"Does it matter what Helicopter I train in for Private Pilot License?

Kenny Keller breaks down helicopter training options and explains that the specific model matters less than whether it's well-maintained and available. He covers CFI hour requirements, compares R22s and R44s, and walks through real operating costs and insurance rates.
Questions this video answers
200 hours in helicopters (to receive the SFAR endorsement to teach in Robinson aircraft).
150 hours (confirmed during the giveaway Q&A).
$803.17 per hour (reported for the R44 in 2014-series operation).
Approximately $26,000 per year for the R44 and $13,000 per year for the R22 (reported).
Piston Enstrom models described as three-seaters; the turbine Enstrom described as a five-seater (two front, three rear).
Chapters
Guys, I'm hitting stream.
You're in stream. You know, I didn't turn the heat down, but I can talk while I walk over there. Are we live?
We're live.
All right. Little low key today. We're wearing down here. We're still going to go live every day till New Year's Day. And this furnace is going to kick on a minute, so I'm going to turn it down because it's annoying as hell to listen to in the background. So we flew the R22 today. Well, I guess I should say hauser flew the R22 today. We had a hogs member from Colorado flying at Mile High Rotors working on his private. And he was in the area because he's got family in the area. He was home for Christmas, so he came by and that was cool. He has only around 22 hours, just getting started. And Hauser did a little ground with him. They went flying, they come back. We had Jimmy Johns, and then we sat and did some ground with him. And he did really, really well for somebody at 22 hours. And he's 47 years old, and he's like, I don't care. I'm gonna do it. I took the money out of savings to make this happen. I want to be a professional pilot. He's like, you think I'm too old? I'm like, no. People will tell you you are, but no, I don't think so. I said, go for it. Super motivated. And that's the key, people. If you really want to do this, you just got to. You got to be motivated, you got to want it. You got to be ready to work hard, study hard, make the financial commitment. And he's well on his way. And I told him, I said, you at 22 hours, most people can't answer near the amount of stuff that you're answering. And if he was flying here with us, Hauser said he'd be soloing in one or two more flights, and he'd be soloing. And he was really good on the ground knowledge. So we're glad to see him. So we're going to do first a book giveaway here. Lindsay's gonna pick the first question that comes through just on a flight and ground training question, something that we can answer simple in chat. We're gonna give that away, and then we'll answer a few questions. And in a little bit, we're gonna give away Commercial Pilot 12 month membership. And before we do so, Private Pilot 101. You can get a copy of this right now. You can go down below. There's a link down below. Privateblueprint.com you can get a PDF copy for free and download immediately and or order a paperback copy if you like. And I want to mention hogspaysme.com we've been mentioning this. We've had this in place for a couple years and didn't really push it. And now we're getting some more interest in it and people are making some decent side money by becoming a HOGS affiliate. And once you sign up, you go below, get that link. Hogspaysme.com sign up. It'll give you admin to the back office. And you can earn 50% commissions on people that sign up through HOGS. Anybody can sign up. Flight school can sign up. But instructors in general is what it's really kind of built for. Right? Because you're eating ramen noodles and driving a pos. And you could use that extra money as you're building your hours and working on your career. And we still have a sale going on till the end. Till not the end of the month. Yeah, in the month. Till New Year's Day. Hogs. Nope. Santa 40 in the Q pox. Q pox. It has been a long week. We're struggling to get ready to go live today. Not because we didn't want to do this. We've been having fun. It's been, we've been exciting every day. But today we had to start earlier, had to get here earlier to get things up and running before Hauser and our student pilot got here. And I was up late last night with my daughter playing Smartass. If you haven't played it and you're looking for a fun game that's easy to learn, we picked it out for my daughter for Christmas and we played it last night and I call her Smartass often. So it was a good game to get for her, but it was easy to learn and a lot of general knowledge. Some stuff older knowledge, some stuff newer knowledge. So if you're looking for a fun game, smart ass, we had a blast. We played like four times and I actually won the first few times around. Gather that. Imagine that a game called Smartass and I won first two rounds. And ask hogs.com if you don't know about our clone. If you're new to us, check it out. Just take five minutes, go below, ask hogs.com or type in your browser anytime you can talk to the clone. Either you can type in and answer questions and it'll type back or hit the phone button. And carry on a conversation with my clone. Sounds like me, stutters a lot less than I do, has better pronunciation than I do. But have 16 years of our content or 16 years, 15 years of our digital content piped into it. Content. All right. Do you have any questions over there, Lindsey?
