Wills Amstutz

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Yeah, today I'm excited to dive in because we have the opportunity to get to know someone that I actually don't know very well.

That never happens, actually, on this show. She always knows everybody well.

Always a new opportunity. This Arizona native grew up right here in the East Valley. He left traditional school after the eighth grade and achieved his GED at the age of 23. He shares a close bond with his sister, and together they started Windows and Wheels auto detailing in 2012. While the business and the team continues to grow, this guest believes the best is yet to come. Please welcome Wills.

And I appreciate that.

Yes. I wanted to emphasize the S after.

Will's Will with an S. Yes. Got it.

I was thinking you should put a Z at the end, like your last name. So you'd be Wills.

Oh, that'd be cool.

That might be more gangster pop star. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, thanks for being here.

I appreciate you guys inviting like this is kind of unexpected, but I really appreciate it. And it's exciting too, because, I mean, the other podcasts I've done in the past are like strictly industry related. It's not so much, you know, all about you. That's cool. I'm really excited about it.

All right, so we start with what.

We call Rapid Fire Round.

See how this goes. All right. Okay.

Would you rather sing in public or dance in public?

We're gonna go with sing on that one. Don't ask me to though.

Never say never.

What is one of your nicknames? And it can't be Will's.

My sister calls me Juni. She called me Junebug as a kid and she now just calls me Juni. And it's stuck forever.

That's adorable.

And real quick, your official real name is Wilhelm.

Wilhelm. Super German. That's why I go by Wills.

Understand?

Would your 12 year old self think you are cool today?

Totally. My 12 year old self be scared to talk to me today. I think I was very much so introverted, but I think. I think my 12 year old me and my current me would get along.

Wills, have you ever won a contest?

A contest? Like, one that actually counts for something, maybe. So for a period of time, I was doing martial arts with my girlfriend. She has a martial arts business on the west side, and. And she'll probably literally kick me for not having gone back, because it's been about three years, but. But yeah, I. I used to compete with that, and I got a couple of first place and, like, the lower level, so. Okay, yeah, if that counts as a contest, that'll work.

I mean, Sarah usually thinks, like, cakewalks and stuff, but that'll work.

I never won stuff like that. No, absolutely.

Favorite movie of all time.

The first one that comes to mind is Bird. It was a. Like, a Clint Eastwood documentary with Forest Whitaker on Charlie Parker, the saxophone player. Really big into jazz music when I was younger, so it was an awesome movie. Very, very well done.

How do you overcome failures?

I think part of it is expecting them to start with, and then the fact that I've done it plenty and plenty and plenty of times helps a lot. But I just try to keep in mind, like, what comes next after that. I only count it a failure if I quit.

I love that. Fill in the blank. Joy is.

Ooh, so much for rapid fire. Okay. Joy. I don't know. Like, I think joy is like a inner peace. Like, kind of being content with yourself and knowing yourself is a happy place for me. It's a joyful place for me.

Cool.

This will be interesting, because you kind of hinted to this already, but maybe you've changed. Are you more of an introvert or an extrovert?

Oh, yeah. I'm like, I'm an introvert that moonlights as an extrovert. Like, I can pass now and come and do stuff like this, but 10 years ago. No, I'm not coming in here. No way. No way.

I think most of us are actually that same. Do you have a favorite book?

I've probably got two. I've got one on the business side that I really liked that was called Profit first and the E. Myth Revisited. Those are probably my two favorite business books. And on the personal side, I really enjoyed the Autobiography of Frederick Douglass. I was actually thinking about that book the other day. It's really funny that you asked me about that, but that's one that I want to recommend to my daughter because she's getting a little bit older now, and I think it would be a good one for her to read. But it was. It was a very encapturing book. Like, it was one that I just wanted to keep going with.

Yeah. Yeah, that's awesome.

All right, last one.

Here you go. Ready? What's up?

What is one thing you are grateful for today?

Yeah. And just any day I can wake up and, you know, have another day with the people that I love and that I care about and hopefully meet some new cool people as well. Like, I'm always grateful for that.

So first of all, thank you for looking at me, Sarah, but also, Wills, I love you already. This is gonna be great.

Yeah, this is good. All right, let's dig into it.

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All right, so let's talk a little bit first. You talked about. You shared with us earlier some of your childhood and specifically your best friend and godfather, Turk and I just wanted to. He came into your life at a young age. So share with us a little bit about your childhood and also the influence of this individual.

