EP10 Kari and Paul - Training Habits

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Big news. Big news, everyone. 2019 is going to be big. I'm going big.

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There is something coming your way. We're calling it the 1230 challenge. What am I even talking about? What is a 1230 challenge? Kari, break it down here.

12 as in 12 months of the year, 30 as in 30 day challenges. So we are doing 1230 day challenges for the year of 2019.

But why would we do this to ourselves again? I forget.

I typically don't do things for this long.

It's because we want to stretch and grow ourselves in all kinds of areas of our lives to up level and make a better life for ourselves.

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The first one is no meat. So this is how the whole thing started is I thought, hey, you know, I really want to grow in the area of being able to cook Recipes that are meatless and have some really tasty ones. Lots of variety for the kids. And so let's try maybe a meat free 30 day challenge in January. And then of course, it snowballed from there.

Okay, but we're not going to just take away all the things we like.

To eat all year, are we?

Oh, no, this isn't an elimination thing. So there's going to be things you.

Got to add in.

There will be 30 day challenges that you won't believe, especially February, wink, wink.

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Hosted by Kari Schneider, coach to top performers in sport and life, and Paul Duarten, former national and professional volleyball player.

Greetings all, and welcome to another edition.

Edition of the Empowered Athlete Podcast. I'm Paul Durden alongside my lovely wife, Kari Schneider, and we are talking about habits today, but not just any habits, not your regular habits.

Kari, what kind of habits do you.

Want to talk about?

We're going to talk about training habits today and specifically training habits to stay healthy, fit and lean. So this can apply to, in your sporting career or post career after retirement.

And just about anybody, really. These are, these are habits for living your best life. So we all want that. That's why we're here. That's why we're here to learn. So, yeah, this is for everyone.

Absolutely. And a habit. We think of habits. They can be good habits or they can be bad habits. And oftentimes we don't realize what our habits are because they are, they've. Once they've become habit, it's so subconscious that we're just doing the thing and not even realize we're doing it.

Exactly. So, Kari, what are your habits that you want to touch on?

So I picked a few of my own personal habits and I'll go through those and then, and then you can share yours. And, and this is all revolving around my own personal method of training for myself. Not necessarily something I would do for, for a client or athlete, but this is what I have come up with is, number one, is I have the same schedule Each week. So this would be a weekly schedule, would be what we'd call a micro cycle in periodization. And I have a program that I typically create for myself based on whatever I'm training for. But each week I end up lifting on Monday, Wednesday, Friday, and running or doing other form of exercise, energy system work or metabolic work on Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday, and then on Sunday I will do a walk or usually a long walk and some sort of recovery. Maybe it's a hike, maybe it's a walk, maybe yoga, sometimes stretching, but ultimately Sunday is that more of a recovery day. But I will do that microcycle week in and week out so that if I am traveling or something changes in our schedule, for instance, this week you're going to be traveling on Friday. I have to get the little one on the bus so I can't get to the gym in the morning. So I will still do my lift, but I will adapt it and do my lift from home and still keep the schedule. But if I'm traveling, I will do the same type of schedule. If I've missed one of those days, I simply fall back into schedule the following day. And I would have pre planned for that week to be a recovery week likely depending on what I know I'll be able to do on that particular trip. If I'm traveling to somewhere that has a good gym in the hotel, then I'll likely keep a normal cycle. Or if I'm traveling somewhere where I know I can't get into a gym, I might create a recovery week that week and download so that I can do my lift as more of a, more of a, not, not a weight room type of routine. So that's number one.

I was going to say just expand really quickly on or back up the lens a little bit. So looking at your week is really consistent. But you mentioned the recovery week. So where does that fit in? When does recovery week happen roughly?

So usually when I'm building out maybe a, a 6 to 12 week mesocycle, I will take a look at that and do. I might do recovery weeks every three weeks, every four weeks. It kind of depends on how it's going to fall with the, with maybe travel or holidays or what the emphasis is in that cycle. If it's, if it's volume work, I may need a recovery cycle more frequently. If it's, if I'm really looking to build, maybe I'm doing three weeks of build and then a recovery cycle. So it just kind of depends on what I'm going for. But I'm Usually pretty specific in my planning, but.