I do. The first one goes out to Herman Clark and he wants to know, when studying for a helicopter license, does it matter if the helicopter, does it matter what kind of helicopter they train in?
No. And we've answered this about every day. And that's okay because this question will come through until the end of time, right. Or until the end of the world. It's what helicopter to fly? This is a fun topic because you'll have some people, oh, you have to fly this, don't fly that, you got to fly this, don't fly that. You know, everybody's going to tell you you have to fly this helicopter. If you're just getting into it, you should research, of course, find out what's in your area, because helicopters. Well, let me rephrase this. There's airplane flight schools everywhere, but you won't find that many helicopter schools just because it's a small niche. There's a lot less helicopters in the world. So in turn, there's less people interested. So you usually have to travel a little bit to get to a helicopter. So I would find out if I was you, find out what's in your local area, what are you, what do you have access to, and go try out. Several very popular training helicopters are Robinson R22, like behind us, R44. We operate one of those. There's Enstrom's, there's Schweitzers, there's Cabaret and others. And we like to say, really it depends on what's right for you. Almost any helicopter is going to be safe if it's properly maintained. The maintenance is done on time. Owners take care of it. The people that fly it take care of it. They're labor intensive or maintenance intensive vehicles. That's just the way they are. They take a lot of maintenance and they have a lot of limitations and parameters set on how a helicopter should be flown. And people go out and push those limits sometimes. So if you're pushing the limit on them or you're not doing the proper maintenance, and that happens in our world because here's the, here's the ultimate truth. Flight schools in general have a hard time making it. That's why you see them come and you go. You'll see a light school open up for helicopter and Two years later, it's gone very hard to make it because they're so expensive. So what ends up happening is people cheat maintenance a lot of times, or not even much as cheap, but they just won't spend the money when they should. Like, well, we can get another month out of that part. Yeah, we know it's pretty close to being out of tolerance, but let's push it a little farther. Right. That's not really the way to do it and do it. Right. The way to do it is to have enough money to keep these things going. So anyway, so back to your question as a newbie. Do the research. And R22 super popular Robinsons are the most popular civil aircraft in the world. But there's a lot of good things about the Schweitzers and the Cadburys and the instruments. So you'll want to get out and experience them, see what's right for you. And sign up for HOGS and start going through the videos and subscribe to our channel. You and anybody else, if you haven't subscribed yet, do us a favor, subscribe the channel for me. I'm asking for a personal favor. I'm trying to get the channel to 50,000 subscribers. And I keep saying it means nothing. I don't get anything from YouTube. I don't get money. There's no real value of any kind other than we're approaching 50,000. We're around 47,000 something. And I just. For several years, I'm like. And I. I'm kind of looking forward to get to 50, 000. Just sounds cool. So do us a favor. If you enjoy our content, you come by often or anytime to get some information about helicopters. Do us a favor, subscribe and click the notification button, too. That way you'll know when we come out with new videos, whether we're teaching something or giving away stuff or doing flying videos. We're going to ramp up the R22 stuff. Now that we're moving into a new year, now that we have an R22 here, we're going to be doing a lot of updates to the R22 course that we have. And Lindsay doesn't even know this yet. We might be getting an R22 upgrade already. We might be moving to a beta 2 that is an instrument trainer. And that could happen as soon as like a month. So if that happens, everybody's been asking for instrument training. It may be available here at HOGS very soon. And Hauser's excited about it because Hauser is a Double eye. I am not. And we get a lot of people that ask, hey, do you guys, you know, can I do my instrument rating? And we always have to say, no, we got an instrument instructor, but we don't have an aircraft that's. That's an IFR trainer. The R44 we have, unfortunately is not an IFR trainer. So we have an offer. It sounds like we're going to upgrade from this one, which is a cool little helicopter. But Chris just asked me, so I'm like, yeah, why not, right? It's a beta 2, so it's a little newer, it's a little more horsepower and this aircraft will be an instrument trainer. So look forward to that. We may be doing instrument training and Hauser's pretty excited about it. So that could be coming.
