Which Helicopter is best for Flight Training? #241

Kenny Keller and Tim Tucker discuss which helicopters work best for flight training. They emphasize that the quality of your instructor and flight school matters far more than the specific aircraft you fly.
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You with the overwhelming hey day 241 coffee with Kenny. You like that little opener? That's from about four years ago, five years ago when I was messing around with the green screen one day. Point is you can be overwhelmed with everything that you're using to get ready for your checkride. So we'll talk more about that when we get to the end of the video. But today I want to answer a member question and this member, it's a great question, longtime member. And he said, Kenny, question for you. I watch another helicopter pilot on YouTube. Don't hate me. I don't hate you. You know YouTube's free for everybody, right? And we've all got an opinion on things and I'm going to get mine today. And he mentions and this youtuber stated that he hates training students in R22s. And he goes on, says a little more stuff in there. But basically his question is what's your preference in what students learn Learn in Cadbury Robinson Enstrom, question mark. Is there really a big difference in flight when it comes to the number of blades? I will honestly tell you I've changed my attitude a little bit over time and I'm going to have Heather switch the slide over here to two years ago at Le Expo. I spoke with Tim Tucker on this subject. And don't snoot your nose if you don't like Robinsons. I want you to take a listen to what this gentleman has to say. Tim's got more than double the time in the industry than what I have. And he has some military training where they did some studies. And it's really interesting when you listen to what Tim has to say. And we were all kind of surprised, right? Because we went to Schweitzer, Enstrom, Robinson, Cabri and we were all posing that question, well, you know, why should someone come to you? And when I met Tim the one night and asked him if he was willing to do that video at first he said well I don't think I like that question. And I'm like okay, hey do an interview for me. And you can talk about anything you want to talk about. And he's like, here's my card. You know, text me tonight. So the next. So I did the next morning he text and he said, you know what? I do like your question. Meet me today at this time and we'll do it. So I'm going to roll this video for you in just a minute. But I want you to understand that we were all kind of surprised to what Tim said in this video. I'm going to go ahead and roll that now helicopter and he's going to give you some insight on that. And I just want to mention I'm honored that I get to do this. I took my CFI check ride with Tim Tucker back in 2001. So a lot of stories that you guys hear in the ground school that I've been doing for seven years, a lot of times I tell Tim Tucker stories from things that I Learned in that 8 hour oral for the CFI check ride. Not quite or close to that. So Tim, just go ahead and whatever you got to say that you want to relay about Robinson, it's okay.
Well, you know, Kenny asked me about this, you know what helicopter people should learn to fly in that type of thing. And I really have to use my own experience to answer that question because I don't think it really matters at all which helicopter you choose. And I go back to my training. I learned to fly in the army back in the Vietnam time. And during that time the army had two training helicopters. They had a small little Hughes 269 to 300 now and they had the army oh 23 which is a Heller 12. So you have one helicopter which is small, light, nimble, low inertia rotor, articulated system. The other helicopter is a big slow, two bladed, semi rigid system. Two totally different helicopters. And the way the army decided which one you flew was the short guys flew in the TH55 and the tall guys I think 6ft was the cutoff. The tall guys flew in the OH23. So I was in the TH55. But what they did is afterwards they compared, they took a five year period and looked at all the students as they progressed through their phase of training in the Army. At that time there was about, I think there was about eight phases of training. So obviously the first phase is the solo phase. So they looked at do guys solo earlier in the TH55 or in the OH23 and at each phase and they found no difference at all. So they looked at after initial flight training and moving into bigger Helicopters. Was there any real difference in the guys who learned in the little helicopter versus the guys that learned in the big one? And they found nothing. So I think that experience tells me that it really doesn't matter what type helicopter as long as it's typically used for training. You know, under a Robinson, a 300, an Enstrom, a G2, I think anyone would work just fine. Most important thing is the school, and maybe the school and the instructor. So I think a school, certainly a school that's a 141 school, is good. I think schools with multiple helicopters, you know, if you go to a little school and they only have one helicopter, when that helicopter breaks, all the flight training stops. So I think the school is important, and also the instructor is obviously important. People should understand that in this world of instructing, a lot of the instructors are there for no other reason than to build time to move on to something else. And so consequently, you do have a certain percentage of instructors out there that. I mean, they're there because they have to be there, not because they want to be there. And it's a difficult thing for a student to sort out. But, you know, one on one with the instructor, I think you can get a sense of what side of that street the instructor's on. So I think the school and the instructor are by far and away more important than the type helicopter. I really don't think the type helicopter matters at all.
