Terrin Elam
24 Jul 2023 · 27 min
Taryn Elam played basketball at McClintock High, served four years in the Navy with three deployments, then started a carpet-cleaning business called Grand Steam with his brother Marcus. He went full-time in October and brought Marcus on in February, now managing a growing operation while raising three kids under 10.
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Four years
Three deployments
About 17 countries
McClintock High School; won the state championship in 2010
Two years at Phoenix College
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Who do we have today?
We have an amazing individual who comes to us from some other well respected leaders in our community. This guest is a native of Arizona and a graduate of McClintock High School and went on to play college basketball for two years before joining the United States Navy where he served four years with three deployments and visited 17 countries. Today he owns the Grand Steam and he and his wife are settled into the community in raising three kids under the age of 10. Please welcome today our guest, Taryn Elam.
It's Elam. I knew she's gonna mess it up.
I said it correctly.
I know. She did that. I had to just do that.
Did I say it wrong?
You said it right. Thank you.
Taryn, welcome. Thanks for being here, man. I'm so glad to have you. We're going to start with what we call rapid fire.
Fill in the blank. Happiness is.
I don't know. In abundance. I don't know.
Okay.
Okay. What is your. I'm curious about this. What is your hidden talent?
I don't have one.
Come on. Walking on your hands or. I don't. Riding a unicycle. You got something.
You're a really good basketball player.
Okay.
And he can get stains out of carpets.
And he can get stains out of carpets.
A concert you will never forget.
This is gonna sound horrible. Up in Smoke concert from snoop Dogg and Dr. Dre and I probably shouldn't have been there, but hey, you'll never forget it.
I regret not being there. So.
I think I know this. Cause of what you've already shared. But have you ever lived abroad?
Yeah, yeah. Yeah. All over the place. Not by choice, though. Not by choice.
It was that same night at the concert. I'm sure.
What is something people get wrong about you?
People think I'm mean, I'm not very. I'm actually a really nice guy. I just. The fate. I think it's the. I don't know.
It's how you eat your steak maybe.
Yeah.
Something.
Yeah.
What makes you hopeful?
My kids Kids, my family. It always get better.
I love that. Are you more of a thinker or a doer?
I think a little bit of both. I definitely gotta think it out before I do something, but we wish Ben would do that. I try to get it done as fast as I can. Whatever it is, as best as I can.
All right, this is another good one. I'm glad I got this one. If you were to play. If someone were to play you in a movie, who would you want that to be?
Denzel Washington. Oh, yeah. Yes.
The nice Denzel or the mean Denzel?
Training day. Denzel.
Oh, the scary one.
Oh, yeah, that was. What is your favorite pastime or hobby?
I really like to watch sports. Basketball. Football. Doesn't matter.
Favorite team? Football.
Denver Broncos.
Okay.
Basketball. Don't really have one.
Okay, last question. What is one thing and only one thing? Cause you got a lot.
I'm sure that you're grateful for my family.
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Learn more@dignityhealth.org Arizona. Let's start at the very beginning. Tell us about you and your childhood and growing up and here, right here in Arizona.
So I grew up in Phoenix, Arizona. I mean, I'm the youngest of five. Grew up in a big sports family. My dad worked for Southwest Gas for 35 years. He retired. My mother works in the semiconductor industry still. She worked in intel for years, Motorola for years. Like I said, it was fun growing up in Phoenix. Big basketball family. My brothers played basketball, I played basketball, my cousins, everybody. I mean, from there I went to McClintock High School. It's a little bit out of my district, but the coach saw me playing in a tournament. He was like, I think you'd be really good at McClintock.
Okay.
My brothers went there as well, so I think that's a majority of the reason I went there.
Different coach, but that was all boys in the family.
Two girls.
Okay. And did they play basketball too?
My oldest or not? My oldest sister. The sister under her. So I guess like the. It's kind of hard to explain, but she played basketball. My older sister didn't. She didn't play basketball any sports. Okay.
What position basketball were you?
I was a guard.
Guard, okay, so you got some three point skills on you.
I was actually a really good shooter. Yeah, I shot 52% from three in high school.
I see how you say this in past tense.
I do not play anymore. It doesn't work. My body doesn't work. I don't have a back.
Got it.
It's just non existent.
Okay, so you have two really busy parents, obviously professionals and hard workers with five kids. What did it look like? Was there a lot of balance? Were they able to really support you in your sports or what did that look like for you?
