, is more mood and social and talking and, and giving you energy to do. To do that. If I were to use either one of those at a seminar, I would definitely use 5 Meo DMT, which you can also get on the clearnet.

Because one of the problems with LSD or 1 plsd is that it basically makes you immune to alcohol.

That can be dangerous in that environment.

Yeah. Somebody did this at a war room event and just forgot that bit of advice and just started drinking with the guys and didn't feel anything and so just kept drinking and drinking and drinking and didn't feel anything and was just drinking just to have one in their hand.

Yeah.

And then later the one PLC wore off and then it just hit them all at once. Yeah, yeah. So whereas that is not necessary, that's not really the effect of 5 MeO DMT. So it used to be a company called the Surge that you could get this off of, but now it's called chemtheory.com and you can order it off of there.

Theory dot com. Okay, sweet.

Yeah, so I think those are, I mean, yeah, just remove benefits. Really good idea.

I'm blown away. So this whole time around this is. I've been kind of thinking back at this. The more you're thinking, the more you're creative with your brain, the more you're using your brain basically, is what it sounds like. The more you're inflaming your brain. And I've never thought of it that way. But after these podcast days, we're talking all day, we're consuming new information, we're asking questions. We literally feel like both Matt and I feel this way because we do.

Three or four in a day.

The evening, tonight it'll be clockwork. I'll feel like I'm almost coming out of a hangover.

My brain is without fail on podcast days. I literally felt hung over by the end of a podcast.

The next day is like in my previous life. I essentially was a face to face salesperson. I sold commercial real estate and I used to on days, right. I would have two or three clients or four clients that I'd have to meet in a day. I would feel like I got punched in the face because your brain oxidation is high. So it's now known that depression is conclusively. Linked. This has been clinically studied in randomized placebo controlled, double blind studies that brain inflammation causes depression. That is a fact.

That's huge.

That is a fact.

Well, that's a lot of like. Is that kind of like along the same lines with the football players who commit suicide after all the traumatic brain injuries?

Yes, yes. And that's also why, if you've had crazy brain injuries, like, you'll say crazy shit to people to get a reaction out of them because it gives you a spurt of dopamine because you're so lacking in these neurotransmitters that your brain knows it's lacking. And so you'll do. That's why people with head injuries will say or do crazy things because they need dopamine hits to keep themselves going. I went through that because I was previously a head injury guy. And speaking of bringing brain inflammation down, and we talked about some of the supplements to do this, like the hydrogen, the krill oil, MCT oil, vitamin C, things like that. For people that are more tech oriented and might have the budget that would accommodate this, you can use pulse electromagnetic field devices that are frequency based that you can travel with. I have one, it's the size of a deck of cards and it's called a 4 Flex Pulse. And what's neat about the flex pulse is it picks these different frequencies and it will. You literally put these applicators on your head, just throw them under your hat or whatever, and you can go back to your hotel room at night, switch this thing on and literally donate electrons to your brain. And you can kind of pick the state you want to be in. So what's really unique about it is it has a state. I believe it's. I think it's alpha theta. No, it's theta. And you pick that frequency. And this has been studied, clinically studied, double blind, all that. It allows you to learn at a much faster rate. So if you're having problems accumulating and assimilating this information that you're learning, you can literally turn this thing on and change your brainwave state. And you can learn and memorize stuff a lot faster. So some people will even sleep with it on and they'll have like a lecture playing all night or something like that.

This is similar to like the brain wave, because there's like an app that I love and I'm sure this is just taking it to the nth degree.

Yeah, yeah.

And then you can pick other frequencies, like you need to wind down so you can do the Schumann resonance, 7.83 hertz, or you can't fall asleep. You can do Delta 3 hertz, and you just put it under your pillow, and you're good to go. If you're feeling really sluggish and your brain's inflamed, you can bring inflammation down very quickly with 10 hertz, which NASA studied, increases neural neurogenesis by 400%.

So rebuilding of the brain.

Yeah, yeah. So it does that. And then the other option, if you want something that's less expensive, that thing's about 1300 bucks. You can get the bio tuner from Soda, which just uses microcurrents. So this isn't using a pulse electromagnetic field. It's using microcurrents. And so that's going to be an electron donor. And so what that's going to do is if you throw that on your hotel room for 20 minutes, when you get back there, it's going to wind you down, and it's going to help your brain balance out your neurotransmitters. So you can skip all the supplements, and you can just use an energetic or an electrical solution.

Love it. Dude, this is amazing.

This is awesome. Well, I think we should probably start to wrap up just because we've already taken more than an hour of your time. And we know we're gonna have you back if you want to be back. I think Joe and I have talked about it'd be really cool to have Theo come on as a recurring guest every other month or something and talk about the latest in and biohacking and what's new. So.

I think this is a pretty good stopping point. We've covered a lot of ground. And if people listening think this is a lot, make sure you get the notes on this one, because I can't wait to read back on all the notes from this one.

Theo and you helped a lot because I know you provided a lot of these resources links to us, and we actually gave them to our note taker. We're like, please put these in the notes. So they're extremely accurate and makes it very easy for people to find everything.