It was. I don't know, like, childhood was kind of. Kind of crazy. It was never like I went without or anything like that. But, like, my dad divorced my mom when I was pretty young. I think I was 4 at the time. My sister was around 2. My mom was like, stay at home mom, right? So she kind of got thrown into turmoil, but she always. She always worked her butt off. Like, she never let us go without. And my dad was still in our life, so not speaking illy on him or anything, but my mom started going back to church around that time, and she was introduced to my. My godfather. Turk is his name. Basically, she was introduced to him from K. Somebody that she didn't even really know at church. And they're just like, michelle, I know you're going through this and that you really gotta meet Turk. It was just a really weird situation of how the two of them met. He had just gotten divorced. He had just moved out here from Chicago. And so it was never like a romantic relationship between them. It was just a really good friendship. And he made a big step into our lives as far as raising us, myself and my sister. He was very much so like a strong father figure. A strong dad figure in our lives. Started out kind of just periodic. We'd see him at church kind of thing. And then by the time the point I remember most by the time I hit about 12 or 13, I was actually kind of overweight at the time. So was my sister. And he found out he had diabetes, so his diet had to change. He was never overweight, but he had diabetes and had to change his diet. And so he told my mom, look, start bringing the kids over. I want them to eat the same diet that I'm eating. And next thing I know, like, that was 12, 13. We started trimming out. We started getting into working out, and we were just seeing him every single day. It was an everyday thing that we go over there for dinner and spend a few hours with them. And, I mean, that transitioned into 30 years later. Like, he's. He's really, like, the most prevalent person in my life as far as my foundation, like, who I feel like I am as a person. He's been and still is amazing. Like, he's 80 years old now, and I look at him like, dude, you look like you're about 59. Like, what are you doing, you genetic freak? But he's awesome.

That's amazing. I mean, really, that this individual invested in you, too.

I still. I ask him sometimes, too, like. Like. Like, why, man like you, you had just gotten out of a rough relationship. He was very much so out of. Because he had a lot of foster kids back in Chicago. He was. He was very big into helping children back there. He moved out here, and he told me as I got older, he's like, you know, at that point, when I moved out here, I was like, no more kids. He's like, I just. I need a break. He was like. I said, He's 80 now, so he was about 50 at that point, and then bumps into my mom, and I joke, but I'm also kind of serious. Like, I think my mom could literally stare at these walls if she were here, and she could talk to them, and the walls would talk back. Like, she could get anybody to communicate. She just had that gift of gab, basically. And so they clicked very, you know, pretty much immediately. And for whatever reason, I still can't say why. I mean, it was a huge blessing. It was definitely the biggest turning point in my life, like, looking over long term and even short term, how much of an impact he had on raising myself, raising my sister, and then also helping us to forge a really, really strong relationship together. That was also really huge.

Well, that's what I wanted to dive into as well. That you and your sister have such an incredible relationship and so much so that you could even go into business together.

Totally. First, I'M going to give her, like, a happy belated birthday. Her birthday was on the 26th, but, yeah, maybe. We've always done everything together. We didn't. We didn't plan to go into business. We just worked together doing side jobs. And we happened to fall into liking to work on cars the most, like detailing cars and, you know, making cars look pretty. And I think part of it was because we. We didn't grow up with a lot of money. So when our mom finally got her first new to her car that actually had paint on it, it was like, oh, this is great. We can make this thing look pretty all the time. And it became, like, a fun hobby for us to do. And we were always, like, active as far as doing stuff outdoors, whether at that time detailing or landscaping, working on the yard. And Turk helped us a lot with that as well. Like, he always had his yard immaculate. And guess who got to help that be you. Yeah, man, it was. I don't know, at the time, I was like, ah, here we gotta go again. But now I'm looking back at it. Like, I know it helped us structure a lot of character and a lot of driving. And then also just that time together with her just doing things side by side all the time. We complement each other very well. I'm very much so one way, and she's. I'm like, let's go. I'm pretty much driving forward. And she's like, all right, let's pause and take this 10,000 things you just said and pick two of them that we should maybe focus on first. Because otherwise, yeah, I'm bouncing off walls all the time, so. But we complement each other really well, both personally and in business.

Yeah. How has that relationship evolved over the years? I mean, I'm sure there's been some road bumps along the way, but, yeah, it was.

