"The Elites Want To ROB Us of Our SOVEREIGNTY!" | Robert F Kennedy & Calley Means

This is a organized, systematic, devious, nefarious project by these elites. They want to rob us of our sovereignty. And they're creating a generation of Americans that, you know, that will do what they're told, that won't stand up to authority. This is all about, you know, unraveling the corruption and restoring the freedoms of our country and restoring self sovereignty and also political sovereignty in the American people.

So great to have you here. I haven't even got my maha hat.

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Looks good, huh?

Another $1 for the cause.

Yeah. So how are you? How are you doing? Good, good. How's. How do you keep up with all of this? I mean, you're now 70. How's your health?

My health is really good. But, you know, I was from the beginning on the campaign. We were. The campaign is now 19 months old, my campaign. And I've been on the road almost continuously. The last. I was in 48 states. The last five days, I was in nine states. And I was traveling during that time with President Trump, who's, I think, eight years older than me. I think he's 78.

78, yep.

And I watched the pace that he was. That he was moving at, and I was like, okay. If I was ever inclined to complain, it cured me. He was doing three or four rallies a day. He was doing the day that I. One day I was with him. He did 12 teleconferences for congressional races around the country, which are actually more exhausting than the rallies because you're talking into a piece of plastic and you have to yell, kind of exhaust your voice. And then he was doing interviews all day, and the stuff that he eats is really, like, bad. It's not. Campaign food is always bad, but the food that goes onto that airplane is like just poison. It's all. You have a choice between. You don't have the choice. You're either given KFC or a Big Macs. That's like when you're lucky. And the rest of the stuff is I consider kind of inedible. But I was eating it, and then he eats Diet Coke. I saw it. I was with Dana White the other day, who was really good, great for my campaign. He was a huge, huge supporter. He's very close to Trump. They've had a relationship for 20 years through UFC. But he said during that time, sometimes he'll sit through a fight with Trump, and he's five hours in the fight. He has never seen Trump drink a glass of water.

Yeah, exactly. Just like, sodas and Diet Coke or whatever.

On Diet Coke. But he has this extraordinary energy. The last day we were with him, he was up 48 hours. So when he gave his acceptance speech, he had been up 48 hours and literally 48 hours with no sleep. And I'm 70. I feel like I have a lot of endurance, but I, you know, overnight at this point, my wife killed me. I could do that a lot when I was a kid. But he does it all the time. And he has a bed on his plane. He has, you know, beautiful bedroom, but he didn't use it the whole time I was with him. He just sat up and he was working solid the entire time. And so. But I, you know, I treated it as a marathon from the beginning and not a race. Dennis Kucinich, who was with me and a couple of other people who I take advice from told me, you gotta, you know, don't kill yourself. And so I exercise every day and I have a security team that puts a gym that brings me to a gym. I go to an AA meeting every day. Wherever I am, I go to. And then I do meditations every day. So I was doing self care throughout and I never got tired.

First off, I want to just highlight what you just said there, not let that go by. You exercise every day, you meditate every day and you go to a 12 step meeting every day. Yeah, yeah, that is, I mean, that says, I don't know if there's any presidential candidate I'm aware of that's ever done. Maybe there is. Maybe you would know.

No, I do not think so. No. Yeah, I mean, yeah. And the campaigns I've been involved with which I've been in campaigns all my life. And there was, you know, when my dad and uncle ran, they were very young and you know, my dad died at 42. My uncle died, I think the same age. And so they were, you know, they had the vigor of youth. But you do get, you know, for those of you who are under 60, those, you know, 10 years between 60 and 70 are. Let me just tell you, it's going to be a nightmare for you. It's like the old, you know, when they used to have 50,000 mile warranties on your car and when you hit 50, 1000, everything would fall apart.

And that's what, you know, it's funny, I had lunch with John Mackey. Oh, God, when was this? 2013. The first time I met him. And he, we're at the Whole Foods headquarters in Austin and he said he goes, after you turn 50 years old, women just don't pay attention to you anymore. And I'm like, really? He goes, yeah, just watch.

I try to be invisible. So. But that was not my issue. My issue was that everything, you know, just stuff, all the stuff, doesn't work anymore.

Oh, yeah, no, yeah. I'll be, you know, I'm 56. I'll be 57 in a couple months. And I've totally noticed the strength thing, which means it's more important to take.

Care of yourself when you're 50. And when you're 60, like, like the day of your birthday, stuff starting, stops happening.

You know, this is inspiring the hell out of me right now. So I'm looking for that. So. So on the Joe Rogan interview with, with Trump, he said, so how do you stay in such good shape? He says that to Trump, and he's like, Trump says genetics. He's like a total freak when it comes to. I mean, you're right, he is.

My mom who died three weeks ago at age 96, and she had a. She lived on mayonnaise, and she probably ate a pound of bacon a day. And she went, you know, we were involved in her medical care, and her doctors said that she had the cholesterol level of a Kalahari Bushman. She could eat crap all the time, and she was very healthy, and she had tremendous mental acuity and humor and everything till her last day. And Trump's the same way. He just, you know, he's like a machine.