Right?
So within about a month.
So our viewers can email HeatHerelicopter ground for more questions.
Yeah, I mean, we won't know much until, I mean, I guess they could. I guess we should just hold off or we say a whole lot more other than. Because it could still fall through and not happen. But pretty confident it's going to happen. And of course we'll make announcements and we'll put it out to email. So another good reason to sign up for this right here, that will sign you up for our email list. That way you'll get notified of events and what's new and upcoming. If we add the instrument trainer or add any new products, make changes, updates being on our email list is the best way to keep track. So when you sign up and get this free PDF, you'll be in the email list and you'll get notifications on what's happening at hogs.
All right, our next question comes from Tim Bush and he wants to know, is it true that you need 200 hours in Robinsons before you can teach in them? He is in a high time fixed wing CFI in his transition.
It is true that you'll have to have 200 hours in helicopters. It wouldn't have to all be Robinson, but depending on what you're flying, you got to break down the Svar whether you're an R22 or you want to do R44 and you can combine the two. So. But ultimately you're going to have to have 200 helicopter hours before you could teach in the Robinson. And I'll give you an example. We just had a gentleman do a cfi, initial CFI with us about a month and a half ago, but he was shy of the 200, so he went over, he took the CFI checkride examiner knowing he didn't have 200, so he wasn't looking for the SFAR endorsement. So he went over, did the CFI checkride. Then he was gonna go to, had a buddy that had an R22 where he was gonna go finish building his time. He needed like 25 hours more to get to the 200. And then he, once he gets the 200, he'll fly back to the examiner and get an actual endorsement. It's not really a checkride. It's an endorsement where the examiner is going to sit with you and talk about the SFR 73 and the specifics about the Robinson helicopters. And then you'll go out in the helicopter and do a flight and demonstrate some things like governor off and low rpm and do some different things with you. And then that examiner can sign you off and, and give you the endorsement to teach in the R22 or the R44. So, yes, you'll need 200 hour, 200 hours in helicopters to be a CFI in the Robinson. Just part of the SBAR. Yep.
Our next question comes from LP and he wants to know, is there a quick way to convert millibars to Mercury HG.
Out of my league for today. I mean, there probably is, but that's one that I don't do every day. So. Askhawks.com try that. We forgot to look up the stuff we were gonna look up from yesterday. We'll look that up and we can, we can do that in one of these videos before we finish up this. No. What was it again? You got it there in the chat. So we'll look it up and give you an answer for that. I. I'm sure there is a but I can't remember. I'd have to look it up. To be quite honest, I can't tell you right now how to convert that. Great question. But as a cfi, we have to admit we're trained. If we don't know the answer to the question, we're supposed to say, I don't know. We don't try to our way through it. So right now, that's just a little taxing for my brain.
Is that, is that like a thing that you have to know with helicopters on how to convert?
It's. You could be relative to a weather report, but it's not something that we actually do every day. I mean, you would need to know that for probably testing, but.
Okay.
Not something we use in the real world every day. No.
Okay. Because I would say you've never heard.
Us talk about that here ever.
Right. And I would also probably give my own 2 cents in of like probably the easiest way to do it is just Google it. That's what I do when I'm baking and I have ounces and all types of crap. Google.
I'm sure Google will give you a quick answer. I'm supposed to be a guru here, but I can't answer a simple question.
Math.
That's all right.
Htvj, he has a follow up question. What is the price difference generally between the instrum R22 and Schweitzer? He knows the cavalry is between price range of the R22 and R44.