It was probably more road bumps when we were younger, honestly. Like, we were typical siblings. We'd bump heads and argue and all that kind of stuff. But Turk didn't play that really. Like, he's like, look, you're the older brother. You got to grow up. You got it? You can't. You can't be harassing your sister all the time, man. Like, you gotta. You gotta get yourself together. And he was always in my ear about that, like, all the time. He was very much so an advocate, like, first of all, is your sister, but also just, you know, have respect for women in general. He's like, that's something that. He was. He was raised by five women, and so he Had a very different upbringing than, you know, what a standard man would have. And he was, you know, very much so. Emphasizing to me, like, you need to get this. Get this together. Like, you need to get your attitude together. Young. And you'll. You'll thank me later on when you're older. And I don't. I don't want to say, like, I got to practice with Danny, but Danny was kind of like my sounding board of, if I screwed up, she very much so let me know. Yeah, she keep me straight. But, I mean, those. We got those kind of out of the way early. Not to say we don't have, like, disagreements now.

Sure.

But we're pretty good about knowing each other well enough to where. Okay, maybe we just need 15 minutes. Like, let's simmer down a little bit. Time out, back together and. Yeah, get them back from a timeout and. And work it out.

But you make me hopeful for my own children someday.

How old are yours?

15 and 11.

Boy and girl. Okay. They'll be fine.

I hope so.

Are you sure?

I'm totally sure. As long as they're away from you, then, yeah.

All right. All right, well, let's talk a little bit more now. Like, even more.

So Turk was kind of the father figure, but your dad wasn't involved at all then? Is that what I'm.

My dad was there. Like, it was. It was shared custody, so it was, like, Wednesdays and weekends kind of set up. Then again, like, my dad hears, it's like, I love him to death. I feel like our relationship is better today than it's ever been, but we're definitely two very different people. Like, our thought processes about things and how we look at certain things were very different. And, I mean, he was younger at that time as well. And I'm not gonna lie. Like, I'm sure I held a grudge about the whole divorce at the time. And. But, yeah, I mean, it was. It was a point where we didn't see him for a while from about 12 to 16, and then he actually reached out to us, and he's like, you know, I'd like to rekindle some things with you guys. And it was turmoil the first couple times we met, but oddly enough, like, Turk was very, very strong about, you know, look, I know you guys are bumping heads right now, but try to. You're teenagers, but, you know, try to grow up a little bit. Try to be, you know, a little bit more mature in the relationship, even if you got a burden. Some of the things right now, I'M like, all right. And so we went and we called him back, and I still remember that my sister and I called him back, and he wasn't expecting us to. And it kind of like, all right, let's. Let's have dinner and get it together again. And it. It was one step at a time. It was very much so. One step at a time. But I definitely get some of my traits from him. I know my short patience is from that side of the family, but I know our relationship is much better today than it was 20 years ago. And that was, again, giving Turk credit for that. He was very much so helping support us with that and just being patient and letting things fall into place and not force a relationship to happen again. Being understanding of, no, you're not the same, but you can still. You still get along with each other. Yeah. And he kind of came to the same realization on his side. Like, I've seen changes on his side, very much so on my dad's side over the years, as far as how accepting he is of us and our differences. So it took time. And it's still a work in progress, like anything else, I guess. But I'm grateful that it's there when.

You'Re a dad yourself. And so maybe how do you carry some of that perspective into fatherhood?

I mean, so, like, full cane is like, it's my stepdaughter, but I've been in her life since she was 6, and she's gonna turn 15 next month. So I consider myself, like, being in that role. I never wanna take the place of her biological dad, so I try to be respectful of that. But as far as that figure in her life, I try to do as best as I can, but I never wanted kids to be totally candid. Like, I was very scared of it. Scared of screwing up, you know, and putting, I don't know, any type of negative impact into somebody's life or not being the best that I could have been. But my. My girlfriend, fortunately, is the polar opposite of me. Like, she's very patient and mellow and great with kids. And I've. I've learned a lot from her over the years as far as how to kind of mellow things down a little bit. Things, honestly, in business have helped with that type of relationship, too, like how to deal with people and different personalities. And I know Chris is one of the sponsors here with eos, but when we do business coaching with Chris, he's like, you know, it's just like parenting with business. You got to say something. Seven Times before. It's heard once. And I know he said that to us from a business perspective, but I'm like, I'm going to remember that dealing with Camila is her name. I'm like, I'm going to remember that dealing with her. Because it's one of those things where I'm like, this is the problem. Here's the solution. Done. Let's get out of here. And that's not always the case.