So how has your relationship with him evolved over time?

Well, I think I knew Trump for a long time. I sued him twice in the 1980s, and I won both lawsuits. His son actually don one of the laws. They were both over golf courses that were in the New York City watershed. New York City has the best drinking water supply of any municipality in the world. It's unfiltered. The water is so good coming from the Catskills, that there's no filtration. So it goes right from that reservoir into people's taps. And it's the best tasting water. And it accounts for the incomparable taste of New York City pizza and New York City bagels. And that's true. There are bagel makers in Miami that fly down cases of New York City water to make bagels. And some of the tea companies use New York City water to test their teas because it's so good and really, really high quality water. And President Trump was trying to put two golf courses, one on the east of Hudson, one on the west of Hudson, and I sued him on that. I become Friends with Donald Trump, with Don Jr. And he thanked me for it because he said that piece of land in Armont that I sued him over his now the place where he does a lot of his hunting. So, you know, because he kept it wilderness. And so I knew him from then something interesting. But I shared the same kind of contempt and disdain for President Trump that most liberal Democrats felt because we've been propagandized. And even though, you know, I went through for 20 years a propaganda campaign against me and saw the sort of the lies and the defamation, the systematic talking points, extraordinary conformance of these talking points that come from all the media outlets daily, almost like they're being sent talking points to talk about. So I was aware of the propaganda function of the mainstream media and how it had devolved from independent media to a vessel for government control. And. But I didn't make the connection that he was going through the same thing. I believed all the defamations about him. But in the early 1980s, one of the big cases I had was the Westway case. One of my first really big cases was Westway and Westway, they were going to build a four lane highway up the west side of Manhattan, then all the way up to the Hudson river and then it was going to come to shore in Austining New York and it was going to create hundreds of acres of new real estate that were portioned off to powerful developers and Congress. The entire New York City congressional delegation was, was bought in and enthusiastic. The New York Times, the New York Post, the Daily News, three major. And the Village Boys, all the major newspapers in New York, the editorial boards were strongly in favor of it. The labor unions were in favor of it. Both Senators Mona and d' Amato were huge supporters. The day that we filed our lawsuit, there was a picture on the front page of the New York Times of Ronald Reagan handing one of those huge checks, like $100 million check to Mayor Koch. And so literally every power center in the city wanted this happen. And Donald Trump was the only one to speak out against it. And he said the whole thing's a big boondoggle for developers. These were all his buddies. And so I had this idea of him in the beginning. He had this, this ability to sort of see through the baloney and challenge government orthodoxies, no matter who was for it, that he didn't fall in line. And then I saw that. I don't know if you saw that clip of Dave Chappelle talking to him and explaining why he was so popular with particularly black men because Chappelle does this great routine where he says he's a member of the club, but he's coming out on the back porch telling us the truth of what's going on inside. And I think that that characteristic that he had, those impulses that he has to challenge government orthodoxies has made him a critical and pivotal historical figure in this country right now. And if you see the tape that he made this morning about free speech, it was extraordinary.

I played it to everyone.

Oh, you did?

Yeah, just right before he came.

