Everyone Says “Just Start”… But Almost Nobody Does | Page #1

Just start is the one thing.

You should always be doing something that's a little scary.

Where did you come from? Who are you? What's the goal? Why are people watching us right now?

Like, quite clearly I was miserable.

Yeah.

I got really uncomfortable. A few months into us getting married, I was like, okay, something's gotta give. I quit my job.

It's up to us to make a decision on what we wanna do. And I think the hardest part for me was to realize—

Her.

You good?

Yeah.

All right, guys. What's up, guys? Justin Page here. I'm with my wife, Cassandra Page, and we are doing our very first podcast here, ladies and gentlemen, in our lovely loft.

Yep.

So this is going to be a little work in progress here. Cassandra's not used to the camera gig, and I mean, this is our first thing, first time ever doing something like this together. So this is going to be very raw. Uncut, unfiltered. She's probably going to say yep, probably 90% of the time here, but this is a very inviting and warming thing for us to do, which I'm extremely excited.

I need to settle into this.

Yes. So she actually had a little glass of wine, but I'll just start off and say this. Listen, it is now 2026, ladies and gentlemen. If you're watching this, we have just now hopped into the new year. We're recording this right after the ball dropped. Our biggest goal was to actually start something together in this podcast. Yep. And this podcast was actually something that's been on the back of my mind, not hers. I'm trying to get her there. For years, I've been wanting to do something. I felt like growing something together is a huge thing. So why not do something like this together?

Just start now. Okay.

Just starting now. All right. So the reason why we wanted to do this podcast here, and let's just cut to the chase, is because, you know, I feel like all we do is watch other people's content and we are in such a consuming base that we forget and we lose our own identity on what it is our life is to be like. We get so lost in everyone else's voice, their thoughts, their habits, their routines. We see them, we wake up to them, we watch them all day. We drive in our cars, watching everybody else, but what about our own story? And I feel like we have something that's very unique, something that's different and very genuine that's lost. It's a lost art of actually having a married couple do something like this together, who get along, who are best friends. And it's, I think it's powerful. There's a lot of people out there who feel lost. Divorce is, it's, it's popular. Everybody just. Posts about, you know, oh, I'm in my soft girl era, and, you know, the boys are the, the f-boy era, you know, the City Boys, you know. It's— there's no growing together, and I feel like we need to bring something like this back.

So let's get right into it.

Okay, so basically our job with this podcast is actually to have a conversation with each other. That's what podcasts are for, not so much of an educational, but to bring the viewer into our world where you feel like you're a part of something. You're almost like a part of that inner circle, which is huge. So Cassandra.

Yes, Justin Page.

I'm gonna need some very good input, some conversations, meaningful.

Yes.

We're recording this at 1:00 AM, so our brains are pretty shot, worked all day, but that's not gonna stop because we really wanna put actions into reality. So Cassandra.

That sounds like how you sounded when you proposed to me.

Literally, that's what I sounded like when I got on my knee here. But like, in reality, like, like real stuff here. When we first met, and I'm just going to go off this, we had an issue where she could not look me in the eye. Every time I would look at her in the eye, she would be like, I can't do this. And this went on for months. The fact that we're actually gazing at each other right now, this is some progress. And we've been married for a little over a year, dating for 7 years. You probably don't remember that, but yeah.

The looking into the eye.

Looking into the eye.

I remember that because he said, I won't make you my girlfriend until you look me into the eye, which is fair, but you made me so nervous.

And all I did was just look at her, just a genuine gaze. Like, I like you a lot.

I was shy.

And she still is.

I was very shy.

This is gonna be a very long work in progress. It's gonna be fun to look back at these days and look at our very first podcast because we were so hesitant to even start something like this. And you know, the first thing that you do is cringe. Like you're gonna look back and say, oh my God, I can't believe We were in our living room or our loft on a couch, couch casting over here. Like, this is like some Pornhub type stuff. And that was our first podcast. Like, how far we've come from then. Hopefully we'll be a lot further, you know, ahead on maybe episode 100. That'd be amazing to get there. But I really wanted it to be an intro and to really break the shell between us where we have conversations throughout the day, which are very impactful and I feel like it'll be inspiring for other people to kind of hear these kind of conversations. In addition to, well, every time that we have a good talk, I say, hey, save it for the podcast because I feel like, you know, it's, it'll be natural, not regurgitating stuff that we already heard, but more of a genuine conversation where we're really digging in.

Yep.

Oh man. Are you gonna?

It's hard because you, like a lot of podcasts don't go like this, talk to the camera, then talk here. Talk to the camera and talk here. It's just a conversation.

And that's what I'm trying to do.

Okay.