But the important point is the habit of the schedule. What it comes down to is that, you know, Monday, Wednesday, Friday, you're lifting Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday you're running or doing something like that. Right. It's that ingrained pattern.

Exactly.

And so much so that I don't think about it. All I do is get up and that day I know I'm running. So that's, you know, it's, it's something that you're not ever wasting time or energy wondering what to do or. Because it's already in my program. I've already planned that out and you know, it's, it's just a given. I just go and do it. No, no thought required.

Awesome.

So number two is I still follow a program even if I'm not training for a race or some event. So if so, for instance, if I'm not training until, or, sorry, I'm not racing until spring or summer, then I'll still be following a cycle or a program all the way through the year because I'm gearing into that particular race. And my, I might have a little more flexibility if it's say, I don't know, post race season, like in September or December or even really far from race season like January. But I still follow a program which plays into my number one because then I don't think about what I'm, what I'm doing each day. I basically have created my program. Maybe I've made it three months long with, with two cycles in it or three cycles in it. And then I just follow what I've created in there. So I follow the exercises, I follow all of the workouts. I progress the workouts each week. So I'm expecting that everything's improving along the way. I may be adding sets, adding load, adding volume to runs or adding sets to the runs. So it just, everything's already there. I don't have to pre think about it. And that's the instance if I'm, excuse me, if I'm training for something and just to differentiate, training is going to be different than just plain old working out.

Okay. And when you, when you're planning the non specific race specific program is there, you know, are you thinking, but maybe addressing injury, how do you prioritize with what those workouts are going to look like outside of just the habit of working out of that program consistently?

It depends on what I want though. Like if I'm, if I know I need to nurse a few injuries. So maintain.

My back is always a Must or.

You know, knowing there's certain areas I.

Always have to maintain because of old injuries. So like everything from sprained SI joints to disc protrusions to sprained ankle, broken.

Foot.

Sprained LCL and lateral meniscus in.

The knee, shoulder, labrum tear. Like I've got a bunch of injuries that I don't typically talk about to my athletes or clients. But if I don't, if I don't put in the little exercises in there to as prehab exercise or just maintenance exercises, then that'll cause problems for sure. But no, it's just, it depends on what I'm training for and, and sometimes I might cycle in hypertrophy and. But no, I'm just deciding what the emphasis is and then cycling that way. Typically whatever is farthest from the race that mesocycle is the least sport specific or race specific. So that one I can play around a bit more, do more volume or just depends on, on what I want out of it. And then as I get closer to race time it's getting more and more specific.

So if it was a running race.

More running in it or. And when I say more like I'm very specific about the type of running and the sets and the, you know, all of that. But, but there's going to be more volume of whatever or intensity or specificity of what I want that's specific to whatever kind of race I'm doing, whether it's an obstacle course race or a adventure race or those types of things.

Super cool. So taking those two habits, what's another one that's high on your list?

So number three is I have to have go to workouts to do even if I can't make it to a gym or I'm traveling and don't have anything available to me. So I always know the key exercises or I'll have just a little circuit that I either write down or is in my head that I can do on the go. Like I can't tell you how often I've heard from athletes or clients that.

It comes down to, well, you know.

I had a crazy travel day and I just couldn't work out. And I think to myself, okay, you know, that's possible. I've had those 16 hour travel days that, you know, I haven't been able to work out. But then I know that I'm still getting the same or more amount of activity because I've been walking in the airport or I've done movement prep in the airport or I do activity every hour on the Plane or, you know, there's so many things that way. So sure, maybe you couldn't work out, but, you know, that's an unusual scenario. Most of the time, even if you're traveling, you're in a hotel room. You are. Even if you're at a resort or somewhere where there's not a gym available or you're at camp, you're up north, you're on a lake, there's still things you can always do. And so I always have something that, you know, if I've got nothing with me at all, I can still do body weight exercises that become very challenging and can even make you sore. Think, you know, plyometrics, so lots of jumping movements. Think single leg squats, Think, you know, using something that's got a little bit of weight like your backpack and you can do your carry on single leg RDls. And so you can still get a workout in and not have lost ground because you've traveled. So, so habit number three is that there's still, I'm staying on my routine and I've got in my head or I write down just a little circuit that I'm going to do regardless. And then when I return, I haven't lost so much time or fitness or strength because I've missed multiple days of training. I've only maybe missed one day because of travel. So those are like, those are the top three. And if I were to add a four as a bonus.