You know, that is so important now because we're in the middle of this globalist project that started 40 years ago to diminish the power of local governments, the sovereign power of local governments all over the Western democracies, to diminish individual power so that we don't have sovereignty over our own lives and to centralize control in these big international agencies like the World Economic Forum and United nations and UNICEF and all this. And Trump, when he came in, liberals like myself criticized him for leaving UNICEF or defunding the World Health Organization. And I kind of. I fell into that, that sort of dogma. And now I can see in retrospect that that actually he was right as he could be on those issues, because, you know, after we lived through Covid, millions, hundreds of millions of people around the world understand what's happening, that this is, you know, this is a organized, systematic, devious, nefarious project by these elites to turn the world into a technocracy and to put all of our faith in the technocrats. That's why this mantra of trust the experts, trusting the experts is not a feature of democracy. It is not a feature of science. It is. It's a feature of religion, it's a feature of totalitarianism. But it's absolutely anathema, the science and democracy. And that is the mantra we've now all been trained in. And Trump never saw that. And he doesn't articulate what's happening. He's not a guy who sits and explains it to the American people like I do. He has a different approach, which is he has a genius for touching these kind of reptilian core of the human brain by connecting to us on ways that are really visceral and atavistic and saying things that terribly upset huge amounts of the population. But. And so people then pigeonhole him as this strange, impulsive, out of control, narcissistic, bombastic character. But actually there's a method to his madness. And part of that method is he is a consummate entertainer so people, you know, he gets attention every time he says these things, and he stays on the front page of the paper. And he's worried about his crowd size, he's worried about his ratings in the press. And he's looking at that all the time. And those are the metrics by which he measures himself. And we look at that and we say, oh, that's very superficial. He's a superficial person. Those are the things he cares about. But his ability to tap into that part of us has given him the power that allows him to stand up to this globalist project. And, you know, that's what we saw this morning when you saw this. The stuff that he was saying was, you know, that should put him on Mount Rushmore alone. That speech as he came out and he told us what is happening. And let me just say one other thing and answer that question. I also, I've been incredibly. I believe now that he is really a great man, that he is. That he has this aura of greatness around him. And it's. And I saw him do something this week. I was on the airplane with him. We started talking about the Mid east, and he drew a map of the Mideast, which no American could do this. I mean, very few people could do it. And then he wrote down in each country, the troop strength. And he was talking about Syria and why do we have 500 troops in Northern Syria? Why is that? And he said, he asked his generals, he said, okay, here Turkey has 750,000 troops. He wrote that Syria has 250,000. The clash between those two, we have 500 troops sitting between them, and they're being bombarded and they're being killed. And he said, I asked the general, I said, what happens to those guys if Syria and Turkey actually clash? And he said, the general told me, they're cannon fodder. They all die. And Trump said, he said to them, get them out of there. And that's exactly what. When my uncle was president, he had 13 members during the Cuban missile crisis of his EXCOMM Committee, which was the committee. My father was on it. Bob McNamara was on it. And they say my father disappeared from our home and slept in a cot in the White House for 13 days. And it was the most perilous days in human history. You know, there were a couple of days where many people in the White House believed that we could wake up dead the next day, that 30 million Americans would die in the first half hour of a nuclear confrontation with the Russians. And we were this close to that. Happening. My uncle said to his intelligence apparatus and the military. His military advisors, Louis Lemonser, Lucius Clay and Curtis LeMay were saying to him, you got to go in and you got to knock out These missile emplacements. 64 missile emplacements in Cuba that they had put up secretly overnight. My uncle said to him, how many people man each one of those? And the general said, about 500 on each missile site. My uncle said to him, are they Russians or are they Cubans? And they said, they're probably Russians. My uncle said, if I kill all those Russians, isn't Khrushchev going to have to come into Berlin, which would be the beginning of a nuclear war? And they said, we don't believe he has the guts to do that. So that was their whole strategy. They didn't believe he had the guts, and they didn't know anything about Khrushchev. My uncle said, I don't want to take that risk. And the last day of the Cuban missile crisis, when he, you know, when they made the offer through Brennan to Khrushchev, he took a vote in the Excomm Committee. The first day he took a vote, and 11 people of the 13 said, we should bomb. My uncle and Bob McNamara are the only ones who held out. The last day he took a vote, and the vote was eight to six for going in. And my uncle said, the sixes have it. What he was saying is the only vote that counts in my vote, and I'm going to overrule all of you. And, you know, I saw Trump's story was almost identical to that. His generals all wanted to keep those troops there in Syria. And he was saying, you know, I'm not a military expert. I've never been in the military. But that doesn't make any sense to me, and I'm going to make them on mine. I've seen that now again and again with Trump during the transition, where we make all these suggestions about who should be in each post. He comes into the meeting and he. Very quickly, you know, we have. There's eight giant screens, and each person has a picture of themselves on the screen. They have a biography next to them. You can press a button and you can see three different clips from that person. So you can see how he talks and how he presents himself, he or she. And he goes through them very, very quickly. And then he says, I want that guy. And he's making decisions. He listens to what people say. He makes the decisions, and he has very, very firm ideas. And he decides very Quickly and the meetings are very quick when he comes in and it really, you know, Elon Musk is in the room, you know, Amarilla's my daughter in law is in the room and a few other people. And they all have very strong ideas. These are all alpha people and they're, you know, they have very strong ideas about what should happen. But he makes those decisions, he makes them very quickly. I've seen a level of decisiveness, a real vision. And the interesting thing about him is he doesn't care what that person believes. The person, you know, there's a very big sympathy among all of his advisors that we should stay away from the neocons. If he puts a neocon up there, you shouldn't worry about it because the decision ultimately is going to come from him. And he said to me at one point, he said, you know, he really hates John Bolton. John Bolton was his NSA advisor. And he said, but it was good that I had him there because it scared the shit out of everybody in the world. You know, if I had John Bolton there, John Bolton wants to bomb at every country in the world. And he said, they believe that I was going to do it too. So it was good for me to have them there. And so that's the way he thinks about things. He doesn't care what you believe, he doesn't care what your ideology is. He's going to make this decision himself. And I've been so impressed with that. It's completely changed my opinion of who he is and really convinced me that this guy that I had such contempt for, such disdain for is actually a really extraordinary leader. That he could be one of the great presidents in history.

Wow, okay, thank you for that. So how has this campaign impacted the relationship with your family, with your wife?

