Speaker B wrestles with Jesus' teaching on forgiveness without limit, using the example of forgiving 490 times. He acknowledges the real pain of repeated betrayal and trauma, arguing that God doesn't expect you to keep count of how many times you forgive someone.
This is what Jesus says about forgiveness. Watch this.
Do you expect me to keep forgiving somebody that keeps wounding me in the same area 490 times? You don't know what I've suffered with that person. You don't know what they put me through. You don't know the scars they left in my life. And Lord, you actually expect me to forgive them 490 times? We can bring it down. You expect me to give them 77 times, forgive them? No, the Lord don't expect you to forgive them 490 times because he don't expect you to— watch this— to keep count. See, now even as I say that to you, some of you squirm in your chair. You squirm in the overflow because you're thinking about yourself, a season of trauma, a moment of betrayal, a person who failed you, a divorce that scarred you. You're thinking about people right now you're still holding. They're in your heart like an apartment. And you're hearing Jesus says, I want you to forgive every person that hurts you to the point that you even stop counting how often you forgive.
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