The intro was to pretty much talk about the very first fact that this is our first podcast. I mean, my channel is going from a whole completely different flip of opening up PlayStations, getting 250,000 views, which is great, by the way, and opening up AirPods and iPhones every time and car content, you know, doing car vlogs. I think that this is going to be It's a huge shift, which my following is going to be, probably fall off, but then I'm going to gain a different type of followers. So I feel like I had to make that little intro into like, you know, what it is that the goal is with this podcast. And the podcast, in my mind, and I don't know about yours, maybe you have your opinion, which I hope you do, other than yep, is I really want to create an area or a circle of like-minded individuals who can kind of just feed off that energy. Where you start seeing people in the comments like, bro, that clip at 7 minutes in, I felt that, like, that was me back then. You know, I, I, I love that you say that.

Can you scoot up a little and like lean on the actual cushion? Because I'm so far forward, I'm like hurting myself.

Won't you lean back and get relaxed? You're so like a tension, like, this ain't Guam base, honey. We're chilling, bro. It's just 2026. We vibing right now. Turn towards me. You look like you're the one trying to be a newscaster over here facing the front here. Like, engage with your boy. Hey, what's up, girl? You look kind of cute there, over there with your little thingy thing.

Okay, okay, help.

Oh man. Okay, I just wanted to see if you'd be able to say something here.

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So, Han, let's, let's give a little bit backstory about us. You know, where, what, what made us transition to want to do something like this? In your opinion, why are you sitting on this couch right now at 2 o'clock in the morning with a wireless microphone in your hand? In your living room loft, having a conversation with your husband. Same word. Yep.

I love my husband a lot. I support him in everything, but this is more of supporting us in everything. This is something we're building together and in our business, it's, we want it to be more than transactional. We want our community, our clients to know more about us, to feel like they're more than just a transaction. They're actually Building, how would I say it?

Trust?

Building connections?

Yes.

Building connection, building trust, knowing that we're more than just an agent to them, that we are someone that they can go to for anything they need, not only insurance, but I don't know, building, huh? I'm tired.

I just wanna see you do it. I don't wanna keep spoonfeeding you here. Before we even get into the whole business aspect, you know, let's like background-wise. You know, like, how did this become, how did we become, how, where did you come from? Who are you? You know, what the people are watching, they were like, it's a loaded question. The people want a connection with you. This is episode 1. This is who are we? Why do we exist? What's the goal? Why are people watching us right now? Cassandra, where do you come from?

Hun, that was like everything. That's like my life story. This will be a whole segment on my life story.

Well, that's what podcasts exist for, segments.

You need to lead better. You need to say a direct question.

That was a direct question.

Why are we here? Why are you in front of us?

I was giving an idea. You could have been like, hey, okay, let's take it one step at a time. So about myself. I'm from Guam.

Okay.

If you guys aren't familiar where Guam is, it's a U.S. territory over by the Philippines. South of Japan, like that kind of stuff.

Okay.

We're gonna break your shell and this is how we do it. If you guys have never started a podcast or started anything because you were shy in front of the camera, you don't know what to do and you freeze. This is what it takes. These slow repetitions that get yourself uncomfortable to be able to have these conversations where you stop thinking that other people are watching and you're looking at a camera with no audience. And you're just doing it because it's just so natural. Just like you speak, just like you know your name, just like when you do whatever you do at work, you're confident. That's how you get to where you want to be. You start. That's why we're here today on January 1st, 2026. So Cassandra, you're going to be my co-host. We got to do this right, honey.

You go off on a tangent towards the camera.

Well, yeah, because it's like you got to fill it in.

Yeah, but we're gonna, we're gonna chop things.

We're not chopping. This is straight through.

No, it's not.

This is straight through.

No, it's not.

So, a little bit about me, right? She's talking about us being in insurance and being in our business. And before that was even a thing, our cat's about to jump up here. Okay, and she's gone the other way. I'm from East Chicago, Indiana. And, um, growing up there, there wasn't much of a life. This is my cat Cleo, by the way. Growing up there, there wasn't much of a life. My parents saw who I hung around with, which were a bunch of gang members, um, a lot of people who were dropping out of school, a lot of fights, pulling out knives to fight over quarters, the paleta man, if you guys are familiar with the paleta man, he comes around in his little cart, He has a little ice cream around. You know, there was nothing there for us. So we moved down to Florida, closer to my mom's side of the family. Long story short, just to be able to create a better life for me. I'm an only child, two parents. That's all I got. So in my eyes, I felt like I had to do something right because they sacrificed quite a bit for me to be where I am. Went to college, St. Leo University, got my bachelor's degree. And I became a nurse. I didn't know what I wanted to do when I grew up. I just knew in the back of my mind that I wanted to do something special that was impactful, where I would inspire people to do things that they would want to do. Just be that beacon, right? And became a nurse. Well, first became a paramedic, started working in an ambulance, working on the streets, committing, doing that community service, which I'm all about. I'm all about service. That led to me becoming a nurse, which I work in the ER, which I currently do now. And, you know, working for corporate America and working your 12 to 12 in my case, or my 12-hour shifts, 9 to 5, it creates, it creates this, this missing piece because I hate the fact that I clock in and I see my coworkers and it's this very shallow conversation of, hi and bye and, you know, oh, how's your shift going? Ah, just making it through. I'm just here to take their money. And you hear that every single day, day in and day out. And it's just, it becomes you and you don't realize there's so much more to life. And it's, I feel like it just sucks and you don't know what else is out there. You see people who are so successful in businesses and all these other entrepreneurships and everything else. And, you know, you feel stuck. And I felt lost and I started hating myself. I'm damn good at my job. I'm a great nurse.