My wife is writing a book about the campaign right now and she's looking at a bunch of different titles. And one of them is I Didn't See this Coming. She said most days she wakes up and that's the first thing out of her mouth, you know, because there's a new thing that happens every day and she's like, I didn't see this coming. The other title that she's looking at is, you know, is Unflappable but with the uncrossed out. Because many years ago Larry David had described her as unflappable. And she said, well, God was sitting there saying, okay, well let me try this on you. You know, and it's been, you know, it's just been this wild ride. And with so many Pivots. First, I started out as a Democrat, and then I switched to independent, and we didn't see that coming. And then, you know, and then when I endorsed Trump, it was like for her, coming from the industry that she comes from, that is, you know, it's a career killer. So in Hollywood today, and she has given up a tremendous amount to support me on the campaign, but our relationship is closer than ever. And, you know, the love for each other, I absolutely depend on her or my own psychological strength. I'm really playing for an audience of one. I don't care what people say, other people say about me is not my business, but I need that kind of foundation. And she's been there for me, my kids, my larger family. There's a lot of people who have been very critical publicly of me, which is something that I don't like. But I continue to love my family, and I understand that they're all under this kind of hypnosis. There are people who believe in human rights. They believe in freedom of speech. They believe in, you know, they don't want us to become an imperial state of borrow censorship and surveillance state at home. And they've always shared my values. They're human rights, you know, advocates. And they've been persuaded by this kind of propaganda wall to turn on their own values. And in this way that is, I think, shocking. All of us have friends that have done that and where you can't talk to people anymore, where there's just this kind of wall of propaganda that has put a large part of our population under a massive gnosis. And to me, it's very orchestrated and it's very clear what's happening. And so my relationship with them has been difficult. I have seven kids, and my kids have been very supportive of me. They don't agree with everything I do. I have a son, an older son, who disagrees with me on Ukraine. He actually went over and fought in Ukraine. He joined the Foreign Legion, and he fought as a machine gunner in a special forces unit against the Russians. The people in his unit are all now dead. He's the only survivor. And so they don't agree with me on issues, but their relationship with me is closer than ever. And they say to me all the time that this has been a wonderful experience for them because it brought us so much closer together. I do have a lot of other members of my family and my larger family who have worked on my campaign, who have been invisible, you know, to the press, but who've been really close friends. And my closeness to them has increased dramatically. So it's like, you know, it's just, it's life that we all experience. We have these kind of ups and downs. And for me, you know, because I'm in 12 step program, I'm able. And because I'm diligent and disciplined about that, I'm able to not let those little things upset me and understand that there's a larger trajectory in life and that I need to focus on values and not carry resentments around, not carry anger. And those things are corrosive to me as an individual, and so I need to avoid them. You know, resentments are like swallowing poison and hoping someone else will die, and they actually end up, you know, poisoning you. And so. And I've been able to, you know, by keeping kind of on a spiritual plane, avoid any of those kind of feelings and, you know, and have a good relationship. My family, despite the political disagreements and with my closer family, my sort of nuclear family, my relationship has never been better.

Yeah, I mean, I'm constantly impressed how positive and encouraging and empowering you are with the way you talk with so much negative attacks that have been hurled at you. So much propaganda for, you know, a couple decades now, ever since you were outspoken about vaccines and everything. And do you believe your recovery work has been one of the strongest things for that?

Yeah. I mean, my addiction I consider a gift to me now because it gave me a sort of a blueprint and protocols for dealing with any problem that I have in my life and not getting. And not getting kind of emotionally tied into negative feelings.

Yeah. So give it up for Kali Meen.

Thank you, brother.

And yeah, I want to have. Let's first talk about what Maja is. And I'll just real quickly say I mentioned this yesterday. So Jeff Hayes sitting here right in front of us, he and Patrick Giantempo introduced me into your world. That's how I started really paying attention and then went to a couple of events. That's when I met you, then had you come here last year. Now I met Callie through Ann Atkinson, who is amazing and gave a talk yesterday. Where's Ann at? And I met Ann through Michael Bernoff. And so she introduced me to Callie. I totally hit it off of Callie. He's so articulate, understands so much what's going on with corruption and food. And then I introduce you and Callie to each other and you guys hit it off and then start going out and speaking together. And then I'm on a boat in July with Dr. Jeff Bland, who's the founder of functional medicine. Jeff is back here. He's created it all. It's where Mark Hyman came from and all that. Dr. Jeff Bland. And I'm on his boat the day that the assassination attempt on Trump. And a couple hours after that, I get a text from Cali, can you call me? And so I call Cali and Callie is saying, do you think there's, what are your thoughts on if Bobby would you first said, do you think he'd ever run for Trump's vp? And I'm like, I don't think so. But I, you know, I don't think so. He goes, I'm thinking about calling him. And, you know, I want to call him because I think there's an opportunity, opportunity here. And I said to Callie, I go, well, and I really wanted to put it on Callie because I wouldn't want to make that call to him. And so, Callie, I said, I think you'll forever regret it if you don't make that call. So he calls you and you got, you know, Callie calls me back a little while after that. And he said, I don't know if I pissed him off or what, because when I first said it to him, he paused. But then he thanked me and said he'd think about it. And then later that day, you called Callie back, and then Callie made the connection to Tucker Carlson. And then that's what started you guys talking to each other. And I do want to emphasize it's you and Trump putting together this collaboration in Maha. The point is, is that these little dominoes and these little conversations are really cool. And if there's any, I'm just so happy about how this is all coming together and how people focused on really important things can lead to other things. And so this movement, Maha, is massive. I think it's, I am so excited about it. I don't look at it just as food and pharmaceuticals and medicine in children and obesity. I also look at it from the lens of addiction recovery, because I don't know how you make America healthy again if you don't even look at addiction recovery. Because so much of addiction, there's so much addiction in the world. So that being said, Callie, real quickly, tell everyone who doesn't know who you are, who the heck are you?

