Freedom, Faith, and Funny Business: Rob Schneider and Joe Polish on Courage, Culture, and the Fight for Truth
25 Nov 2025 · 62 min
Transcript of a long-form conversation (podcast) where Rob Schneider and Joe Polish discuss culture, politics, faith, and entertainment. Key themes: critique of media/elite institutions and ‘‘bad faith’’ actors; assertions about COVID vaccines and government/agency capture; the murder of Charlie Kirk (discussed as a catalytic event) and its cultural impact; Schneider’s personal background (Filipino mother, generational trauma skepticism) and his turn toward culture-focused activism; plans for Friendly Fire studio and a "You Can Do It" foundation to produce pro-freedom, family-oriented entertainment and town-hall style programming; policy interests include school food, teacher support, limits on gambling advertising, and protecting free speech. Tone: combative, evangelical-patriotic, advocacy-oriented. Content is opinionated and includes repeated rhetorical claims and allegations.
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We will not know the real effect of the murder of Charlie Kirk yet for many years and very much like Martin Luther King, he died serving others. He died trying to educate and inform and have discussions with people. When they can call you fascist and they can call Charlie Kirk a Nazi, even our lone leaders and call him fascist without any proof. I gotta go, hey, where's the proof? Show me the proof. And if they just, just crank out and just repeat lies and repeat lies, then that's Joseph Goebbels propaganda for propaganda's own a. If you lie like Jimmy Kimmel did and say that it was a right winger that killed Charlie Kirk, you can get temporarily fired by Disney and then put back because they're so scared of liberals. The plan was to never get us out of COVID We were going to go from one disaster to another crisis and never let a crisis get not taken advantage of. And that was the plan. And that still is the plan. What's the next crisis? Are we going to fall for it again? If they can get us to stop using our rational, logical mind and get us to be fearful, they can get us to do anything, including injecting an injectable into your body that they don't really. That they knew was not good for you, that they knew was dangerous, that they knew was going to cause pregnancies to fail, they knew was going to cause a myriad of problems, that they actually asked for a delay of the dissemination of, of the toxic, of the results of the test for 75 years. Luckily, because of people like Robert Kennedy, we were able to release that information and discover just how nasty this drug was. And that's why it took nine different plagues before the Egyptian pharaoh figured out what the hell Moses was saying. What do you wanted? Free my. Get that Jew out of here. He's spitting all over me. Editor in chief of the New York Times said to my friend, my moral imperative is to make sure Donald Trump does not become president again. In other words, I don't give a shit if it's true or not. What is these gay or should say trans issues and these drag queens show? Why are they in our kindergarten? Because that is the plan is to infiltrate and come as bad faith actors. Even the gay community has been captured by people manipulating it not for the best, but not to help the gay community, but to use the gay community as cover for their own aims, which is to destroy Western civilization. They just had to cancel a show, this new Doctor who show that was $11.8 million an episode and they canceled It. And they're not even gonna show it anymore because it was this, like, you know, there's drag queens in it and there's like trans heroes in it. There's like, you know, gay kissing in it. It's like, is this a TV show? What is this? What is the purpose of this? And it is an undermining of Western civilization. That's what it is. The Western civilization is being attacked from within. In this age of just rampant emotion, what do I get? What about me? I feel that I am a frog, you know, and a girl. I want to, but I feel I could be. If I dye my hair, you know, and let everybody. We can still see your balls. What are you talking about? Shave, at least shave. Dye all your hair. Try. Put on lipstick. All on all your lips, you know, so we are in an age of emotion.
Black Lives Matter needs racism in order for that to exist. And so there's a lot of. There's a lot of these things.
They need it to exist, the Black Lives Matter. Unless you can get people hyped up about racism, you can't buy condos or homes in the Bahamas if you're Black Lives Matters because that's what they did. They bought homes in the Bahamas for themselves with all the money from Black Lives Matter. So that. That's a real manipulation. People know that Disney isn't the Disney that we can just let our kids and turn. Turn it on. I mean, there. There is an ideology that they are trying to manipulate our children. And it's evil. We have to call it what it is. It's evil. Just because Disney's Disney. Now I. Before I can show my wife any movies but show our kids. I gotta go. Can we see it first before I find out what trans shit they're gonna show to us? So I can be. No, so we can at least fast forward through that part. The conservative multi billionaire and Zuckerberg don't pay taxes. Jeff Bezos doesn't pay taxes. Like, what do you mean? How do they do it? Well, they just borrow money off the stock and they live on that and they never pay taxes. Really? Can I do that? No, you don't have enough money to do that. So who is this society for? You know, Nancy Pelosi, $240 million in insider trading. Talk about no kings. How about she's been there for 20 elections? How about Schumer's been there for 30 years? How about those are the kings? I believe what Donald Trump is doing. Prevent a globalist elitist takeover of the world. To start another dark age for humanity. Trump's an incredible person. Is he a flawed person? Absolutely. So was King David. King David, look it up in your Bible. Murder, adulterer coveted another man's wife. But God's like, yeah, I know, I know, but that's my guy. But I felt terrible, like I'm sure all of you were when she broke her hip, because I had all my Money on Mitch McConnell and the broken hip pole at the office.
That was a good bet.
Yeah, yeah. It's going to be one of these audiences, I can tell. That's all right.
No, they will, they will. They actually love that.
I want to say about Joe Polish. There's a thing, it's. Western civilization is under attack. And if you agree with my friend Gad Saad, the author and I guess, Canadian philosopher, that it is suicidal empathy, we are under attack by having a free society that allows in people bad faith actors who do not have, do not come into our society trying to make our society better. They try to undermine it and destroy it from a sense of grievance, from envy and from not goodwill. And I find in Joe Polish the opposite. I find a good faith actor, and I think it's not talked about enough. Good faith actors, people who bring people together, people who. It's very easy to understand what a bad faith actor or what evil or bad is. And you could describe it and say, well, it's envy, it's grievance, it's hate, it's jealousy. It is people's own failure that they won't admit to. But how do you describe good? It's much more, it is much more interesting and much more elusive to describe it. Someone who wants to do good and bring people together. Someone who wants to make their. And leave something behind that was better than how they met it. Somebody who wants to enrich our culture. Someone who finds a problem and uses their own personal problems to figure out how to solve other people's problems. And that's what I find in Joe Polish. So thank you very much. Thank you, sir.