Okay, wait, pause. I think you're going off on like a 5-minute tangent towards the camera to the audience. We're talking to each other. I think it needs to be more like, okay, Justin, why, why do you think you took that shift from nursing to insurance? Like, I need to ask you that and you need to go and touch base on that. It needs to be more conversation. You're just keep talking to the audience, but it's a pod. We're not pod— we're not broadcasting to the audience.

I like that. I'm glad she said that because that's what I want.

Yeah, and you're just one straight 5-minute segment of you talking straight to the audience, and that's okay because I'm glad that you're able to say that.

So I'm glad this is real-time critiquing. If feedback. So yes, this is what I want us to do is have a conversation.

You need to like, you need to say something along the lines of, so just recapping on what led us here, why I pivoted from my last job, why I wanted to make that shift for us, not just me.

Yeah.

Quite, quite clearly I was miserable. Yeah. I got really uncomfortable and there you go.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's why I need you to ask those kind of questions.

Okay.

That's what interviewers do.

I'm not gonna ask questions. You were just on pshh, pshh, pshh.

You could have just said, hey honey.

I did. Real quick. I did.

I was like, yeah, cut me off. And I love that.

Okay. Why are we here? Why do you think that you wanna make that change from nursing and make that shift? Why do you want more than that for yourself and for us?

Well, one, because I feel like I've already tapped into the highest I can be personally for me, bar, in the ER as an ER nurse without getting into higher leadership that paints a target on your back. So I feel like since I'm at the pinnacle as a critical care nurse, there's not much more there for me. Yeah. When you become the smartest person in the room that everyone comes to you, for, hey, can you do this because I know you're good at this? Hey, what's this? Because I know you know this. I'm not growing. So in order for me to grow, especially in something that I don't necessarily have a passion for, I just gotta change my environment.

Yep. I know you've called me many times while you're at work saying, I'm secluding myself in the corner. I don't wanna be around these miserable people. Maybe we shouldn't say that because he will watch this.

I mean, it's true though. If you work in the ER, I mean, everyone, no matter where you work at, the grass is not greener. Everybody, there's the same cast of people in every department.

Yeah.

You have the same person who's super lazy. You got the gung-ho people. You got the know-it-all people. You got the people who just skate by, maybe sleep their way to the top. There are so many of the same people in every department that there's no escaping it. The grass is not greener.

And there are, I mean, some of our best friends work in the ER, Justin. There's great people in the ER, but it takes a toll on you. And I know it, it took a toll on you.

Yeah.

I mean, that's why you want something more for yourself because these nurses, they just give and give and give until you either are just so burnt out that you leave like you are.

Mm-hmm.

Or you just accept your fate.

Yeah.

And those are the two classes. So you're making the pivot and now we're here.

Mm-hmm.

And all right, cut to the next scene.

Not everything is gonna be about edits and cuts. You're gonna have to just, we're gonna have to raw dog life sometimes, hun. But you're right. And I, the biggest eye-opening, at least this year, Since we started getting into our business and our business being life and health insurance.

Yep.

You primarily doing the health insurance portion. I'm focusing more on the entrepreneurship of being your own bank and taking back the banking function of your life, utilizing life insurance. You know, that has taught, at least being a quote unquote business owner, has taught me quite a bit because The mindset that you have to have is so different than someone telling you what you need to do. There's not just a task of here's your task. It's like you wake up, you make the thoughts, the rules, the things you have to get done. It's all on you. There's no like clocking in. I'm just getting paid for it. Like, no, if I'm not putting in actionable work, I'm not getting paid. And that's just a huge, it's a huge mind shift. And You know, working in the ER and not to keep bashing on my people there, but there is nothing other than a superficial, what's up, how's the weather kind of conversation. There's no deep meaning conversation. And I realized that when I did my men's group this year. And if you guys didn't know, we're both, are you Christian?

Catholics are Christian.

Okay.