Ah man, that's a good question. I would say the instruments a little bit higher than the say the R22. With good reason due to the fact that I owned one and now that I've operated Robinsons and even though I don't own them, I still pay the maintenance on them. So I have a pretty good idea the NSTROM is just a little more labor intensive. I think when the inspections come up they draw out a little bit longer and they're a little more maintenance heavy. So you know, clear. Back when I operated instrument, I said you needed to make 400 an hour. That was an instrument F28F. It was a 1995 helicopter. I think again that's been 15 years ago, but doing the math and that for four years at that time it was about 400 an hour. 400 an hour to operate that thing. So with the world we living in now, the instruments are probably up there a little bit higher. So the instrument would definitely be higher than the Robinson the Cabaret. I used to fly one with Hauser up at suite where we did that series of videos. And I paid at that time, that was probably three or four years ago and I was paying 465 an hour I think for the Cadbury. So at that time that would have been a little higher than Robinson and which other one did he ask me about? So instrument definitely higher. Cabbage. Probably higher due to the fully articulated rotor system.
Switzer.
Switzer. Switzer I would guess is more comparable to the R22. I haven't. Let me rephrase. I have operated them, but I never had to pay for them. I was never responsible for the maintenance. So good question for somebody who's actually spent the money on a Schweitzer. But I would think it'd be comparable probably in between the instrum and the R22. Just guessing.
And the instrument is a three seater, right?
Yes. If you go for, if you go for the pistons, those are three seaters. And then the turbine model is a five seater. But same logic applies. They call the like I had an F28F, you call it a three seater. It works real well with two average sized people and say a child or a teenager in the middle. If you put three decent sized guys in the instrument, you're just in there like this, shoulder to shoulder and you might be too heavy. So you know, it's a selling point. Oh, a three seat helicopter? Yeah, to an extent. I like to say two adults and a child. That works pretty decent in one of those. The, the F28F, the 280FX is a little bit tighter. It can still be called a three seater. You can take that collective out and put somebody in there, but it's I think a tad bit narrower. It's a little harder climbing in and out. And then the turbine is a five seater, which is two in the front and three in the back. But I haven't been in one of those in a while. But those two, you can't put three guys in the back. You know, three kids on the back seat, perfect. But three big guys in the back seat. Yeah, that's a little much. So you call it a five seater, but not. That's not five. Well, big hefty guys like me. Right. Five guys my size. And the instrument turbine would be a little bit tight in the back, lots of room in the front. The 480 is a great helicopter. All the instruments are great. I love them, flew them and I've flown a lot of them over the years for other people. And I like them just, you know, Robinson's I think a little bit easier to maintain and a little more durable. Hate to say that Instro, but for what I do, the Robinson just I think works out better. Especially the R44 with the four seats.
You know, Zach and I, we were watching Hell's Kitchen the other night and you know, right there in the beginning, first team that wins, they usually always get to go on a helicopter ride. And so I was laughing at Zach. I was like, oh, haha. Everybody's so excited. It's their first time in a helicopter. And then one of the members was, he didn't fit within the weight and balance and so he couldn't fly.
Yeah.
And I don't know. So here's a question for you. What are the odds that we could get Ramsey to get a private pilot license?
Oh, wouldn't that be that. Wouldn't that be a blast? I. I personally. Well, you already know I love Gordon Ramsay. I think I just get such a kick out of Gordon Ramsay. I've tried to watch many of his shows, and I just. I immediately. He gets my attention. If he pops up somewhere getting a private pilot for Gordon Ramsay, wouldn't that be something?
Yeah. Somebody in chat. If you know how to reach out to Gordon Ramsay, let us know.
Well, I'm sure he could do it because, you know, he's like a triathlete and a chef, and he's so motivated and does a lot of things other than just being a chef. Right. Like, he's very well rounded and obviously very sharp individual. And I'm pretty sure that he can do pretty much anything he puts his mind to. I have no doubt that'd be fun. Private pilot training with Gordon Ramsay. Oh, my God. That'd be hilarious.
Paul wants to keep poking your brain for some math here. He wants to know what's the quickest way to convert Celsius to Fahrenheit.
I got that one. Open up the PoH and go to the performance section. Go to the performance charts. Boom. Right there in the poh. Quickest way. If that's why I'm doing it. Just open up the poh. I've always got one nearby. Open it up. That's the quickest way.
