6 Steps To Manifest The Future You Desire EP 1348

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Can humans influence each other with thoughts alone and with their mind? Can they get them to make decisions, act, buy something, date them with just thinking without talking?

Yes and no. Yes and no. Okay. So, no, you cannot get someone to buy something. You cannot you cannot get someone to date you just by thinking about it, right? Like that, there's no evidence for that. We can think about law of attraction, visualization, but, you know, the evidence is a bit sketchy. But this is what fascinates me. I'm fascinated by the idea that animals of the same species can seem to connect with each other across distance, right? There are studies that have started emerging right now showing that animals sometimes can, can, that move in herds can be deeply connected to each other. One study which was really interesting was the, the study of monkeys in a particular island in Japan. So in a particular island, one monkey learned to use a tool in a unique way, say a piece of rock to open a shellfish. Very soon all of the other monkeys imitate and learn that, and that's cool. But then When about 100 monkeys on that island have learned that particular method, the same species of monkey on a neighboring island far away, like way beyond what an average monkey can swim, starts deploying the same tool.

No way.

And so scientists were wondering, is there a form of knowledge or consciousness transfer across similar species? Now again, there's a whole new field of quantum biology that's emerging. It might help us understand it. We don't understand it, but we seem to see this. And we see this not just in science, but in spirituality. One of my favorite quotes on love by the Rumi is this, I can close my eyes and talk to you in a thousand silent ways. And this quote means a lot to me because right now on this trip, this is the longest I've been away from my eight-year-old daughter. And I felt guilty about it as a parent because I've been on this crazy book tour. I've never been separated from my children for four and a half weeks. Never. But I know they are good and I know they know I love them and that I haven't forgotten them. Because every morning when I kick off my meditation, I kick off my six phase meditation process by seeing my daughter's face and just beaming love to her. Now, the question is, we know that when you do that, okay, when you see the face of someone you love and you beam love to them, we know that there's a physiological difference in your body. In your body, but what about their body? Okay, so first let's talk about the science for your body, right? So what I just described, this idea of seeing the face of someone you love and beaming love to them is actually how you kick off the six phase meditation, which is the protocol I designed. And the evidence comes from the HeartMath Institute of Los Gatos. So there they measure something called heart resonance, which is a biomarker of health. And they found that your heart resonance shows a healthier pattern almost instantaneously when you see the face of someone you love and you just feel that love. Really? Crazy, right? And this is what you call the.

Circle of love and compassion.

Circle of love. And then you and then face one of the circle.

Sitting around in a circle and singing kumbaya. Kumbaya, no, no, no, no, no.

But it's having love and compassion for people in your life or maybe people you don't know.

Yeah, it could be your lover, it could be your pet, it could be your child.

But when you do that, you relax. We know that, we know you relax. We know, not only do you relax, but you feel more compassion. you learn it in the six phases. You learn a particular practice. We start with a heart-mat protocol, then we expand to a protocol from Zen Roshi Buddhism, where you expand that compassion across the room, your home, then your city, your state, your country, then the entire world. And it actually puts you in a really beautiful state of open-heartedness and kindness. And evidence shows that when you do this, there are certain beneficial effects to your body. and your mind. Anxiety, for example, reduces. You feel more socially connected to the people around you. You get less triggered. If somebody says something that doesn't agree with you politically, or if someone cuts you off in traffic, you're less likely to react.

You have compassion.

You have compassion. There's a whole, there are multiple books, multiple studies right now on compassion as a healing force. And that's why we start the sixth space with it. But your question, back to your question.

But can she- When I see my.

Daughter, is my daughter feeling something measure it. There was a study on this, and this is really, really, really interesting. It was done by Dr. William Broad at the San Antonio Mind Science Institute several decades ago. So they took two people. So, well, they took hundreds of people, literally hundreds of people. I believe it was in that study between five and 700 people. One group was senders, one group were receivers. Now, if you were a receiver, you were put in a room and you were hooked up to 19 different machines measuring your body. So they might measure your heart rate, your skin resistance, your skin, when you get more relaxed, your skin resistance goes up. Why? Because micro sweating, okay, when you're feeling a little bit of anxiety, when you're a little bit nervous, there are micro sweat particles appearing on your skin, but when you're relaxed, that isn't happening. Sweat transfers electricity better, so skin resistance goes up when you are relaxed. So you can measure all of these things, brain wave activity, skin resistance, heart rate, and then you can deduce, okay, this person is relaxed, this person is feeling calm, this person is feeling peaceful. Now, at exactly a specific minute, they would ask the senders beam love and positivity to the receivers. Say, at 1:53 p.m., at precisely that time, these 19 machines that William Broad had set up would show a difference.

No way.

And so they found that just thinking about someone creates a physiological impact on their body.

Now, can one person do it, or does it need to be a group? You hear about monks doing this for individuals, trying to heal them as a group and being there and kind of like having their hands close to the individual. You hear about shared prayer groups and meditation groups.

So, the thing that interests me is, so Lynne McTaggart, she's a British journalist, and she wrote a book called the Field. And she set out to investigate all of these things and to see are they real.

Like Roomies Field?

No, I think the field, she means the field of consciousness between us, right? And so she went as an investigative journalist and in the book, the Field, she wrote everything she discovered and the overwhelming science that we are more than just meat and bone bodies. But Lyn went on, deepened her research and she wrote a book called the Power of Eight. And what she found is that yes, you can influence healing in another person. I'm not saying you can heal everything and this should always be done with your doctor. Right? Alternative therapies with a doctor, but she found that the magic number is eight. If eight people are focused on an intention, it is more likely that an intention comes true.

Really?

Yeah.

Okay. So the first part is having love and compassion, because that helps you relax, but it also potentially could influence the person that you are sending that signal to. And maybe it all depends on factors. Maybe it's on how clear your energy is, and if they're open to receiving these things, who knows?

Exactly. We don't know, there's more studies that need to be done, but there's enough evidence that this is happening. There's enough evidence that when you, and it's not just the scientific evidence, right? Because millions of people report this, millions of people, women especially, I've seen this with mothers, I've seen this with the mother of my children, she knows when something is off. She knows when something is off with her child. And so many moms report this, so many, people who have a close connection with someone else.

There's an intuition and they send a text or they send a phone call.