We believe in the Christian faith. Yes, I was raised Catholic, but now I go to a non-denominational Christian church with my husband Justin Page.

All right, so it was a great area. Only reason why I asked, because our, our promise of 2025 was to start going to church every Sunday since we got married in 2024 in July. I said I want to go to church every single Sunday, or as many Sundays as we can, just to bring God into our life. But with that said, when I got into my men's group, it was a 12-week men's group that we did, and I had— I got more personal with them than I have with my co-workers that I've worked with over 10 years. And that's crazy to think of that, like complete strangers, but because we all had the same foundation within Christ, we understood each other. We knew each other without knowing each other. But then at work, you got all types of walks of life there, but Those walks of life are extremely shallow because they don't have anything, in my opinion, anchoring them down to something. Hi Cleo. Our cat's got a missing tail. Whole story on that, but she had an accident. Almost had to put her down, but she's here with us still today. Walking. Crushed pelvis, no tail, but God's good. 14-year-old cat. But yeah. Cassandra, why are we here today?

Yeah. And more on that, a little background on me. I'm from Guam, so I came out here to further my career. It's a 30-some mile island, so there's not much there to do. There's not many opportunities for career-wise. My whole life I was told, be a doctor, be a doctor. It's kind of a legacy in my family. My aunt was the first female doctor on Guam in our nationality. So that was always pushed on me. And I think a lot of people out there can relate to this, that your parents' dreams become your dreams, even if, you know, you don't know it, that might not actually be your dream, but you grew up thinking that. So I moved out here thinking that was my dream and being exposed to so many other careers, I was a little confused. I still went with it. I even got my master's, um, was about to apply for medical school. My best friend still went on to medical school and now she's a full-fledged doctor. But being out here, I shadowed a lot of doctors and all the female doctors told me, don't be a doctor, don't do it. There's no balance in life. You'll have to sacrifice a lot of your years. And as a man, it might be a little easier, not a whole lot easier, but as a female, there's a lot of sacrifice. Your childbearing years, um, all the nights that you wanna go out, hang out with your girlfriends. There's no doing that. Um, some people do it, but it's really hard and a lot of people fell out and I just didn't wanna give up those years, especially already have found my person. I didn't wanna postpone our life for another decade because it would be a decade before I got out and didn't have you know, school or residency dictate where I could be, where my hours are allocated to. So basically I was exposed to careers out here, was exposed to medical sales and thought, hey, that's, that's amazing. Like marketing, talking to people. I'm not good here, but I'm good in the real world. So I did that. I tried it. It was great, but. It was really difficult in a sense that I was always away from home on the road every day, socializing with a lot of great people, but not home a lot. Not here with my husband. Our schedules weren't in sync, and if we wanted to have a family one day, having kids, that would be impossible. My family isn't here. Justin has his parents, but they were still far away at the time. And we would have to get daycare, someone to watch the kids. We'd be working just to have people watch our kids. And that was not the life I wanted for myself. I don't think that's the life you wanted for us either.

No.

We want to be present together, present with our children, and not have someone else raise our children. So we wanted to make a change and we knew about insurance for a long time. Justin's best friend, doing phenomenal. We were always told, you should do it, you're gonna do great, Justin would thrive in it. Um, and I never thought I would make the change. I was always somewhat in the medical field as well, but as we got married and as childbearing years became a real thing, at the time we thought, well, we have so many years, but once you get married, everything comes a lot more real. So that's when it really sank in. And a few months into us getting married, I was like, okay, something's gotta give. I quit my job. I got into insurance, and now we're here. Actually, I'm loving it. We're thriving. Being your own business is not easy, and it's a big change from a W-2 field. I mean, we both experienced it when we took the switch. What do you think was like the hardest learning aspect of this whole career?

I can say, and first thing that comes to my mind when you ask that is that when you're a senior or if it's your last day of school and you're about to go on summer vacation, and then when you finish that last day of school and it is now day one of summer vacation, or I should take it a step further. When you graduate and you don't have class, you don't have teachers telling you homework's due. I mean, you don't know what to do. That's what this feels like. I wake up in the morning, you wake up in the morning. We don't have to clock in somewhere. No one's telling us we need to be there. It's up to us to make a decision on what we want to do. And I think the hardest part for me was to realize, well, What's my schedule? I don't know. I know what I need to do. I don't—

Talk to clients?

I don't know. Well, yeah, I don't know when I should do it. I don't know how long I should do it.

How you should get to those clients.

Yeah. Like there's just so many unknowns and it was like, I'm in control of that. So it was scary that it's like I'm making all these decisions without being told what to do. So I think that was the biggest. Hurdle for me, and I'm disciplined in certain ways, but disciplined with my schedule in that regard was completely different.