What is the maximum weight of a student allowed for the R22? This is coming from Craig.
That's a great question. You have to. We had it out earlier. Depends on how. How heavy the instructor is. Okay. So, like, as of today, we did the math. When this gentleman showed up, I think he was 190. And Hauser said he was right about 195. And so we got on there and figured out how much fuel that they could take, which they were able to have enough fuel for an hour and still have reserve. So it depends on who you're flying with. I'm limited. I'm trying to lose a little bit of weight, but I'm pretty limited on what I can do in the R22 at this point, I could only fly with somebody who is on the lighter side. So it all depends on who you're flying with and how much fuel you want to take, because weight and balance is something that we have to figure every time we go fly for every single flight and how far you're going. How much fuel do you need? So weight and balance is a big part of it, and figuring these for every time. So I. I can't give you a one answer, blanket answer for. That's what he was asking, right. Seat weight, right. So, for example, the two today, both being the 190ish range, they could go about half or a little over half on the main on fuel without being overweight, but that's about it. If it would have any more than that, they'd have been overweight. So really, the R22, that's one thing about it. It's really kind of built for smaller individuals. And usually instructors that you see teaching in a R22, they're usually lighter people, you know, male or female. It's usually. I was gonna make a joke there, but I'm not gonna do it smart. It just depends. It depends on each flight. You know, it's. There's a lot of people that, you know, their. Their motivation to lose weight becomes. They want to. Motivation to learn how to fly a helicopter is. God damn it. Their motivation to lose weight is because they want to learn to fly. And they're a little bit heavy. And we know many people that have done that, right? They've. They were at a certain weight and they knew they wanted to fly and they knew they were heavy, a little heavy for certain helicopters. So they went on a specific diet and went after their goal. And we know quite a few people that have dropped a lot of weight so that they could, you know, pursue their dream. And that's one thing I hated about helicopter rides. I did them. I would fly them in the Enstrom that I owned. And again, it's two people, right? So it really sucks when two people come walking over. And you get good at it to where, you know, just by looking about whether somebody's going to be heavy, too heavy or not. And sometimes you have to turn people down. And that really sucks. Especially when it's like a couple and you see him walking over and then you go, I'm sorry. It's tough, right? Because it's a regulation, right? We're bound by law and a limit on the aircraft, so a person can only weigh so much. And when you have to tell somebody that they can't fly due to weight, that really sucks. That's a hard thing to do. And I always hated telling people that. Right. It's just. Even if you're trying to do it in a nice way, you still feel like you're being an ass because you tell them they can't go. They don't really. The average public doesn't understand that, hey, we're restricted by this weight. And if we Go over, we're in trouble. Or we could damage the aircraft. We could even cause an accident. So we're bound by what we have to do. So that's an unfortunate thing about helicopters.
If they are. If a pilot is too heavy for an R22, what would be the better helicopter for them to train in? Would they move on to and step.
Up to the R44?
What about instrum?
You could do the Instrum. The instrument can handle a larger individual, again, space of your cabin, especially on the F28F and also on the turbine version. Those are a lot roomier and will handle a taller person and a heavier person. So first step would be move up to the R44. But you could also look definitely at the Instrum Cabri. Cabri's pretty tight. Not that you couldn't. But of the small, most more popular training helicopters, if you were a bigger guy, I would say go for the instrument would probably be your best bet.
Want to roll into our giveaway?
Absolutely. Okay, so we decided for the giveaway I need three numbers and so I'll just give you the blank. So I'm gonna. Since this is a commercial giveaway, we thought we'd use a commercial rated question. So this is 2024. Faraim, I'm still in 2024. I need to order a 2025 and get here. So for a helicopter rating, and we're not going to do the exception part of this, a person who applies for a commercial pilot certificate with a rotorcraft category and helicopter class rating must log at least how much flight time as of a pilot. That consists of at least and then it breaks down into other things. So I want to know this first number as you're reading the numbers for commercial pilot. For a commercial pilot certificate with a rotorcraft category and helicopter helicopter class rating, must log at least blank hours of flight time as a pilot.