Thank you, man. Thank you.
Thank you.
And, you know, like, obviously I've seen a lot of movies you've been in. I've, you know, when I was a kid, I mean, just as many memories of that. And, you know, I saw you open up for a lot of, you know, one of the big events with Tucker, the very first Maha event. And that's when I first met you. And that was, you know, that was. Charlie Kirk ran that. And, you know, you're funny as Hell, you're very outspoken, which is you. You got big cojones, which is great. What I didn't realize until we actually spent time is how much knowledge you have of history, how you're a total freedom fighter, how you have literally taken a stand that has, I can't imagine, has cost you millions of dollars. But you believe in what you believe in, and you're. You are a freedom fighter at the highest level and. And have been thoroughly impressed. And every time I sit down and talk with you, I just get a much deeper understanding of who you are as a person. I mean, beyond the performance and everything. And I know this probably sounds like a silly question. Who is Rob Schneider? I mean, how would you. As cliche as that may sound.
Thank you. I come from an unusual background. My mother was a Filipino war survivor who survived the Japanese occupation of the Philippines, and she really was a survivor. And you know what's interesting about war survivors, and I'm still learning about it as Gabor Mate, the great Canadian doctor.
And he's been here twice, by the way, at the end.
Gabor is a great man, and we don't agree on everything, but he did a chapter about me which, you know, I don't particularly like because it's not very fond of me, but in his book, but he talked about specifically generational trauma. And I'm a very rational. I'd like to think I'm very rational, logical, and I'm like, I don't believe in such a thing as generational trauma, and I'm very wary of anything psychological because I think, like, as my friend John Cleese said, at the most, 10% of all psychologists know anything of what the fuck they're doing. And I believe that that's about right. So 90% of them is complete hogwash. And they're just simply, you know, as Alan Watts said, if they thought that they could to away with wearing white coats and thought they were actual doctors, they would do it, because they're not doctors. It is this weird psychology. So I'm always coming to this, like, I don't believe it. I want to know. And so he said to me, you don't believe in such, you know, generational trauma? I said, no, I don't believe it. And he said, so what is your mother? I said, what was one of the things your mother told you most about during the war, where half her family was killed during the war by the Japanese, yet she held no hatred of the Japanese? And he said, well, my mother starved and she had. She survived on sweet potatoes. Sweet potatoes Camote. So. And he said, you don't think that affected you? And I said, no, because I didn't starve. That wasn't me. And he said, so, you know, so what do you do, Rob? So tell me about what you do. He's Hungarian, but still, you know, the longer he's been in Canada, the worst his English gets. You know, it's a reverting talking like this. In two or three years, we won't understand jack shit or what he's saying. And he said to me, so tell me, Rob, you're a comedian, so what is that like? And I said, well, I travel to places and I tell jokes and, you know, I do my wares and, you know, most of the time it goes pretty good. Do you bring anything with you? And I said, food, I always bring food with me. And you don't think that has anything to do with your mother's situation where she's starving? And I went like, whoa, how much other stuff are we carrying with us? And so. But my mother was a fighter. And I will say, you want people like my mother in wartime because they learn how to survive. She tells me a story about yelling at a Japanese soldier because she walked three days. Because you're talking about America is the most unique culture in the world because we have a system that is not a caste system. In other words, in India, if you're born here, you're there for your entire life, and that's it. And that is true today for the very few entrepreneurs. They're up here, they had the opportunity. But if, in the Philippines, if you're here. And she said, you know, even our maids had maids. There's an ever descending group of poverty in so much of the world. It's unbelievable. And so she went and she, her and her mother had to survive. Her father abandoned her. She never met her father until she was older by accident. And so it was her mother and her brothers, and both her brothers were killed by the Japanese. And she had to take with her sisters and her mother old, worn down bed sheets and make pajamas out of them to go and walk for three days to where the farmers were who were the poorest of the poor. But all of a sudden, if you had food, you were rich. And she would make those pajamas and go trade them for the farmers. And she would carry them back two days later, take two days to come back. It was downhill from the mountain. And then she, with the basket on her head and one of the Japanese sentries took the biggest One. And she spoke Japanese and looked a little Japanese. She was yelling Japanese at that guy. And the. The. Who were the workers who were, you know, with her, who went. They were afraid they were going to get shot. And she caused such a commotion that one of the sentries, one of the guy in charge of the Japanese guy, said, you know, what's going on out here? She said, ka, you know, and other things like hama, ka. And he said, what? And she said, I've been walking for two days to get this big. The sweet potatoes from the farmers. I traded my pajamas and this guy. This guy took the biggest one. So right then, she could have been shot. And what the Japanese soldier did, he just. He took the biggest and he gave it back to her. So that's where my mother was. She was a person who. When she. They lived on sweet potatoes. She said, what my mother would do, she would take the sweet potatoes and add water and cook it and cook it and keep adding water until there was just nothing left. And then she would take the peels of the coffee and burn them and then add water because it looked like coffee. So that was our coffee. But she wasn't a pleasant person outside of the war. But that's who you want during war. So that's who I grew up with. This really tough lady. I remember my dad telling her, I said, you gotta throw this food out. My dad was this American guy, grew up in San Francisco. Pilar, you gotta throw this out. And she said, why? It's still good. Yeah, but it's got mold on it. Yeah, but we cut the mold off and we could make soup out of it. She said, no, no, no. This is America. We throw that away and we get new one. The same thing, but new. She said, my God, this is a incredible country. She hated anyone who didn't appreciate this country. You don't like America, get out, take your stuff, get out. Go back to where you come from. This is the greatest opportunity in the history of the world. If you work hard, you will make it. If you don't, so what? That's your problem. That's what I grew up with. And she hated that I dropped out of college because