Yeah, and it's hard too because when you're in your, when you are your own business, there are so many ways to get to the money. There are so many ways to market, to talk to clients, and it's very abstract. You don't know how to get from point A to point B and what would be the most optimal. So for the entire year, you're kind of learning and changing things. Until you're like, okay, this is it. This is how it's going to be optimized and what really resonates with you and how you want that business to operate. And I think we're still in that stage.

Oh, for sure.

I mean, this is something new on top of it for our business.

I mean, yeah, we're still within our first year of a business together. I mean, LLC'd ourselves, what, in June? I can't remember. But yeah, we're still in our growing phase. We still are not crushing it and the fact that we were so self-sufficient, like we thought, you know, a lot of these businesses, they failed in the first years, especially in insurance. So the fact that we're doing something together, which is what I felt was huge for us, because when we'd come home and you'd complain about work, I didn't get my bonus. I come home and I complain about work. No surprise there. It's like, well, why are we complaining about stuff that's separate?

Yeah.

We should build something together because if you look at I mean, for the nurse statistics, I mean, everyone's divorced.

Yeah.

Everybody living, working opposite shifts, the childcare, not seeing each other, affairs that happen at work 'cause they spend more time at work than they do in the actual home that they built together. It's ridiculous. And, you know, life is short. So it's like, if you already experienced the pain that's around you, put yourself in the pain that other people are experiencing and realize you don't want that. You want so much more. And I think that's what hits me and that's what makes me move with intentions because if I know I don't want something, I force myself to suffer in the fact of putting my mind in that pain and I realize what it is and just re— re-engineer, reverse engineer what that pain is like. So I cannot do that by making myself start today. Hence the podcast today.

Yeah. And if anyone watching this has switched from a W2 job, a corporate job, salary job, hourly, that you get paid regardless as long as you show up. I mean, unless you get fired, you're making that money. When you switch to something that you're growing for yourself, it's, it's a big shift. And I would say on days when you're just getting paid to be there, yes, you are hired for your skills, but you're working for someone else for their goal. They make the goal, they make your KPIs. And you have to hit them. So it can feel really, you can feel really empty, burnt out trying to reach someone else's goals. But when you're your own business, you can work 24 hours a day and it's a different kind of burnout. It's a better burnout. I wouldn't even say it's burnout as long as you're, well, as long as you're passionate about it.

Yeah.

You don't truly get burnt out. You almost have more desire to keep doing it. You have a lot more fuel in your engine. Yeah, to keep going. And I would say I'm probably working a hell of a lot more than I was in my corporate job, but I'm doing it my way. I'm building a legacy. We're building a legacy for ourselves. And it— if you ever, ever have the opportunity or you know what you want to go after and leave that corporate job, I would highly recommend doing it because You find a lot more purpose in your life. Even if you're not married, you're, you're an individual, you're single, you find a lot more fulfillment in what you're doing day in, day out. I mean, majority of your time is your job. It's not with your family, not with your kids, unless you're a stay-at-home mom, and that's also a job. But you spend majority of your time at your job, so you better be damn sure that you're spending majority of your life in something that you wanna do.

That's true. And because, and I like you say that too, and I was listening to something from Alex Hormozi and he was talking about for those who don't have enough to be able to start that career job and you're stuck in your 9 to 5 or whatever you're working, realize that you are just doing that 9 to 5 to be able to fund what it is you really want to do. That, that 9 to 5 is not really your work. You're just doing it because you need to get paid and maybe you're good at your job, maybe you're not, but the intent is that after that 9 to 5 is done, when you clock out that At 5, the real work begins and that's building your business. That's calling your leads. That's doing your advertisements, doing your Facebook leads if you need to do that for your Meta ads or making your posts or shaking hands with people or going to networking events. Like that's where the real work is. And that's the step. That's where we're at. I still work in the ER. I work my 12 to 12s. You know, I make sure that our bills are just paid. And then everything else that we're doing is just going into the business and making the business to be self-sufficient enough to be able to get out of the ER and get out of the W-2 completely.

Your first couple of years of a business, you're investing a lot. You're pouring in more than you're getting out. And we're trying to pour in as much as we can to make sure that's optimized, to make sure that it is very fruitful in the future for us. and not just doing the bare minimum just to get by. And then when you do eventually quit everything, we're like, this is not even going to keep up our bills.