No, no, it is not. But it is true. Parenting, I feel, is the same in that it is about how you make people feel. They'll remember that and, you know, to be okay not always having the answers, but just knowing that you're there for them.

That's the part that I've had to start to learn. I'm always like, the. I want to find the answer or the solution to whatever. And my sister and Shay, my girlfriend, I've been kind of like, sometimes we just need you to listen to us. You don't go solve it for us. Just listen to us.

Actually, please don't try to solve it. Just listen.

Yes, exactly.

That's awesome. So you made a big transition in 2015.

Yes.

In your business.

Big time.

Yeah. So transition from mobile service to an actual shop and a whole different level of responsibility. And I love the way you put it because you said pressure makes diamonds. Talk a little bit about that pivotal moment for you.

It was unexpected. Like we were heavily mobile to begin with and then as we started getting, we went from like a standard detail shop to we really started to specialize in exterior work, like polishing paint. Getting it to look, I mean, pristine and on point was kind of our go to thing. Like, we became very, very good at that.

I actually, I just have to say, I don't ever want you to see my car right now because I like challenges.

Like, we can take it.

It would be your biggest challenge.

I'd like a challenge. I have a 12 passenger van with lots of kids.

Oh, bless you. We just did one of those challenge. Yeah.

It was not accepted.

If I could pressure wash the inside, we're good.

Not to derail your story. Sorry, I just became a little self conscious there.

So that was our roots. That's where we started, was with the disaster cars and a lot of retired people's cars. We worked a lot out of Leisure World in Mesa. That's where my mom got her business going. But once we finally, once I found out what a polisher was like how to polish paint, and I went down that rabbit hole, our business took Its first transition of, we're gonna specialize in this. But those types of jobs were like, my sister and I were nuts. We would spend 40 hours on a car. So we'd have a car for two, three days, like combined 40 hours of work on it. So we eventually started having people just bring their car to our house. We would work on it there. And somebody in our neighborhood, even though it was, love you, Gilbert, but even though it was one car at a time in our garage with the doors closed, and we cut everything off at like 5 or 6 o', clock, somebody reported us to the town and they're like, you can't do that type of work. Even though it's not automotive, mechanically related, it's still automotive. You need to get a brick and mortar to do this out of. And I'm glad I listened to one of your podcasts like before I came because I know it's okay to swear now because we were like, shit, man. Oh, we were scared, man. But again, like, the blessings kind of fell into place and we ended up finding a location literally right across the street from us. So if you know where Mesquite High School is, there's a business complex right on the backside of this or the backside of Mesquite. And ended up meeting an owner of the building. It wasn't somebody who had multiple properties. He was an owner and he ended up being a car guy. Cool. Okay. And he was willing to take a risk on a couple of 20 year olds that had basically no business credit whatsoever and be okay with leasing us the building. And we were smart enough financially to stockpile. Over the years that we had been detailing, we never spent a lot of our money. We would always just reinvest it. So when we went into the building, we're like, oh, all these thoughts and the one day we're gonna do this, all those things were like, we finally have a space to do it. And so it was a lot of sweat equity. Like we were in there painting and laying flooring and lights and kicking down walls. And our dad came into town to help us with that. But we were able to kind of put all those things into play. And now here we are six or seven years later, and we need a bigger space because we've grown that much when we never thought we would use all that space.

That's amazing.

Yeah, I'm super happy about it.

I'd love to hear the story. I'm curious though, going backwards, how did you get into this? Like, was this something you did in school? Or how did you get into this?

It was like I mentioned earlier when our mom got her first new to her car, basically it was 96 Taurus. Like, nothing special, but I had paint on it. All right, we're gonna turtle wax the hell out of this thing like, every weekend. It's gonna be great.

But why? I mean, what got you doing that? Where's this motivation coming from?

I think both from my mom and from Turk growing up. It was like, you take care of the things you have. Okay. And even though we were teenagers at the time, we didn't have money for our own car. So when our mom got one, like, all right, we're gonna take care of this for her. Like, it's a way to, you know, pull a little bit of weight at that age and show some, like, respect for what she did.