she. She said, you have an opportunity to go to college. And she said, my family found the only reason we were able to go to school, grammar school and Finnish high school was because my mother. Because my sister Rose and I found money that the Japanese buried in a cave. And my mother cleaned it as best she could, and that's what paid for our school. We Also found these things we thought were valuable and they were metal. We thought they were like metal pineapples. They must be valuable. We took them back and my uncle, my brother in law saw them and said, put those down. Those are hand grenades. We thought they were valuable. But anyway, so she said the other students knew that we came from dirty money, but I didn't care because I got to go to school. So she appreciated school and she became a schoolteacher. She taught for 26 years in the United States and she was the most American I've ever met. So I grew up with that. And I also grew up with my dad, who was, you know, the only guy in his family who graduated high school. So that was like a hell of an achievement. You just want to get out and you want to work, you want to make money. And that's this greatest opportunity that we have. And that's something that is under threat in America right now. We have to be careful. That's the thing about Charlie Kirk and I bonded over and I was very suspicious of Charlie Kirk in the beginning. I remember I was going over when he passed away. I went over, like, how suspicious my texts were to him originally because like, who is this kid half my age? What is the real plan behind this? And then when I spent time with him, I realized his plan was to energize the youth of America so that the freedoms of America and that this Christian country can continue for generations to come. And there was just like Joe Pollitz, there was no agenda except a love of country and a love of God and a love of family. And by the time I discovered that was this summer. And I said to him, I said, you're a genius. I said, you are our modern day founding father. That is a gift to this country. And thank God I told him that a few weeks before he died. And I also asked him if he would consider becoming Catholic. And he went, ha ha ha, ha ha ha. But there was an outpouring of generosity that he had. And to take young people. We will not know the real effect of the murder of Charlie Kirk yet for many years. We're not going to know. But that man represented so much to the youth because he knew that was the future. He knew that was our future. And so I was very honored that I was able to show up at a university and just see him do what he did best. And very much like Martin Luther King, he died serving others. He died trying to educate and inform and have discussions with people. Just like Martin Luther King died helping sanitation workers Have a decent living wage so they can take care of their families. And it wasn't until Martin Luther King's death that finally the mayor, I believe it was Memphis, agreed that it was unfair to not have a living wage for these hard, decent Americans who took care of something that most people wouldn't want to Other people's garbage. And they need to live and have the right to a decent life. And so I would say to all of us here, we in this room, entrepreneurs, we must help the young people in this country be able to afford a home. I talked to legislators this week about how we must help and punish companies like BlackRock, Vanguard, State street for speculating and rising the prices so that young people don't feel that they have a stake in this country because they cannot afford and don't believe that they can afford to own their own home and get a piece of the pie. If we don't help with that, we will lose. We will lose. We'll lose the next election and the one after that. The borders will open. We will lose everything if we do not help these young people, give them a piece of the American pie and stop this unbelievable spending that's happening in America where every dollar that comes in next year, we will have to pay. Every dollar printed, we will have to give $1.43 back. That is an unsustainable system. So I ask everybody in this room to do what we can to make the lives of these young people, improve them so that they can do. What we do in this room is get a piece of the American dream, Make more money than the government can take away from you. We must do it through agreement, because that's the difference between corporations. Corporations, we can agree. We come to an agreement. If you're selling something, you sell it. And the. The purchaser, your consumer, will agree that that is a good price. I really like the products that I heard before I was coming out here, so that's good. I want to find out. 99 bucks. I'll do that. That's an agreement. Governments don't agree. They compel. They make you. The government is going to continue to make us do things. We must fight back against the government continuing to compel us to do things against our will. And that is including how, when we met, was over Covid, compelling you to take a drug, an injectable, and there's never been a drug that's 100% safe 100% of the time for 100% of the people. If there is risk, there must be choice or we do not have freedom. We have tyranny. And that medical tyranny is something that was finally confronted by this. And very Interestingly is that 80 million Americans said, no, we're not taking it. So roughly a third. And if you think about that going back to the American Revolution, it was at the most, I think George Washington, General Washington, I think had 5%, 3 to 5% of people of the colonists. But interestingly though, it was roughly a third at the end of it when things started to roll. And when the French and Dutch helped us out, the Dutch were nothing but whores and they were able to. They would sell us anything to anybody. So luckily, they would sell us weapons. They were the first people to salute America and acknowledge America and then take our money, our gold for arms. And then thank God for the French who blockaded the British the most, the superpower. So, but just to give you an idea, it was a third of Americans that said no to Covid. It was a third of Americans that stuck with the British as loyalists. It was a third of Americans that were ambivalent. And a third of. Of the colonists supported the revolution. But a third was enough to defeat the greatest superpower the world had ever known. So that is a powerful thing as we move forward and to prevent what I believe what Donald Trump is doing, prevent a globalist elitist takeover and of the world to, to start another dark age for humanity. And that is my experienced opinion.
Well, that's a little bit of who Rob Schneider is. You know, I was. I think it's in here. Let me see. So I was going to grab a Kleenex out of my backpack and I went to some secret pocket on the side because we have, we, we. I gave you one of the Genius network backpacks that are really cool.
I love the genius award backpack, by the way. It's really great. I mean, it's just. It's better for my back because my back was killing me, my shoulder. So. Thank you. Yeah.
And I put. So I pull one this out and then I pull this mask out and I'm like, boy, what was this all about? Right?