Martin Lewis, right off the bat, 150 hours.
Boom. Martin Lewis, you are the winner of 12 months commercial pilot. And note this, on the commercial pilot, it has private pilot is a part of the commercial pilot. And you also have R22 and R44 instrument sections that go along with that. So you get all that training with commercial. And if you're by chance working on your commercial, we did that. So you can go through private and refresh your memory because even if you're doing an add on rating or whatever the case is, a person needs to go back and review all the private material because the commercial is kind of like your private pilot check right on Steroids, they're going to go through all the same stuff. So then the commercial part, we try to gear it more towards specifically just the commercial. So your best bet when you're working towards the commercial, go through all the private stuff to refresh all the private pilot knowledge, then go through the commercial to cement that knowledge and make it even better and more smooth is kind of the trick to that. So did we already say email heatherelicopterground.com.
I did in chat, but if he's missed it, email heatherelicopterground.com and she will.
Set you up with your membership.
All right, before we roll away, before the giveaway started, one last question rolled in and I think it's a really good one. Okay, so this is coming from Ronan Gaming and they want to know what is it that's causing the helicopter industry to be plagued with companies going out of business, making it difficult for you to be able to stay with one company?
You know, I think that's, I think that's been the case for a long time. And it goes back to what I was mentioning earlier. You know, I ran the instrument that I had by myself. I ended up having Hauser help me a little bit part time. But it's really hard for one person, a small operation to make it. When you think about the cost of the helicopter, because we're talking about companies, right? Like flight companies. We're not talking. That was the question. Right, like flight training companies. Right?
Yeah.
So just think about the totality of circumstance. You gotta need a hangar, you need an aircraft, you need insurance for that aircraft. You have the money that you're going to spend on the maintenance. You need a phone line, you need, if you're doing a business, you need a bookkeeper, you can need an accountant, you know, when you start totaling up. But I have a video I did a couple years ago back here by the hog's wall. And I, and I've laid it all out, right? Like phone line taxes, accounting, fuel. Like the money adds up so fast it's not even funny. And just today before going live, we were sitting over here on the couches and I was telling Lindsey I was going, we're operating two Robinson helicopters and this is my choice. And I'm not going to complain, but the amount of money that it takes to keep these two helicopters operating is freaking ridiculous. And the past several months we've had a lot of people that's canceled on us, wanted to check, right? And you know, I get on, help them and give them some Zoom time and get them ready. And then, oh, sorry, I can't make it for whatever reason. Right. So we've had a rash of cancellations, people not showing up. Well, guess what, my bill still come due. And it's very, very hard to make these things fly and pay the bills, keep everything paid and make a profit. On top of that, we're lucky that we're helicopter and ground school and our paychecks come from hogs. And we try just to get the helicopters to pay for themselves. Just pay for themselves. And we've been operating the R44 now for a year and a half and at this time, it's putting me 20 grand behind. It has not profited one penny. So when people go, oh God, you charge this for the helicopter and you charge this for you for your time. I'm like, yeah, that's exactly what we do. Because we figured up what we've spent this year to operate the R44. For me, in my situation, you know, we had an overspeed, we had some engine problems, aircraft was down, couldn't make any money. Then slow season cancellations. That R44 in 2014 has cost me $803.17 an hour to operate, to pay for everything. So we couldn't live off of the helicopters. Right. The, the online business is actually supporting the helicopters. And there's a point where I'm going to go, okay, that's enough. I'm just not going to do this anymore. So as somebody who's operated helicopters for years, and I'm operating currently two right now, the only way we can do it is because the helicopters are a addition for our members, people that want to come fly with us. It's a chance for us to stay current. I still like to fly. I still love flying, I still love teaching. Gives me a chance to get out and fly it. We can use them to update our courses inside hogs. So there's a lot of reasons why there's benefits to us having an aircraft. And from the get go, I've said I just want them at minimum to pay for themselves. I just want them to cover the cost. And then if we can get them to where they profit a little, that's. That's gravy, right? That's beer money. So I can tell you