But. So is your lawn pristine and your house is super clean, or is it just cars that this fell into? Curious.

It was. It used to be all of the above, totally candid. And then when the cars, like when the business started taking over, now it's like, okay, I need help. So, yeah, like, we have a landscaper that helps us with the lawn. Okay, got it. And like, house. House depends upon the day. But, like, it still bothers me, like, if I, like, that's what I appreciated about the studio when I came. It's like everything's set up really, really nicely and it looks very clean. I like that. Derek's. Yes, Derek's. Awesome. So it bothers me still if it's a house that's messed up or this cup got put in this cupboard instead of this cupboard. That stuff still kind of eggs at me. But I've back to that growing up a little bit. Like, I have a little more understanding of it, but it still bothers me to answer your question. Yeah. Okay, good, good.

Well, I was just curious how you got into that because there's always a story behind that and then where it evolves. So it kind of just money started coming and you started falling into this. And it sounds like the dream started to grow from there.

Well, I'm equally intrigued by your sister's passion for it because that's really non traditional for a woman to have interest in auto detailing. So pretty cool.

Very cool. She was actually the one that knew more about cars than I did. When we got. I love that we'd be driving down the road and she's like, oh, that's blah, blah, blah, blah. And they sold this many of that cars, and that's the best selling I think it was a Sebring. That's the best selling convertible in America right now. And, like, what car are you pointing at? Because if it's not a Corvette or something that's like, got a standout body. I have no idea what you're talking about. But yeah, she was. I mean, she was very much so. Not to play on the term, but detail oriented in terms of everything. Like, she's very clean and organized and precise. And I was like the go getter of, okay, let's turn this into a business. Eventually, like, eventually I started wrapping my head around that. But we did a ton of side jobs to begin with, but all of them kind of revolved around landscaping or retired people. Like, we'd go in and organize their garages, or we'd detail their cars. Or how we got the name Windows and Wheels is we would wash residential house windows and detail their cars mobile. So Windows and Wheels is how we initially came up with that.

Interesting.

Okay, but the wheels part was a lot more fun. Like, especially when we started getting some fun cars to work on, and we really honed our skills on that. But I think everything that we did kind of, you know, worked around that. Keeping things clean, keeping things organized, keeping things looking pristine, or taking something that looks bad, except for 12 passenger vans and making them look great again, it's tough to do.

And I love how scrappy you two are. I mean, amazing that you guys, like, just continue to put work into it, into life. And I mean, I feel like, especially as at a young age, it's really easy just to let life happen and. Sounds like you guys had a different approach.

Yeah, it was like when you were doing that intro and you're like, yeah, you stopped going to school at eighth grade. I'm like, that sounds so horrible. But I wanted to be candid in the questions that you asked.

Well, actually, I was really inspired by the fact that you. I mean, in your 20s, you achieved your GED and like, you didn't give.

Up on that, right? Yeah, it was. I mean, like, my birthday is on the 24th. I was coming up to be 24. I'm like, all right, I want to do this before my golden birthday. Basically, that was like, what I had in my head. And like, I went through and I. I blazed through it. Like, that part was schooling was never, like, hard, hard for me, but it always depended upon the teacher. And so when again, back to younger wills that you're asking about, that was like, I was very much so the introvert I was. I was Always tall. So I wasn't heavily bullied, but to a degree, it was bold. Like, I'd never fit into school. And so our mom pulled us and she wanted to homeschool us. My dad was very much up against that. And so. But she did poll us. It was the most unorthodox homeschooling ever, I think. Like, it was not very. It was not like, super structured. It's like, here's your book. I'm trusting you to do this, I'll be back from work later kind of thing. But we got a lot of on the job training. Like, a lot of. A lot of things that we did day to day were very much so. It was like I was in class every day no matter what. But it wasn't necessarily a classroom, if that makes sense. So I think that's where a lot of our foundation as people came. And then we figured out the rest later on. It was very much so reverse of. Usually you go through high school and figure out what your career is going to be. And it was. We kind of figured out who we were as people first and then figured out our career as it kind of fell into place.

Yeah, I love it. It's inspiring. And it's not easy to be a business owner. It's a brave, bold thing to do.

It's a crazy thing to do. So psychotic. Agreed.

So where are you going now? What's on the roadmap for you guys, for you?

12 months. Like, we want to have a larger location. So we're at about 2500 square feet right now, which.