Hang on, hang on. I want to add one to your third and you touched on it. But you, you've really got to emphasize here that be creative. You're talking about being in the terminal, you're talking about being in the hotel. And you can have the mindset of, well, I'm traveling, it's not happening. Or you can have the mindset of I'm getting this done no matter what. And having that creative spark of looking at a row of benches in the airport. Yeah, I'm going to be doing some dips here. I can do some step ups. Who cares what people think? I'm going to walk two miles back and forth in the terminal, whatever it takes. Having that, you know, creative mindset is really partners perfectly with your third point.

You know what I think? It's, it's what you said in that. It's that I don't care what people think of me. That I think is one of the biggest things that holds people back because, you know, I've seen even you look at me funny when I've been, you know, down doing Spiderman's or something like that on a nasty airport floor. And, and because, because it's more important for me to get it in simply. And it might come down to. It's more important for me to be able to function normally and feel good and not have my back flare up because I didn't get any movement or blood flow or activation through my core. So I have to do that. And I would rather get it done in the airport than miss it, especially if I had to get up at 4am to make it to that airport. And so for sure it just, it becomes a priority, especially when, you know, especially when you have injuries and you know what the cost is if you skip it.

Yeah. Just so, so important. It's aligning things with your priorities.

Yeah. And then.

And I do cringe sometimes when I see you on an airport floor because I've seen some things that go onto an airport floor. And to be hon.

I wash my hands and I've got.

My oils on my, you know, hand cleaner.

It's all good.

It's okay.

True.

Number four is just kind of bonus stuff. I do not. I'll cut a workout short in order to make sure that I've got time just to do key stretches and key rolling. And, you know, these are all things that are habit from a workout standpoint. But if it comes down to overall body inflammation or it comes down to leanness or feeling good or staying at your best and healthiest body composition, the eating can never be ignored. But I think that's a topic for an entirely a different podcast. But I know that for you and I, that's a really important one that we prioritize with as well.

Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. And do you have anything to add before I dive into my punch list here?

No Giver.

Because I know that we have a lot of common ones. But, but I, I love that we do this separately so that for the listeners we kind of come up with our own perspective and then, you know. But clearly most of the things that we're both saying are things that we both do.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

But, but it's, it's nice to see what we each came up with after we've done it separately. So that's fun.

Okay, well, here's what I've got and I'm going to start off with just a big word organization. For me, this is probably, I mean, I don't want to rate all these habits, but for me, this, this is the first one that came to mind because for me it's so important in terms of our time management, with our kids scene, with the work scene, with everything that's going on, organization is the key to making the workout happen. If I. If I'm not organized, the workout doesn't happen. So for me, organization is a huge habit, and that's things like getting the clothes out the night before. Even more importantly, it's meal prep the night before, because the responsibility of breakfast or lunches typically falls on my shoulders when you're handling dinners. So I'm making the lunches for everyone or working with the kids on getting those lunches packed and ready to go in the morning so that I don't have to do it in the morning, which is going to kibosh the chance to get to the gym and make the most of my time. So organization, getting the meals made, the bag is packed, you know, just really eliminating any barriers or excuses to not getting to the workout or getting maximum time there, because that time is precious. There's not a lot of it. I want to make the most of it. So organization, definitely a big thing for me. And anything you'd add to that?

No, just it's. I mean, it's just so huge. It's such a.

It's such a key thing that saves time in the bigger picture. And if you end up getting an organized.

Yeah, yeah. No, a prep routine.

I was gonna say an organization routine, but it's really that prep routine if you. If you do the same thing over and over again, it's fast, it's efficient, and you don't have to think about it. So it doesn't seem like a big task to organize. It becomes really easy to do if you've become efficient. You do the same things over and over. You have.

You know, it's.

You know, it's what you say, organization. Even in your.

Your drawers, your. Your timing of when you do things. You know, you've got your clothes, your workout clothes in certain spots. You put it in a certain place. You. You know, your. I know your towel and your clothes are at your backpack first thing in the morning. For me, it's different. For me, I. I basically get all my workout clothes and throw them on the bathroom floor.