Yeah, 100%. And, ah, I, I could just, just think back into like every time that you want to do something and we keep putting it off for the next day. And I feel like when you're in business, you wear a lot of hats where you're, You know, you're your own marketer, you're your own salesperson, you're your own closer, you're your own appointment setter, you're your own liaison for going out to talk to people. Like, you're wearing so many hats that something has to get put on the back burner until you scale yourself to be able to be enough where you can offload something like digital, like the media, like editing this podcast to get up there. I'm going to be the one doing this, you know, and that's taking time away from something else. When I have enough money to be able to scale this, give this off to somebody, that's a different story. But I feel like we always putting something last or tomorrow, I'm gonna start tomorrow, and that we never started. And then it's been a year later, then we never, when we finally started, if we do decide to do it, had we started back then, it would've, we would've had so much more fruit to be able to bear had we planted the tree to begin with. And I think that this podcast, at least just the ideal in my mind, is to create this community and this circle of people. And I don't know, it may be two people. I don't know, but it's be some good intention. We'll be a strong ass two people, you know, but I feel like there's so many people out there that want to do something, but they're so afraid to do it. And I felt like I was one of them because I'm such a perfectionist that I want things to be done the right way, that if it's not going to be done the right way, then it's not going to be done at all. And I need to stop being in front of myself. I don't know how I got on this little tangent here, but it just came to my mind and I, I was just talking about growth and just development. I guess we'll go into that kind of segment. Um, but to not be in your own way because you're a perfectionist. I don't know what are your thoughts on that?

Yeah, I'm a perfectionist. I feel like I always have to be presentable and know my stuff before I actually do it. But I've learned a lot this year with being our own business that you have to run before you can even walk. You kind of have to put in those actions and be what you wanna be. So that you can be there, if that makes sense. And I've learned to lean on a lot of people. Get your mentors, get people that actually are running and know what they're doing while they're running so that you can have them hold your hand and, you know, run that marathon right beside you so that when you're, you feel like giving up, you need, you have questions, you have them right beside you when you, to know what to do.

Yeah.

And yeah, how did we get on this topic?

I don't know. I just started thinking about the ballerina. I'm just in my mind right now. I was just thinking and processing and taking in this moment that we're doing this and I, I feel good. I got, what time is it right now? It is, I thought it was, oh, okay. It's 1:52. I thought it was 2 earlier. 1:52 in the morning right now. And I don't know, tired. Gotta be in the ER tomorrow morning, but I'm so happy that we started doing this because Just start is the one thing. It's like you get your first sale and then the second sale becomes easier because you already did it. You're so hesitant about doing a first sale and that first close that once you get it done, it's like, oh, that was it. I'll bet. Let's keep running it.

Yeah.

So now it's like we did our first podcast. Oh, bet. Well, we did it before. We can keep doing it.

Yep.

We learned from it.

You should always be doing something that's a little scary. If you're not doing anything in your life that's a little scary and eventually it doesn't become scary, like you know what you're saying.

Yeah.

Then you're actually not really living life to the fullest. You should always be making those baby steps because you're going to have a lot of self-growth that you never thought you would have.

It's true. And when you really want to chase something and you're afraid to do it, that's when you should do it. Just get over that fear. Anywhere that you're at in life right now, you were afraid to get to where you're at right now. But think about that time when you made that decision to put that application in for that school or apply for that job or ask that girl or guy out, you know.

Or quit that job.

Or quit that job. Think about how—

Or leave that relationship. Yeah.

Yeah.

Not here.

Yeah. Not here. Just think about that time that you felt that moment, you felt hesitant, you were afraid, like you were, you just felt butterflies in your stomach, but you decided to do it. And then fast forward to where you're at today. Had you not made that decision, you would've never known what it felt like to either succeed or fail to then move on for another opportunity that got you to where you're at today. So I think that this is just something monumental, at least in our life. And the whole theme of this entire episode is just, just start. Like, that's it. Just start. Get it done. Get the reps in and get it out.

Yeah. And that looks different for everybody. Just start can mean in 6 months, it could be tomorrow, it could be right now. But just making that progress, working up that courage to get there. I mean, this podcast took weeks in the making for us to get here, but we are here. And I think it came at the perfect time because it's January 1st, 2026, and we're starting fresh. I know people say don't, don't wait till January, start now. But this is our now and we're doing the best of what it is.

Yeah. I mean, I'm thinking about weight loss. I mean, how many Resolution people are going to be out there saying, I'm going to the gym. I'm going to start my weight loss program. And I'm a big proponent of start before you decide to do it. And when I say that, I mean like, I'm not going to wait till Monday to do something. If it's Saturday and it's on my mind, I'm going to do it Saturday. And I'm going to get 2 days worth of work in. By the time it's Monday, I'm already in it. Like, I'm in a groove. I'm not going to wait. And I felt like this podcast, and I know you did say, you know, wait 6 months from now. Don't do that. Just do it. Do it now. If it's on your mind, if it's been bothering you, do it. Because if you keep putting off 6 months from now, you're going to put it off another 6 months from then. So just start now.

Pull the bandaid.

Pull the bandaid. Let it rip. Let it bleed. Let it scab. Continue on. I was going to try to—

Let it clot.