Yes, my parents never missed a game. It was actually quite impressive. Yeah, never missed a game. I had out of state games. They never missed any games. I think they might have missed one. And my dad was like, I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry.
You won't hold it against him?
No, no, not at all. Not at all. It was a good balance. My dad was definitely like a hard worker. Yeah. Kind of showed us how to, you know, carry yourself as far as being a man, taking care of your responsibilities, handling, you know, taking care of your family, being a provider. And my mom was like the sweet touch, you know, like that's. I always say I get my being a good person. I get that from my mom. My dad was more of like a, hey, let's get it done. This is how you do it. If you commit to something, you finish that kind of, you know.
Yeah. Good balance.
I can see how that's probably carried into your professional career as well. Then how that get it done work side, but then caring for customers. I'm seeing that already. Through the influences of your parents, right?
Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, absolutely.
So basketball player and sports in general, you had a lot of coaches that were most likely part of your sphere. Any of those stand out in your mind that like really influenced you and impacted your journeys?
Yes, absolutely. Jace Coburn, he's the head coach at Portland State right now, but he's my high school coach. He was very young when I was in high school. He might have been like 22 years old, but I mean, it was kind of. He just really believed in me. He like, you know, when he got there, he was told that basically I was like lazy and a waste of talent is what he was told. And he pretty much rode me so hard, like to the point I Went home to my dad, and I was like, dad, I don't want to play basketball anymore. This guy's crazy. But crazy's good, though. Yeah. He brought out, like. I would say he brought out, like, the best in me. Like, it wasn't. He didn't do anything to hurt me. It was just. I just wasn't used to anyone pushing me like that. And he, like, brought out the best in me, so I really, really, really appreciate him. We also won a state championship for McClintock in 2010.
He knew what he was doing.
Yeah, he did.
He did.
He did.
That's awesome.
Okay, so basketball, then. You went on to play that sport in college too, right?
Yes, I played basketball at Phoenix College for two years.
Fantastic.
And the first male to graduate from college in your family?
Yes, ma'.
Am.
That's amazing.
Yes, ma'.
Am.
Afterward, though, I. So after I left Phoenix College, my wife and I. She was pregnant with my son at the time, so I had to make a decision. Do I keep pursuing my dream or do I become, you know, now do I take care of my family? So I decided to put them first, which I thought was the right thing. I. I hope we would. Right. And I joined the Navy. Joined the Navy and then did that for four years. Played all Navy basketball, and then I came back, and then that's when I finished pursuing my degree.
Well, and I appreciate, like you, you say that so matter of factly, but that's actually a really big, pivotal decision in your life. How do you get to that decision? And. And what type of conversations did you have to ultimately, you know, sign on the dotted line and do it?
To me, honestly, it was like a no brainer, I'll be honest. And I think that comes from my dad. As a man, you got to take care of your responsibilities. It's not my son's fault that he was brought into this world. So I didn't think it was fair for me to pursue my dreams at that point. So I decided, hey, I need a good foundation about myself, and I think this is the way to go.
And Navy, why did you select that particular branch of the Air Force of the military?
So I'll be 100% honest. It wasn't my first choice. I wanted to go to the Air Force, but at the time, the military in general had a very strict tattoo policy. You had to be able to, like, cover your tattoo with your hand or it's like a rule, I don't know. But at that point, they were like, oh, you're disqualified. I'm like, okay. So I walked next door to the navy, and they were like, oh, we'll take you. And I was like, all right.
That's crazy.
They had a really good nuclear program as well.
I was gonna ask you what you went into and what you kind of.
I couldn't get in the nuclear program at the time, but I did score really, really well. And I was struck a machinist mate. That was my job, which we were like propulsion mechanics.
So you got to travel a bit then? Quite a bit, yeah. Go ahead.
Yeah. I was gonna say, what are some of the most interesting places that you visited?
Dubai, Singapore, Phuket, Thailand. I would probably say those are my three favorite places that I've been.
Yeah. What about. What about those places?
So Singapore. I've never been anywhere. Like, that's like the cleanest place I've ever seen.
Really?
Yeah. They have a lot of, like. I don't want to say weird, but, like, really crazy rules. You can't, like, walk and eat. It's against the law. You can't, like, walk and drink water, anything. It's against the law. You can't even get on someone. Like, if you go to a restaurant, you have to ask them, can I get on your wi fi? Or it's considered stealing.
Wow.