Applying. Yeah, it is about. It is about appealing. And that was. We have. We must be aware of. And I would say that the, the just much like the movie that's coming out, Wicked too, or wicked for good or whatever, I don't like that they're using the word wicked. But we have discovered that there was an Oz behind the curtain and they must get us to be irrational if they can get us to use to Stop using our rational, logical mind and get us to be fearful. They can get us to do anything, including injecting an injectable into your body, that they don't really. That they knew was not good for you, that they knew was dangerous, that they knew was going to cause pregnancies to fail, that they knew was going to cause a myriad of problems, that they actually asked for a delay of the dissemination of the toxic, of the results of the test for 75 years. Luckily, because of people like Robert Kennedy and our own citizen here, Aaron Seri, we were able to release that information and discover just how nasty this drug was. But at the same time, you know, it was very purposeful because if it wasn't for that drug, we would have never. The plan was to never get us out of COVID We were going to go from one disaster to another crisis and never let a crisis get not taken advantage of. And that was the plan. And that still is the plan. What's the next crisis? Are we going to fall for it again? And I would say the United States is deeply, is wonderfully positioned because of our free speech that the government, even though under the Biden administration, the government did censor people day one, Robert Kennedy, the first person the Biden administration reached out to Facebook, to Google, censor that guy. Why are you letting him talk? And of course, Google went right with it and so did Facebook. That's why Mark Zuckerberg showed up at the inauguration. He doesn't want to get thrown in jail. So. But you know, Trump's an incredible person. Is he a flawed person? Absolutely. So was King David. King David, look it up in your Bible. Murder adulterer coveted another man's wife. But God's like, yeah, I know, I know, but that's my guy. He's got what I want. And I do this in my stand up act. And I'd say, what about Moses? Look it up. Moses, the stuttering shepherd. A stuttering shepherd. But God's like, yeah, I know, I know, he stutters, but that's my guy. That's who I want. And that's why it took nine different plagues before the Egyptian pharaoh figured out what the hell Moses was saying, what he wanted. Free my. Let my floods get that Jew out of here. He's spitting all over me. And I tell audiences, it's the same thing with Donald Trump. A deeply flawed man who got. Who else could take that crap? Who else could get arrested? 37 felonies. And then all these charges, slandered, all these accusations, shot in the face and get up and go fight, not knowing if there's going to be more guns or whatever. He said, that's my guy. That's my guy. Yeah. But, God, he's been very disrespectful to women. I know, I know, but that's still. He's my guy. He's called women pigs only. ROSIE o' DONNELL. It's one of my jokes. I'll be honest with you. That's. But it proves a point. We don't know God's plan. We don't. But listen for it, because you might get a whisper. There's a beautiful word, inspire. Inspire comes from the Greek. It doesn't mean, like, God doesn't go do this. He doesn't show. His inspire comes from the Greek, meaning God's like God's breath. It's not even a whisper. It's not even a nudge. It's this. Listen for that. Yeah, listen for that. And so while I have endured, you know, I haven't endured anything. Yeah, yeah. I've lost money. I don't get hired in Hollywood anymore. So what, just drive by the military cemeteries and go, well, those are people. I was in an American cemetery of servicemen in Italy two summers ago, and I walked through there and tried to look at every grave and say, thank you. These are the people who gave their last measure of devotion for our freedom. And that is something that is not acknowledged or not recognized by the youth in this. What's in it for me? Culture. In this age of just rampant emotion, what do I get? What about me? I feel that I'm a frog, you know, and a girl. I want it, but I feel I could be. If I dye my hair, you know, and let everybody. We can still see your balls. What are you talking about? Shave, at least shave. Dye all your hair. Try. Put on lipstick, all on all your lips, you know. So we are in an age of emotion. So what must we do? We must fight back through the culture to win the culture. Charlie was very aware of that. He knew that what's happening, which, if you want to listen to the. James, if you want to, we have the great Andrew Doyle, by the way. Back there is a British who's with our new company, Friendly Fire. He's a brilliant man who's from England who understands free speech and understands what happens when it's taken away. Like, what's happening right now when we have 12,000 people arrested for tweets in England a year, 12,000 arrested for tweets. We have a writer that works with us in friendly fire. Graham Linehan arrested coming off a plane landing in London by Scottish police. And thankfully, there was so much publicity about it and Elon Musk got involved and President Trump talked about it. They don't do that shit anymore, but they're still arresting people for tweets. So we have to change the culture. And I would just tell you it has to come from entertainment. It has to come. You have to show up. You have to show up at the. I'll be at Berkeley. I'm sorry that Charlie Kirk won't join me, but I said to Charlie last summer, let me come with you at the craziest place. And they said, okay, we'll come to Berkeley. And now I gotta go to Berkeley alone. Thank you, Charlie. That's his final joke on me. But I'm ready for it because I have love in my heart and that's what I offer. And so what's happened at academia was they realized that they were not going to take over communism, was not going to work from the worker. The worker was not going to overthrow the United States of America and therefore the world, because the workers realized that capitalism in all its imperfections does work, and it improves your life and it improves the life of your family. So what did they do? They infiltrated academia and used people who have grievances and envy to take over academia. And it's basically a 20 year plan. By 1970, they were in academia. By 1990, academia was basically usurped. And then they came into K through 12. And that's why, you know, during the pandemic, when people had time, they said, what are they teaching? What is these gay, or should say trans issues and these drag queens show. Why are they in our kindergarten? Because that is the plan is to infiltrate and take and, and, and infiltrate and come as bad faith actors to, to deprive of Americans of what we have stood for. Basic decency, freedom, freedom of expression, and the right to raise our children how we see fit. These things are under threat now. So what can we do? We have to work through. We have a new company that's called Friendly Fire. And what we're gonna do is we're gonna. Just Because Disney's Disney now, before I can show my wife any movies but show our kids, I gotta go. Can we see it first before I find out what trans shit they're gonna show to us? So I can be, you know, so we can at least fast forward through that part. And so I want to have an entertainment company. That's why I Like Angel Studios is because they don't have to do that. Angel Studios got sued by Disney for $60 million trying to make them go out of business because they would cut out some of the stuff that they didn't like that wasn't for Pro Family, Pro America, for freedom. And they got sued and they want to be. And they survived. And that is a good company. And so Friendly Fire is what we want to do. Friendly Fire Studio here is we're going to do entertainment that is Pro America and that is entertainment, but also supports the freedom that we want to continue to do. And our you can do it foundation also supports you can do it. We'll have a booth there. You can do it foundation also supports. What we're trying to do with the for profit company is to make good quality things and to do things with. The first show that we're gonna do is a town hall type form, which is basically what Charlie did and what Bill Maher attempts to do at times, have discussion. But we want to have students talk. We want to have. And we want to put it in a nice form so that we can get that out there to the people and have discussion and discourse. Because I want to hear good ideas. Because what we want to do is challenge our certainties. I want to improve. I don't want to just stay the same. And the way to do that is to have my friends like Andrew Doyle, like my friends Eric Verras, Nick Van Leeuwenhoff challenge me, Joe to challenge me. And then I have to defend it. I have to perfect it or maybe adjust or mold it or maybe throw it out. And that's the best way. If we're going to continue to have a society that innovates and leads the world in technology. If we continue to lead the world in freedom, then we must challenge each other. Otherwise, we cannot innovate, we cannot create. We must continue to do that or we'll be stagnant and be left behind. We must continue to create and have a free discourse to do so.