firsthand, it's really, really, really hard. And that's why you see them go out of business, pop up, think about if that's. If it's your only livelihood and you're trying to draw a paycheck on top of all the bills that I just listed at one operator who many years ago told me when I was struggling with as the small one man, one helicopter operation, he was like, you know, Kenny, unless you have several aircraft and multiple instructors and a mechanic on staff, it's very hard to make money with helicopters. And I have to agree with that. And I can see where he was coming from when he told me that if you had several of them and you got some good instructors and you've got a maintenance person right there who can be there every day, you can afford to pay that maintenance person. I could see where helicopters could be profitable. But for your small operation, it's just expensive. That's $26,000 a year for insurance on the R44. It's $13,000 a year I'm paying for insurance on the R22 fuel bill every month. You know, maintenance, it's just until you've operated. When people have no idea. None, zero. So that's why you see helicopter companies not hang around long, is because it's just a expensive operation. It's just. It is. I've lived this life. And I went bank. I didn't file bankruptcy, but the instrument I owned. I went into debt. I drained my retirement, I drained my savings, ended up selling basically everything I owned to keep the. The helicopter. Oh, I don't want to sell my helicopter, you know, And I had somebody from the FAA early on said, don't, whatever you do, don't fall in love in your helicopter. The minute it starts costing you money, you know, get rid of it. But no, I fell in love with my helicopter. And then I had a buddy who was a school teacher, retired to, hung out at the airport, and he became a good personal friend of mine. And he used to own airplanes. And he'd come upstairs about two years into the four years I own one. I'm struggling and driving drain all my money. And he's like, kenny, get rid of that son of a bitch, right? Like, he was like, bail now. Get the hell out. Sell that damn thing, right? But no, I had to keep going. I could do it. I could do it. I can do it. Four years later, I had nothing. And in my late 40s, I have to start over. I'm driving my sister's car, living at my sister's house, borrowing money for her from. For gas to get to the airport. As I started hogs and started rebuilding my life. So I know firsthand how it is. So all of you that think you're just going to buy a helicopter and you're going to go out, make a ton of money. Good luck.
So Martin already has a pro membership through us and has offered to pass it down onto the next person that won. However, I got a flood of people saying the same answer after we announced his winning. So I think to make it fair, we ask another question and have another giveaway for the commercial.
Okay, so we're just. So we're just gonna give away another one or we're just gonna ask a new question. Ask a new question so that we're resetting.
Yep.
Because the first guy that won already has pro, so he's going, hey, you know, it's not fair for me to get this when I already have pro, so give it to somebody else.
Yes.
Okay.
We'll make it super easy.
Well, that way everybody has a chance, I guess. You think that's better than just going down the list.
Yes, because I got a couple people answering after Martin had passed it.
Okay. All right, well, let's see. What can I come up with real quick? We could make it super easy.
That's what I'm saying. We already asked the tough one. Why not?
Okay, now you gotta. You gotta spell correctly. Okay, I'm gonna ask. I'm gonna ask him to type a link.
Okay.
Shortly. Okay. And when you're doing this helicopter thing and you're doing tests and written tests and solo, pre. Solo test 8710, getting ready for your test, you gotta take the time to fill out the paperwork properly. You need to do a good job at legibly filling out your logbook, making things correct. Right. So that's why I'm always pushing. Like when we have somebody answering, slow down. I know you want to win, but slow down and please type correctly. So I'm going to ask you to type a link, and to win, it has to be spelled correctly. No spaces. It could all be lowercase. The link for this book is privateblueprint.com so use proper spelling and type in chat privateblueprint.com and also remember, depending on what device you're on, the chat might be different. You might see somebody else show up first. Lindsay's going by our computer, and we've been doing lives for years. We know how it works. And if you won a product already and you, you know, please let others play, because there's some people that, you know, have everything and then keep playing and winning. And then later, oh, hey, you know what? I didn't really need that. They tell us after the fact. It's like, well, why did you play.
No shade to you, Martin, when you.
Already have something, and then the show's over and you go, oh, well, you know what? You could give that to the next person. Well, we're not live anymore, right? Like, so I don't even remember what my train of thought was.