It's like. But it's. The place looks so clean. Like, the streets and stuff.
It looks so clean because there's no trash. Nobody's dropping stuff.
Yeah, yeah, it looks so clean. It's pretty cool. Pretty cool. Dubai. Such a wealthy country. Such a wealthy country. I've never seen, like, some of the things I took pictures in front of, like, 24 karat gold Lamborghinis and like, the police drive, like, Ferraris. And we were on a tour and the guy says, don't be surprised if you see someone driving by with like, an exotic animal, you know, or something like that. And as he's saying, this guy's flying by and I don't even know what kind of car it was. He had a cheetah sitting in the front seat. It's like the weirdest thing I was like, was that planned?
That's crazy.
I've heard that about Dubai. That sounds like a crazy place. But, yeah, at the same time, it's very interesting. Yeah.
So they have the gold souk there too. It's pretty cool.
So you went like 17 countries when you were on the military tours, and you're mentioning some of the greatest ones you went to. What kind of challenges did you have during that time in your life? That's. Some people thrive, some people, you know. How did it go for you?
Some of the challenges, obviously, being separated from my family, that was tough. My last deployment, I missed Christmas, Thanksgiving, I mean, all the major holidays that people want to be there for. You know, Thanksgiving, Christmas, New Year's, missed birthdays. So those were very challenging. Trying to support my son and my wife, my daughter. At the time, we only had my oldest son and my oldest daughter. My only son and my oldest daughter.
Yeah.
But trying to show support, you know, be supportive for them from around the world, you know, trying to call. It's like 2 o' clock in the morning where I'm at, but it's like six o' clock in the morning at home. And.
Yeah.
You know, still trying to be a father figure and support my wife because obviously that's hard for her too. You know, being separated. So I think that was like the most challenging. And then obviously living in like, a sleeping area with like 250, 300 guys, that was rough.
Yeah. Yeah. Well, they always. I always hear. I wasn't in the military myself, but I always hear that after you've finished your tour, you walk away with so much knowledge and just new skills on life. What kind of things you come to mind that resonate for you in that way?
Absolutely. The Navy is pretty much provided everything that I've. That I have, that I'm able to do, that I've been able to accomplish. I mean, I purchased my first home because I joined the military. My wife and kids, they can go to college because I joined the military. I am a disabled veteran. So my wife has been. My wife and I, we have benefits until we're 65 and then, you know, Social Security, if we still have it. But all that stuff, you know, like, everything that I've accomplished, it started with me joining the Navy and those things like that you can't. Like, I don't even know how to explain. Like, I'm so grateful for that opportunity to be able to do that. I won't sit here and say I was one of those guys, like, gotta go serve my country. I'll be honest. I went because I felt like I didn't really have any other options. And it ended up being probably one of the best decisions I've ever made in my life. I have lifelong friends. I'm in a group now. I talk to those guys pretty much every day. We laugh, we joke, we cry, whatever we need to do, you know, and they're really good guys. Really good group of guys. So Those experiences that I've had with those guys being on the ship, it's taught me a lot, you know. It's taught me a lot.
Yeah, I can imagine. Okay, so now you get back. Is that when this business comes about or how does this. What happens next?
So when I separated from the Navy, I initially I took a job with a company called Air Products, and I was an industrial gas tech, basically. So we maintained all of the industrial gases that are used to make the microchips for like, you know, an intel and Motorola and all those places like that. So I was industrial gas tech there. And then I said, hey, man, I want to go back to being a plant operator also in the Navy. Sorry, I'm jumping back. Sure. In the Navy, I was a cryogenic technician. We made liquid oxygen, liquid nitrogen, argon, all that kind of stuff. It was pretty cool for the pilots to breathe and all that stuff. So after I got with Air Products, I was there two years, I think, and they had a opening at the plant. I think I'm gonna go back to operating. So I took that job or applied for it, and I got it. And I worked there, I would say maybe just about a year. But the schedule was like, so wacky. Like, it was just all over the place. Like, you'd work like two days, days, and then you're off for a day or like three days, nights. And then so I was, like, just really grumpy and tired. My wife didn't like me, the kids didn't like me.
That was all part of their plan, I guess, huh?