That's great. That's a great answer. That's pretty. It's a pretty awesome feature.
I think it's accurate. At least from my experience, it's been accurate.
That's a lot of what we've been telling people. You know, you got to pick what's right for you, but you hit all the points that we talk about. I don't know what else to say.
All right, good.
I appreciate you taking the time to talk to us. Okay. In your busy schedule. I really, really, really appreciate it. A lot of questions.
You might have any on R22, R44, 66, let me know.
Awesome. Thank you very much. All right.
There you go.
I hope you find that interesting. I found it very interesting. And I thought, you know, when I was younger and new to this, I was more like, oh, you should fly this, and, oh, you should fly that. And over the years, you know exactly what Tim said. And for me, personally, I want to fly an aircraft that's maintained well. I don't hate the R22. I'm not scared to fly it if it's maintained well. I think the R22 is a fine aircraft for training. If it's maintained properly and you fly it the way it's intended to be flown, I think it's just fine. And I'm always pretty supportive of all helicopters and all the manufacturers and makes because I think every helicopter has pros and cons, depending on what you're doing, size of person you are, what's available in your area. To answer, from my point of view, I think it's quality of the flight school, quality of the helicopter, the maintenance of the helicopter. How well is it maintained? I think really is, you know, the underlying key. And I found what Tim had to say super interesting. When the military does a study for five years and ends up saying, you know, what didn't matter what the. What guy was flying, number of blades, big, little, it didn't really matter. It really had no effort on the type of pilot that they ended up being. I really liked that video. I'd love to hear your feedback down below. Sure. There's a lot of haters out there for different styles of aircraft. My opinion, I like them all. I think if they're maintained properly. For me personally, now as an instructor, for students getting in, it's about safety, it's about quality of the instructor, quality of flight school, quality of the maintenance on the aircraft. So I'm gonna have Heather throw up the 24 hour test flight up here. We did that little thing, fun thing at the beginning. And I did want to make fun of my. Let's make fun of Kenny Day. That last picture up, man, that had my winter fat on that one for sure. 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Are you overwhelmed preparing for a helicopter checkride? Let's see how many of these different materials you're using. IPad App Written Test Prep Book Rotorcraft Flying Handbook Smartphone App Pilot Operating Handbook Desktop Laptop Factory Training Manual Personal Notes Flight School Handouts Factory Training Guide Practical Test Standards Checkride Oral Prep Guide Maneuver Guide Far Aim Manual Oral Exam Guide Commercial Instrument Manual does it sound familiar? I'm Kenny Keller with Helicopter Online Ground School and we have a solution to help you with the overwhelm. There are so many different forms of things out there to study which instead of maybe making it easier, maybe making things harder because you are overwhelmed going through all these books and all these different resources and training materials that a person sits down to study and they just get completely overwhelmed. That's why we created Helicopter Online Ground School to help guide you through. You're still going to need most of these resources, but you need a way to help yourself study. We have a 24 hour test drive that I really, really like because it gives you the chance to go in, see our training firsthand, see what it's all about. You can read our customer testimonials, our member testimonials. These are real testimonials that people send me when they get done with their checkrides just because they're so excited. So if you're ready to quit stumbling through these mountains of books and see how we can help you, click the link beside this video. It's a self sign up. You can go in for 24 hours and check it out, click that link and get started today.
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Different forms of things out there to study now which instead of maybe making it easier, maybe making things harder because you are overwhelmed going through all these books and all these different resources and training materials that a person sits down to study and they just get completely overwhelmed. That's why we created Helicopter online Ground.
School to help guide you through.
You're still going to need most of these resources, but you need a way to help yourself study. We have a 24 hour test drive that I really, really like because it gives you the chance to go in see our training firsthan what it's all about. You can read our customer testimonials, our member testimonials. These are real testimonials that people send me when they get done with their checkrides just because they're so excited. So if you're ready to quit stumbling through these mountains of books and see how we can help you, click the link beside this video. It's a self sign up. You can go in for 24 hours and check it out. Click that link and get started today.
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