Let it clot. Yeah. I'm going to try to drop a bar. Um, but to tie this in, because I know we're getting a little bit long here, you know, the— I was thinking about the title of what the podcast would be. And trying to tie in at least my part of life, since this is technically me on my channel, you know, I started a little Instagram channel, um, for mindset and, you know, uplifting people in a sense. And we're really big on legacy. Our business is Legacy Page Financial. And Wealthy Muscle is what stuck to me. One, because I work out and a lot of my content on YouTube used to be fitness stuff. And wealth, and wealth means something so much different for everybody else. Some people, it just means you got money. Wealth means you have this right here as wealth, just a nice homey environment with your cat in your lap. This is wealth right here and you cherish it. And I feel like so many people struggle to get wealthy and they struggle to get muscle, which your health is your wealth, right? I felt like you got to put in reps for each one to be able to get somewhere for that compound to really take effect. You go to the gym Monday through Friday, you do one rep at a time, you get stronger, muscle gets bigger. Well, you put in one rep at a time, you try to build a business, try to build a legacy. It takes time. You might fail, but you're gonna keep going. Your kids will probably benefit off that wealth, your family, your great-grandchildren. You're gonna build a legacy off of that. So I feel like it just goes hand in hand with Wealthy Muscle. I, I love the, the Wealthy Muscle podcast. Like I think that's just such a dynamic tone to it that just would build certain individuals to kind of come to that. You know, a lot of maybe masculine people, cuz I really want fitness to be a part of it, but I, I want in strong, intentional people because I feel like the gym is such a strong foundation for people cuz you can make money, sure. But when you're putting in hard reps in the gym and really suffering, you know, bringing in that pain, why am I going through this? Why is it leg day and I'm squatting all this weight? But at the end of the day, you feel so good.

Clearly, you're butt in this whole time.

All right, that's so dark. I feel like the foundation— I feel as the foundation to muscle is the foundation of your well-being. So that's why— why are people watching this right now?

Quite clearly, I was miserable. I think there is no better name than getting with Justin here, getting married. Um, I was like, something about it. I think I quit my job.

It's up to us to make a decision. And I think the hardest part for me is to realize longevity.

Longevity in business, longevity in your life, longevity for your family. You are the rock to our family. I can truly say that. Um, and an amazing husband. I love you. I appreciate you. But, um, when you said that name to me, I couldn't think anything that resonates more with my husband because If anyone knows Justin, and you'll grow to know him in this podcast, is that he is extremely disciplined. He is regimented and he, he doesn't bend or break. When you put your mind to something, you are there. And I don't even know how he keeps that discipline because a lot of people even just, you know, they fall off, they get back on, they fall off, they get back on. But not Justin. He's consistent. Very, very consistent, and that means he's reliable. You can trust this dude that he's going to do what he says he does. And like you said, wealthy is not just being rich in money, it could be rich in life. And that discipline translates between fitness and with business. So when you see someone that's fit, you already know that they are regimented, they stick to what they do. And that they're gonna commit. If they can commit in fitness, they could likely commit in a lot of other things. So I think that you don't meet a lot of, um, successful people that are just, you know, 300 pounds. They are out there, but most people that are successful in life are very successful in their fitness too because they wanna be prosperous in all aspects of life. So I think that's a great community to have. You're gonna have a lot of men and women that are into fitness and business that wanna follow this and, um, just share that mindset with each other.

Fitness and business. I like that.

We're gonna change the name. Fitness and business.

Fitness and business. I mean, that's like a little playoff on that. I think that's really cool though. But I really appreciate it though. It almost, it's almost like you said your vows and you're really saying some endearing things to me just now, which you always do. So you don't say things, but I don't know, that's always our, we're our biggest—

You said save it for the podcast.

Yeah, I did. We're always our biggest critic. So, you know, we're always inside our head and in our head, at least my head, it's always negative thoughts and negative thoughts of you need to do this better. You need to do this. Why aren't you doing that? You're slacking. Why is not enough weight there? You're not making enough money. You're driving too slow and then you'll get a ticket, you know? It's so much negative thoughts in my head that I don't really embrace myself and say, Justin, you're doing a good job there, buddy. You know, like, hey, I'm so— it was a good move there. I don't really give myself grace. And I think that, well, going to church, not trying to tie it back to church, but, you know, giving that grace to God creates that positive mindset to then give yourself some positivity because you're like, you know, I can do this through the grace of God, which makes me uplift myself and my own intentions. And I think that's so powerful because those negative thoughts fade away. So now you're moving even stronger, probably twofold what you would've normally moved had you just not been in your own way. So all that to say, thanks, hun.