Train of thought. First person to type in the link for.
Oh, yeah, privateblueprint.com and so our chat, Honestly, I know from looking at different devices, chat doesn't show up the same way, so. And people will argue after the fact. I won. My thing was first. I won. Well, it. It might show on your device. We have to claim a winner by what shows on the chat on our video, and the chat replays later. So you can always go back after the video renders. You can see. We can see the chat and go back and look at it to verify and send you a clip snippet to prove what it shows in our chat if we have to, which I don't feel that necessary, but.
Right.
You got a winner.
Not yet.
Wow.
I know.
Well, we know it's a lag, too. See, like, there's probably a bunch of you that have already typed something in and it's not showing up yet. So we know that there is a lag with YouTube.
I'm gonna put it really, really, really tiny on the screen. I mean, because remember, this comes with some private pilot and R22 courses. I mean, it's packed full of things you don't want to miss out on, plus a free yearly membership.
Yeah. So I'll recap while we're waiting for link to show up in the chat. Santa 40 until New Year's Day. Ask hogs.com our clone. It's cool. I know it's kind of the whole clone thing's a little creepy, but once you experience it, I mean, when I. When we first. When we first made it live and I started using it, I'm like, oh, my God, this is weird. Right? It's super creepy. But we've ended up using it a lot. Like, say we're sitting over here doing ground. And sometimes it's faster to use Ask Hogs than it is to look something up. We just type it in and get the answer there. And then remember hogspaysme.com affiliate program. You can sign up down below for that link. And once you get your link, you'll just share that with people that want to sign up for hogs. They have to purchase through your link, though. If they just go to the HOG site generically, you're not going to get credit because we don't know they came from you. So you have to go into the HOG site, get your affiliate link and then share that with. If you're an instructor, share that link with your students to say, hey, use this to sign up for hogs. And we hold payment for 30 days. Since we have a 30 day money back guarantee, we don't send the payment out until that person goes past the 30 days because that just would be unfair for us to pay out a commission and then somebody refunds. We have to give their money back. So you have to have a PayPal account so you'll see within the administration what's owed to you. And once a month Heather sends out those affiliate payments to your PayPal. And we've had several people that have got a fourteen hundred dollars payment to their PayPal because somebody bought a Pro Pilot for 2800 and they got a fourteen hundred dollar commission for signing somebody up. So that's happened. And that's pretty nice chunk of money when you're an instructor trying to find money to pay your rent and buy gas and buy food to go down and get a cheeseburger.
Okay, I'm gonna have to give it to Herman Clark. I had a couple people in chat saying that chat wouldn't allow them to send in their thing. It was blocking URLs. So I will have to give it to Herman Clark because he got private blueprint put into chat. But.
Okay, well, I'll remember that for the future. Don't use a link for a competition for somebody trying to win something because that kind of sucks if you're trying to win it and then won't allow it. And I told you to do it. But you know, we try to be fair on this stuff and there's usually somebody that's upset. But you know what, we do our best. I've given away, I'd like to know the figure in 14 years away, 14 years, I've given away thousands and thousands of dollars of stuff. I'm sure it's got to be well in excess of $20,000 in things I've given away for free just for people interacting with us and showing up and communicating with us. So we do try to give back and we do occasionally give discounts and we help people out. So I've done my part and we try to be fair, but there's only so much we can do. All right, is that it on questions?
That seems to be it on questions.
All right, tomorrow, what are we giving away? The instrument yearly membership instrument, yearly tomorrow and another one of these and we'll come on and hopefully be more energetic than today. Been a long week, but tomorrow we can sleep in. All right. We will see you tomorrow. Oh yeah. Subscribe and click the notification bell. That way you'll be notified of We've been trying to do these around 5pm and we kind of plan on trying to finish them out at 5pm but if that changes, you'll get notification. And also if you sign up for the privateblueprint.com down below, you'll be in our email list and you'll get an email notification of the times of the live events. So thanks everybody for tuning in. Couldn't be here without you. Thanks and peace out.
Peace out.
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