Yeah, and I think this ties to why Maha has been such an important, I think, history defining movement, because I'm an activist that, you know, really decided to get into this fight after my sister saw the horrors of the medical system. I saw the horrors of the rig systems of the lobbyist early in my career, and like so many people in this room, my mom was struck down by a preventable metabolic condition. We started speaking out, we started writing a book, started companies, met Joe Polish, and then Joe before. Well, before that call connected me with Bobby. And, you know, being inside of the Maha movement, I could just say it was. Bobby used the word spiritual. There was something spiritual happening. I mean, this is moms who became activists after losing their kids. You know, this is professors from Stanford and Johns Hopkins and Harvard who had the gall to speak out and be shunned.

Right.

This is people that got into this movement for spiritual reasons. This loose coalition behind Bobby. And I really believe, and I think we all see this, that vibe of talking about childhood chronic disease, of Bobby bonding with President Trump on that, of just my small vantage point, you know, just on the outside see, you know, them talking for hours emotionally about this legacy item of childhood chronic disease. There was, you know, we're also cynical about politics behind closed doors, both during the campaign and in the transition. It's deep discussions about how do we make this a legacy issue. I mean, it's just as simple as that. It's about how do we reverse the childhood chronic disease crisis, as Bobby said, how do we clean up the corruption, how do we set gold standard for medical research? Like, that is truly what the conversation's about. And when you look what's happened, I mean, I think it's extraordinary. We cannot lose sight of this with what happened with the women, the gender gap, the independents, Latinos, black Americans, younger Americans, historic numbers for President Trump, I think, reflecting this new coalition in American politics, reflected by Bobby and President Trump coming together. So I think there really was Joe, and, you know, it comes from you. I mean, it's just. It's just. It's just good people that are making these connections in this loose coalition behind Bobby. We just need to maintain that really wholesome, genuine spiritual connection to this movement, which I think has come through to voters. And I think, you know, President Trump is coming out firing. I mean, it's just extraordinary. So we just need to maintain that momentum.

Yeah, so. So what? Great. Thank you. And what. So I want to ask you to kind of explain, what is the Maha movement in its current state? What do you want to have happen? And how can we help you with this? Because there's so many people in this audience that have come to me like, how can I get involved? How can we support. So there are people here that are willing to support in all levels, education list, money, you Name it. So how do we make this the most effective thing we can?

I think President Trump with his, you know, with, with his team of Bobby Kennedy, Tulsi Gabbard, Elon Musk, you know, on down the list, have a mandate from everyone here, a mandate from voters to kick the special interest in the deep state out of the office and really drive foundational change. So I think what we can all do is just maintain that and continue to just speak out, support President Trump and support him in what he wants to do and what he's promised to do, which is true transformational change, not partisan change, but true foundational change when it comes to Maha. And I'll just be real quick here. And Bobby, obviously we'll have much more to add, but we talked about three things. Cleaning up corruption. What can we do? The FDA, 75% funded by pharma. The USDA Nutrition Guidelines, which set guidelines for our children. 19 out of the 20 advisors are funded by food or pharma companies. The NIH is an orgy of corruption where 8,000 grants in recent years have gone to conflicted researchers. That ties to number two, the gold standard. This isn't about any agenda, it's just understanding what's happening. We have AI, we have so many smart people. We should be open, sourcing all the data. We should be fearlessly understanding why people are getting sick. We should let the data guide us to where it goes. We should not be covering up for any previous guidance. We basically need to say a lot of guidance on pharmaceutical products, on food, on what we've been giving our children might be wrong. We need to have fearless data. That's all we're asking for. And you can do that very quickly. And then just in the chronic disease epidemic and what Bobby's talked about and what President Trump has talked about in the Republican platform, it says we believe in chronic disease reversal and benefit flexibility. We are not telling anyone what drugs to take, what food to eat, what to do. But the $4.5 trillion or medical system right now is top down. It's mandates. When you are a child on Medicaid who's a little bit sad, you got a 15 minute appointment, you're getting a pill, SSRI if you have high cholesterol, 15 minute appointment, you're getting a pill statin on down the list. Now they're pushing Ozempic on 12 year olds. The mom, that mom on Medicaid should have flexibility to go to health coaching, to go to nutrition, to go to, you know, more functional methods. Just giving Patients the choice if we can get the science right and then let patients make their own decisions. Americans aren't trying to kill themselves. They want their kids to be healthy. That's the foundation of the policies we're putting together.