Side note, that's because the bathroom floor is heated, so it's probably the warmest spot for those clothes to be. So you're not throwing on something cold in the winter.

It's. It's strategic. I have. I have a purpose and reason for everything I do, so. Yeah, but yours is right in your backpack. Mine goes straight on the Bathroom floor. And you know, you get up and go right out the door and have your gear with you and I go right into the bathroom. And you know, it just depends on the day and depends on what's going on. But those prep routines are, are set. And then you're not even thinking when you're doing those prep routines. You don't have to think anymore because it's so automatic that we're, you know, we're talking about what the weather is the next day or what. Yeah, like whatever. We can talk about different things because we're not even thinking about what we're doing. It's so automatic.

Yeah, that's it. Just make it happen. Put everything on autopilot and good things do happen then. And that leads me to my second idea, which is really more specific to the workout itself. A couple of habits that really pay dividends for me and how I feel. And the first one, kind of boring but beyond important, is I warm up before every workout, before every activity. And that is something that I see happening in rec leagues or, you know, people playing different sports where that part is skipped. And it scares the crap out of me to see people playing men's league basketball I played a couple years ago, and guys just coming into the gym and starting to tear around. And I know that I've had longevity in my sport, my career, but also following in terms of feeling good, being able to get down on the floor easily by ensuring that I'm always warming up for every warm up and making sure my body's ready to go so that when it gets to the actual reps, you know, there is no warmup sets which is going to waste time again. And in terms of the sets, that leads right into my second kind of habit of working out and that's recording exactly what I'm doing. And that's a habit that was really instilled in me by you. Training with you, Kari and the gym and everyone who's ever trained with you will know that you want people to record everything. And a couple reasons for that. Obviously, you want some numbers to back up what results you're getting and be able to extrapolate where somebody's going in their performance. But from a just a pure workout perspective, recording your lifts and your weights allows you to be more efficient with each set because you're not wasting a set or two figuring out what you should be lifting. You know that when you're going to exercise B, you lift X amount for X reps. And so you know, right where you should Be setting that weight so that you're pushing yourself in that first set and you're getting the most out of your workout for your full sets. And again, when time is short, that is super important. Not wasting any time in the gym. So warming up well and getting those weights recorded until you know them, you know, I can now just go into the gym and know what I'm going to roughly lift on every lift. But that's from having recorded for so long. So it's definitely a habit everyone needs to pick up.

Exactly. And it's something that you've done for so many years. You know yourself very well and you, you're consistent in your training. So it's, it's that kind of thing where I'll see people not have lifted for three weeks or four weeks and then they jump in right where they were. And the smack in the face in that whole scenario is that they have the strength still from four weeks ago to still lift the same weight. The strength is still there. Neurologically, the strength will last for around that six week mark even if you weren't doing any work in that time. And the strength still hangs on. But I promise you, you will feel like you cannot move if you jump in after four weeks of doing nothing. And you know, the person who does this will feel like, oh yeah, you know, I'm still strong, I still feel good. Oh, that felt really good. And then later on that day, they just stiffen up, stiffen up. Next day they can barely move and they're ridiculously sore. But that's just, you know, plain old rookie mistakes because they're not honoring their, the time that they took away. Listening to their body, understanding how things work physiologically. But yeah, like I, like I say, the, when it comes to recording, recording is that thing that is, is it's been heavily researched and what we know is that when recording is happening, you make progress faster than if you had not.

That's right.

If you had not been doing it. And it's for all those reasons you listed is for knowing, not wasting a set trying to figure out what weight you should be lifting because you can't remember. And also, and, and I mean kudos to you because when you lift and the way you've always lifted or always worked out, you, you're intense. So you work really hard on each set, whereas a lot of people are just, they end up going through the motions on some of the sets. And, and when you've actually figured out what your max is on a certain low or a certain rep scheme or, you know yourself very well in the gym, you're not wasting any time figuring those things out. You know the numbers, you've got them written down, and it helps, helps you along the way, and it motivates you. It motivates you to see that, oh, you know what? I haven't done this workout for eight days, and. And I'm back to this workout in my program, and this is what I lifted last on this. So I know I should be able to at least lift this or at least I'm going to attempt it, even if I can't fully complete it due to fatigue or whatever it happens to be. So, you know, at least you're going to try what you. What you did last and then figure out what you can do from there.