How many cars can you get into that comfortably?

4.

With creativity? 6. Okay. Yeah, we're all valet parkers at night. It seems like. Like we can squeeze things in. Squeeze things in as needed.

And how many people you have doing this work with you?

Like with myself, sister and myself? There's a team of seven of us. Okay. Wow. Yeah. So there's seven of us right now. Probably gonna need number eight to help with the front office. Like I say on the sales side, but I really hate using that word. Like, I need somebody that's. It's gonna be more like somebody who's gonna listen and cultivate correct services for the people. It's just sales, but I don't want it to be salesy, if that makes sense.

It's okay to call it sales.

It's okay to call it sales. Yeah. But, you know, you know, the stigma.

I know what you' about.

Yeah. So we need that. But yeah, our space is the main thing we need to improve on right now. So hopefully that'll be more space and what keeps you.

What keeps you driven and inspired to continue to grow and move forward.

It used to be like honing my own craft, right? Like, I really wanted to be the best at what I did, whatever it was. And now that I will say older, not old, but as I'm getting older, it's like, I've really enjoyed helping to cultivate other people's careers and not just give them a job, like, I want to give them a literal career, but also there as any type of mentor, if they're open to it, like, to help them not make the mistakes I did when I was younger to help them to think further than what's in front of their face right now. Especially, like, our youngest guy is 19. Nathan, I'm giving you a shout out, bro. You asked me to give you a shout out. I'm giving Nathan a shout out. Nathan. But, yeah, he. He's 19 years old. Our oldest one at 27. So everybody is, you know, almost 10 years or more younger than myself. Very talented guys. Very, very, very talented guys. But I just. I don't want them to fall into what happens a lot with our industry, from what I've seen to where you start making money, right? You start doing well in your career and you just blow it. And next thing you know, you're in your 40s or 50s and your body's not doing what it was doing 20 years ago, and you can't keep that up. So I'm in their ear. Like, I'm like, prepare, prepare, guys. Not just on the money side, but, like, as a person, who are you gonna be? What are you gonna think? Like, and I like that part. I like the cultivating of people portion well.

And I appreciate the fact that somebody poured into you and now you're inspired to pour into somebody else.

Very good point. Yeah, yeah.

So you find yourself still doing a lot of the tactical work, or are you now, like. Like you said, pouring into the people and guiding a lot of my.

Like, I've heavily transitioned into that front office role right now. Okay. So that's why I need somebody to kind of feel that shoe. It's been, like, constantly switching hats. It used to be Dan and I used to just wash cars, and we polished it and then we coated and then we learned how to do film. And, like, it was always learning a new trade. And now I'm to the point to where I'm like, you know, it's okay to hire somebody that actually has that skill set already. It's just I didn't get into this to be a business owner. I got into it because I like cars. That's how it works.

And then it's funny because you don't actually do the thing you're passionate about.

Because you're now running business. Right, Right. But it is still fun. Like, every once in a while I get to go in there and get my hands dirty and do some film or something along those lines. But it's definitely more spaced out than it used to be. So I just leave that to the professionals now. Let my guys handle it. But I do still enjoy it when I have the time to do it. Cool.

That's awesome. Well, this has been an amazing conversation. Thank you for enlightening us on your journey. I know. Time flies, doesn't it? Yes. Any final words, Sarah?

I just.

I appreciate that we're out of time.

Just like that happens on every episode I listen to. Yes.

Yes.

Oh, Ben. Special guy, this one. I appreciate learning more about you and I appreciate your support of the business community and your involvement, and I just, just. It's always great to dive into someone's journey. So thank you.

I appreciate the conversation.

It was very fun and I know I enjoyed this. So thank you for being on the show with us. If you would like to get more of these, please subscribe to Our Tribe so you can get them in your inbox and learn more about these amazing individuals that we get to talk to. Thank you. Guiding conversations with community leaders.

Ben, let me ask you a question. How do you see other community members being involved in this podcast?

This is going to be a great opportunity for so many people in the community to have a chance to be heard if they want to tell their story or. Or if they just want to be part of this journey with us and help sponsor it in a way that helps bring more people to the table with us. So I think there's many opportunities at hand. Whether you want to again be on the show, reach out to us. Let us know what your story is and how you think you could be part of it. We'd love to hear from you. Reach out, let us know and we'll see if we can make that connection.