And say, Hey, are you okay?

Are you okay? I was feeling something that was off for you. Is everything all right? And a lot of times you hear people saying, How did you know?

Right.

That's interesting. Is that the quantum field? Is this quantum physics?

I don't like it when people say, oh, it's quantum physics. Because we don't know. You can't just add the word Quantum and then say that it explains things right. Let's not do that. It pisses off all my scientist friends. But we should accept that there are certain things in science that we cannot yet explain. Now keep this in mind. Our knowledge of physics doubles every seven years. It doubles. Which means that 14 years from now, we're gonna know like four times as much more as we know now. Maybe we'll figure it out. Nassim Haramein, the physicist, spiritualist says, spirituality is nothing more than physics we have.

Yet to find an equation for. Mmm. That's interesting. It's true though.

Yeah. One day we will probably.

Perhaps, but right now it doesn't stop.

Us from using it. Look, I bet you most people here have no idea how a mobile phone works, right? I'm a computer engineer by training. I know a little bit, but most people don't. But you can still use a mobile phone. We don't have to understand how it works to use these subtle qualities of the human mind.

I mean, I've been saying this a lot lately to my girlfriend, Martha. I was like, you know, over 100 years ago, if you imagine this like tin thing flying through the air, you'd have been like, what is this? You know, this is like some God is like flying through the sky. You know, if you would have seen these airplanes before never seeing it, be like, how is this even possible? I mean, that much weight in the air flying across the world. A cell phone, I mean, 20 years ago, we weren't doing FaceTime. For me, it's mind-blowing if we can go back and think, okay, you can just pick up a device and see your best friend or your partner or your family member from around the world in real time.

Right.

And actually speak to them and for hours, it's kind of mind-blowing how these signals all connect and work. And I have no idea how that's even possible. But it is. Was it Carl Sagan or Isaac Asimov.

Who said any technology sufficiently advanced will be seen as magic? Yeah. It all seems magic to me.

But once we're used to it, it's kind of like, oh, this is just, it's here. Okay.

Yeah.

We're just so used to it. Gratitude is something that I practice on a daily basis in the morning and at night. I feel like it's the basis for me feeling peace and having appreciation. That's the second thing for you, happiness and gratitude. Why is gratitude so important and integral scientifically in a meditation process to have abundance in your life?

Perfect, great question. So first, let's do a quick basis. So the six phase meditation. is six unique human qualities that you can hack within yourself in two minutes each. I'm a computer engineer, former hacker, and I used to play computer games. And sometimes I'd get really bored by the computer games when I was like 12 or 13 years old because computers back then were flat, flat green screen, tiny pixelated people moving. And I would just hack the computer game and give myself ultimate gold and ultimate endurance, then go to the end of the game, kill the big boss, celebrate with a chocolate milkshake. But as I grew up, it occurred to me that you can hack life. Life is like a computer game. We have a quest we are on. We have a mission. You can hack the qualities you need to attain that mission. And as I built up Mindvalley, where we have, I've interviewed thousands of people and we have the world's biggest personal growth platform, I started looking at what were the qualities of humanness that were most hackable? Because I wanted to build a 15-minute practice every single day to put me in optimal states. So the six qualities are compassion and loving kindness, gratitude, the third one is the quality of forgiveness, the fourth one is future dreaming, the fifth one is commanding your day, and the sixth one is feeling blessed. Okay, so we're going from compassion, which we spoke about, to gratitude. And I gotta say, Louis, one of the things I notice about you is you are perpetually grateful. When I look at your Instagram, you're constantly celebrating life. Like I know some personal growth people on their Instagram, all they do is they teach something and they teach something and nothing wrong there, but you share your gratitude. Today I saw you put up a post about Maui and how grateful you were to be in Maui and seeing that elevates other people, right? And so I saw your post on Maui and it uplifted me because I saw a man who was truly appreciating the world. and I believe one of the reasons you're successful is because of your gratitude, wouldn't you say?

Absolutely, yeah.

So scientists say that gratitude is the human characteristic most associated with overall well-being.

Really?

In other words, if you have one human characteristic, studiousness, confidence, of all of these human characteristics, gratitude is the one that gives you the highest correlation with personal well-being.

And this is why, you know, there's a lot of different, you know, professors who've done the research on gratitude as well for decreasing depression and, and just creating more joy in your life. And I just think doing it in the morning, finding a time in the afternoon, and then doing it at night, if you can consistently do it throughout the day as frequently as possible, you're going to feel much more calm and relaxed. You're going to feel more love towards yourself and for others, and it's going to give you more peace.

Yeah.

And I think that's the currency that at least I want in my life the most is peace. Because from a peaceful place, then I can get into flow. And I know you talk about flow a lot, but you can't get into flow when you're stressed. Gratitude unlocks that key in my mind.

And not only that, but gratitude also increases your levels of happiness. And we know today from numerous signs that happiness fuels productivity. There's a whole series of books on this by Shawn Achor, the Harvard psychologist. His book is called the Happiness Advantage. Shajed Shamien wrote a book called PQ positivity quotient. In that book, he shows scientifically a meta-analysis of all happiness studies. And one of the craziest things he said is that if you're running a company, the one thing that is most correlated with the success of your team is the overall positive state of the team. And gratitude is that hack to get you there.

That's true.

But can I share with you something really frickin' crazy? Bring it. We did this little experiment in our office, and all of you watching can do this experiment. We took three little petri dishes, and you can use a simple plate, and we put seeds on this, like some cotton bud with water and seeds. Okay, so A, B, and C. So in one, it was basically the control group. We didn't do anything different, we just left it by a window. The second one was the negative test, where we would, my team would look at this.

I hate you, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, I hate you, you're a stupid little plant, you're an ugly seed. I bet when you sprout, your leaves will be upside down, you'll be tiny, the other plants won't like you. You're a puny little pathetic plant and I hate you. Okay? Now the third one, or as nasty as you can get when you're talking to a plant. Now the third one, you would just praise it with compliments. You are gonna have the most beautiful green leaves, you are gonna be so beautiful, you're gonna light up a room, I'm so proud of you, you're gonna grow so tall and healthy. Okay, now look at the picture. This is the picture. And you can see the control group is midsize. The one that we insulted, the negative plant, the leaves are literally upside down.

No way.