Thank you.
Thank you.
You were kind of giving me the state of Hollywood and what's going on there. And I'd love to get your perspective on what you think's going to happen. You did mention that it has to start with entertainment.
It has to. Culture is downstream from entertainment.
Yeah. And. And so the role of comedy used to be to make people laugh. Now it's, you know, it's what, being attacked? It's. Well, it's interesting, you know, because it was to. It was make people Laugh, question authority. And now you know it's under attack.
Like everybody supports authority. You, you want to be, you want to be a rebel. Well, if you're a liberal at a liberal university with liberal professors watching liberal news, where's the rebellion? You are part of the establishment. You are. That's what I want to tell kids at Berkeley. You want to rebel, become a conservative. That's rebellion. Your professors, you're just agreeing with everything your professor says. They're not even asking you to think critically. They're just cranking out advocates for a particular partisan policy that is illiberal in nature to continue the sense of illiberalism for power, not for anything else. They're not teaching kids to think and figure out stuff on your own. They just want to create a power base to continue this A lib nature. What do we have to do? We got to change it.
Can I, can I ask you when, when you, when we talk about they, who do you think they?
Elites. Power bases. The real power structure, the real money is majority liberal. Absolutely. Look at Google, Robert, Dr. Robert Epstein has said that Google suppresses, successfully suppresses conservative cause, conservative leaning articles and people. And Google suppresses it to the extent that it affects the vote of up to 11 to 13%. Look it up. He testified in Congress to that. So who is it? The moneyed people, they don't want that to change. As Zuckerberg continues to buy more and more property and underground bunkers in Palo Alto. That is the power base. That is, to who to rebel against. That is, they want this thing to continue because they benefit from it. So we must challenge it. We need to create an alternative to that and we must do it through working with young people to get them to think critically and get them to challenge what they're not being challenged at university. So I'm very excited about that. I'm excited because I think people are waking, I think children, I should say young minds are waking up to this and it is there. If we can get them to rebel against the authority and they realize the authority is the liberal intelligentsia that they are being cranked out as advocates for, I believe we can, we can change that. And I believe, just like comedy has been, I called it propaganda or politicalization by comedic imposition. In other words, they're not jokes anymore. It's just cheerleading an ideology, an illiberal liberal ideology that doesn't ask you to think that isn't really a joke. It's just conservative. Bad, yellow man bad. And I think people are bored of it. And I think you will see every studio that exists right now outside of Netflix collapse. Will Disney collapse? I don't know. But they're not gonna continue to be the same. You will see them lot after lot are completely empty because they no longer serve the flyover states, the 47 states. People know now that this ain't about me. People know that Disney isn't the Disney, that we can just let our kids and turn it on. I mean, there is an ideology that they are trying to manipulate our children. And it's evil. We have to call it what it is. It's evil. There is a rise in evil in the world. And if we don't call it what it is, if you just kind of this nebulous thing, then I think we are not going to solve the problem or attack it. There is an evil rise, just like there was a hundred years ago in Europe. And I remember there was an article in the New York Times that I read. It was a very old article and it said, like, they're just a bunch of bullies. They're never going to go anywhere. They will never be a threat. That was the New York Times in 1926 talking about the National Socialist movement. So when they can re. When they can call you fascist and they can call Charlie Kirk a Nazi, even our lone leaders and call him fascist without any proof, I gotta go, hey, where's the proof? Show me the proof that Charlie Kirk's a racist. Where's the proof? Show it to me. I want to see it. And if they just, just crank out and just repeat lies and repeat lies, then that's Joseph Goebbels propaganda for propaganda's own aid. What we must do is we must get in the culture and we must change the culture. We have to do it, and we have to do it with young people. We have to give them economic opportunity. We have to give them stuff that their children can watch so that they feel like, oh, this supports us. But unless they're stakeholders, why would they? They don't feel like they have to be involved. That's what led to the Russian Revolution was that none of the farmers, none of these, they were all disconnected from government. They didn't feel like they were just serfs. They didn't feel like they owned anything. They didn't feel any loyalty to the Tsar. So when that turned over, poof, gone. And the idea that this 249 year experiment in freedom is just going to continue without our help is an illusion. It does require our eternal vigilance. It does Require it. It is an exceptional thing in the history of the world. Freedom for the individual to speak your mind without fear of reproach, without fear of revenge from your government attacking you for your free speech. This doesn't mean it doesn't have consequences. If you lie like Jimmy Kimmel did and say that it was a right winger that killed Charlie Kirk, you can get temporarily fired by Disney and then put back because they're so scared of liberals. But there are. This freedom that we have is rare. And there is a chance that it could be a 250something year blip where there was an incredible amount of freedom for the individual. And then that was an exception in human history because very few human beings in the history of the world, in the supposedly 77 or 110 billion human beings that have been alive according to modern science, very, very few of them have been able to live in this incredible bubble of freedom that we have. And I believe that God has given that to us and that we must continue as the United States of America to spread that freedom out and do it wisely, not these unbelievable dumb wars that Bush got us into and Hillary Clinton and Obama. We must continue to expand this freedom and do it wisely, but this is it. Otherwise it will be a blip if we don't protect it. And we got very close, I believe, into losing more of it to where it would be the exception.
Yeah, you know, that's. So you said that America's the last stand for free.
Absolutely.