Yeah, it really allows you to feel a little bit of inner fire, inner competitiveness, to see what you lifted and, you know you're going in the gym. I'm feeling pretty good today. I want to knock that up two and a half pounds, throw some shrapnel on the end of the bar and beat what I did last time. It just keeps. Keeps pushing the envelope. There's that little bit which is really important. And unfortunately, you know, we didn't share what we were doing before this talk. And my last point really gets back to your idea about being creative outside of the gym. And that's my last habit that I wanted to touch on is really about the other 95% of your week when you're not working out or 96, however it breaks down, you do the math, but it's being creative and finding ways to improve your fitness or your overall health when you're not at the gym. And it is things that we incorporate as habit now into our daily routine or lifestyle that really go a long, long way. And it's walking the dogs two or three times a day. It's biking to work if you have the chance. Kari, you've incorporated walking to work almost every day into your routine, which is incredible for getting outside. You're listening to podcasts, you're getting motivated, you're focused about your day. For me, it's finding extra time for stretching or creative ways to do that. So if I'm in the kitchen, I've got toast on or something's cooking, waiting for water to boil. I can throw a leg up on the counter and stretch a hamstring a little bit. You know, this is those little bits that nudge things in the right direction that you want to go. And obviously you mentioned it as well can't be ignored. I have to say it too, but it really, really comes down to your eating. It doesn't matter what you're doing in the gym. If you're eating and nutritional habits aren't there, you're going to be in trouble. But yeah, that other 95% it's creativity. Find a way to improve. Stand up at work, walk around, walk the long way to the printer, take the stairs instead of the elevator. You've heard all these things before, but being in the mindset to look for them is the key.

So, so I gotta get really real about these things so people can. I think visual helps people to understand, you know, what, what you and I do on a day to day basis. There's not very many people who are mid-40s and post pro career or post having babies or whatever it is who stay really fit and stay really lean. It's hard to do with everything that's going on. But to give you some visuals when, when Paul says that, you know, we decide to walk the dogs or go for walks and that kind of thing. This really started when like I used to go for a walk and we used to try and go for a little walk occasionally and, and maybe daily even. And. But we got the backyard re landscaped a few years ago and in doing so we had to try and grow some grass and so we couldn't let the dog out in the backyard. So we got in this habit.

Didn't go so well, that grass.

No, but anyway we got, we got in this habit of on the block three times a day in order to make sure she got her exercise, got outside, got to go to the bathroom, but not go in the backyard. And finally like, finally the grass and the landscape thing was done and the dog could go. It was the next season the dog could go outside. But we had walked so frequently and got in this habit that A we liked not having dog poop in the backyard and B we had this walk going, you know, first thing in the morning. So right when you wake up and then usually after school, right before kids come off the bus and then again after dinner. And if you look at these time frames for from a research standpoint, having a little walk fasted first thing in the morning is very good for burning fat. If you look at having midday activity, especially if you've been sitting for any length of time, that is extremely good for blood flow, for health, for all kinds of lipid markers and then at the same time having that little walk right after dinner, again really good for metabolizing, really good for overall fat burning after keeping the metabolism going after you've digested that meal. So you know, we've inadvertently not, not for fat burning reasons or leanness reasons or anything like that. But it started all around not having the dog poop in the backyard and that's. But then we loved it so much for our own health and how we felt and how it was for the dogs and how it was for our backyard that it was a good, really good thing. So I mean, that's the real behind the scenes kind of what's going on in our life. But to give you another visual, Paul is one of the most disciplined athletes that I've ever worked with. When it comes to three things, I'm going to say number one, staying really, really intense when it comes to each workout. Number two, he's one of, he's maybe the most disciplined person I've ever seen.

When it comes to eating. Like most of us really overdo it.