And it's tiny and short. Now look at the tall one. That's the one that we express gratitude and appreciation to. So anybody can do this. In fact, in some schools in the United States, they are using this as an exercise to teach people the horrors of bullying. Because when you see how your words can affect a plant which is a different species, you understand that your words can affect your body, your words can affect other people. And by the way, all of these plants had the same amount of sunlight, the same amount of water. The only thing different was the emotion that was being passed to the plant. So when I said there is evidence that we can send love across time and distance, when I quoted Rumi, I can close my eyes and talk to you in a thousand silent ways. This is one of the most interesting experiments you can do on your own. But this experiment shows two things. It shows phase one, compassion works. If we can influence the biology of plant life, imagine what this can do for human life.

Yes.

And phase two, gratitude, same thing is happening over here. We're expressing gratitude for that plant as it's blooming. But it also shows you how negative energy can really mess things up. The next time you think a negative thought about someone, what if, and I don't know if there's any studies on this, but what if just like you were hurting the plant, you were physically hurting another person.

Wow.

And when you understand that, you start really watching your thoughts. But let's go deeper. That plant is distant from you. It's practically a different species. What about the cells in your body? your body is not purely human. Your body is roughly 96% human, 4% microbiome. So your gut, your throat is filled with microbiome. There are more bacteria cells in your body than human cells. In this microbiome, they work with your body. They create emotions. They keep you well. When your gut is off, not only is your digestion off, but your brain chemistry is off. Serotonin. Today we know 90% of serotonin, which is the happiness chemical, is produced in the gut and goes through the vagus nerve to the brain. If we can influence plants, we can influence bacteria. And this bacteria is literally part of us. So what are we doing to our bodies when we think a negative thought, when we blame ourselves, when we say, Gosh, I don't know how someone could date me or, God, why did I make this mistake again? Gratitude, is the opposite of that. You're saying, I freaking love my life. This is so incredible. And so when we do the six phase, we express gratitude in a three by three matrix, three things that you're grateful for in your work life, three things about your personal life, which would be, you know, your love, your children, your home, and then three things about yourself, your body, your gut microbiome, the fact that you have great skin and hair, the fact that you're a generous tipper. In our world, we are told, don't do that. It makes you a narcissist. Bad advice. More people lack self-love than they have too much love. Right. And if you start with the basis of compassion, you can't be a narcissist because you start by giving compassion to everyone. Then you give yourself compassion. And I want to encourage everyone out there to try this plant experiment, because once you see how your words and your thoughts can influence plant life. You start on understanding just how powerful it is on your own biology and the people you love.

I love this analogy. I think there was a documentary called what the Bleep that did the water experiment with the words on the water. And I don't know if you saw this documentary back in the day where it's like you put hate or love and it turned into beautiful crystals or like dark moldy crystals in the water when you put it in the freezer. And I think that's an interesting concept about the intention of words and energy on something, water, plants, food, people, and on yourself. And imagine if you're constantly saying horrible things about yourself internally or saying it publicly, why would good things happen to you if you have this victim mentality? So I'm a true believer of what you appreciate appreciates in value. And what you discount continues to discount in value as well. Especially with yourself, the self-love. Do you feel like you always loved yourself and said good things to yourself?

No.

Or when did you learn to fully love yourself?

So one of the things is when I was growing up, so what are minds belief creates our reality. Now, I discovered this when I was approximately 13 years old.

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So I grew up in Malaysia, a developing country. And, you know, back then, probably turned 13 in 1989 or something. And back then, we didn't know that much about the mind. Personal growth wasn't a thing. And what happened was, I remember my first pimple. I looked in the mirror, and I saw my pimple. I was 13 years old. and an aunt, right? And back then, I also, you know, like many kids, I also had dandruff, like I had itchy scalp.

You had a great hair and skin, now. I do now.

I do now. But here's what happened. A well-meaning aunt came to me, put her hands on my shoulder and said, oh, don't worry, this is so normal. You're now a teenager. And because you have dandruff, your dandruff is gonna fall off your scalp. It's gonna land on your face, and it's gonna cause even more pimples, and you'll just have pimples. And that's okay. All teenagers have it. She was trying to be nice, but she programmed me. And she programmed me with bad science. I mean, dandruff doesn't fall on your face and cause wrinkles. But as a result, from 13 to 17, I had the most horrible acne breakouts. I remember my mom taking me to dermatologists, like injections sometimes on my skin.

Oh, man.

All of these creams. And I felt ugly. And the kids in school didn't help. I was the smart kid. I was the nerd with the glasses.

And the acne.

All the other kids hate you. And so I remember being in the lunch line and a big bully behind me singing, Pimple face is here. Pimple. And so it just wrecked my ego. I didn't have many friends. I felt I was unattractive. I remember, you know, as puberty kicked in, I would have a crush on a girl, but I couldn't even talk to her. I never went on my, I never went on a date with anyone until I was 22 years old.

Wow.

Right? Like pretty much senior of college. But this is what happened. My dad helped me discover a book called the Silva Method. Okay, today the Silva Method, and it's now called Silva Ultramind, is part of Mindvalley, and I'm the face of Silva Ultramind. It's one of the meditation approaches I espouse. But back then my dad helped me discover that book. And in that book I read that your skin is the organ most susceptible to the human mind. And that was the first clue. was I manifesting that skin? So in the book, Jose Silva thought a protocol called Creative Visualization at the Alpha Level. Now that is phase four of the six phase, right? So we bring creative visualization into phase four. And we use phase four of the six phase to manifest an ideal future. You can manifest a goal, but you can also manifest health. And the skin is the easiest one. So this is what you learn to do. and again, I talk about it in my book, you see like a, imagine like a giant movie screen in front of you and you use symbolism to talk to your subconscious. So just like my well-meaning aunt said, you're gonna have pimples throughout your teenage years, you're gonna reverse that command to your subconscious. So you see your skin and then your subconscious speaks in symbolism. You tell it a new story using symbolism. It doesn't have to be scientific. You don't have to understand that the skin has 60-something layers and sebaceous glands and all of that. You simply speak to your subconscious with symbolism and you see your skin heal. Now, this is the symbolism I used. I imagined that I was sitting in a peaceful location and around me were trees. And I imagined as if I can reach my arms out and grab a green cream from these trees, put this green cream all over my face, then like Iron Man, I can blast a healing laser. And as I as I put this green cream over my face, it absorbs all the oil and all the dead skin and all the pimples and I pull it off and I toss it away. Now I have a nice healthy layer of skin. Then I reach up to the sky and I grab a blue cream from the sky and I put this blue cream on my face. And then again like Iron Man, I shoot out this laser and as I blend over the blue cream, it blends in and forms a new layer of smooth healthy skin. Now, Jose Silva said, if you're attempting to do healing of this sort, it's a three-minute approach. You're literally visualizing this for three minutes, but three times a day. And that's what I did. Three minutes, three times a day, while at a relaxed level of mind, commonly called the alpha level. You're lowering your brainwave frequencies, and I talk about how to get there in the book. In five weeks, Louis, I healed my skin. I had skin disease for five years, right? Not just acne. horrible, acute acne. I healed it in five weeks. And my skin today is so young. It's beautiful. Given my age, I'm gonna be 47. So I've used the same thing to reverse graying. I was graying maybe six, seven years ago and then I reverse graying on my hair. I actually light graying of my beard, so I like that.

