EP 50 "Incorrect Or Lack Of Endorsements Hot Topic With The FAA"

YouTube episode (EP 50) where host(s) interview designated pilot examiner Randy Sharkey. The episode emphasizes the importance of correct logbook endorsements and proper documentation for add-on ratings, cites Advisory Circular 61-65H (dated August 2018) as the authoritative endorsements reference, and recounts an anecdote where an FAA inspector halted a checkride to lecture a CFI for an improper endorsement. Light-hearted banter and closing CTAs are also present.
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So what happened is the FAA inspector said, hey Sharkey, let's just stop right here. I want you to excuse the applicant, bring the CFI into the room with me. And that's not good. I mean, you know, the poor guy for 20 minutes got a lecture.
All right, you got any jokes for us, Chris? Wiping up the mood for the last one.
Can't dance, so you might as well do something.
Yeah, exactly.
I have a joke.
I'll think about that one.
All right, Think of a good joke.
All right.
Welcome back.
The last tip from designated Pilot examiner Randy Sharkey with Sweet helicopters. Chris is thinking up a joke why Randy goes through his next tip. So we want to thank Randy again. We might even, if he, with his permission, we might even transcribe up his tips and put them at the end. Because this book, Taz Christman did go out and interviewed two or three examiners in the Las Vegas area and he put their tips inside this book. So you got the tips from me and Taz, examiners in the Vegas area. If, with Randy's permission, we'll add his 10 to the end and if he says no, I'll just edit this out and you'll never even know I made the offer.
Yes, Kenny, you have my permission. As of right now, you may use these recommendations and suggestions. Awesome.
We will transcribe these up and they will be a new addition to this book that you can get for free down below. All right, Randy, give us your number 10.
Alright guys, welcome aboard again the H130. Today as we cruise around Northern Indiana, we are down to the the last one that I tried to come up with, pet pee DPEs. Again, these are just my ideas. Other DPEs might have other suggestions as well. But incorrect or lack of endorsements has become a hot topic lately with the faa. And this is normally documented in the back of your pilot's personal logbook. And we've also noticed where some instructors are not logging the ground instruction that is required for certain ratings. So it just all comes down to the right documentations. We've seen many incorrect endorsements, particularly for add on rating. So make sure your instructor knows that those endorsements are important. And if you want to check it yourself, here's a source for you. A great source is the Advisory Circular 61 through 65H dated August of 2018. And if you don't remember that, just search FAA PIL Endorsements and I can assure you that that link will come up. Again. It's the advisory circular 61 through 65H. It shows you every endorsement that you'll have to have in your logbook when you go see the pilot examiner.
Kenny, that's a great one. And for many years I would always give my time for free and go with students to the check ride and endorsements was one of the reasons I would go. Just because it's like it's so easy to screw up that part of the check and then nobody's happy when the instructor's not there. Student shows up, instructor didn't give the right endorsements, examiner can't give the test. Everybody's time is wasted. So I always went along for that reason just because I wanted the checkride to go the first time. And the 6165 you mentioned, the first examiner I ever worked with when my career was brand new, when I went to do my first CFI, he said, hey, whenever you bring me a CFI, download that 6165 for them or make them download it and bring it. Have, have them bring that with them during the check, right? So every CFI I've done for 25 years, 20, I don't know, 22 years, whatever, 20, whatever years it is, every CFI student I've sent has had a paper printed document of 6165. And Randy's right, everything's in there. The endorsements are in there. So, you know, if you have it on the table and you're nervous during the checkride and you got it sitting there, examiner may go, well, you got your endorsements right there. Show me. And you know, so 61, absolutely. So many people will ask questions. And every. And usually when I say, have you looked at 6165? They almost always say no. They almost always tell me no. I'll go download that and then take a look at that and then ask me that question.
Let me give you a good example, Kenny, why I brought this one up. It was over in Porter County. It was one of those flights that I had to be observed on as a dpe. Once a year we have to be observed by an FAA inspector. So I had the head, the student there, I had the applicant there as well as the c. He came along with the applicant that day. And part of the briefing is before we start the test is to make sure that all the endorsements have been done in the back of the logbook. And sure enough, this was an add on rating and the CFI had improperly endorsed the student for that checkride that day. So what happened is the FAA inspector said, hey, Sharkey, let's just stop right here. I want you to excuse the applicant, bring the CFI into the room with me. And that's not good. I mean, you know, the poor guy for 20 minutes got a lecture on why it is important to have the proper endorsements. So that's why I mentioned that one today, Kenny.
Well, it is so big for. This is so big for us. Not only just the cfi, but the people working towards the CFI to get that thing early. Be looking through it and anybody can access it for free. You can just leave it on your electronic document or print it off if you like. But it's, it's. That's a tool, that single cfi. You should have that thing on hand when you're looking up endorsements.
Yep, I agree. Absolutely.
I have mine printed off and in my instructor notebook.
So do you remember back in the day? Did I make you download it? Yep, I'm sure I did. Yep.
That is the 6165H and the most recent one, I believe is dated August 2018.
Awesome. Well, that's our 10 from Randy. So I'm going to thank Randy again for taking the time to come up with these 10 and sweet. And thanks, sweet helicopter, for letting me borrow Chris for the last month and a half and fly the cabaret and shoot in and around their hangar. It's been. We've had a blast. Can't reveal too much on anything that might be coming up, but let's just say more fun stuff. More fun stuff. I don't know what else to say other than comment it below and subscribe. Or not. I don't care. Click the bell or not, it doesn't matter.
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Well, I don't know. Maybe they don't like my dancing. I don't know.
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Did you come up with a joke? Another joke you can retell your. Your. Your ghost?
No, that's all right. I'll have one for next time. I got so wrapped up in trying.
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