I guess so. But I say, you know what? I can't do this anymore, man. My body's all messed up. Like, I'm just always tired. Like, I couldn't even sit down. I'd fall asleep. So I took a different job. It was. They used to be Air Products, but they. We sold off that portion of the company. So I went and worked with those guys called Versa Materials, as I mentioned earlier. And again, I was an industrial gas tech at that point, again. But as a traveling. I was on the traveling team. So the last year before I started the company, I was working in New Mexico. So Monday through Friday, I was working probably 70 to 80 hours a week. Monday through Friday. I would leave New Mexico Friday evening, drive here, do job carpet cleaning jobs all day Saturday, all day Sunday, drive back Sunday evening. I did that for a year, just my brother and I, and that's how we got it started. It just kind of started out as like, hey, let's just earn some Extra cash. And then my brother was like, hey, dude, I think we're onto something here.
Yeah. So in essence, you're building the wealth so you could support yourselves to do the business full time. Right. That's what you're after. Okay, I follow that. I can relate to that. Sweet. And so the idea for the business, where'd that come from? Like, seems like that's a tangent from what you're doing, but yet not right.
Yeah, I'll be 100% honest with you, man. I was literally. I was in New Mexico, just got off work, and I was on my phone and I was scrolling on Instagram. You ever seen those, like, satisfying videos?
Yes.
No joke. It was this guy, he was, like, cleaning carpet. And I watched it, like, 10 times, and I was like, it's like this light bulb went off, like, boom. Like, dude, you could do that? I was like, yeah, I could do that. So I started watching more, watching more, and I started YouTube, like, okay, how do you actually car be clean? Like, what is. What are the steps? And then from there, that's when I called my brother. I was like, hey, dude, my brother's name is Marcus, by the way. He's awesome. So I called my brother, I'm like, hey, dude, I think I wanna start a carpet cleaning business. And he was like, all right.
What was he doing during this time?
So my brother, he's a driver. He has a CDL delivery guy kind of deal. He can drive anything with wheels. Always say that may not go straight.
But he can drive it.
Yeah, he can drive it, though.
Okay, got it.
He can get it from point A to point B. Everybody watch out, though. But, yeah, he was like, hey, man, you know, if you think you can do it, you know, give it a shot, you know, so.
And then you said, but I want you to join me.
Not really. Not at first. I kind of wanted to go out there and see what it was like. And then I said, hey, man, After I started noticing, like, oh, people actually want to want my services. Like, wow, you want me to clean your carpet? Okay. So then I said, hey, man, sooner or later, this thing's gonna take off and I'm gonna need some help, so you should just start learning how to do it now. He's like, all right. And then it kind of took off, and here we are.
Here you are.
Here we are.
Okay. And so you're basically full time this now?
Yeah, I went full time in October, and then I brought my brother on full time in February.
Wow.
Owning and running a business has got Its own challenges, I know for sure. How are you figuring all that out? Because that's not something. It's kind of hard knocks or you have somebody that helps you with that or mentors you or.
Yes, it is very challenging. And there's a lot of things that you don't think about when you work for someone that you know. I never had to worry about marketing or I never had to worry about accounting.
Taxes.
Taxes.
Payroll.
Yeah, payroll. I never had to worry about any of that stuff. I just wake up on Friday like, sweet, got paid. Now it's like, I don't know if I'm gonna get paid this week. Yeah, might not.
And it's your problem.
Yeah, might not get paid. But I gotta pay my brother. We gotta figure it out, you know, and it's like, it's very challenging. But that was part of the reason I wanted to join the Gilbert Chamber of Commerce. To kind of get around like minded individuals at different levels of business. You know what I mean? Like, there are some people that have been in business for 30 years. There are some people that have been in business for five years. There are some people that have been in business for five months. So just talking to all those different individuals and being able to pick their brains and see what they've been through, what they, you know, what they have accomplished. I think that's the biggest part about joining the Gilbert Chamber of Commerce. Being able to meet those different people. And then on top of, I've met some awesome individuals outside of the Gilbert Chamber of Commerce, just doing some cleanings, like, oh, I own a, you know, a restaurant or hey, if you ever need any help, you know, things like that. And I think, I think it's pretty awesome.
Yeah. So now you're probably thinking scalability, right? Maybe, like, how are you going to grow this thing?
Yeah, we're kind of trying to just, you know, grow at a decent pace. I definitely want to scale it, but I don't know how large I want to scale it yet. But we definitely want to scale it. I would definitely like to have at least another van for my brother so we can be in two different areas and cover more ground. And I think I'll be. I think that's what we're working on next.
And I can appreciate that approach because sometimes, you know, growing too quickly is not exactly the right step for every business. So easy does it.