And I can now even get a deeper understanding with what you just said as to why this is so important to you in that if there's anything that needs to be taught, shared, demonstrated for young people, it's courage. What does courage look like? How. How does one develop and nurture that? And let me say it from this standpoint, because you have a lot of friends in Hollywood, in movies, Adam Sandler is your best friend. There's a lot of people that you probably, you know, still are friends with and others where you've completely separated the thing. And. But for you to come out at the level that you have, as outspoken as you are about this. And how long were you liberal your life?
Well, I was Liberal up until 2013 when I realized that tyranny was coming from the left. This time there was a new blacklisting happening. And all of a sudden we had a president who was elected a second time who was saying that racism in America has never been worse and that there's white. We're living a white supremacist country where if you're white, you're automatically racist. And I said, I'm half white, I don't feel racist. Yeah, it's because you're so racist you can't even feel it anymore. It's like, what?
Yeah. So this is not like you've been like this, conservatives talking about conservatives.
No. I grew up in the gayest, most liberal place there was, San Francisco. And I was like, and these were the nicest. All my teachers at San Francisco State University before I dropped out, they were all gay and wonderful people and they were all freedom loving people. And so what happened was even the gay community is under assault. Even the gay community has been captured by people manipulating it not for the best, not to help the gay community, but to use the gay community as cover for their own aims, which is to destroy Western civilization.
You see, that's the key right there is they use marginalized groups to make it look like they care about them when they're just using them. And it's like Black Lives Matter needs racism in order for that to exist. And so there's a lot of these things.
They need it to exist, the Black Lives Matter. Unless you can get people hyped up about racism, you can't buy condos or homes in the Bahamas if you're Black Lives Matters, because that's what they did. They bought homes in the Bahamas for themselves with all the money from Black Lives Matter. So that's a real manipulation. So we have a, you know, we have a culture now where we have like, you know, until Bobby Kennedy, you had the CDC was captured. You had, you, you had the FDA captured. You had a revolving door. You had, like Julie Gerberding, who was the head of the vaccine department, the vaccine division of the cdc. She quits and goes to work for the company that she just regulated, Merck. How does that happen? Where's the firewall? So we don't have that. We have our. We have the. The media is captured. The, the, the head of the. Well, the, the editor in chief of, the editor in chief of the New York Times said to my friend two years ago, he said, I believe. He said, don't you want to be objective in Your, in your CEO friend of mine, a CEO of a more Fortune 500 company, had a dinner with him and said, don't you believe you should try to be as objective as you can? And he said, I believe my moral imperative is to make sure Donald Trump does not become president again. In other words, I don't give a shit if it's true or not. We're gonna phrase everything we can with that in mind. So we have a captured media. Absolutely captured. We have captured academia, we have captured federal. We have federal agencies. So, I mean, at what point does it all collapse in on itself? At what point could we say, you know, Nancy Pelosi, $240 million in insider trading? Because you're, because you're, you know, talk about no kings. How about she's been there for 20 elections. How about Schumer's been there for 30 years. How about those are the kings. Donald Trump, you can say what he wants, but anytime some district judge who we never voted for stops, he does stop until he can get another judge to look at it. That's not a king, that's a president who's trying to advance an agenda because Congress no longer legislates. So that's where we're at. It's a broken system. Congress no longer legislates. They want to just give it to the president and let him rule by fiat, let him do executive orders, because they don't want to be responsible for making decisions that could stop their insider trading.
So what do you think the solution is as it relates to film and what you're doing? Because I'm actually, I mean, when you shared some of the scripts and some of the models of what you think, I think it's absolutely brilliant. So.
Well, we have to talk. I mean, this show that we're doing, Friendly Fire with, Andrew Doyle, who's in the back, by the way, is a terrific gentleman. He is a GB News, Great Britain News, the only conservative news channel over there, they lose literally tens of million dollars a month, but the people who own it care more than they care about their own money. They don't like losing money, but they realize the only way to advance free speech and to help affect the culture is to present things. Another point of view. Instead of just, you know, the BBC, which is another captured agency, we must attack it through culture. And we gotta have kids programs that promote, you know, the American dream, that families should stay together, that there's something about marriage that is beautiful. I mean, there is some legislation that I support. We need to fix here to stop pornography. Being children being exposed to pornography in the United States, the average American child. The average American child is exposed to pornography at age first exposure, age 11. 11. Is nothing sacred anymore? Should they be exposed to that? Can we stop that? So there is some legislation here, thankfully, in this state, and that's why it's important that we continue to have a Republican conservative legislation and hopefully we'll get a conservative governor next time. We must encourage that. And that needs to be safe. We need to have healthy programs. So the mitochondria so their brains are able to function instead of Cisco just giving frozen crap that's heated up and splashed out to the kids every day. And a lot of these kids in the Phoenix area, that's their one meal until they get home. So their brains aren't thinking. Thankfully, we have good people and they got the sodas and candies out. And then all of a sudden kids are behaving better. So there must be some connection between this crap, crappy food and their behavior. So maybe their ability to think at a higher level. If we give them farm fresh food to all the schools and Leo Bisiucci and Janae Shamp and I and others are working on that. And we have gotten bipartisan support, unanimous bipartisan support. And that's how we have to work things. If it's 100% positive for kids, you're gonna get support from the other side. And I'll work with anybody, AOC or anybody, even people I have no respect for at all. I'll work with you, absolutely. If you're willing to help kids. I don't care. I'll throw whatever. I'll sit with you, I'll talk to you, and we'll do that. And another thing we have to do is we have to stop the college kids. Did you know that the college kids are spending so much money on college boys on gambling right now that it's affecting alcohol sales? They don't have money to buy beer. That's a problem. That's a problem. And I want to encourage in 2026, I will. I am going to do a campaign with all my comedian friends and I want them all to make money. But don't make money giving somebody else a problem. Here, take that problem. Become a gambleholic. Spend your beer money and your book money and your dinner money and your food money on gambling. And that's what's happening. We need to stop. We can only do. We can't do it at the federal level. I've tried. We can't do it. We have to do it on the state level. And in this state, we have to say, hey, Indian casinos, God bless you. Make all the money that you want, but you cannot give away incentives to get people to start gambling. Hey, we're gonna give you 200 tips. Come on in. You can't do that. And also, you can't advertise anymore. If you can't advertise cigarettes, you certainly shouldn't be able to advertise to college kids. Every commercial on TV. DraftKings. It's an addiction. If we can't advertise fentanyl, why the hell would you advertise this other. This is a real problem. That's something we're going to handle and I'm going to help with. And I hope I can get your help too.