Oh, I love you. And I guess whatever you said just now resonated with me a little bit. Not to go off on this again, but I was watching the Chris Williamson podcast with the Diary of a CEO, and they're talking about Searching classes of people, how they don't live in the now, that you're in the class that always looks for the next thing in life. And even when you're working, working, working, you're never— even though like compared to the average Joe, you are working your ass off, but in your head you're not. You're always looking for the next thing, and you never look back on the day and be like, damn, I put in a lot of work, like good job, good job, Justin. Yeah, you never stop and pause and think that, like you're always just like, okay, go, go, go, go, I achieved this, but I have 10 other things to achieve.

Yeah.

And even when you reach that, there's gonna be 10 more things.

Yeah.

But that's why those people are successful. That's why we will get to those levels because you are in that. But we do need to take a break once in a while and give yourself a pat on the back.

Mm-hmm.

And also just appreciate everything we have around us. Like we have a beautiful house, beautiful marriage. Beautiful family. Yeah. And, um, a lot of things to be grateful for. So I think, look, I guess cuz it's January 1st, we'll look back a little bit and be like, it was one hell of a hard year for a lot of people, especially us. But I'm extremely grateful for everything around us. And this podcast that we're building is gonna document a lot of things that it's gonna be really nice to look back on.

Yeah, absolutely. And 2 things you said there. One, when you said about thinking about the things that you do, you know, and giving yourself that grace, makes me think of me and Kyle. We were working out in the gym one time and he was like, bro, you ever just stop and just be like—

Sorry.

I've never seen someone laugh cough before. What was that?

I don't know.

Okay, but so we were in the gym working out and Kyle's like, bro, don't you ever just like stop and be like, damn, bro, you got married, you got a house, you bought an M4 Competition, like you're making money, like you ever just stop and be like, man? And I was just like, I actually, actually paused and I thought about it. I was like, no, I don't. I look at that stuff and not like you as a stuff, but I look at it and I said, okay, I have this. I need to continue to keep it, embrace it, make it more. But I never stop and just like be like, man, I did it. You know, cause I feel like when I say, man, I did it, it means, man, I made it, which means I'm like at that checkpoint of closing off, closing off and stopping. So it's always like you said, the next thing, the next thing, not the next woman, the next wife, anything like that. Like this is But now that I'm married, okay, now we have a base.

Yeah.

Let's build a stronger foundation. Let's, well, not even stronger foundation. Let's just build a house on top of this base that we have. And that's our business, which will then be kids, which will be then grandkids, you know, that really, that wealth, you know? And I, I just need to give myself a little more.

You do.

Stop and smell the flowers once in a while, you know? I don't, I don't think I do that.

No, he definitely does not smell any flower. There's not even a flower near him to smell. Oh. Yes. So we'll, we'll work on it.

That'll be my 2026 goal is to stop and reflect in a way of looking around at what I have and just say, thank you, God.

Yeah.

I think that's what I need to do, but not to keep this podcast going on here too long. Um, we're just wanting to get this going. Just to have a conversation with each other, warm up to each other. We're actually, um, I think it'll be therapeutic for even our marriage. And not saying that we have a bad marriage at all. Like, we're literally best friends. Our entire call logs are each other because we're just goofballs. But I think that this is gonna even make us dig deeper as couples, you know, because we don't really have in-depth conversations. Maybe we do spurts, but we don't really sit down and talk about it.

Like, because we never have time.

Yeah, it's true. We never have time. So this is actually making time for us to actually have intentional conversations. So not to say that we want to throw all our business out in the world, but it's just nice to have relatable conversations with other people and just to see who people who are thriving that are married and what their thoughts are, what their experiences are with certain things here. So that's the best way to form some type of good community is education.

The content I love to consume are people, you know, females like me that their spouses around, their wives, and seeing them interact, and I love that. So I think hopefully this resonates with you guys out there, even if you're single. Hopefully you like watching our content.

I got some people, you know, just let me know, send me a message. I'll, uh, hook you up with somebody, you know?

Okay.

Well, we're gonna conclude it here. It's after 2 o'clock in the morning. Thank you guys for tuning in if you made it this far. Again, my name is Justin Page. This is Cassandra Page. This is the Wealthy Muscle Podcast. Leave your feedback down at the bottom. Subscribe. We're gonna try to do— actually, we need to say this now. We are gonna try to make a podcast episode.

This is the first time I'm hearing it too. Every week? Every 2 weeks at the most. At the most or at the least?

I don't know which is better. At the least.

At the least is better. Okay. Okay.

All right. Yeah, I think you're playing on me. Okay. So we're gonna try to do this every couple of weeks, if not every week, cuz that is how you build those reps to then make it seamless as if it's just a part of your regular day activity, like you're brushing your teeth, if you brush your teeth. So with all that said there, thank you guys for watching, staying tuned. We hope to see you guys on the next one. Feedback, like I said, drop down below and happy new year. Happy new year.