So, yeah, I'll find that neurotransmitter test and shoot it over to you guys, because that's a really important one because you can use that to calibrate what you might need. Yeah, and that'll be a good one. And, you know, for people going to seminars, too, like, the number one thing, if it's an option, is unplug the router in your room before you go to Bed. And then try to travel with the sleep mask too.

If you don't have to go expensive like you go on Amazon. There's a brand with a bizarre name called Alaska Bear, but it's like a silk sleep mask and it gets it done. It's like eight bucks. And if you just do those two things and take magnesium, you're gonna be good to go. And then the quick takeaway is like, all these supplements are great, but if you're down for it, do eight liver capsules a day, four in the morning, four at night, and that's gonna cover all your micronutrient needs.

Love it.

Very cool. I have a page full of notes, and I can only imagine the actual notes will be a lot more.

I know we asked you about books last time. We always ask, is there anything new that you're loving? Maybe books, resource or anything you're fascinated with?

Yeah.

Did we cover the book Thick Face, Black Heart last time?

That does not sound familiar, but we could have.

I've heard of the book. I don't know if it was from our last episode or if I've heard it from somebody else, but I don't recall.

I had an older friend of mine, he's in his 60s, and he's just a little local business service business guy. He's a piano teacher and he wanted more clients and he came to me. So I wrote him a direct response ad on Craigslist and he was blowing it when people call him. And I realized, like a lot of people, he had challenges with. With money. Right? It's just weird things about money. And I was like, look, you got to read this book. Dan Kennedy originally recommended this in one of his newsletters from way back. And it's a book called Thick Face, Black Heart. And the author is Ching Ning Chu. And it's hard to find and it is by far one of the best books that I have ever read. I can say for me, it completely changed. It is a turning point when I read that book and completely transformed my business. And it's based on a Chinese document from, I believe, end of the Qing dynasty, so somewhere around 1912. And it's fascinating, but it teaches you how to think about money. And it's absolutely zero bullshit, which is what I like. I like to get straight to the point. Like, look, you can take 100 different supplements, or you can just add energy directly to your body and you can do all this mindset stuff, or you can read Thick Face, Black Heart, which gets right to the point. And so I Had him read that book and it changed him.

Literally.

The next phone call he got was a Del Mar family and they sent him a check for 1700 bucks which for him a lot of money. He's really stoked and. And he got a new client and we're doing that and yeah, that book, I would do that one, man.

Cool. Definitely. Yeah. That sounds amazing. If it's affected you that way and him. No brainer.

I'm definitely gonna try to find out a copy.

Yeah, nobody knows about it. It's a book that came out in the 90s and I think it's. A lot of people aren't ready for the message because it's pretty savage.

And it's a female author, which a lot of people are surprised about. Cool.

Very good book.

All right, we'll figure out where that is and ideally link it up. I was just looking into my little scribed app and I saw someone uploaded the PDF to it, but it's not the official book. So I'm like, eh, probably don't want to recommend that.

I think that might be the document that it was based on which this is one of the. This is the only interpretation of it in English that I've been able to find.

Very cool. Well, can you remind the listeners where to go to find out more about you and to check out what you're up to and to grab your supplements and things like that?

Yeah. For folks that are dealing with burnout and you want to get some really in depth information with actionable tips on what to do right now you can go to www.burnoutsummit.com beatyourburnout and I've got five free videos on there that go every Saturday with some. We talk about the neurotransmitters and a lot of stuff that we covered on here, but in much more detail. And then for people that want to delve into molecular hydrogen and ionic magnesium, you can go to getSleepRepair.com and I have a really good offer running on that now with a free box and stuff like that. That would be a good one for seminars. But also people can. If you need help with something like I am here to help, I've been there and I reversed, you know, low energy and chronic fatigue and feeling hopeless. So people can always email me directly and I write everyone back personally. And that's theournoutdetox.com so that's t h e o@burnoutdetox.com awesome.

Sweet man. Yeah, we'll link all that up of course in the show Notes too, as always, man. Yeah, this is going to be a lot to marinate on and I am going to read the notes.

Yeah.

And anybody listening, we want your feedback. What do you think of the. The biohack topics and these kinds of topics? I want more of it. I'm hoping the listeners want more of it. But let us know. We love getting the feedback on this stuff.

And also write us to tell us what topics do you want to hear about regarding this as well, because there's a lot we're discussing, man. There's a million topics you can go down in terms of biohacking and burnout.

It seems like we haven't found a topic yet that Theo doesn't have intimate knowledge on. So reach out with the ideas of what you want us to ask and next time we bring you on, we'll have those discussions.

Let's stump Theo.

Stump Theo.

I appreciate it, guys. I know it took us a while to warm up on the body as electrical thing when we started because it's kind of complicated. But if the two takeaways people could take from this podcast episode is the top down approach, the mind over matter approach, it doesn't always work.

Unless your body's already healthy and most people's aren't, especially if you own a business. And so you need to address that. And the body is electrical. It's electrical first, then it's chemical and then it's mechanical. And so if you just address the electrical nature of your cells first, that's going to correct all the other problems down the road.

Makes sense. Can't think your way through it. Like you said last time, you know, it's. It's got to fix what's going on inside first.

Exactly.

Cool, man. Well, thanks so much for the time. You've been extremely generous with your time and information and we really appreciate it.

Appreciate it, guys.

Brother. Have a good one, man.

Talk to you soon.

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