Well, so let's talk about that. You have the. You can do a foundation. We have a booth out there. What do you need in order to.
Well, we need help facilitate. I've been kicked out of show business. And the best thing could have ever happened to me because I know that the only way I can do it is from the outside. We're only going to be able to change the culture and we have to change it within it. And I don't want my programming. I love Ben Shapiro and I love Tucker Carlson. These who people I consider my friends. I really look up to them. But they have an echo chamber. And that echo chamber is here, and it's an echo chamber. What I need is I need to get liberals on board. I need to get people on the fence. I need to get young people. And the way you do that is through entertainment. The way you do that is by saying, I'm your advocate when we do town hall. We're not sure what the show is going to be. I want to talk to you about issues that are going to affect your life. And I'm not going to do it from a perspective of a conservative. I'm not going to do it from perspective of a liberal. I'm going to do it from a perspective of an advocate. I'm going to be your advocate to make you think about things from a rational, logical perspective. And I want to use your reasoning to your ability to reason. And I'm gonna come to you as a colleague, not as a teacher, not as somebody above you, not as an elitist, but as somebody who's your brother in this, your brother in Christ in this. But you don't have to use that word. But we should. But we're gonna do that and we're gonna do it the you can do it foundation. And we'd love your help because we do need it. Because I'm not taking any money from Hollywood. I'm not joining forces with and gonna get bought out by Lionsgate or Disney. We're gonna do this. We're gonna do it here. Jobs do shows right here and do things that can improve people's lives, can increase freedom, can help become an advocate for people to express themselves and to enlarge freedom. And if we could do it here in Arizona, we could do it nationwide and we'll have an impact. And so it's the Friendly Fires, our for profit, where the first production is coming up. The first thing we're going to do with our, we do have some investors that have come in now. The first show we're going to do is about is a Bill Maher, Charlie Kirk type show. Instead of just Bill Maher telling jokes, we'll have our friend Andrew Doyle tell jokes and then have a panel. Hopefully we're getting a lot of problems because liberals don't want to show up. I called my friend Sean Astin, who I've known for many years. He's not even returning my phone call, but I know where he lives. So I'm going to show up and I'm getting a lot of support. I got to go. You know, you talked about like the people in show business. I got a phone call from a young actor that I work with and his dad is a multi Academy Award winner winning actor. And he called me and he said, I agree with you. I can't believe. I just wish I could say what you say. And I said, don't, because they'll take it away from you. You won't work anymore in Hollywood. I said, don't put it on Twitter or Facebook how you feel. I said, it's just we're still dealing with the blacklist, just like the 1950s. I said, but here's what you can do. Talk to your makeup lady when no one else is around. Talk to the driver driving you to set. Whisper to the other actors, the one on one conversation so they can't destroy you because that's what they will do. They'll blacklist you. And I got to the point where like, hey, you can't take it away from you. Once you realize that you're under attack and they attacked you and you survive, you become emboldened. And I said, wait a minute, I'm still here. I can always do stand up. And it was the best thing that ever happened. Because now my standup routines, 33 million people saw something that I did last month about Charlie Kirk. 33 million people. That's a little bit more than Jimmy Kimmel's 180,000. So Jimmy Kimmel, I got more people that watch my stuff on Facebook and Instagram. And that's why those late night Shows whether he's a liberal lunatic or not, it doesn't matter. ABC will not pick up his contract in April. And I will bet you money on that. Anybody in this room, because they don't want to be in politics either, because they got their clock cleaned. They just had to cancel a show. This new Doctor who show, that was $11.8 million an episode. We could do episodes for a couple hundred thousand. And we're going to do it with our TV show. We're going to do six episodes with a half a million bucks. $11.8 million. And they, it got. And they canceled it and they're not even going to show it anymore because it was just like, you know, there's drag queens in it and there's like trans heroes in it. There' you know, gay kissing in it. It's like, is this a TV show? What is this? What is the purpose of this? What is it? What is it about? And it is an undermining of Western civilization. That's what it is. The Western civilization is being attacked from within. From. As I began this conversation, bad faith actors, people with grievances, with envy. And the way that we're going to be able to fight back is we're going to have to fight and we're going to have to do it through the culture. I'm going to have to go to Berkeley Monday and I hope you pray for me. But I want to go and I want to reason to them and what I want to say to them is I love you and I feel terrible that we are. Our government is allowing this overspending to prevent you from getting a part of the American dream. And I'm going to advocate for you and I want to be part of something. You know, unfortunately, we have people who are getting stuff who are not only getting stuff for free, but are angry that their free stuff is limited to what they can buy with it. And America isn't here to have continual handouts for everybody forever. It's supposed to be a hand up, not a hand forever. So I think it's a rich country and I think we need to, to make sure that we can help others. But the idea that we're gonna continue to take from the 41% of Americans that pay taxes forever, that system's unsustainable. The idea that Paul, what's his name, the conservative multi billionaire and Zuckerberg don't pay taxes. Jeff Bezos doesn't pay taxes. Like, what do you mean? How do they do it? Well, they just borrow money off the stock, and they live on that. And they never pay taxes. Really? Can I do that? No, you don't have enough money to do that. So who is the society for? How much? How long are we going to continue to let it go to the place where inflation is just another tax on everybody? We're going to have to deal with these issues. We're going to have to make some tougher choices. We're going to have to make some sacrifices. We're going to have to remind people that sacrifice is what is required. Suffering is required. Suffer for your country. What you can give up. You have to put yourself on the line. Charlie Kirk was courageous, and he commanded us as fellow surviving Americans to be courageous. Christ commands us to be a light. We must hate evil. What is happening in a lot of areas of this country, this attack is. There is evil. We must attack it. And we can do it through love. But we also must be strong and courageous. It is required more now than ever. Thank you.