Wow, you reversed it by doing that practice.

Yeah, yeah. So you can command your body. you can command your body. And, you know, I've seen this in other ways. In October 2020, in the midst of the pandemic, I was going through a lot of anxiety and stress because I was moving countries and my eyesight went up to 2040. The doctor told me I needed glasses and I simply commanded my eyes to heal. And in about a week or two, I went back to 2020. Right. So you have, we all have command over our bodies. Our mind influences our bodies, and there's evidence for this. People with multiple personality disorder show different health symptoms when different personalities take over.

That's interesting.

You can Google this. This is crazy. So when a different personality sets in, their eyesight changes. They can go from needing glasses to having perfect 2020 vision. What is going on? How much of our body is our mind manifesting this illness? And when we can learn to talk to our bodies, and command our bodies to heal. Amazing things can happen.

How old were you when you did this, acne?

I was 17. Yeah.

It's interesting you say this because I believe in all this because I've done this myself many times. When I was 18, I was playing college football. I don't actually think I've told this on the podcast. I've told friends this, but since you went there and talked about it, I was like, well, okay, I can share it now. I had a, I was 18, I was playing football in Minnesota, my freshman year of college. and I'm the only freshman playing on the offensive side of the, of the team. Most of the freshmen red shirt, which is mean they, they practice, but they don't play. So you get an extra fifth year when you're a senior. But I was like, I want to play. You want to play? I was a freshman. And so I'm playing. But it's, it's so grueling and demanding, right? It's, I'm learning a new system. There's a Playbook that I have to learn. You're, you're going against upperclassmen. It's, it's demanding. for whatever reason, I start getting these, I mean, it's pretty nasty. I have like probably 50 to 60 little black warts on the bottom of my feet. They're little planter warts on the bottom of my feet. Probably athlete's foot just like being in the locker room walking around like, you know, a bunch of a hundred sweaty guys and just not showering right afterwards, whatever it was. So, I had these like little back, they were so painful to walk. Just to touch on it was extremely painful. It felt like it was a little needle sticking up, but 50 to 60 of them in each foot. And I would just kind of like grunted out, but then it got so painful I couldn't play. So the nurses on the team, they like tried to scalpel them out.

No. Right?

With a scalpel. No numbing, no nothing. Just like trying to pick these like little warts out. It was so painful I had to stop. I was like, I can't do this. And every time I was in, you know, in football cleats, the cleat would kind of stick up and just the pressure point was excruciating, right? So my sister Heidi gave me a practice, a meditation practice back at this time. It's kind of when I started to learn meditation was in college. She said, I think you can heal yourself. And I grew up in a religion that really practiced healing yourself with your thoughts and your mind. So she gave me a meditation and I used this kind of healing practice from the religion I learned. And in literally two weeks, they all went away. They were getting worse and worse, but then I started this practice and I went into a relaxed state I put calming music on and I imagined myself laying in a river, kind of like you did with nature and pulling up these leaves and these trees and kind of bringing this cream to your face. I imagined myself laying in a river of golden healing light. And it was flowing through the top of my head and pulling out all the toxins in my body and flushing out these kind of warts on my feet at the bottom. And I would imagine them releasing from my feet and going away. Within two weeks, I had perfect feet, like the bottom of my feet. All these words were gone. And I was like, this is mind-blowing. No one had to pick these out with knives. I didn't have to take medication. I released it with my mind and thought and intention by going into a relaxed state, kind of like what you talk about in your meditation practice. I didn't know what it was doing necessarily. I didn't have a whole system, but I was practicing this visualization strategy. at 18. And it's something I still do today.

So let's break that down, right? From theory of healing. So I had Plant of Warts as well, and I healed it too. But here's the interesting thing. I'd healed my skin at 17, and I got the Plant of Warts 22. I was living in New York, and it really was painful.

So painful.

And then I met a girl, the woman I, Christina, the woman I would ultimately end up marrying. and I went to Norway to visit her. And I remember, you know, lying in bed with her and I had all of these plasters on my feet. I was embarrassed for her to see my feet. I was literally trying to hide my feet because I thought she would reject me. Okay, but here's what had happened. Before I'd flown to Norway, I went, I'd had the plantar warts for several months. Finally, I went to a doctor and I asked him, what will it take to take this away? And he says, It's very simple. We shoot a laser. We have to cut it out. We have to cut it out. but you're gonna have like little holes in your feet. And I said, heck no. Then I got a second, I went to a second doctor and the doctor said, no, that's rubbish. All we gotta do is shoot a laser and it'll be gone. You have nothing to worry about. And the doctor didn't realize it, but his words, you have nothing to worry about, healed me. So I go to Norway, I'm sitting with Christina, the woman I would ultimately marry, and we're now divorced, but we are great friends. We were together for 19 years. and as we are sitting there in bed holding each other, having the most, being in the most blissful states, the next day I wake up and I'm trying to clean my plaster and the warts are gone. Two things happen. The first thing is that the doctor had told me, you have nothing to worry about. So I expected that my reality was going to be wart free. because I knew even if it did, either way this doctor could take care of it. Second thing, I was in a blissful, loving state, in a state of compassion, in a state of gratitude, 'cause I met this incredible woman and it activated the healing effect.