So, and you know, you talk about the link between addiction and food, and there's not good science on that, but there is a lot of science that suggests that mental health is deeply connected to food intake. There's a very, very good study that shows that children who are insulin resistant at age nine are five times more likely to have a psychotic episode before they're 24. There's another very, very strong study that shows that kids who become obese during puberty are four times more likely to suffer severe depression by the time that they're 22 years old. And you know, there's a dispute about whether the depression is coming from the social demotion that you get from being obese and, and fat shaming or whatever. But it's really an irrelevant dispute. If you're overweight, you're more likely to be depressed. There's a recent study of, epidemiological study of 300,000 people that shows a very, very strong link between depression and that people who eat processed food every day are three times more likely to experience clinical depression than people who don't eat it every day. In other words, not people who are eating organic food all the time, but just people who don't eat every day, less than every day. And then there's a series of pilot studies that normally I wouldn't quote because they're not strong science, but they're indicative and they should be mentioned, that diseases like anorexia actually disappear. You lose your diagnosis by treating them with diet, with keto diets and other kinds of diets. And those are the studies that NIH should be doing. NIH won't do those studies because they don't want to know the source or the cure or the treatment for chronic disease. Callie was mentioning the other day in a conversation that he and I had, and he discovered a recent NIH study that has been suppressed and buried by NIH that shows that 48% of American teens are now diabetic. That's half the teens in this country. When I was a kid, juvenile diabetes was functionally at zero. The average pediatrician would see a single case of juvenile diabetes in his lifetime over a 40 or 50 year career. Half the kids that walk through his office or are diabetic are pre diabetic. And you know, is this, I mean, can we think of a larger crisis to our country than that. These kids are now dependent on, you know, insulin and diabetes treatments, on chronic disease treatments for the rest of their lives. And that's bankrupting our healthcare system. 77% of American kids cannot qualify for military service. I mean, how can we have something that is worse for our country or more existential to our country than that?

70%, 77% according to the DoD, according.

To the Department of Defense. And you know, you can go on and on. Autism rates have increased from one, but depending on what study you look at, because there aren't that many studies, but in my generation, the autism rates were between 1 in 1500 and 1 in 10,000. Today in 70 year old men, the autism rate is 1 in 10,000. I've literally not ever met anybody with full blown autism. There's a lot of people with Asperger's on the spectrum or my age, but full blown autism, nonverbal, non toilet trained, head banging, stimming, toe walking. I've never seen a 70 year old man my age. And they're not, you know, they're not warehouse, there's no places for them. Why don't you see people like that at the mall? Men my age wearing helmets and diapers and not able to talk. I've never seen it in my whole life. And I've been around intellectual disabilities for my whole life because my aunt Una Shriver founded Special Olympics. My cousin Anthony Shriver founded Best Buddies, the two big organizations for taking care of people, Americans with intellectual disabilities. I spent 200 hours because it's part of my family DNA, that concern with people with intellectual disabilities. I spent 200 hours as a teenager working in Wasaic home for the retarded. I never saw anybody who was autistic, never when I was a kid. And we couldn't have handled them in Special Olympics we prided ourselves on being able to handle. I was working in Special Olympics as a coach and a hugger from when I was 8, when it was still called Camp Shriver. And we never saw anybody like that. And we prided ourselves on being able to take care of every child, no matter how disabled they were. Kids who were functionally vegetative, we devised games for them where they could push a beanbag off a table and everybody would cheer for them. We couldn't have handled somebody with autism because of their audio and tactile sensitivities and the violence, the biting, the anger, the hitting. They just didn't exist when I was a kid. And now it's one in every 34 kids in California. One in every 24, probably about one in every 17 boys. What are we doing to our children? These are kids who will never throw baseball. They'll never go out on a date, they'll never write a poem, they'll never pay taxes. And they're 1 in 34 kids look like that today. And so we're, you know, this is a crime against children. It's a war on children, and nobody's mentioning it. And as Callie said, it's because of corruption. That is really what's behind everything. It's the capture of the agencies by the industries they're supposed to regulate that are commoditizing us all, you know, and that's why they want to rob us of our sovereignty. And they're creating us a generation of Americans that will do what they're told, that won't stand up to authority. This is all about unraveling the corruption and restoring the freedoms of our country and restoring self sovereignty and also political sovereignty in the American people.

Joe, I think what Bobby and the Maha movement has tapped into and this very powerful room, I mean, what we can do there is an opportunity to change consciousness in the United States. I mean, it's on that level. It just doesn't make sense. Where it all boils down to what Bobby's saying is we are 4% of the world's population in the United states. We are 70% of worldwide pharmaceutical profits, and we are 60th in life expectancy. And now I can't look at my phone without 20 messages from reporters writing stories about how this man is going to be dangerous to public health. Public health. We are on the verge of collapse. We are destroying our children's future right now. And there are evil forces trying to protect that because it is the largest and most profitable industry and the fastest growing industry in the country is healthcare. And it profits from children being sick and success, one big level of success. And what we can all do in this room is we can stand up to these forces and change consciousness to where we all. A lot of people in this room see it. We can't go back. We must change the incentives. We must change it to where we stop just poisoning and then drugging kids at scale and start asking what they're eating, start asking what they're putting in their body, start asking about environmental factors and start. You know, people are saying this is going to be bad for farmers. We're holding. We want farmers to be at the center of healthcare in the United States, we spend two times less per capita. We spend half the amount per capita on food as they do in Europe, but they spend three to four times less per capita on healthcare in Europe. They live five, six years longer. Like they've got something going right there. They're not poisoning their population and cleaning up the mess. Like, that's the level we're on. This can happen quickly if we all stay on that consciousness level and really help Bobby and help President Trump stay high level and not get lost in the weeds. Like, we just need to change our paradigm of how we think about these things.