So last thing I'll ask you is, because when life feels out of control, what does it really mean to hand it over to God? Not as a slogan, but for real meaning, Even if someone's an atheist here, the. Because there's so much stuff that you can't control, right?
Absolutely.
And there's no telling where this could. And it has been very bad for so many people. And, you know, from what I can tell, you have not at all lost your sense of humor. You definitely are fighting, though. And there's. There's things where you. In your. Your comment about suffering, how do you let it go? The things that you can't.
I mean, we have to suffer for the right reasons. Don't suffer for wrong things. Suffer for your family. Suffer for your children by working extra hard so you can afford that little trip or that big birthday cake. You suffer for that. Suffer by hiring another person in your company. Or when times get tough, figure out a way to keep these employees. Figure out a way to make them involved. Suffer for that, but don't suffer for the wrong reasons. Don't suffer by watching the news and get wrapped up in it to the point that it's distracting you from your life. Suffer for the right reasons. Suffer for love. We don't get to God, but through grace. Grace is that bridge that Christ provides for us. Like, I don't know how I'm going to get there, but I'm going to pray over it. I don't know how I'm going to take care of what I need to take care of. With our business. I honestly don't. But I'm going to pray over it. And that bridge is Christ. That bridge is the grace. And that's how we enter, not through ourselves. Our works are but dirty rags in the face of the Lord. All our best works are. So how much more is our ego, our vanity, our selfishness, our only worrying about ourself? In this age of emotion, when historians look back on this time, they will call it the age of emotion, because we gave into our irrational self and we were led astray. By this age where how do I feel is more important than what can I do? What has God given me? And so what we do is we can pray and ask for grace. God give us this grace so that we suffer for the right things, so that we can serve you and become a light. And then if you give it over, you know that you can't do it on your own. We need each other. God gave us each other. We're not in this room by ourselves. We have Joe Polish who connected all of us. This is a servant of the Lord, whether he knows it or not. You are. And you are a tremendous person. And, I mean, I'm always suspicious of everybody because my mother was like, you know, she made me suspicious of everybody. She was racist against fellow Filipinos. I don't trust him. He's Filipino. I said, aren't we Filipino? Yes. I don't trust us either. So whenever I meet somebody and I go like, wow, what this man has provided is a conduit. A conduit to bring people together. And then we could do. And if we pray over it and go, well, what can I serve? And I don't know. I don't know if this business is going to be successful, if we're going to be able to change the culture. But I'm going to suffer doing everything I can to make it happen for my kids, not for me anymore. I've been very lucky. I got to make enough movies that were crazy. Disney made a movie where I got to say, that's a huge bitch. That'll never happen again. I got to make a crazy movie where I played a man whore for money. Disney made that. That'll never happen again. I got to make really silly, fun movies that people got to laugh at. And one of the most beautiful blessings I've had in my life, Joe, is that people come up to me and say, you know what? My dad and used to watch that movie, your movies, and we used to laugh so hard. And he's gone now. But every Time I watch that movie, I think about the times I was laughing with him. It's like, wow, I just thought I was making something that I thought was funny, gonna make me laugh at my friends and that I was gonna make enough money so I didn't need a real job. That's all I wanted to do. But when Christ put something in front of you, you, here's a challenge. How are you going to meet it? Well, through your grace. And you turn it over to God and say, I don't know, God. Show me. So God has led me here to talk to all of you. Thank you for your time.
Thank you. Love you too. Thank you. So what. Thank you. One last thing. There's a lot of people here that I've some I've introduced you to Jeff Hayes, Tommy Mello, John Raymonds. What's your criteria for podcasts and different things? Because I would love to help, obviously amplify your message, do all that. And you're a busy guy, you got a lot of things calling out.
I'm gonna start, we're gonna start a podcast with you and I wanna bring it to people and I want it to be an open forum. What I'd like to do is celebrate the average American. Because what I'd like to do, whenever there's somebody, Whenever I was in Hollywood, I lived next to Harrison Ford and I always saw Harrison Ford talking to the gardener. He wasn't talking to other actors or producers. He would go out and talk to the gardener about like, how does this thing work? What's this plant need? And all those stuff, you know, he'd talk to the garbage guy who would come out and I went like, now that's an interesting guy right there. And this is a guy who's the opposite of politics with me. But like, my goodness, I'd like to talk to the average person. Like, how does some, how does a plumber get things done? I got tired of not being able to know how to fix my own tire. I said, what kind of person am I? What kind of man am I? I don't know how to fix a tire. I'm going to learn how to do that. I'm tired of calling somebody and being like an infant. Can you come and help me with my tire? I'm a 60 year old old man who doesn't know how to do shit. I want to talk to people who can help us do things and I want to do the average person. I want to talk to a teacher about her problems. I'm going to talk and it's one of the things we haven't talked about here. I want to figure out why, how we can increase teacher salaries even in Scottsdale Unified, which is not the greatest, for what they're indoctrinating with kids. Let's work on that. But let's go from the inside. I want to help them raise teacher salaries and I've talked to legislators about that. I would like to have a tax free status for a teacher so we can get the best teachers instead of just getting whatever, hell, whatever the heck we can get. I want the best teachers. How do we do that? By making them feel valued. Everybody always says, well, teachers are the most one. We need to have the best teachers. Those are the real. These are the people. Well, then show it. And so I'm not sure how we do it, whether it's an exemption or whether it's an actual card. You don't pay taxes. You buy a car, you don't pay taxes. You go groceries, you don't pay taxes. But then they say, what about the firemen? What about me, My hopes, my dreams, my taxes? Well, you make more money than these teachers. How can we encourage the best teachers? And that's one of the ways we're thinking of, because we have to get involved. And if you want to, if you want to get involved, work with them. I want to work with Scottsdale Unified. I want to be able to, you know, to work with the school board and do something that's 100% positive for them and then ask them, could you please not teach this stuff to third grader?
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