Yes.

Now this is why when we do the six phase, phase one, two, three, about these blissful states, compassion, gratitude, then forgiveness, then you go to phase four where you're manifesting and/or healing. Okay, but here's what is going on there from healing theory. Jose Silva, so his work is an inspiration for phase four, creative visualization. He says there's a specific model that you gotta implement in your thoughts for the healing to work. It's not just about visualization, it's the DBE model. You must have desire for the outcome, desire for the healing, or desire for the house or whatever. I had that desire because I thought, oh my God, if a woman sees this, I will never get a girlfriend. And it's so freaking painful walking. So you have that if you don't have that burning desire, you're gonna flip flop. Your mind is gonna want one thing, one day, then something else. Now the second thing is you must believe it's possible. So I believe it's possible because the doctor told me you have nothing to worry about. But if that doctor had said, ah, this is gonna be painful, it's gonna last eight years, he would have affected my belief. So you must believe healing is possible.

It's kind of like your aunt saying, oh, you're gonna have this for four years.

It's just normal. You'll be, you know. You must believe it's possible. If you don't believe, if you are just starting a business and you set a goal, I'm going to make 10 million this year, and you don't believe it, don't do that. Set a goal that you believe is possible. Belief is necessary. Now, the third one is the most interesting. You must expect it to happen. When you expect it to happen, you stop worrying about it. Because the doctor has told me, you have nothing to worry about. When you come back from Norway, we'll get this fixed. I expected it to happen. And so, there was no worry. And it healed itself before I even did-- when I went to see the doctor, the doctor is like, this is weird. There's nothing here to laser. It was absolutely gone.

I did this with-- I broke my wrist and I healed my wrist, the wrist bone as well. And I had x-rays and came back a few weeks later and the bone was healed because I did a similar process and I did this with broken ribs and many other things. And I think when you're attached and hoping, like it's gonna, you're attached to it needing to happen, it's probably less likely to release.

Yes.

But when you let go of attachment, like you said, like expecting it to happen, believing, and then letting it go, allowing it to release naturally, I think is the key, right?

Now, here's, let's go crazier. The modality of healing that I talk about here with its roots in the Silva Method, is called imagery therapy. Dr. Okar Simonton at the Simonton Cancer Research Institute decided to test this out on cancer patients and what he discovered was astonishing. He tested this out on 159 cancer patients who were given 12 months to live. So this is terminal cancer, right? The average survival rate went from 12 months to 24.4 months. Now of these patients, 17 went through, 14 completely healed their cancer. 17 went through a situation where their cancer started subsiding. So this is 14 plus 17, what is that? That's 30 something. So around 30 out of 159 basically went on a part to recovery, yet all of these people were given 12 months to live. The average lifespan increased to 24.4 months. So we're not saying, or Cal Santen, certainly not saying that this is a cancer cure, but what he's saying is that imagery therapy, when applied to even terminal illnesses, seem to increase the probability of recovery. And of course you're doing this with your doctor's advice. patients were practicing visualization using the Silva Method for four months.

Really?

When was this study? This study, in the 1970s, Simon went on to say that about the Silva System, it is the single most powerful tool I have to offer patients.

The doctor said this.

Yes, all Carl Sagan.

Well, I think, you know, imagine if you did the reverse, if the imagery therapy of you saying, I'm gonna die soon, you know, you're putting more stress and worry on it. You look at the, the pain or whatever the disease is, and you think about how it's going to expand, then you'll probably expand it faster.

Exactly. Right.

If you reverse the imagery therapy.

And sometimes disease is manifested as a punishment on ourselves. Really? Which is why phase three is forgiveness. In phase three, you practice an eight-step forgiveness protocol that was pioneered by two pioneers, Dave Asprey of 40 Years of Zen and Dr. Jim Hart of the BioCybernetics and what they found is that this forgiveness protocol has a healing impact on your body but also puts your brain waves in a state most comparable to Zen Roshi monks who have spent 20 to 40 years in meditation. What we mean by that is high alpha amplitude, left-right brain coherence, forgiveness. Now, forgiveness of yourself and others. For yourself and other people, anybody who has wronged you and you've had brutal things happen to you, Louis, I've read about that in in your book. But when you forgive the person who did that to you, there's a healing impact on your body. The science of forgiveness is eerie, especially you're an athlete. An Israeli study shows that it improves endurance. A study at the University of Ithaca shows that forgiveness improves your vertical jump. It also reduces anxiousness, reduces back pain, makes you sleep better, improves heart health. It's crazy.

Well, when you're holding on to resentment, you're literally carrying a weight. emotional weight, which makes you physically weaker.

So, you would be able to jump.

Higher if you're letting go of this emotional weight. It should have a little bit more lift.

And theoretically, your body should be able to heal better. So, we are seeing that forgiveness improves heart health. There was a study on this, and anybody can go online and type in forgiveness studies. Hundreds of them. Now, so phase one is compassion, phase two is gratitude, phase three is forgiveness. this puts you in the right emotional states for phase four, which is where you step out from blissfulness and you go into action. And in phase four, you're either applying your mind to heal your body or to attract a goal to you. The new book you want to write, your soul mate, but all of these go in a particular sequence. Now, when you forgive yourself, you typically forgive past judgment and past judgment on yourself can sometimes causes illness and disease. You know, give me examples. Last month, last month, I was surprised and so delighted to see that the number two book on Amazon was a book called the Body Keeps Score.

Oh, it's a great book.

Exactly, right? You've read it? And it talks about how our body keeps score of negativity, of trauma, of hate. Our emotions are so powerful and there's so much evidence that shows that our emotions our body keeps score of them. And when you can heal that emotion, and forgiveness is one of the most powerful protocols, you literally heal your body. You put your body in a healing modality.

Yeah, it's so powerful. I was talking to a doctor. Oh, man. I'm trying to, I've had so many different doctors, I'm trying to remember his name, but it'll come to me. But he said there were two different times in his life where he was, I don't know if it was like sick or more of like a depressed state, you know, just like low energy, kind of depressed in a funk for like a year or two. And I said, what? And then he said, and then I had like a healing. And I started to have all this energy again. And I started to thrive and my body started to recover. And I go, what changed? And he goes, I found love in both those occasions. I found a beautiful partner. These were like, I don't know, 15, 20 years apart or something. And that energy allowed my body and my mind to heal. How has, how, what is the science of love? In terms of healing as well.