Yeah. I mean, you know this proverb which I say all the time. It's, you know, the exact way is he who has their health has a thousand dreams, he does not have their health, has only one. So I always say, you know, he or she who has their health has a thousand dreams. And if you don't, you have only one, which is to.

And we're doing it at scale. We're destroying dreams of children.

That's my, yeah, that's my point. It's like giving people their dreams back. Right. Because what you're saying, if a child. Yeah, you're destroying children. And so from that standpoint, this is critically important. Now, there's a lot. So I mentioned this yesterday when I was interviewing Dr. Jeffrey Bland, where in the 18% range of the GDP goes to healthcare, 5% approximately goes to food, 3% to military, 1% to technology. So there's so much money being spent and made in pharmaceuticals. So there are evil forces from that standpoint. So I had a question here. What can we do to address. Oh, I'm sorry, no, we'll do this one. Let me do this one instead. We give. How do we give doctors more freedom to prioritize patient health over profits? Because a lot of these doctors are in this system that is toxic. And a lot of them want to do well, but can they do that? So a big paradigm needs to, to shift here.

I'll just be real quick. It all goes to Bobby's three points. Cleanup, corruption, gold standard medical research, and the chronic disease epidemic. Right now, doctors aren't happy. Right. My sister at Stanford med school and then is in residency. Doctors have the highest suicide rate and the highest burnout rate of any profession in America. It's not because they're working hard. We all work hard. And we're, you know, we're, we know all. No missionaries who are working hard. It's, it's that they got trapped in the system with a lot of debt. They came in for the right reasons and they realized nobody's getting better. So doctors want to be unleashed. The problem is the standard of care. The problem with that corrupt medical research that says heart disease is a statin deficiency and obesity is ozipic deficiency that goes into the cms, the Medicare Medicaid guidance. Now we spend more on Medicare Medicaid than the defense budget and the intelligence budget by far. And it's much faster growing. And what we have in America is doctors are stuck in basically a top down mandate. They basically are. They're not able to talk to a pre diabetic child about food. There's no incentive for food. There's a bill right now saying that Medicare needs to cover Ozempic, $1,600 per person. Nothing in that bill for food. So doctors, what's that per month? Per month. Sixteen hundred dollars per month. Right. That's gonna be a trillion dollars. That's why Novo Nordics, this Denmark company is the ninth most valuable company in the world. 90% of their profits are expected in the United States. OIC costs $80 a month in Germany and Scandinavia. Okay, it's totally rigged. So, so when the key point in the first year of getting the research right is that research funds and informs the standard of care guidelines for Medicare Medicaid that then impact private insurance. It's so simple. It's so simple. But if we have an obesity and, and diabetes crisis among six year olds, maybe it's not working to drug them. Maybe doctors should be recommending dietary interventions. Maybe we should be incentivizing exercise. You can do that from the medical system if you get the standards of care right. And frankly a lot of this is bureaucratic. It's not even statutory. You don't even need Congress. We have outsourced billing codes in Medicare Medicaid to the ama, which is a lobbying group for pharma. And they outsource to medical groups like the American Diabetes Association, American Academy Pediatrics that are literally pharma front groups. And there's not a word in American Academy of Pediatrics guidance on childhood obesity about food. It actually says do not wait for dietary interventions. Drug your child right away. And they're going down to six. So the research which Bobby's talking about, if we can get control of the research, that's what the bad people have realized. There's nothing higher in society than a Harvard or NIH study. All culture, all, all policy flows from that gold star scientific research. And because the research has been co opted, that has trillions of dollars of ramifications. So if we in the next four years can get, not with any ideology, but just get the conflicts out of the research that then impacts what doctors can do. They're stuck in this system from the top. Gotcha.

So, all right, with that being said, if you could wave a magic wand, what would you need to do? This. You're doing this. So when you're like, you're saying before, no one's talking about it, you're talking about it. I mean, I think you are instrumental in being the catalyst for one of the most important things that could ever happen to this country for the children and frankly, the world, because I think it's so critically important. So my question is more about how do we, how do we support, how do we help?

I mean, if you said, you know, the original question is if I can wave a magic wand, I would put the same effort into this as we put into Covid to declare a national emergency and to do things that are going to be really dramatic and bold change very, very quickly. President Trump wants to see, has told me he wants to see concrete, measurable diminishment in chronic disease within two years. And in order to do that, we need to operate very, very quickly and, and we need to treat this with the same kind of urgency we did the COVID epidemic. This is 1000 times worse than Covid in terms of what it is, the cause that it's imposing on our society and on our lives. Covid was killing people mainly in the last year of their lives. 80, I think 81, 82 was the average death from COVID But this is hurting people from the day that they're born. And it's destroying lifespans of years. And the cost that it's imposing on us is existential. So we need to be able to respond very quickly and ignore that. We need to have really, really good crack staff right now. We have the people, we need to get them paid, we need to get them housing in Florida so they can be right there while we, you know, while we walk into these transition meetings day after day.