Yeah. And I'll be honest, like half the time I'll be. I'm winging it.
Yeah.
Just kind of trying to figure it out. You Know, ask questions when I, you know.
But the truth is, that's how it all starts for, for most people. Most people are winging it. They're learning as they go. They're making the mistakes and then. And they're falling forward. So, yeah, you took the step. What do you think is the most surprising thing about being a business owner?
So I was just telling my wife this the other day. It seems like as soon as I feel like, oh, boy, here we go, it's over. It's like the phone just starts ringing off the hook and now it's back. It's just a roller coaster ride. It's like, man, the phone hasn't rung all week. We only did one job or two jobs. And then like Wednesday or Thursday, it's like, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. And I'm like, oh, boy, here we go. Yeah. So I think that's been like, just being able to kind of control my emotions and like, hey, man, you'll be all right. Stay the course.
The lack of consistency in that process really gets your anxiety up, doesn't it?
Yeah.
And the big thing is, like, I'm not so concerned about myself. I don't want to let my brother down.
Yeah.
You know, he took this step with me, you know, trusting me. To me, that's like the biggest. I don't want to break his trust.
And that right there will get you through. You'll be good. All right. Talk about how you balance all of this professional work with raising a family.
You know, it's an everyday battle. It is. My wife tells me all the time, you don't know how to say no. And I don't. I don't even when I work for the company, I don't know. I don't know how to say no. Hey, Taren, you want to work? Yep. And it gets me in trouble every time.
Except when she says, hey, you want to do the dishes?
And I say, nope.
Uh huh. So she knows that can be done.
I say, yeah. I say, yeah. And then I delegate it. That's right.
Hey you. Hey you, get over here.
Yep. My son, his name is Taren junior. Hey, son, check this out, man. Cool people do dishes.
Well, good for you if he's still buying that line. Cause that'll change.
But yeah, it's an everyday battle. It gets rough sometimes. But my wife, she's awesome. She's very supportive. She's never like, told me, no, I don't think you should do that. If I say, hey, honey, I think I want to try Give it a go, see what happens. It doesn't work. Come back to the drawing board or try something else, you know, so she's pretty awesome. She makes it all possible, to be honest with you. Everything that we do, everything that the kids. I have no dealing. I mean, I deal with my kids, obviously, but the people that they are and their little personalities and, you know, their manners and all that stuff. My wife, she has done all that, and I have to give her all that credit. I'm just. I wasn't there for a lot of it. You know what I mean? I was deployed. I work a lot, so my wife's a stay at home mom.
Well, you have a lot of years left. You have young families. I am certain that you're going to be an important part of their life.
Yeah, absolutely. I mean, we're, you know, still trying to catch up from the time when I was in the Navy, but it was. Yeah, it was. Well, I needed to make that sacrifice for us to be where we are now, so.
All right, so you're a business owner, which means you are a dreamer, too. Let's dream a little bit. What's the future look like for you?
The future for me, I'll be honest, probably maybe three, two, four vans and just kind of being able to step back and spend that time with my family for me to be able to get out of the vans and carpet clean, make my brother operations manager and, you know, where he can spend that time with his family as well and, you know, have a good team around me, that would be. That's kind of where we're shooting for.
You mentioned you have a sister, right?
I do.
She gonna be part of this? Are they gonna be part of this?
My oldest sister, she's a nurse practitioner. She's awesome. And then the sister under her, she lives in Dallas, Texas. But she keeps telling me I need to take the show on the road, so I don't. I don't know. I'm kind of.
I mean, you know, she could answer the phones from there and, you know, all that good stuff for you. She probably would hate you for saying that. Probably.
Yeah, probably. She's pretty sharp.
Blame me for it.
Yeah. Well, I love the fact that you have the vision and you know where you want to go. That's the first step in getting there, so.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Thank you.
Well, thank you, sir, for joining us today. This has been a great conversation. Love hearing about it. Appreciate your service to our country and for all your work you're doing in the Gilbert community. Being part of the chamber is fantastic. That's how I started my little businesses. And I'm sure you're on the right path there for sure. Stay clear of this girl, though, and everything else should be fine.
Well, I think she's all right. Absolutely. I appreciate you guys for having me on the show. It's truly an honor. I appreciate it.
Well, we love having you here. We love learning about you and your journey and can't wait to see what you're going to accomplish in the future.
Thank you. Thank you.
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