It's a healing force, right? So again, compassion. So firstly, you do not necessarily need love from a partner. And it's important that you learn to generate self-love. Yes. If you do not generate self-love, if you're not able to generate love from within, going into a type of relationship can be difficult because you develop neediness. And I've been there, right? We've all been there at points where we lack self-love, we need it from our partner and that can push away the partner. 100%. It makes you unattractive. Yes. So in phase one, compassion, we activate love as an energy by seeing the face of someone you love. And even if you are single, that face could be a nephew, a niece, a mom, a dad, a pet, your best friend, maybe a younger version of you. You feel that love in your heart, you give it a color, and then you take a deep breath, and as you exhale, you imagine that love filling your entire body. You can even experience love from God or a higher power, you feel that raining down upon you and filling your entire body, and you just feel that love for yourself. Then you expand that into wider and wider circles. So love as an energy is a incredibly powerful energy because the feeling of love creates all of these other delicious emotions.

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Esther Hicks, the spiritual teacher, wrote a book called the Deliberate Power of Emotions. And she says, you know, it's not our minds that attract. She also wrote the book Law of Attraction, but she's very clear it is the emotional state you're in. that causes the attraction. It's not, oh, I'm gonna see that house, so I'm gonna get that house. I'm gonna see myself healing, so I'm gonna get that healing. It's the emotional state you're in. This is why when I designed the six phase, before you go to the manifesting part, you work on compassion, gratitude, forgiveness. This is about six minutes. You put yourself in the right emotional.

States, then you go to the action-oriented manifesting. Because you want to attract and manifests from an emotional state that has all these other things, gratitude, love, appreciation, all these different things. Because it's hard to attract from a negative space, emotional negative space, right? Okay, here's a, I guess, controversial question for you. Narcissism has been a massive topic in the last couple of years. What is the difference between self-love and narcissism.

Narcissism is self-love without love for others. We need both. This is why in the sixth phase, we literally start with compassion as a trampoline to everything else. You expand your love and you feel your love radiating to all life, all plant life, all animal life, all human beings. And we go into wider and wider circles. So if you were meditating here, you would see your love radiate to your entire team. and even every potted plant in your office, then you'd expand it to the entire city of LA. You might then go on a detour, maybe see your partner, see your mom and dad, see a nephew and a niece, see your pet, then you might expand it further to all of the United States because especially in this country, we need to bridge the gap between people of different political views. So you want to see all people of the United States, regardless of color, religion, political view, as being a recipient of your love. Then you expand it to the entire world. because you want to feel yourself connected to the greater human species. And studies show that not only does this make you kinder and gentler, people literally start tipping more, you know, but you get less triggered. And so there's a huge beneficial effect to you as well. When you walk the world, like your mind sees the beauty in other human beings, even if they happen to wrong you, you see the beauty in them. judgment disappears and it makes you a better person, but it also makes you a person who uplifts the people around you.

What happens when we judge others?

Well, there's a natural thing in our mind called the fundamental attribution error, right? So what happens? It's called fundamental attribution error. So when we make a mistake, we attribute it to circumstance, but when somebody else makes a mistake, we attribute it to character. Compassion practices, tune down FAE. So let me tell you something that happened to me that I'm not proud of. So I remember I was living in San Francisco and I'm walking down the street and you know, I love this particular street. I walked on beautiful Victorian houses, really nice spot, and there's this lady in front of me and she's eating a frickin' Oreo and as she puts the Oreo in her mouth, she drops the Oreo wrapper on the ground. So I'm like, how dare she does this? What a horrible human being. My fundamental attribute distribution goes up. Straight to judgment. I'm thinking she's horrible, she's a litterbug. So I walk up, I grab that Oreo, I go to a bin, I make sure I'm walking faster so I overtake her, and I drop it in the bin and turn around and kind of give her a judgy look. And she looks at me, she stops dead in a track. And then she starts crying. And I'm like, why are you crying? I'm just picking up your trash. And she goes, why do you have to be so mean? I'm not trying to be mean. Why do you have to litter? And she goes, Listen, I'm so sorry I littered. I found out this morning that my boyfriend dumped me.

Oh, man.

And all I wanted to do was just ease that pain with this Oreo. And my mind was on so many different things. I didn't realize I dropped the wrapper. Why do you have to be such a jerk to me at this moment? And I felt like she was right. I was a jerk. I labeled her a litterbug without understanding what was really happening in her soul. She wasn't a litterbug. She was a sweet woman who went through a hard time and made a mistake. And I felt bad. That's fundamental attribution error. All of us do that. We all do that. Now, when you are seeing the world through the lens of compassion and emanating that compassion, if the wrapper dropped, you might pick it up still. You might drop it. but you don't feel like you need to prove the other person wrong and you wouldn't judge the other person. You know that in human life, all of us go through moments of weakness, go through moments of pain, and your default thinking might more likely be, I wonder if she's okay.

Yeah, I think a lot of us jump to the conclusion of, oh, if this person is not being perfect and they falter a little bit, we quickly jump to a conclusion and we judge, as opposed to jump to compassion. We should jump to compassion, not conclusions and judgment.

Exactly. And when you go with, I wonder if she's okay, here's what else is happening. Firstly, you're not putting on more hurt onto someone who is hurt, but you are also feeling better. You don't feel like there are bad people in the world, or litterbugs in the world, or bad drivers in the world. You just go, oh, I wonder if they're okay. And a natural human response is, I wonder what I can do to help. Right. And so imagine if we did this with, if you were school teachers and we did this with a student who was going through a difficult time, not that person is misbehaving, but I wonder if they're okay. If we did this with our co-workers if they were having a grumpy day, we just wonder if they're okay.

Yeah.

Maybe they had a fight with their spouse that morning. Maybe they had. They couldn't sleep the previous night. And so we approach the world from a different presence, and the world becomes so much better. But it also makes our world safer.

So why do you think it's so hard for people to actually love themselves? Why is it such a hard switch to start appreciating ourselves, acknowledging ourselves for the hard work, having gratitude for ourselves, for how we show up, for the things we've overcome in our lives, for the adversities we've had to tackle? Why is it so challenging for so many people?

