#230 Private Pilot, Instrument next, then on to Commercial! Smart Plan

Kenny Keller approves of a viewer's plan to earn private, instrument, and commercial ratings under Part 61. He recommends getting the instrument rating while building PIC hours toward commercial, then focusing commercial-specific training closer to the checkride. Training 3-5 days a week weather permitting keeps momentum going.
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Day 230 coffee with Kenny. Are you working on private, instrument and commercial? Are those in your future? Have a great question today from Ryan and I am Kenny Keller, creator of Helicopter Lane ground school. This is Our daily video 230 days in a row of answering your questions about training, highs, lows, checkrides and all kinds of awesome stuff. And I just got this question from one of our helicopter land ground school members and he starts off, says, hey Kenny, I'm working on my private next step, working on instrument and commercial. And he's flying with an EMS pilot who works seven days off. So that's cool. We'll be doing this while working towards my commercial license in a part 61 school. This is a great question for anybody that's taken the path where you want to lease those three ratings. You may be going on to CFI as well. So he said, because part 61 does not have a schedule, I'm hoping you can shed some light on how to progress with my training in the most time and cost efficient manner. Great. Everybody wants to do that, right? I will be flying at least five days a week, weather permitting. That's awesome. I think five days a week is great. I always say. I think three is the best. Five is good. Six, seven I think is too much if you can do five days a week. And like he says, weather permitting. So, you know, a few of those times you'll probably get weathered out. So good plan, great plan. My understanding is that most of the commercial license is building time and perfecting your technique, gaining deeper understanding of core concepts. That's absolutely right. Everything you learn through private, you're going to get basically tested again. At the commercial level, the checkrides are very similar. The examiner digs in deeper on those core topics and expects you to understand those at a higher level. And it's going to be the same thing with the maneuvers. Everything you learn at the private, you're going to do it, but he's going to expect it to be smoother and to a higher standard. He goes on to say, my plan would be to study instrument when the instructor is available and then in the other times build up my PIC time and every now and then fly with another instructor to work on certain maneuvers. Pretty good plan there. I'm going to say once you dive in that instrument, hit that instrument as hard as you can and get through that. The beauty of this course, going from private and then doing instrument and then doing commercial is a great plan. And it's a great plan because while you're working on that instrument rating. Even when you're doing dual, you're logging that almighty pilot and command time that you have to have for the commercial. You know, jumping in with another instructor now and then just to stay fresh, I think is fine. But you get the private under your belt. Great. Start flying a little bit. Start building a little time when you can hit that instrument. I'd work hard on that instrument because you're building that pic time and you're making so much progress because you're getting instrument training, which makes you a better pilot. You're doing pic while you're getting the duel. I'd say just kind of hammer through that instrument. It's a tough rating, but just staying with that. Stay in the course. Whenever that instructor is available, jump in that time with him. Fly your instruments. If you got time to fly a little pic, just doing some cross countries or whatever to keep building that time, great. You get a chance to fly with another instructor now and then to keep the skills up. I think that's good. But I wouldn't worry about doing a whole lot of commercial training because you've got time in there going from private to commercial. A lot of that time you got to build in there. I focus on that instrument because it's making you a better pilot. You're flying the tolerances. By the time you get done with the instrument, you're going to know. Okay, now I need another. Let's say I'm just going to throw out a number, but let's say I need 50 more hours to get ready for my commercial. I would fly off more pic time and kind of save that dual training on the commercial closer to the end, you know, getting close to checkride time. You can certainly do as much as you want, whatever you have funds for, and you can fly with an instructor as much as you want. The average person might need 10, 20, 30 hours of dual to prep for that commercial checkride. My advice would be just kind of save that money and save that time near the end. Private's done instruments done the whole time. You're building that pic time. And then when you know you're getting close to the hour mark that you're going to need to test for commercial, then really start honing in on the commercial maneuvers and that commercial training towards the end. That would be my advice to end his question. Is this the proper approach? If not, how would you instruct your instrument and commercial education in a 61 school? There you go. I think that's a good, good plan. I think he's already got the basics down and has a pretty good plan. I just really wanted to do this video today because so many people are taking the path and a lot of times people skip the instrument and think, well, I'll just get the instrument later, which is what I did. And once I was working as a CFI, somewhere in the area of about seven to 800 hours, I knew I was going to need that instrument rating, right? So, so I do the instrument rating. After I've been working as a CFI and I have 800 hours, well, then I'm taking away from my work time, you know, digging money in my pocket again for dual training, kind of out of the studying mode. So I kind of did it back ass words, right? And some people do it that way. Some people just go charging through and get to the commercial. Either they don't want to, they don't have the extra money to do the instrument, or they just think they won't need the instrument or they say, I'll do it later. If that's the course you take. It's what I did. But I'm saying if you can get the mindset and have your money and your finances ready, doing that instrument time in between private and commercial is so beneficial to your pocketbook. It's beneficial to your study. It's beneficial even know just staying in that, in that mode of studying and then boom, get your commercial. And then if you're going on to CFI, CFI 2, do those. Then if you're just going the commercial route, then boom, there you are. That's my advice. So thanks for tuning in for day 230. Anybody going this route that wants to go the professional pilot route? We have a professional pilot package. I'm going to promote that today because this video is geared for those people that are wanting a career and wanting to get into the industry. 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