That's exactly right.

Yeah. And so what I would like to do, if you're not following Bobby on X following there, he posts like the video you just posted with all the cereals and the processed food and how you talk about 70% of the diet of Americans is processed food. You put out stuff daily that is incredibly educational, keeping people up to speed. Same on Instagram. Follow Bobby on social media. I repost the stuff. I mean, I'll I'll post what I think is important there on. You know, Joe Polish is important my on X. And I would like to just keep this, this whole thing. I want to try something here. I don't know how well this is going to work out, but I got this hat at the. I never pulled it out of the bag until this morning. So it's brand new. And it was at Charlie. The first MAHA event was here in Arizona with U2 and Charlie Kirk who's going to be with us tonight at the 100k Disney dinner. And so who would like to, starting at $10,000 going to the MAHA action. Who would like to with his hat signed by Bobby. I'll ask him to sign it. Got 10 grand here. Any more than 10? How much? How about you? 20? Anyone higher than 20? How much?

40.

40? Anyone higher than 40? 50. Anyone higher than 50,000? So far this is cool. This is a good demonstration. I mean people don't pay 50,000 for a hat. They're buying something else there. And this is a very powerful room. Anyone else. Would anyone match it if we got two maha hat? Two. Okay, we just raised 100 grand for you guys. There you go.

I just want to reiterate just how there are the most mission driven people moving just immediately to Florida. There's just such an opportunity in the next month. And what Bobby's saying, it's all about organization. President Trump got the mandate and thank you. I mean, Tim, we are pushing so hard. We've got the mandate. Now we just need to operationalize what Bobby's saying. So this is so helpful. But we're really trying to build out an incredible, incredible coalition to both identify names to staff these 600 key positions and really just build, continue this movement. I mean, on the all in podcast they said what Bobby and Trump, it's a realignment of American politics. So if we can build this coalition, get the right names, get the organization, we're going to get real change done and I think really, really revolutionize American politics with this new coalition.

Yeah, and we'll take this interview and we will put it online and please share it. I want as many people to hear about this as possible. What haven't I asked you that we should be talking about here? We'll just take a few more minutes. I mean I got so many, but I don't want to go.

Yeah.

So is there anything that's like most critical to you that you think is worth sharing? Because I really would like, I'd love to hear you talk about how to how to treat, you know, how should we treat each other now? There's a lot of tension after the election. There's a lot of people that have disagreements, agreements. You're masterful at, you know, how to talk to people without, you know, getting into arguments and things like that. So I'd love to get your advice on that.

Yeah, I mean, I, you know, I see what's happening now that, you know, we have to restore people's mental health, we have to restore their physical health and create, you know, right now, start growing a new generation of kids that is super healthy, the way that Americans were when I was a kid. But there's also spiritual health in this country. And that, I think, is at the core of everything. We're engaged now in spiritual warfare. And it's spiritual warfare against this kind of elite technocracy that's trying to take away our power and take away our rights and to commoditize our health, our children, our landscapes, everything that we value in this country. And, you know, there's no other country in the world that has what we have in this country. I'm always skeptical of people who talk about America as an exemplary nation because it's been used to justify warfare and military dominance of the globe. But the truth is, today we are the last readout for personal freedom in the world. There's no country in Europe that has a constitution like we do. We have. The Constitution of the United States is unique on Earth. And, you know, we had this. We were part of this project to take all those freedoms away from us. And, you know, thank God in some ways for Covid, because it was progressing without any kind of interference for many years, and people weren't noticing it. And I think so many people now have woken up and seen that this is the most existential threat to us, and it's a spiritual threat. But the United States now has an opportunity because of this election to reverse that trend here and then to rescue the rest of the world. So I'm very, very optimistic about the future under this president. I'm watching what's happening, and there is nothing that I'm seeing, you know, on Day to Day at Mar a Lago, that my level of hope and optimism increases every day. So, you know, I'm very happy, and I think, you know, let's go forward. Let's be kind to the people. We need to fight for them. All those people, your relatives who hate you and won't talk to you anymore. We need to be fighting for them until they can wake up. And fight for themselves.

Well, I hope you're happy that I brought one. I mean, I can't even comprehend you being a lifelong Democrat, doing everything you could to try to collaborate. You famously said, I didn't leave the Democratic Party. They left me. And all of the relationships, all the friends, all the men. I can't imagine how many lifetimes it would take me to actually even deal with that psychologically. And you have just stayed on this path and you forged through it, and you are just getting started. So I think the best two words to describe you is you are a spiritual warrior. And so it is so happy to have you here.

Thank you.

Thank you, Bobby Kennedy.