I think one of the reasons is because culturally, as a society, The way parents have been trained to raise kids, the way our education system has been trained, trained us, is to tell us that there are certain things we do which are wrong and we have to be right. We see this in religion. There are religions that said, you can't do that. That is wrong. God is going to judge you. You are wrong. A lot of this is nonsense. Look at what's happening in Iran right now, right? Women are being told that they are sinners. for showing a little bit of hair. They're being arrested by morality police. Right? And that's why the women of Iran are taking off their hijabs and protesting right now. But it's not just in Iran. Think about, like, the religions in the countries you are at. Think about what you've heard in many, true, many religious teachers. Religion is a beautiful part. And in phase six, we actually honor religion through prayer. But there's also that dark side of religion, dogma. which tells us that they are right ways and they are wrong ways and because you made that mistake you are a sinner and you are going to hell and all of these other things. Then you look at the education system. We grade kids based on the stupidest things, right? You get an F for history and it makes you feel like a failure. But what the is a knowledge of history gonna mean to your life in the future? Or geography, right? Nobody wakes up as an adult depressed because they can't remember the date of the Mongol siege of Baghdad or the amount of rainfall in Montana. We go through horrible situations in life because of heartache, because of anxiety, because of, you know, dealing with stress. We don't learn any of that. So we are graded on given grades as children told this person is an A. You got an F. You got to study harder for the stupidest things which have no bearing in future success. And then there's parenting. Parenting. And so many parents practice discipline. And they tell the kids, you need to do that. You need to do that. You're bad because of this. You don't eat your vegetables, so you are going to be frail. All of us go through that stuff.

If you could go back 15 years ago before your first child, what advice would you give yourself before your first child that you know now as a parent from all the things you did well and the things that maybe you.

Wish you did differently? Here's the answer to that. Here's the to that. It is, it's, it's two parts. Okay? Two parts. The first part comes from the psychologist Shelly Lefko. She founded the Lefko method, which is a belief system training. And one of the things Shelly explained to me is that the most important thing a parent can do for their child is to protect the child's beliefs as make sure your child understand that they can heal their body. that their beliefs heal their body. Ensure your child understands that gratitude and appreciation will actually cause more good things to come to their life. Make their child understand that getting an F is meaningless. Make your child understand that compassion is an important quality. All of that, right? Protect the child's belief. Never install in your child a bad belief. So let me give you an example. I was driving with my son once. It was a Sunday. It was father Sunday. And as we were. Were driving, my CFO calls me. It's something urgent. He needed to talk to me. So I had to pick up the phone and talk to my CFO for 20 minutes in the middle of a Sunday drive with my kid. When I put down the phone, I realized that if I didn't explain the Hayden, what happened, he might form a belief. Dad's work is more important to me. And that belief could. emerge as adulthood, work should come before family. All of these are dangerous beliefs. So I turned to Hayden and I said, Hayden, I want you to know you're the most important thing in my life. You as my son, I love you so much, you're more important to me than my work. My entire company can disappear and I'd be okay. But you, I always love you and always want you around. I'm sorry I had to take that call for 20 minutes. Something important happened and my company needed me. However, we're going to extend the strip by another 20 minutes so we can continue spending time together because you fill me with so much joy. Do you see what happened there? It's because in any circumstance I ask myself, what will this tell my children about the world? Kids have a meaning-making machine. They rapidly create meaning.

Even if you don't tell them, they're gonna make sense of it somehow.

Exactly. So that's the first one. The second thing is let your children know you love them. like, it's so important. Like, they must feel love from you. If they feel love from you, they're more likely to give love to themselves.

Yes.

But so often as parents, we don't do that. It's so hard, especially for men. So many men are not trained to say, I love you. I practice. Like, I know my dad loves me.

Why is it so hard, though?

It's weird, right? I know my dad loves me. He does the most incredible acts of service, right? Like, when I'm traveling, he'll ensure that my apartment, everything is running great, but he doesn't say I love you. And so in my case, I tell that to my son and it makes him a little bit uncomfortable. You know, guys get uncomfortable. My son is 15, but I tell him, Hayden, I love you. When I missed his birthday because I was in this book tour and I left him a beautiful three-minute message just talking about how much I loved him, explaining why I felt I had to do this book tour, explaining that he is the most important thing in my life along with his sister and re-emphasizing, I love you. And children need to hear that. Protect your kids' beliefs and ensure that they know without a doubt that you love them.

What happens if you don't tell your kids or you don't hear from your parents that they love you?

So, you know, we all have different love languages, right? And if you don't hear that often, All of us, all of us, we're imperfect beings trying to make the best we can of a crazy world as we learn and as we grow. And all of us will go through moments of doubt. Self-doubt isn't a bad thing. Self-doubt keeps us humble. Self-doubt keeps us vulnerable. But very often that self-doubt is, does he or she really love me? And that he or she could be your mom, your dad, your partner. And so, It's important to understand that this self-doubt is a normal thing. But if we can share that with people, share our love with people, this can be a real gift today. Yeah, that's beautiful.

And the sixth... Go ahead.

Yeah, so I was at Burning Man recently, and I learned this beautiful technique. So I was listening to a talk by John Wineland, Annie Lalla, and Layla Martin. And it was a talk on relationships at Burning Man, and it was so beautiful. But I can't remember who of the three speakers it was. That's why I wanted to mention all the names, but they shared something really interesting. Don't just say, I love you to people, right? Especially in your partner. Don't just tell them I love you, but in your mind, practice a game called, She loves me or He loves me. Oh, she put her arm on my shoulder as I was driving. She loves me. She made coffee for me this morning. She loves me. You're mentally reaffirming because most people, we do the negative thing. oh, he's not talking to me today. Does he really love me? Oh, he couldn't make this date because he had to work overtime. Does he really love me? No, you want to practice the opposite. He loves me, she loves me. The littlest thing your partner does, you look at it and you reinforce, I am loved. And I thought this was such a beautiful exercise because I've gone through those self-doubts sometimes. Yeah, like when I'm dating someone or in my past relationship, But understanding the She Loves Me exercise really helps you feel more secure. And then in turn, you can give more love.