At some point or another on a regular basis and he rarely, rarely overdoes it at all on any aspect of food. Like it's so rare. So that's number two. And then number three, he's super disciplined at some of the little things that most people ignore like stretching. So to give you an example, we are usually brushing our teeth at nighttime at the same time. And then after a while I'm noticing that he's not in the bathroom brushing his teeth. He's standing at the bed. And he's standing at the bed because he's stretching. If you can visualize kind of almost a pigeon position for a hip rotator stretch. So he's got his leg rotated up on the bed while he's brushing his teeth and he's getting those little extra stretches in by doing that. So I just wanted the listeners to understand that for you, Paul, that, you know, there's these little, it's these little things that pay huge dividends in the long run because you've done these little daily things. You get on the bed and stretch your back. At night. If we watch a little bit of TV before bed, you're usually doing some sort of little stretch in the living room floor. I know that right now we have a 7 year old waiting for us to practice spy academy training which involves stretching as well. So I mean, we've created a monster, right? I mean, but to the point is that you have developed these little disciplines that are so small but really take no time investment. You're doing this while you're brushing Your teeth. You're doing this for 30 seconds before you get into bed at night. You, you know, it's just. It's these little things that really add to that bigger picture of health and overall fitness and leanness and that kind of thing. So, yeah, anything. What do you think? Anything else you want to add to our little personal training habits that we've accumulated here?

No, I think you've really covered it as a great summation, and it's just important, I guess. One thing I want to point out.

Don'T attempt to take on all of.

These habits at once. So that's a tall order. And you're not going to stick to it. You need to just add one thing until it becomes habit. So try the organization thing or try warming up every time you work out until it's automatic. You don't have to think about it happening. Then add the next thing, and it's.

Going to pick your thing.

Yes, exactly. So that's just last bit of advice, because we've flooded you with a bunch of ideas, hopefully here that you might want to try out or experiment with on your own. So that's just the last point I want to add.

Okay, babe, you know what time it is?

Question time.

Yeah.

And I'm up.

I felt like I was. I was just, you know, really taken aback when I had the last question. So if you haven't heard our podcast that involved the question that I got. You want to go and listen to the question that I got? Okay, so pick a number between 1 and 200.

Okay, well, you went with 73. That was the first question pulled from the book of questions. I will go with question number two.

Okay. Like, are you cheating? Have you read question number two?

I have not, I swear.

Okay. Because cheaters aren't allowed here. Okay. Question number two is so appropriate. Oh, my gosh. It's so appropriate because when we're recording this, we're really close to Halloween, so we likely won't post it until later, but we're really close to Halloween right now.

Give it to me. Come on.

Do you believe in ghosts or evil spirit spirits? Would you be willing to spend a night alone in a remote house that is supposedly haunted? So again, everyone, the question number two. Do you believe in ghosts or evil spirits? Would you be willing to spend a night alone in a remote house that is supposedly haunted?

Okay, I'm going to answer it in reverse. So yes to spending the night in the house.

Oh, because.

No, no, no. But listen, listen, listen, listen, listen.

Yes, I would. I would.

Because I. I don't fully believe, but I am open. And I told you about listening to that study where they're firing. Long story short, I do believe that there. There is energy. And, you know, energy. I'm going to use the word energy that is just present that we aren't present to. And so when we die, I don't know what happens. I don't know exactly what I believe, but I am open to the idea of energies or spirit or ghost potentially staying in our area. And. Yeah, so I. I'm open to it. I've. I always loved ghost stories and things like that as a kid and still sort of want to believe that it's not all over when it's over in our energy or something carries on. So. So, yes and yes to that question.

Okay. I have a hard time believing the staying in a remote house. Remote. That is supposedly haunted.

Well, I can. I can clarify that. I would be terrified.

Okay. I would be terrified.

I would. My mind would be going over time. Absolutely. Yeah. Let me clarify there. But I would. I would want to do it. I would. I would psych myself up and I would try it, but I would be scared. Oh, yeah. Guaranteed. Guaranteed.

Okay, so then why would you do it? Why would you. Why would you spend the night alone in a remote house that's supposedly haunted?

Because I might. I might. I might then have an answer to part A of that question.

And what. Okay, so what if some, like, doors started to squeak and some stuff started to happen? What would you do? Would you leave? Would you stay?

Yes. Yes. I've seen enough movies to know to.

Leave, but I would stay long enough.

To verify that whatever is happening can't easily be explained.

Okay.

Or I try to stay that long. Oh, wow.

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