I love the idea of saying, I am loved. You know, whether or not someone's doing something or touching you or giving you something, or if you're single, just saying, I am loved. You know, you don't have to have a partner to feel loved. And I think that's an important thing. And when we can come from a foundation of I am loved, you're probably going to attract more love into your life.

And giving that love by reiterating it to your children, to your lover, to everyone. Yeah, it's beautiful.

The sixth phase, you talk about the blessing. How does the blessing complete the circle of meditation?

Well, first let's just quickly go to phase five. So phase five is commanding your day, and that is manifesting practice. You are literally practicing, manifesting exactly how you want your day to unfold. And we bring in some, we bring in the science of it, which has has to do with the brain's reticular activating system. And then we bring in the spirituality of it, which has to do with a lot of theories from Michael Beckwith, Esther Hicks, and all of these great spiritual teachers. Now, you wrap everything up in a blessing. And a blessing is where you reunite the six phase with whatever is your deeper spiritual or religious truth. So you're essentially saying, God or the universe or a higher power or whatever you believe in, I've given my love and compassion to all life, everything that you've created. I've expressed gratitude for all the wonders that you have showered me with. I've forgiven people who have wronged me to seek to understand and not judge. I've laid out a three-year vision of how I want my life to be or my body to heal. And I've asked for my day to unfold perfectly. Now would you support me and bless me? That's it. That's phase six. And then I like to end it with a little fist bump to God, because you know, we're in the COVID era, you can never be too safe. And the reason this is so important is because religion has a beautiful truth to it, and that is the feeling that you are blessed. When religion tells you that God is judging you, that's rubbish. That is horrible. Do not take that on. That is dogma that came from the origins of religion where they had to scare you so the churches could make money. But when religion talks about how God loves you, how you are blessed. That is the positive side we want to emphasize. Sri Kumar Rao, the great MBA professor who brings Eastern philosophy into America's MBA school, says, the most important belief we can take on. Do you know what that is? The most important belief is the belief that we live in a benevolent universe, that the universe loves us, is holding us, is guiding us. The universe has our back. And that everything that happens to us is not happening to us, but happening for us. And that is what we're doing with this sixth phase, the blessing.

I love this. I'm excited about this. The six phase meditation method. Make sure you guys get this. I think it's really everything you talked about in here is things that I feel like I've been doing, but not in a method standpoint. So I feel like it's helpful to have a guide, a process, a step by step.

This is super specific. Two minutes each phase, maybe three minutes to go in your meditation, come out 15 minutes total. And with the book, you get a course, the six days meditation course. It's about 90 minutes broken up into 15 minutes a day. And at the end of six days, you've mastered the approach. And I'm personally teaching and guiding the course, and you learn all of the advanced protocols. So this is like playing any sport. You can be at the surface or you can go really deep. The deeper you go, the more feelings of bliss you get, the more powerful you are at forgiving, the more you can and that's what we seek to do with the book.

What's the best place to get the book?

You can get the book from Amazon or you can also go to mindvalley.com/six and if you buy the book from there, you get a special crazy bonus, which is not just the online course, but for a limited time, we're giving away Mindvalley's Meditation app, which is really cool. 500 plus meditations, binaural tracks, hypnotherapy tracks from hundreds of teachers. It's completely free for you. for a year. All you got to do is get it from mindvalue.com/the-number-six.

Amazing. Make sure you guys go there. Follow you. Where's the main place you like to.

Be on social media? Where should I follow you? So follow me on Instagram.

@Vision. V-I-S-H-E-N. Okay, cool. You're everywhere else on social media as well, but that's your main place to hang out. Mindvalue.com is an amazing resource. Make sure you guys check that out as well. Couple of final questions for you before you got to get you out on a plane back to Europe. This is a question I asked everyone at the end. It's called the Three Truths. So imagine a hypothetical situation. It's the last day for you in this world, many years away. You get to live as long as you want, but eventually you got to turn the lights off. And you've accomplished and manifested everything you want in your life. Love, business, health, community, all the things you want, they happen. You see your kids do things they want to do. But for whatever reason, everything you've created, this book, your companies, they're all gone. We don't have access to any more information that you've put out into the world. This interview, gone. Hypothetical. But you get to leave behind three lessons to the world. And this is all we have to remember you by. And I like to call it three truths. What would those be for you?

Oh, I like this. I like this. I've never answered this before. So, I'm going to reflect on some of the things we spoke about. The first one would be always live in gratitude. The second one would be always radiate love. And the third one would be raise your children with positive beliefs. With only positive beliefs.

I love that. It's a great truth. It's powerful. I want to acknowledge you, Vishen, for how you continue to show up in the world. Again, the way you show up with Mindvalley, your events, you do a lot of curated events as well, but you're constantly trying to innovate, simplifying living a better life.

Thank you.

There's a lot of complexities to the world. There's a lot of adversity, challenges, negative energy in the world, and everything you touch and create has an intention, I feel, is trying to impact people in a positive way.

Thank you.

So I really acknowledge your brilliant mind, your engineering mind, and how you bring love, peace and healing through engineering. I think it's really unique the way you bring this to the world. So I'm really grateful for you. I acknowledge you for this book, you, Mission of Service, which is what you're really here to do. My final question for you, what's your definition of greatness?

Ooh, that's interesting. I think greatness is understanding that the point of life is to live. And we forget that. We think the point of life is the accolades or the career or the company. All of those are just vehicles to move you towards really living. Having the abundance, the juicy emotional states, the creative creativity to live. And living means adventure, travel, being in love. To me, it's raising kids, seeing the world, it's connecting with people, it's discovery, it's growth. It's romance, it's sex, it's all of these different things. And I've started to learn that that is what life is about. I'm 47, right? Well, I'm gonna be 47, and I wanna dedicate the rest of my life to living. I love my company, and I love my mission, but that's gonna be secondary to truly living.

Mm, vision. Thanks, my man. Appreciate you. Good times.

Thanks.

Thank you so much for listening. I hope you enjoyed today's episode and it inspired you on your journey towards greatness. make sure to check out the show notes in the description for a full rundown of today's show with all the important links. And also make sure to share this with a friend and subscribe over on Apple Podcasts as well. I really love hearing feedback from you guys, so share a review over on Apple and let me know what part of this episode resonated with you the most. And if no one's told you lately, I want to remind you that you are loved, you are worthy, and you matter. And now It's time to go out there and do something great.

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